BBC coverage of the Tottenham thuggery has been utterly appalling. I note they have virtually lionised the “young man” Mark Duggan tragically killed whilst…erm…trying to murder a Police Officer, allegedly. Now we get the usual dross about looking for the “deeper reasons” behind the riots. I blame Thatcher – how about you?
LONDON’S BURNING…
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“The disturbances in Tottenham tonight are profoundly depressing”(by Toby Young)
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100099808/the-disturbances-in-tottenham-tonight-are-profoundly-depressing/
Note: Young’s final ‘stop press’ section.
Of course, re-Tottenham riots, BBC-NUJ-Labour automatically take an anti-Tory, pro-Labour, and implicitly. pro-mass immigration line.
RE: the Stop Press section, for ‘toe rag’ read ‘Beeboid’.
Oh we’ve had the BBC running the usual bollocks about ‘Moaty’ sorry Duggan.
The ‘black’ commuinty have shown their solidarity with the Duggan family by making off with 40″ plasma TV’s, I understand this is an ancient tradition that comes from Africa, where for centuries the plasma TV was a symbol of peace and understanding.
Martin absolutey hilarious.
It reminds me of those Livingstone like yute meetings where some arrogant ugly thug is presented by Ken as tomorrows future. The yute himself says he wants to give something back to the communty, to which a bloke in the audience shouts back
“you can start with my fucking radio cd player you knicked you thieving bastard”
the yute says no man I mean rap music I’m so deluded on crack that actually believe its of some poetic value. Of course Ken holding back the tears applauds
Thatcher, Tory cuts, the Jews…
Was quite Orwellian last night, although the bubble burst at 1AM as the BBC reporter and camera crew were viciously attacked by the peaceful demonstrators and the feed got cut for 30 minutes.
This morning all the talk on the Beeb is that ‘harsh cuts’ and no yoot clubs are to blame.
Not the fact a known gang lord shot a policeman.
Oh, if only they’d have had a table tennis club!
If only they’d have had a grant – and I don’t mearn Bernie!
I watched the far-left BBC News for some time, then switched to Sky, and the coverage was incomparable. The far-left BBC just interviewed a string of black-supremacists, telling us how the poor black man is victimised and constantly stopped & searched (now why would the police want to stop and search the demographic that is responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime in that area!?)
One of them stated – unchallenged – that Cynthia Jarrett was ‘murdered’ by police in 1985, when in fact she suffered a heart attack when police raided her home to arrest her son.
They seem to have forgotten to mention that Mark Duggen was a gun-toting gangster and unemployed father of four, who tried to shoot a cop, or that gun and knife crime has reached epidemic proportions within the black ‘community’.
Switch to Sky and they have a commentator criticising the police for being too soft, both last night and in general.
Dotun Adebuyo on Up All Night was getting very defensive on 5Live last night. By his own admission he is a Tottenham boy and grew up on the Broadwater Farm estate in the eighties. No mention of whether he was invovled or a victim of the riots then.
It seems to me we have
(a) an alledegly criminal who when stopped by the police tried to kill an officer
(b) a police officer trying to defend himself after his life is threatened
(c) the would-be cop killer gets killed as he tries to kill the officer
(d) the police can’t comment due to IPCC investigation
(e) the total failure of community leadership before last night’s incident — stand up Mr Lammy — during this tense time
(f) idiots ransack shops in their own community and create criminal damage — causing even more problems for their own community
I can’t say I have much sympathy for anyone other than the innocent shop owners and the law abiding citizens of Totenham.
I hope each and everyone of these thugs and criminals is caught and banged up.
Yes Adebuyo had a rather creepy voice on last night when he was talking to plod.
Anita the chin Anand is also a Tottenham girl, personally I’ve had ot visit Tottenham a few times, it’s a total shit hole and dump.
I have just had 5 minute “dose” of the BBC 24hr news. (I couldn’t take any more).
Lammy WAS defending civilised behaviour and he WAS pushing back at the off-camera interventions saying “we want justice”.
Then the BBC had some “writer” on saying “I don’t live in Tetttenham but I am staying here at the moment – the police need to talk to thses youths – they won’t wait six months for a report”.
Very inflammatory in my opinion – attempting to justify this riotouse behaviour. It is not the role of a public broadcaster to undermine the areas elected represetntative.
I can understand why David Lammy would not wish to live among the people who voted for him.
The criminal Duggan looks responsible for his own death.
An enquiry by the Independent Police Complaints Commission was put in hand that very day.
But no – the family and “friends” decided to start a “protest” outside Tottenham police station. Utterly pointless – except to whip up trouble. They must have known that the criminal fraternity in Tottenham’s black “community” could well take advantage and cause mayhem.
So I blame the “friends” and family of the criminal Duggan for what ensued last night.
That’s the narrow picture.
The wider picture is that after decades of growth in the Caribbean “community” we had major riots in several cities in 1981. Not to mention the endless trouble at Notting Hill carnivals. Total failure of much of that “community” to integrate properly. High crime rates, low education levels, unemployment, the new drugs trade, and feckless idle youth with a grudge of victimhood.
So as a nation we had already seen the failure of a large slug of over-fast immigration, of ghettos forming, of alien levels of violence. We then saw the growth of gun crime and knife crime based in the errant “community”. But endless bleats of victimhood – and then a Met Police neutered by PC attitudes.
So what did Labour do ? Invite a huge wave of immigration from other countries, mostly with little in common with the indigenous folk of this country in terms of education levels – heck, they don’t even try to speak English properly. Further ghettos, now compounded by religious strife.
I refuse to listen to all the BBC claptrap about the present trouble. LBC is giving it straight – yes they have the whiners on, but they are also giving voice to straightforward moral concern, straight criticisms from members of the public of the lawlessness and violence within the “community”.
i wonder how P.C Blakelock’s widow feels about the far-left BBC’s commentators referring to the 1985 riots as an ‘uprising’?
Are you a violent theiving yob, if so the BBC would like to handle your propaganda…
Are you in Tottenham? Were you at the protest? Please fill in the form below if you are willing to be interviewed by the BBC.
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Are you one of these hard-done by oppressed youth rioting against The Cuts?
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2389/tottenhamriotersguardia.jpg
With the cost of a petrol bomb having risen dramatically, do you find you are unable to afford going rioting like you used to?
News 24 this morning had a so called “community Leader being interviewed.
Right at the end of the interview he threw in a “rumour” that a female, peaceful, protester, was attacked by a batton wielding policeman and that kicked it all off.
Uncomfirmed though.
What was the saying in WW II. Careless talk costs lives?
The BBC let Stephanie ‘Two Eds’ Flanders claim that loose lips can cause a recession, so why not?
What I have heard is she threw a brick at the Bill and they went for her, as you do, if you’re a copper doing your job, and crowd trouble ensued. I heard some guy on 5Live claiming she was just asking the Police questions and they arrested her for that. Lying git.
I know from my own contacts that the police in this part of London are unwilling to confront the gang culture that results in tens of stabbings of school-age children each year.
The police need to front-up to this lawlessness and illegality.
Perhaps a “Boston” joint-enterprise attack on gang members is now the way forward. (ALL members of a gang are held liable for ANY crimes of ANY of their members – some gangs in Wood Green have 400 members).
The BBC has made itself irrelevant. This site should be re-named accordingly.
I think we all know that since the Macpherson report, the police have had their hands tied when dealing with ‘communities’ such as this, and are in constant fear of being accused of Witchcraft, err, sorry, I mean ‘racism’.
Precisely, John of Enfield. This is the culmination of years of the police pussyfooting around the burgeoning, cancerous growth of gang culture. With my own eyes I can see its pernicious swaggering presence all over north London. It needs to be crushed. These nihilistic packs of morons respect only one thing – the will to use superior force, & the will to exact punitive, exemplary punishment; for as long as it takes.
Impose martial law: looters will be shot.
Yes, the BBC is as irrelevant as the selection of toppings you can have on your yummy latte.
Collective punishment is a slippery slope. What do you say should happen to members of, say the BNP, should one of them be found with a gun? Every one of them locked up? Tempting … but not exactly British is it?
There are better ways of crushing this problem. Ways that hurt the villains not their neighbours. A short sharp shock? No a long brutal beating seems more appropriate.
Since Brixton the Police have been totally demoralised by a society that failed to defend them doing their job. Until we get a political party that takes head on the Marxist strategy of Political Correctness, we’re going to continue to be paralysed by the crap that has seeped into the core of our society.
Paralysed is the word, Hippie. A criminal, whatever his colour, race, ethnicity, religion, is a criminal & should be treated as such. The police have been hamstrung by PC & ‘cultural sensitivity’, & by legions of apologists & closet supporters of black criminality. Some not so closeted: there were some suspicious looking whites in the mob. SWP/UAF sticking it to the man? Where’s the equality in giving certain sections of society the blind eye? Well, to the beeboids, blacks & muslims can have a free pass any day of the week, whatever they have done. Given the technology at the Met’s disposal I expect hundreds more arrests in the next few days, & for the Police Force to bust every rioter/looter for every crime they have committed. Never mind throwing the book at them, throw the entire bloody library. Followed by an outsourced sentence (5 years) in a Turkish/Polish prison – far away from the brothers. Tottenham’s black community? So, so much to answer for.
Butter wouldn’t melt . . .
Looks like a bel end.
Butter wouldn’t melt in his handgun.
“systemic racism” “the murder of Mark Duggan” “police brutality” “Smiley Culture”…eh? I must be tuned to BBC News.
THE TWO TOTTENHAM RIOTS
Riot one : (Courtesy of BBC TV and Radio)
A happy go-lucky 29 year old is shot dead, albeit in the back of a police car, by right-wing Met-officers with nothing better to do.
Understandably, poor downtrodden imigrants and disaffected local youths despairing from those evil Tory Government cuts, get upset about the reduction of Police killings, so peacfully make a point.
Riot two : (Courtesy of Sky TV)
Chancers, who wouldn’t know the difference between racism and a 40″ Plasma screen, make the most of it and couldn’t care less how many people are burnt to death living above the shops they’ve just ransacked.
You pay your money (not optional with the BBC) and take your chances when you tune in for the development of this story.
So the bBC have allowed David Akinsanya to opine that Mark Duggan was murdered, that the young people have heard on the news that a police radio had a bullet inside it (His exact words)
Then they allowed some black vicar to extol how the police are in the wrong that the family want justice and that the rioters only want answers.
Now the bBC is pushing the view that the riots happened after a young woman was battered by the …police during a peaceful protest.
The bBC reporter has such a smug expression on his face, he is almost laughing at all the destruction, which he has no problem blaming on the ..police.
Lamy (MP) is on blaming this on outside elements and not local people.
Yet a local black woman who was interviewed blamed it in local people who are not…British and who have recently moved to the area unfortunately she wasn’t allowed to speak for long as she was heaping the blame ont he people who carried it out, the black people of Tottenham. Which is exactly what this is. Black gangs rule with a rod of iron in that part of London, this is a message from them to the Police that they rule and to leave their leaders alone. Why isn’t the bbC reporting this instead it pushes out inflammatory words such as: Murder, racist, Police brutality. Police incompetence, Peaceful protestors, 1985 (that was 26 years ago bBC) People want answers. Why some black bloke interviewed by the bBC was asked what does he want to see from the IPC inquest , the Blackman replies: Justice, truth and honesty.
It seems the bBC is more interested in promulgating hate speech and lies in which to ensure that the rioters are seen as justified and the rest of society as closet racists. They say that pigs don’t shit in the place where they live, but to the nice peace loving law abiding people of Tottenham that is how they do it back in the mother country.
The bbC really are the fifth column in the UK
Currently the bBC idiot is pushing out the justice line for the death of an armed gunman is the reason why the riots transpired. Here are 3 vidos on You-Tube of looters in Wood-Green at 5 this morning. Have a look and see how many people there are, have a look at their skin colour.
Video 1
Video 2
Video 3
And the bbC doesn’t mention any of this, instead they mention…Justice for a armed thug who died in a shoot out
Justice was done when that piece of piece of filth was laying dead on the pavement last Thursday evening.
I for one wont forget mr lammy’s involvement in baby P’s death,kept his head down for months.As the mp he should have gone.liebore are above the law again.
BBC giving a lot of coverage to some numpty who is blaming ‘outsiders’ for the rioting looting and arson. I wonder what would the BBCs response be to any white person who blamed ‘outsiders’ for any of the problems of this country.
Black kids flying over from Harlem to take advantage of an opportunity, are they? *DONT_KNOW*
Or busing in from Harlesden. Its much the same sort of manor.
There was another killing in south London yesterday. Yet another young black shot by a gang of blacks. A generation ago I couldn’t have believed that London would become such a vile gang dominated shit hole. Multiculturalism and mass immigration have done for the land that I love. Parts of the capital no longer seem part of England. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if far left thugs also got involved. There were an awful lot of white scumbags there as well.
Still, some good news. The BBC van got attacked!
Wasn`t there some Haringey “celebration” of the 1985 “uprising” that ended up in the death of Keith Blakelock?
Instead of letting them ineptly employ Lammys, Shoesmiths and St Bernies of Grant-couldn`t we use Labours last set of laws/guidelines to prosecute Labours Councillors of Haringey for “glorifying violence/terrorism”…and stick the Lord Haw Haws of the BBC in the dock to save precious funding…a class action prosecution or show trial would really life the spirits of the nation?
If the black thug had been called Horatio, I`m pretty sure that the BBC would be mocking his name and double barrelled tendencies-like that Guardian witch a few weeks ago over the two posh blokes killed on a gap year in Thailand…she was a Beeb stringer wasn`t she?
They cseem to cringe around Duggans double barrelled tendency though don`t they?
Final thought-if that trip wire froze over and let the polar bear kill that lad-ther`s no issue with global warming is there?…maybe a little more of it could have saved the lads life?
Surely we`ll be seeing the risk assessment forms that Eton had to fill out…plenty old boys at the Beeb could pull a few old ties for us.
As for me-I`ve a new -found respect for Foxes glacier mints!
Who is David Akinsanya?
I haven’t been following the BBC coverage and have been nowhere near a television so most of what I’ve been seeing as been via the internet. Just be reading through the comments here and picked up on Pounce’s observations, especially this:
So the bBC have allowed David Akinsanya to opine that Mark Duggan was murdered, that the young people have heard on the news that a police radio had a bullet inside it (His exact words)
following later in the same post we have this:
Now the bBC is pushing the view that the riots happened after a young woman was battered by the …police during a peaceful protest.
I’ve also been over at the Inspector gadget blog reading some of the comments and picked up on this comment:
David Akinsanya – a journalist apparently being interviewed on BBC news. mentions a girl being attacked by police because she had marched up officers outside the police station and was shouting at them about ‘the murder’ on thursday. What murder? Of course – no challenge from the news reader, outrageous.
Obviously as I’ve not been watching I’m presuming from reading this that they are one and the same thing.
So when I read this report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14412752
and find this within it:
Local resident David Akinsanya said he arrived at the scene moments after the incident.
He said he was told by a witness that a police officer had shouted to the man to stop “a couple of times”, but the man had not heeded the warning.
The witness, who lives next to the spot where it happened, then heard four shots, Mr Akinsanya said.
“There were lots of helicopters and sirens all over the place,” he added.
“There was also a surveillance van on the corner.”
(Might be worth a screen grab before it gets a rewrite)
What are we to make of it. I’m I the only one who finds it odd that this person keeps cropping up in the story and how the narrative seems to have changed. Firstly he starts off as local resident and now he’s a journalist.
Unless of course the BBC just happened to stumble across another David Akinsanya. One presumes that if they were one and the same person they would know this about him:
http://cdn.policyreview.tv/speaker/1235.html
Just curious really.
In a news article from 1999 David Akinsanya is reported as being a “BBC producer”.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/501054.stm
I could be confusing him with somebody else, but i’m sure I heard him say that he wasn’t a resident, he’d just been staying in the area for a few days.
Apparently he’s not going down too well on Twitter either:
http://twitter.com/#!/search/david%20akinsanya
Many negative comments, but it eems like a fair amount of twatter saying he’s done a good job, and one even called the BBC ‘apologists’ for the poilce. Not a good sign.
Him a snitch an ting, ya get me innit!
Is this the same one?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-gay-man-who-wants-to-go-straight-501935.html
I meet Akinsanya on his barge, moored at Mill Meadows in Henley-on-Thames. He comments wryly on his “gay leopard-skin patterned slippers” and the glorious bunches of lilies in every nook of the barge. There are dozens of snapshots on the walls of his friends’ children, as well as those teenagers for whom he is a respite foster-carer.
Wow, living on a barge in Henley on Thames, every down wid da youf!
A single man with pictures of other peoples kids on his walls? Is there an allegation missing?
A French Intifada
Looks like the French have an even bigger problem…Including with the left wing media reporting. Can we expect the same to develop over here?
http://tinyurl.com/3d6w27m
A process described by some as the Islamization of Europe, by others as the failure of Europeans to integrate Muslim immigrants, has reached a breaking point in France. One of the most troubling manifestations of this discord is the development of a particular type of violence that is more than the sum of its parts. A sampling of this year’s news reports reads like a catalogue of stomping, stabbing, shooting, torching, and sacking; attacks on teachers, policemen, firemen, old ladies, and modest retirees; turf wars, tribal fights, murder over women, over attitude, over nothing; dead youths, murderous youths, bodies scattered across a national battlefield….
The situation across the Channel may well be even worse, John; hence the high poll ratings for Marine Le Pen. Streets in Paris are regularly blocked off for plein air Muslim prayers/shows of force. Check the internet for video clips of the Paris Techno Parade 2010 for a sample of the delights of ‘enrichment’ & ‘diversity’. White people were singled out for pack beatings as the thugs shouted out triumphantly the numbers of their arrondissements. Ah, Gay Paree.
Back in blighted Blighty the beeboids are already whipping up the predictable confection that will be known as ‘The Tottenham Uprising’. If the situation wasn’t so serious I could yawn at their mind-numbing predictability. I imagine the editor of Today is already winging his way back from his interrupted 5 week holiday in Spain. Tomorrow morning’s broadcast should be a classic of omission & wilful distortion.
The Parisians have a dry sense of humour. The intensely muslim district equivalent of Tottenham in I think the similar North West Paris suburbs is the 93rd district.
As “ninety-three” in French is the rather intellectually demanding “quatrevingt treize”, the residents are demeaningly referred to as the “neuf trois”
The problem is the same – the concentration of social housing that enable an immigrant underclass to afford to live in expensive cities. Their HLM’s are basically almost free accommodation. Estates are virtual no-go areas like here.
Le Pen is a decorated National Hero, Would that we had someone of equivalent stature instead of Cameron’s greasy-pole climbing little pigmies.
Le Pen is an anti-Semitic, fascist scumbag. He gets a lot of Muslim votes in France.
You know the old joke about the guy who murders his parents then pleads for sympathy because he’s an orphan?
Well we get a variation on that theme by beeboid desk person on BBC News channel. She demands that London’s Deputy Mayor take propmt action to deal with those made homeless in Tottenham.
I too saw this Maxine Beeboid berating the deputy Mayor for “the police overreaction…and for being too slow to act(no, don`t ask…they just say this stuff!).
Having been away for the week-it`s a delight to see that the BBCs staff haven`t lost their air of entitlement to drag anyone but the guilty over the coals..to demand remorse/action…whatever Red Ed might demand were he here to speak for us all!
Utterly despicable-limitless presumption arrogance malice, handwringing and perpetual grievances as cooked up by the liberal elite!
To ask the Deputy Mayor what he`ll be doing to put up the homeless…as if the crims had had nothing to do with it…is real cheek!
Let`s hope we can commandeer Bush House and Television Centre to hand over the weeks paninis…and put those festering studios of theirs to some use in sheltering the vulnerable!
Just seen the brother of the criminal Mark Duggan complaining saying he never shot the policeman.
I guess that leaves either the minicab driver OR the police shot himself.
Enough said.
If it kicks off again tonight in Tottenham I hope the police dogs are let loose and a few police batons are wrapped around people’s heads.
The Akinsanya guy seems to be Tottenham’s sole resident.
If you Google him with a “news” filter he is quoted as a “local resident” witness on the shooting incident and/or the riots by:-
The Independent
The Mail
The Sun
ITN
The BBC
Associated Press
The Guardian
The Mirror
Sky News
http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=david+akinsanya&p1=%5BNewsVertical+Ver%3d%222%22%5D&first=1&FORM=PENR
I first noticed him during the riots last night, interviewed by the BBC, when he said “I arrived just behind the police station, in a car with a journalist from the Guardian”.
Seemed a bit odd for the Graun hack to be sharing a car with “a local resident” – but a bit of general Googling on Akinsanya reveals all.
He’s a regular writer in the Guardian on sociological matters related to “community yoofs” as well as his “brought up in care” background and his curious battles with his own sexuality outlined above.
He also pops up regularly at the Beeb – variously as a “documentary producer”, a guest on Wimmins Sour and even a bizarre article where complains that illegal immigrants are barbecueing swans near his houseboat.
In other words – he’s a standard issue Graun/BBC go-to, ethnic leftie for “community” matters.
Why he seems omnipresent when “yoof” violence kicks off is a bit of a mystery.
I also Googled the angry black pastor who was doing a bit of mob incitement on the Beeb this morning – demanding “answers” for his “community” from the Police.
He’s called the Rev Nims Obunge and has an extensive portfolio of positions on various Police, Mayoral and national bodies dealing with black gang culture:-
<i>Rev Nims Obunge is the Pastor of Freedoms Ark Church and also serves as the Chief Executive of the Peace Alliance which is a national crime reduction charity working on a local and national basis in partnership with faith, community & statutory organisations, the police, and councils.
His experience as a leader extends beyond his work as a Pastor and Chief Executive into his involvement on various boards and associations such as the Home Office Round Table on Gun Crime, The Metropolitan Police Trident Independent Advisory Group, the
National Crack Advisory Board and the London Crimestoppers Advisory Board. He is also a member of the Metropolitan PoliceAssociation scrutiny panel on Stop & Search and chairs the Criminal Justice Board’s (CJB) Advisory Group. His drive and leadership often results in him being consulted by senior Home Office and Scotland Yard officials on issues related to ethnicity, diversity, young people and crime.</i>
http://www.jerichofilms.com/iwilltell/spring09/speaker1_nims.html
My question is – if he’s so plugged in to policing, he must understand that “answers” about the black kid’s death can only come after the IPCC report.
By repeatedly demanding them today, he’s just inciting further violence by his “community”.
This whole sorry affair reminds me of Tom Wolfe’s excellent book, “The Bonfire of the Vanities” – in which the accidental death of a black youth, run over by a rich banker, is ruthlessly exploited by race-hustling “community leaders” and their media lackeys to stir up major racial trouble for their own ends.
The pastor is a “race hustler”
Unfortunately whitey civil service folk don’t actually have any black rioting mates on speed dial, and the race relations industry “reach out to the community” gap is filled by these opportunist race-hustlers, otherwise known as “Community Elders/leaders” whatever. Livingstone and Lee Jaspers come to mind.
National Crack Advisory Board, FFS, Martin could do that in his spare time!
I haven’t heard the words, “black”, “Afro”, or “Caribbean” in any of the bBC reports. I wonder why?
Watched most of the news of the rioting on Sky last night. When the ads came on switched to BBC News Channel around 12.15 am where the female Beeboid in the studio was conducting a phone interview with a Guardian journalist at the scene. The rioters were being described only as local youths, ethnicity was not mentioned once. Suddenly the Beeboid interrupted the Guardian journalist by saying “there are some Jewish people there.” The inference being they were part of the riot. Indeed, there were a number of Hasidic Jews there as onlookers (probably owners of businesses being attacked), but even the Guardian journalist wouldn’t rise to that kind of bait.
Typical Beeboid! Loathe to mention the ethnicity of the wrongdoers,but couldn’t stop herself highlighting the presence of some Jewish onlookers.
How the bBC explains to the world why Tottenham went up in flames last night.
London riots: Tensions behind unrest revealed
Rioting has again erupted on the streets of Tottenham almost 26 years after the Broadwater Farm riot. But what lies beneath the latest violent outburst in this chequered corner of north London? The unrest hours earlier followed the fatal shooting by police of 29-year-old Mark Duggan last week, and a protest march to a High Road police station on Saturday evening in which they demanded “justice”.
South Bank University student Jake Manu, 28, said Mr Duggan’s death and the subsequent lack of dialogue from the police triggered the riot. But he said tensions – some racial – had been bubbling for a long time.”The police never talk to us, they ignore us, they don’t think we’re human in this area,” he said.”We get pulled over all the time like criminals. If you’re wearing a black hood, [if] you’re a black man, they pull you over for no reason.”
The march for Mr Duggan began from the Broadwater Farm area, evoking memories of 6 October 1985. It was at Broadwater Farm housing estate that a police officer was stabbed to death in riots triggered by the death of local resident Cynthia Jarrett. Her heart had failed after police raided her home, adding to already existing racial tensions between local black youths and the largely white Metropolitan Police.
Youth worker Michelle Jackson, 43, said people were angry that the police were talking to the media but not to Mr Duggan’s family. She also said racial tensions between police and local youths had underpinned events.”I knew the person that was shot, he’s a really nice guy, and they’re making him out to be some kind of gangster involved in guns and all that kind of stuff.
“The way the police treat black people is like we’re nothing, they handle us really like we’re nothing. They speak to the young people like they’re nothing.” She said the police needed to engage more with youngsters.”They pull us out of cars like we’re drug dealers. The only reason why people did what they did is because this is the only way we’re going to get heard,” she said.
She said it was not just black people rioting, but people from all nationalities and ages.
Former accountant Alfred Griffith, 68, who has lived in the area for almost 30 years, said: “I have seen the behaviour of some of the police in this area and I haven’t been happy about it.
Norma Jones, 48, who works in human resources, said she saw people of all colours and creeds running along her road carrying carpets looted from a nearby shop.“It’s young people and the police, but not a black and white thing at all.”
Strewth, anyone with half a brain would know its in the interests of criminals to spread propaganda to stop the Police doing their job. Too many people at the BBC all to eager to facilitate them – fa’ da revolution, dread!
“rachelkennedy84 Rachel Kennedy
RT @chrishams: Best pics from last night’s events in #Tottenham bbc.in/qxzgho”
“rachelkennedy84 Rachel Kennedy
@jessbrammar though at least the chopper will be elsewhere tonight, might even sleep..”
https://twitter.com/#!/rachelkennedy84
Only “events” chaps not “riots” so everything is OK. Glad to see that she takes it seriously.
While you’re at it:
Another idiot from the BBC without a brain.
“BenAndo Ben Ando
Home Sec also abroad? What is this, factory fortnight for the Government?”
https://twitter.com/#!/BenAndo
I wonder what he expects the Home Secreatary to do – mount a posse.
‘BBC correspondent. Any ill-judged opinions expressed here are my own…’
Yet another gem from the twittosphere.
As the public seems unresponsive to the initial ‘anger & sympathy’ meme and are pretty much wise to who is doing what and why, the BBC has moved to the ‘why wasn’t anything done more quickly/they are not talking to us/who is on holiday’ line of attack.
Now, I do recall being a bit perturbed when it transpired that Prescott was running the country at one stage, so the level of cover over the school hols is pertinent. And if the entire senior management of government of police have all pissed off to their villas leaving inadequate 24/7 back-up then indeed ‘questions need to be asked’.
However, in the spirit of ‘ill-judged opinions’, for Mr. Ando to raise holiday absences when the entire BBC seems to have left a global media group in care of the interns while they bask with Polly for 2 months seems… brave.
Odd the BBC have chosen not to re-broadcast this dramatic footage. Wonder why?
Katharine Birbalsingh is bang on target:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/katharinebirbalsingh/100099830/these-riots-were-about-race-why-ignore-the-fact/
What crimes against society has J D Sports perpetrated? Why are the protesters venting their anger by looting that specific store? What odds that the police will have to pay compensation to the looters?
“What crimes against society has J D Sports perpetrated? Why are the protesters venting their anger by looting that specific store”
They stock nice trainers and have the temerity to charge money for them.
They are responsible for people going around wearing boats on their feet. That’s a crime against humanity.
The BBC coverage so far is yet another predictable string of bogus hate crimes in which the police and wider community are being blamed. I think their aim is for every black to think his ancestors were brought here on slave ships.
The truth, as opposed to the BBC ‘truth’, is that courageous policemen were at a very real risk of losing their lives at the hands of a selfish criminal, skin colour of no relevance.
Meanwhile a number of supposedly powerless and oppressed natural-born losers have trashed businesses and livelihoods, from which many will undoubtedly walk away scot-free.
I see on the news: “Reverend Nims Obunge, Pastor at the Freedom’s Ark Church, in Tottenham, and Chief Executive of the Peace Alliance says the local community is “crying out for justice”.”
Next Thursday’s Special Question Time live from Tottenham. Star guest:
Rev Nims Obunge, the Pastor of Freedoms Ark Church.
In six months: Thought for the Day, Woman’s Hour, and a profile on Newsnight:
In a year – a ‘Panorama’ Special “Obunge”s Tottenham”
In two years: guest on chat shows – e.g. “Graham Norton talks to Nims Obunge about his lifestyle”, “I’m A Celebrity Get me Out of Here!” – and I don’t mean Tottenham.
Then the book: “A Cry For Justice” by Nims Obunge
A movie starring Idris Elba…
Isn’t it nice to in on the start of a career?
A very incisive post, Louis. That’s exactly how it works.
A blind person, listening to BBC-NUJ ‘reports’ on Tottenham riots, would have little clue as to the ethnic composition of the rioters.
When I first heard about the riots on Radio 4 at 9a.m it was glaringly obvious that the rioters were not ‘blonde hair and blue eyed’ but with the £3 billion of tax payers money and only a short tube ride from the BBC why did I have to turn to the internet to get the full story?
For BBC-NUJ-
[Tottenham] “has also been one of the main hotspots for gangs and gun crime in the United Kingdom during the past three decades. This followed the rise of gangs and drug wars throughout the area, notably those involving the Tottenham Mandem gang and various gangs from Hackney and all of the areas surrounding Tottenham, and the emergence of an organised crime ring known as the Turkish Mafia was said to have controlled more than 90% of the UK’s heroin market.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham
Why, at this moment, does BBC-NUJ censor what it knows about?; a BBC-NUJ report (Oct 2010)-
“Could Turkish and Kurdish gangs become new ‘mafia’?”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11325134
Apparently, riots may be spreading to Enfield, North London:
“Capital sees second night of clashes.Clashes broke out between police and rioters in Enfield, north London, tonight, in a second night of violence in the capital. ”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8687680/Capital-sees-second-night-of-clashes.html
And just to cheer us all up, the Notting Hell carnival is three weeks away. Think I’ll take a trip to the coast…
If the police can’t cope why isn’t the army called in?
There is no army. Dave got rid of it – we won’t need one ever again, he said.
It’s over for London. It has been for some while but the refusal to face reality has led to a policy of denial.
If you are white get out now. If you are black or Asian middle class get out now.
The place has no future. A city of dreadful night and in it’s death throes.
My family never never want to go there again .
It’s a little more complex than London: not London.
The problem is London’s Labour Councils, who use their influence over social housing to feed in more immigrants to fuel racial tension and undermine Camerons detoxification mission.
The gerrymandering of England by the Labour-compliant Boundary Commission under the Blair-Brown’s “Destroy the English” Plan (TM) continues unhindered on the watch of Polar -bear attracting Toff-Man.
London looks more and more to me like Chicago (Obamaland) – a chequer board of black/white squares. Went to Richmond last week and it was almost totally white. Came home to see the street filled with African women pushing baby-buggies. Try getting a school place in three years time! All those cute fuzzywuzzies. But where are the English children? Moved.
“London looks more and more to me like Chicago (Obamaland) – a chequer board of black/white squares. Went to Richmond last week and it was almost totally white. Came home to see the street filled with African women pushing baby-buggies.”
It’s not just London. It must be fifteen years since I drove through Wolverhampton on the way to Stafford and initially was in an all-white world straight from 50’s US television. All-white, not mostly or almost exclusively: ALL.
Thought this was kinda bizarre, bearing in mind the vast immigration into the West Midlands, but then I drove under a bridge and for the next mile found myself in downtown Karachi. NO white faces. NO black faces. Only Asians.
A mile or so along, drove under another bridge and we’re back to being ALL-WHITE once again. Presumably if I’d gone down another road I’d have found the all-black section of Wolves.
Just the oddest thing I’d ever seen: still boggles me.
Oh the fruits of Labours social experiment have come home to roost:
Black gun/Knife crime kills more black young men than the Taliban have British soldiers.
Islamic terrorists have killed more people in London than the IRA have.
People banned from the country free to come and fight for the right to remain at the taxpayers’ expense.
Hoards of immigrants come to London simply to carry out crime.
Acts of violence against Gays/Jews/White people from labours friends at an all time high.
Rioting now accepted as an acceptable pastime by the left in which to see their heroes (Labour) back in power.
Anybody who complains is instantly deemed a racist and thus silenced
And we wonder why somebody sick of what he saw in his own country decided to make a stand by shooting dead 76 of the people who support the polices which had ruined his country.
Maybe Tottenham could be added to the long list of “Zones urbaines sensibles” in Europe.
http://www.libertiesalliance.org/2009/07/12/atlas-des-zones-urbaines-sensibles-no-go-areas-in-france/
BBC-NUJ propaganda for Bangladeshis of London, written by one MOAZZIN HOSSAIN, of BBC BENGALI Service (paid for by you know who):-
His first propaganda sentence:
“The benefits of generations of Bangladeshis migrating to London’s East End, with its rich and colourful array of Asian shops and businesses, are everywhere to be seen.” (?)
But there is a BUT, and it’s about increasing numbers of Bangladeshis taking DRUGS.
“British Bangladeshis battle against drugs”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14065527
But, of those ‘benefits’ of mass Bangladeshi immigration!
And that mass immigration continues, with BBC-NUJ in the fore of the campaign.
George R
The East End was mostly a slum, but huge investement after the WW2 bombing was improving the place – especially after the Tory designation of the Isle of Dogs as a development area.
But then the Bangladeshis arrived.
Let’s be blunt -they were mostly peasants. Who brought in more peasants, and lots of their elderly dependents.
The old East End, formerly occupied by poor but hard-working indigenous Brits, is now a sink of unemployment, TB, idle older men as well as young men, Islamist hostility, huge NHS costs etc etc.
“Diversity” ?
The BBC deliberately avoids the serios problems in the East End.
Even in the height of the Blitz attacks on the London Docks and therefore the East End, Hitler did not stop the locals walking the streets at night.
Labour’s new guests make it fairly unsafe for indigenous people to walk at night off the main streets. And unsafe for many young women to walk in daytime.
Yes, in a perverse way, Blair’s International Socialism has succeeded where Hitler’s National Socialism failed.
I listened to mucho of 5 Live’s coverage in the morning, and while inevitably they had people on expressing tossy comments, the presenters were biased as well. Biased against the riot. Should BBC presenters be biased against riots? Not if one is a Marxist tosser like Sue McGregor.
The ex-Met now ‘Guardian Gendarme’ Peter Bleksley she had on her programme earlier this year celebrating similar unbridled criminality in Brixton in ’85 was interviewed giving his Marxist analysis of the causes (nothing to do with criminality he would apparently have us believe) including blaming the Police for ‘lack of community outreach’ or some such. How many is it? 6, 8 of his ex-colleagues seriously injured in hospital, and he’s acting as a spokesman for the scurvy who put them there? I believe in police parlance, this ex-colleague of theirs is a ‘scrote’.
There are a fair few ex-Met with media profiles, including the guy below, who could give more mainstream opinions on why there are riots than Mr Bleksley. While the 5Live coverage I heard was excellent, it would be great if they could as well/instead get guys like Dick Kirby on to opine:-
http://www.dickkirby.com/
He doesn’t make a career out of agitprop and slagging off his ex-colleagues, past and present.
I listened to mucho of 5 Live’s coverage in the morning, and while inevitably they had people on expressing tossy comments, the presenters were biased as well. Biased against the riot. Should BBC presenters be biased against riots? Not if one is a Marxist tosser like Sue McGregor.
The ex-Met now ‘Guardian Gendarme’ Peter Bleksley she had on her programme earlier this year celebrating similar unbridled criminality in Brixton in ’85 was interviewed giving his Marxist analysis of the causes (nothing to do with criminality he would apparently have us believe) including blaming the Police for ‘lack of community outreach’ or some such. How many is it? 6, 8 of his ex-colleagues seriously injured in hospital, and he’s acting as a spokesman for the scurvy who put them there? I believe in police parlance, this ex-colleague of theirs is a ‘scrote’.
There are a fair few ex-Met with media profiles, including the guy below, who could give more mainstream opinions on why there are riots than Mr Bleksley. While the 5Live coverage I heard was excellent, it would be great if they could as well/instead get guys like Dick Kirby on to opine:-
http://www.dickkirby.com/
He doesn’t make a career out of agitprop and slagging off his ex-colleagues, past and present.
Extremely loose-lipped of me to assume that Peter Bleksley’s ex-colleagues would consider him a ‘scrote’ for now being a ‘Guardian Gendarme’. He has an extremely distinguished record, as you’ll see if you view the youtube instalments below, but it is nevertheless appalling the way he slags off the Met over Brixton, and now Tottenham, while ex-colleagues of his were and are lying seriously injured in hospital having suffered violent disorder from abject criminals.
Actually I have little sympathy for plod, especially the senior officers who all seem to read the Guardian newspaper and are full of politically corect crap.
Why is it that if the EDL or Countryside alliance go on a march plod gets stuck in without worrying but as soon as any sort of riot involves leftists or ‘efniks’ the Police seem to back off?
Where is the tear gas, the rubber bullets and the water canon?
The moment this sort of thing kicks off plod should be in there cracking skulls in a massive scale, senior plods should simply tell the media to get lost and the politicians.
So long as plod is politically motivated, which in fairness was mostly done under 13 years of failed Labour government, but has continued under the Tories they won’t get my support.
Plod should not stand by and let people smash up property using the excuse that “we can catch them later” is of no use to a shop owner who has his livelihood ruined by vermin and leftist scum.
In contrast, the Met police, the UK political elite (inc INBBC) will adopt an oppositional attitude to English Defence League demonstration in Tower Hamlets on 3rd September.
So will I and anyone else who doesn’t get suckered by crypto-fascism.
Martin – it’s all about who’s in charge. Plod can lord it over the the whites because they won’t fight back; but they are shit-scared of the muslims and blacks because they will give them a kicking and have got the BBC and Labour party to excuse their behaviour.
We had a Police Force (yeah, guardianos – Force, not ‘Service’) that was the envy of the world, but after a Marxist assault and the failure of society to defend it (there’s only so much the Police can do after all to politically defend themselves, having to be outside of politics) we now have the neutered embarrassment for which we are all to blame.
I feel really sorry for the boys in blue these days who have to defend society from crime with both arms and a leg shackled behind their backs. They can’t, and society is being destroyed and will be, unless political leadership or a new political party rises that can ‘get back to basics’ and launch a counter attack on the subversives who seek to destroy our democratic society and are having remarkable success.
Quite agree, the police used excessive force against the countryside alliance, yet pussyfoot with blacks and muslims. Yes, the senior officers are all but useless, indoctrinated with leftist claptrap, most should be sacked, but Cameron is as useless as they come. I remember during the LA riots, the korean shopkeepers fended off the black rioters with shotguns and assault rifles, killing many, good for them. The police have plenty of guns, use them. Not likely with the lily-livered officers in charge. Mark my words, if Cameron does not get a handle on this, we will soon have troops on the streets.
Neasden and Southall next
McPherson was the tipping point against common decency and for scum, whatever the criminality of a few evil white boys.
No doubt he lives now in a totally white Oxfordshire village where the only “darky” is the proprietor local Indian restaurant, thriving on the business of those superannuated lawyers, solicitors and accountants in the village too lazy to drive to the nearest Waitrose. Inventor of “Institutional Racism”(TM) It deserves to be on his tombstone.
Meanwhile the police are manacled by m’learned friend McPhersons legacy. There are days you wish for the return of the death penalty: for lawyers
Who led the enquiry into the Strangeways riots? That was the other tipping point after which prisoners were put in change of the prisons rather than the prison staff.
McPherson must go down as he idiot of the century.
I think he got spooked by the Guardian before the Inquiry running stories that he was a racist. Amped up by the BBC of course.
The BBC coverage has focused heavily on the apparent ‘anger’ in the community over the shooting of a local man.
The logical conclusion being that the Police ought to reign in their anti-gun crime efforts so as not the ‘anger’ the community.
So BBC, how does that square with this recent story?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12949242
‘Stockwell shooting: Mother of victim ’empty inside’.
‘Anthony McCalla, 19, has been remanded in custody charged with attempting to murder Thusha and Roshan Selvakumar’.
By the way, the authorities won’t issue a photo of that young man. Perhaps he’s a Scot?