The BBC agenda is clear. Rebekah Wade must be sacked, Andy Coulson should be imprisoned, NOTW should be shut down and NewsCorp must NOT be allowed to take 100% shareholding in BSkyB. Oh, and David Cameron is unfit to be Prime Minister since he has people judgement is appalling. The hysterical tone adoped by the BBC in the past 24 hours on the phone-hacking issue seems to have reached a new shrill tone this morning. The Today programme has been running attack interview after attack interview with smug BBC hacks delighting in this opportunity to unveil their ill-disguised hatred of Murdoch under the farcical pretence of seeking to secure journalistic integrity. Your thoughts on the Murdock jihad?
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Awwww poor, little BBC. They’re jealous!
BskyB and Murdoch have channels that people CHOOSE to pay for and are happy to, while the BBC has to extort money under threat of the magistrates and a potential custodial term for failure to pay.
As seen as the alias for a commentator on another blog “Drop a daisy cutter bomb on the BBC”. My sentiments exactly.
Yep It is getting bloody awful the BBC is really pushing it’s luck or this, I mean they and their pet newspaper have a duty to report on this but that is not what they are doing, they are using this to attack what they see as a commercial rival and getting round the partiality scam by fronting the stories in the independent? lol! Grundion.
And so what do we have after 2 years of BBC and Grundion digging using all their resources and leaks ? nowt! that can be used by a judge as yet! just more ‘alleged’ ‘unsubstantiated ‘ ‘rumours’ and ‘sources’ oh and not forgetting ‘ex Labour ministers’
so unlike the twooter Lefty who insulted the family’s of 3 victims of a tragic accident that every other MSN ran so a biggie then nope cannot have been as the bumblebeebs didn’t see it as newsworthy!
Surprising number of people not happy with David Hughes’ Telegraph blog of yesterday:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100095338/what-is-the-bbc-really-trying-to-do-with-its-milly-dowler-coverage/
I wouldn’t be surprised if the beeboid hive have been told to get blogging in defence of the Ministry of Truth (in work time, natch).
Mr. Hughes walked into that one.
At best, the emotive nature of the Dowler case ensured that ‘the public’ would be highly sensitive to this, which the BBC and others played like a violin… and have now cynically dropped almost totally in favour of political point scoring.
At worst, it highlights the facile nature of the ‘approvals’ systems that exists on blogs.
I don’t mind it here so much as it’s a guide and there are names listed, but on MSM blogs it can so easily be manipulated. One tweet to the faithful and the BBC can only crank up 145 supporters? The BBC’s own, new system is worse, with the risible dislike option. I am now seeing any post from a non-hive poster get negative within minutes, as either paid activists or brain-dead amateurs try and rig things for the ‘the public has given us their views’ evening headlines.
Plus, of course, the BBC and CiF have their mods on hand to ensure it all goes according to narrative, and will pull the plug when it doesn’t.
That Nick R’s blog now stops before within a matter of hours before any normal, working folk can comment, or ‘vote’, is a travesty. All that his blog now is a bear pit for paid activists to engage in 400-character assassinations in the guise of interactivity.
News International (with the help of Robert Peston) is trying to hang Coulson out to dry to save Brooks. Their official line – that she knew nothing about all this – make her, NI and Murdoch look ridiculous.
The BBC is undoubtably gleeful over the chance to attack Murdoch but he deserves to be attacked over this.
Of course, it will be intersting to see how the BBC treats the story when similar revelations about the non-Murdoch press inevitably emerge.
In 2006, during the course of its Operation Motorman investigation, the Information Commissioners Office unearthed hundreds of examples of journalists from various newspapers using private investigators to obtain personal information. This is much wider than a NOTW or Murdoch thing.
Today 7:09 – Claire Enders, media analyst at Enders Analysis and introduced as “a critic of Murdoch’s power in the media”. Justin asks if this scandal is a turning point, producing change desired by Claire & Co. Claire responds by assuming Justin wants to be told good news on the Sky bid & is not too optimistic.
But Justin would be happy to hear that Murdoch’s influence in the UK will be reduced. Claire’s view on the level of influence is obviously warped as she states that News International is “By far the biggest force in television”! The BBC being impartial obviously have no influence??
‘“a critic of Murdoch’s power in the media”
And here was me thinking it was getting justice for Milly.
That notion soon was swept aside, wan’t it Messrs, Peston, Prescott, et al, you gutter-dwelling pieces of..
Two questions for the BBC:
1. Can you confirm that there has been no senior management meeting to discuss the coverage of NOTW hacking and that there was no collective decision to use it as a vehicle to undermine the BSkyB takeover?
2. Can you confirm that the BBC has never used information gained illegally and has never employed anybody who has attempted to hack the phones of victims, suspects or their relatives?
No fibbing, now…
‘confirm that the BBC has never used information gained illegally’
Semantics will win the day.
‘The BBC has never had unwarranted media relations with that kind of person’
Did you speechwrite for Bill Clinton?
At the very least the BBC does not understand its audience. The reporting has been overdone to the point of boredom by the public.
Horrible as it was that the Dowlers had their phones hacked – along with all the other ‘celebraties’ what stories have come out of it? Hugh Grant was on the BBC last night doing angry- well I don’t suppose anything in his life has changed due to his phone hacking except maybe, as a very highly paid actor, he needs to keep his mobile to let people know he is late or call the AA if his car breaks down etc rather than chat to his girlfriends.
It cannot be coincidence that this has all come into the open this week because of the BSkyB takeover. How long has the BBC known about the hacking?
The whole MSM should be shut down. News Of the World seems as good a place as any to start. Once they start falling the BBC will have to go with them.
I agree, Cameron is unfit to be Prime Minister, but for too many reasons to fit in to this tiny field.
Posted elsewhere but….
The debate has moved on a little since my original comment but I stand by my first impression of the BBC coverage – completely over the top.
BBC priorities? Anti-Murdoch, politically leftist and pro-censorship legislation for the rich and famous.
I just don’t believe their sudden concern for the feelings of the families in certain tragic cases. Cross reference when the Dowler family made their brave and impassioned remarks about their treatment during the recent trial BBC News 24 russelled up a civil rights lawyer within the hour to spout ‘there is nothing wrong with the current system’
Firstly, I’d say the Murdoch empire deserves to be attacked for this. They overstepped the mark, well and truly (but I doubt they’re the only ones). They’ll not get 100% of BskyB now, and frankly that suits me as a Murdoch monopoly is just as bad as a BBC one. Secondly, David Cameron was a fool to become involved with soiled goods such as Andy Coulson and deserves what he gets from this.
Thirdly, the BBC has shown undisguised delight in being able to get at both. Witness Naughtie’s interview on Today this morning with Simon Greenberg from News International. He had a clear agenda which involved searching only for the truth he wanted to hear. Shortly before that, Peston nearly wet himself with excitement.
Of course, the answer for those who disapprove of the News of the World’s actions is not to buy the product or advertise in it. Which seems to be happening. Would that similar sanctions were available to those who dislike the BBC.
Unusually I happened to catch Today. Quite bizarre. Deranged even. I have no time at all for the MSM and assumed aalways they were a devious bunch of self serving quick buck merchants. I have no interest in what happens to News International. If they have broken the law then lock them up.
But the implications of the BBC’s attitude are clear. We are the only media you can trust. We are the only truth.
Your future is safe with us provided you think as we tell you to think.
And so on and so on.
Just wait till the BBC axis gets it’s hands on the internet on some pretext or other.
I can understand Today getting on to the NOTW case with undisguised glee. However, as a self-described “impartial” news gatherer, the BBC had no business inserting into the Radio 4 8:00 am News a commentary by (I think) Toenails. This was particularly egregious since this commentary (which added nothing to the news element of the story) implied – by association with Coulson – that Cameron and the wicked Tories were complicit in this. Whatever the truth of the matter the BBC is, as has become customary, guilty of conflating fact and opinion. Even Mrs U (a fan of Radio 4) asked, when the nth item on the affair started on Today, why the BBC can’t stop boring us all to death on its favourite topics (of which the NOTW saga is the latest).
Well at least the hacker didn’t leave any obscene messages on the answering machine.
BBC World Service was leading with thois story too.
Most of the UK press are leading with it this morning, so the BBC here in the UK can try to justify the exaggerated attention they are giving it. But that does not make it a story that should lead on the World Service.
BBC World too. It’s pushed Portugal’s next bailout into second place.
Beeboid scoring political points from NoTW saga is even lower than what the NoTW hacks did. I dont “pay” the fee for this below the belt politcally motivated arbitrage. If Murdoch was still behind Nu-Labour this wouldnt happen on such a scale.
Totally agree lard pressalot never stood up for the truth when he was Kneeling for Rupert and Tony !!
Yes, BBC-NUJ is trying to turn the apparently nasty activities at NoW into a full scale political assault on NewsCorp and the UK government.
BBC-NUJ provides no public disclaimers to indicate its very considerable vested interest in opposing NewsCorp.
BBC-NUJ uses our money to denigrate the whole of NewsCorp, while expanding the BBC global empire, using its strike weapon when it wants, to do so.
Expect next, some BBC-NUJ lectures on the ethics of hacking; perhaps Assange will give them.
How did Assange get his information??
Just asking
As Murdock’s army appears to have given the opposition every bit of ammunition it needed, no surprise it is holed below the water line. The next batlle will be about the public inquiry. This has to be broad and cover all illegalities done by ALL press and media. Then the Guardians, Indy’s etc will lie low very quickly.
R.Wade well her position , is untenable, she should be history
it was on her watch ditto.
it will be interesting to see, if for all NI cronies if she is elevated to some “crusader for truth” palava, or worse still some drivelling “rebakah should not be a victim”, she, of all people cannot be trusted to investigate herself,
apparently, this may encompass 7/7 victims – the soham family
………(but hey “lessons will be learned” eh…sheesh!)
i suppose it will be shameful behead Coulson – thanks Rebekah line
that said
The BBCs glee 😉 on this is absolutely palpable, thank goodness
they are open, unbiased, & the honest truth eh,
im surprised, we haven t had a spokesman announcing
” thank GOD we were here”……. 🙂
One of the more disgraceful episodes of hypocritical oportunism displayed by the bbc in quite some time.
Third rate scandal sheet employs dodgy investigator to get sordid details on squalid cases.
Surely this pales into insignificance compared to the bbc’s willingness to deceive the electorate over the suitability of g. brown to be prime minister when it was an ‘open secret’ in the labour party that he was a basket case ?
The BBC shroud wearers in full cry.
Hits all their buttons-anti Digger, anti-USA(Fox etc), and best of all-don`t even have to leave the bar to get the stories piling in from colleagues and the Greenslades, Hewletts etc!
That a couple of kids die en route-well so what?…they`ll be wanting Bellfield out long before Wade in any case!
Looking forward to the BBC trawling through Tony and Iain Blairs role in allowing Newscorp to get away with this…PCC, OFCOM and those Nulabor courtiers and trough toffs like Prescott!
At least Murdoch has no need to fiddle his expenses unlike the vermin in the ermine( Andrew Motion can`t compete!)
I was interested in the Peston distraction angle being pushed by, of all folk, a left wing journo and pol. So I hit his blogs…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14039915
Beyond acres of Crick/Robbo ‘source’ material, that some are starting to question as ‘news’, it seems he has also hired Robbo’s bunker mode mods, too.
And the BBC is trying to campaign on media monopolies fit to be let loose?
Ms. Dowler seems to have long since outlived her usefulness to the cause.
Hello chaps. Nice to see you all still banging away at the BBC. For me the latest crap by the BBC over the hacking just serves the Tories right, which is why I no longer bother to post here.
The Tories deserve EVERYTHING they get off the BBC, this was seen by everyone here long before the last election and the pathetic comments from Cameron and Osborne over the BBC’s obsession with Tory cuts just makes me laugh.
The Tories should have put the BBC on notice before the last election, but they failed and now they’ve put the biggest wanker in charge of the BBC I can think of.
I hope the BBC keeps kicking the Tories now and stirring up the dross on our streets, they deserve everything they get.
Anyway guys keep at it, but the Tories are not interested in sorting out the BBC, in fact the Tories are more frightened of the BBC than the left is of Murdoch.
I am enjoying seeing Cameron and co getting their bums reamed by Nu Liebore/BBC/Guardian, what happened to the Tory right? Did Cameron have them all drowned on the quiet?
The Tories are pathetic, I detest them (for different reasons) as much as I do Liebore
Martin – welcome back!
The BBC’s hysteria over this is fanned by their determination to sweep under the carpet recent shocking stuff about Johann Hari (Guardiuanista) and Kia Abdullah (Guardianistaette)
http://order-order.com/2011/07/01/guardian-hack-laughs-at-death-of-gap-year-kids/
Hi Martin – welcome back. The place hasn’t been the same without your comments.
Indeed, welcome back Martin. You imply however that the purpose of this site is to defend the Tories against the BBC, which isn’t true as far as I’m concerned.
The country needs to be defended against the BBC. It is because of the BBC that we have the wishy-washy Euroslime excuse that now masquerades as a Tory party and I’m happy to see Dave attacked. But the country needs a better choice of political discussion than is possible with the Beeb and that is why I continue to post here.
I agree Roland but the BBC are opposing everything the Tories do, which often involves whipping up lefty hysteria that has been leading ot the sort of violence we haven’t seen on our streets for years. Most of this is based on out and out lies from the BBC with claims of “massive cuts” or “swingeing cuts” and so on.
The BBC are trying to de-stabalise the Country and the elected Government, they have no right to do so. Most opinion polls show a clear majority who think the cuts are needed or indeed do not go far enough.
The BBC simply refuse to allow that view to get airtime on any of their programmes, the Government should be insisting that their case be give a fair airing, but the BBC is simply refusing.
The Tories have themselves to blame for this, as each day goes by the BBC grows bolder in its opposition to the current Government.
My concern is the lefty hate the BBC is creating will end up causing loss of life in riots or the Government even changing policies.
The BBC has become too powerful as a body but the Tories can’t see it, putting a complete arsehole like Patten in change is not what the BBC needed.
Moaning about the BBC now seems pointless, especially if the only party that might have been tempted to reform the BBC clearly doesn’t see a problem. It’s why I stopped posting here. But good luck to those who do, unfortunately no one in power is watching or listening.
Roland, whilst sharing your views on what should be… I fear Martin may be right on what is.
And if the country I hold dear wasn’t being served up on a plate as a consequence by their cowardice, venality and ineptitude, I’d say the Conservatives deserve to reap all they have sown.
Having failed at the ballot box and vast uniquely funded over-dominance in the media (even with Murdoch around), they are seizing a sordid moment to make a major play.
Milly Dowler and her family has been discarded like yesterday’s news, literally, as an unholy minority cabal make a grab using the public’s distaste for the media, currently epitomised by the NoTW, to bring down any counter to their malign, and unique influence.
If Nick Robinson and his like manage to salvage Miliband. E by painting his pathetic eventual opportunism as anything other than a cynical point score, I fear for the future of this country in the hands of all such persons in the politico-media ‘elite’.
Great to see you back Martin!
Careful. It’s catching. Before you know it, you’ll be posting here like a good un!
Hi Martin, please keep commenting here!
I saw a comment on Guido from ‘Hang ’em High’ and the magic word ‘Mong’ was used. You, I presume.
Your pithy, amusing comments are much missed.
Welcome back, Martin! Good to hear from you again.
Martin,
I cannot believe it is you !
Please don’t go away again. You were much missed here.
Don’t give up hope, Martin. Not only the Government can affect change at the BBC. Some of them are just waiting for the right issue to pounce on.
It’s darn tempting to give up hope.
Just made a cuppa and switched on SKY to find out the country is essentially run by how Mumsnetters ‘feel’.
And some dopey Labour Co-op MP still trying to make out it’s all about Milly.
Back from the dead.
We have missed you Martin 😀 your abscence was felt by many, your razor sharp wit contributed much to this site.
Come back :'(
BBC-NUJ reports that NoW may have hacked phones of 7/7 relatives.
So will BBC-NUJ give priority to reporting sympathetically and extensively in the next few hours to remember the people who were murdered by Islamic jihadists on 7 July, 2005 in London?
Robert Peston today: ‘News Corp’s bid for BSkyB jeopardised’ – definately wishful thinking Mr Peston!
Let`s hope that all the skunk spray of the MSM regarding this case doesn`t gwet in the way of the Beeb reporting the following
1. Miliband removes elections to his shadow cabinet.
Maybe the BBC will show us how Labour doesn`t really want elections now(Browns coronation), because when it has them the series of slopbuckets that are candidates can`t help but fiddle their expenses -Hain, Harman and the whole sack of them.
2. NUJ vote to strike.
Hopefully the BBC get a bit of their own medicine with Serwotka or whoever preventing the Davis of the world from getting into “work”…and that the bitchslap between the bBC and the unions will get full reporting.
The BBC will no doubt tell us that removing elections is a good thing-Patten and Thompson wouldn`t get elected in a hundred years after all. No doubt too that the proposed strike will cause the cBBCs clients to tear up and look sad!…like the BBC when the cuts hit the poor!
I think the result of all this BBC analysis about the NotW affair is that news is best left to clever, impartial government paid types at the BBC.
However, using the ‘everyone in the rotten-to-the-core organisation is guilty’ approach that the BBC seems to favour for this current matter I’ve decided that BBC news itself is now deeply suspect.
In 2008 the government was found guilty of breaching our human right to privacy because of its phone tapping activities. That implicates all government staff, including the ones it pays to run its broadcaster.
By the way, has BBC News handed back that award for the Panorama programme which contained dishonest and staged clips of slave boys in India?
PMQs today sank to new depths.
Ed Miliband and the teenage Left are really terrified of Murdoch.
But, has anyone noticed how posh, rich boy Ed’s accent is increasingly Estuarine English ? Has he been taking lessons from Tony ?
Just what the country needs…
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/davidhughes/100095530/ed-miliband-has-declared-war-on-rupert-murdoch-this-could-get-interesting/
…another war.
Unlike media hacks, I define ‘interesting’ in the Chinese way.
The most liked comment seems pithy.
Tribal lines seem to be getting drawn.
If it gets ugly, it may be ‘interesting’ how things work out when the BBC representation gets translated into actual numbers as opposed to those it likes to invite on.
Hypocrisy of the left?
The Guardian/mirror uses the same methods over the same timefame and targeting the same victims…the BBC does not want to know about them, they are invisible. The BBC only sees its political enemies, and make no mistake about it NI is the only serious MSM challenger to the lefts utter domination of the MSM.
The BBC/CNN/ABC/CBC and others form the backbone of the lefts strategy to crush the right wing MSM and without NI the lef would have almost total mastery of the disemination of word news. Whatever this is about its got nothing to do with phone hacking, I say this because the very second a left wing rag is named and shamed the BBC will all of a sudden forget the story even exists. Except of course to snipe at NI from the sidelines.
In truth private investigators have been used by ALL MSM outlets, the BBC uses them as arms length deniable operators. The BBC makes a call to its pivate dicks whenever there is a Tory minister in the frame for anything AND its all paid for by the licence fee. Its high time the BBC was taken to task for its hypocrisy yet no BBC guest has yet grown a pair and asked the beeboid interviewer how many private investiators the BBC employs every year and more importantly their names and what investigations they have undertaken on behalf of beeboid central. Untill BBC victims start standing up and fighting back the abuse will continue.
This time there isn’t much to be done. The sleazy NOTW has outdone itself. Of course its enemies will gleefully attack it.