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  1. noggin says:
    November 11, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    ps.
    “Met said there had been “no reported disorder between opposing groups” so far on friday??
    opposing groups? who…the police?……the muslim facists are disbanded?
    the league were in the pub?.

    i wonder if steven lennon, will be invited to tear paxo another on newsnight?

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  2. John Horne Tooke says:
    November 11, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    I see Rachel  “bbc tv news ed, travel junkie, msc research on responsible travel & social media” Kennedy is interested in Italian Politics.
    http://twitter.com/#!/rachelkennedy84

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  3. Teddy Bear says:
    November 11, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    The comment this week by Labour MP Tom Watson calling James Murdoch a ‘Mafia Boss’ over the hacking scandal, was in my opinion, puerile and insulting – and does more to highlight the poor mindset of the accuser than demean the accused. But the BBC see this as an opportunity to not only carry on their attack against the Murdoch regime, but also to boost one of their beloved Labourites, regardless of merit.  
     
    So tomorrow they plan to profile this Labour imbecile, presenting him as a ‘hero for his role in taking on the Murdoch empire’, which is a load of rubbish. But lack of accuracy and good judgement has never troubled the BBC before in the pursuit of their own agenda.      
    Makes me wonder if Watson hasn’t made the comment he did knowing what the BBC would do.
     
    Profile  
    The Labour MP Tom Watson compared James Murdoch with “a Mafia boss” while questioning him about phone hacking this week. He has lead the charge in Parliament against News International, and has been forensically campaigning on phone hacking for years.  
     
    While many of his Labour colleagues regard him as a hero for his role in taking on the Murdoch empire, Watson wasn’t always so popular. A close ally of Gordon Brown, he called for Tony Blair to resign in 2006, although he denied Brown conspired with him to bring down the Prime Minister.  
     
    Edward Stourton profiles the pioneer blogger and populist campaigner, who is unafraid to take on powerful figures in and out of politics.

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    • Millie Tant says:
      November 11, 2011 at 8:22 pm

      He has lead… 🙁

      So much for the world’s greatest broadcaster.

      Led, Beeboids.

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    • As I See It says:
      November 11, 2011 at 8:31 pm

      “…Mafia Boss…”  – A cynical sound bite calculated for the consumption of the media most sympathetic to the leftist attack on the Murdoch Empire, namely, the BBC Empire.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        November 11, 2011 at 9:47 pm

        I’m still wondering if this could be taken to mean that any hearing is biased and has a pre-determined outcome.  The MP on the committe has openly stated his view, so isn’t the fix in, and it’s all a charade?  Am I missing something?

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        • Grant says:
          November 11, 2011 at 10:17 pm

          Watson,  a  “hero”  who hides behind parliamentary priviledge.
          Jumped up, third rate , little pipsqueak. 

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      • Reed says:
        November 12, 2011 at 1:30 am

        You’re right to call that soundbite ‘calculated’. His deliberate pause before the moment came to deliver his killer line was obvious for all to hear. What a shame it backfired. An audible groan went round the chamber as people tut-tutted it’s inappropriateness.

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  4. Martin says:
    November 11, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    I noticed that on the BBC news they gave us a sound bite of the retard in charge of the Liebore party. Red Ed was lecturing Cameron that someone needs to get the EU together and read them the riot act.

    Well Red Ed and BBC perhaps you hadn’t noticed but Cameron has been telling them off but it hasn’t really done a lot of good. Merkel and Sarkozy just keep telling Cameron to piss off and stop annoying them (we’re not in the Euro in case Red Ed hadn’t noticed) and that they keep having meetings every 5 minutes but still can’t make a decision.

    Note that Cameron and Osborne have been saying for weeks now that the ECB has to step in and bail these losers out. Of course Red Ed and Ed Genitals have been attacking Cameron and Osborne via the BBC, yet there is nothing we can do if Merkel wants to be a stubborn old bag.

    Perhaps Red Ed is going to suggest that we get the one eyed loon from Fife out to save the world again ***laughs out loud***

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      November 11, 2011 at 9:49 pm

      That’s all going to be fodder for the “See?  Britain should be in the Euro after all!” camp.

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  5. Martin says:
    November 11, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Was in London today, odd thing I noticed was the lack of people wearing a poppy, hardly saw one, no ‘obvious Muslim’ I saw had one on. I actually felt a bit out of place.

    My local town you see a lot of them, guess London is now more like a third world shit hole.

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    • Umbongo says:
      November 11, 2011 at 10:54 pm

      “. . . I actually felt a bit out of place . . . “

      You and me both – and I live here!

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      November 12, 2011 at 12:17 am

      So one might consider the BBC’s move to Salford an example of “white flight”?

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  6. George R says:
    November 11, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    A first-hand report by non-MSM eye-witness on police political prejudice against EDL:-  
     
    “EDL and MfE paying their respects peacfully – 170 arrests to prevent a ‘possible’ breach of the peace.”  
     
     
    http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/38966

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    • George R says:
      November 11, 2011 at 10:50 pm

      It should be remembered that MSM’s NUJ membership is bound by trade union policy to oppose the English Defence League; and, of course, this NUJ policy stance politically colours all MSM (inc INBBC) ‘reports’ relating to EDL.

      In denigrating the EDL, MSM ‘s NUJ members can be pleased that they are:

      1.) supporting Islam;

      2.) opposing EDL’s vocal and written opposition to Islamic jihad and sharia.

      http://englishdefenceleague.org/

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  7. Daniel Smith says:
    November 11, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    “France’s notoriously conservative press”. A very odd (and opinionated) turn of phrase used just now in the BBC’s ‘impartial’ coverage of the Euro meltdown. I’m not aware if France’s press is especially conservative or not (although I’m sure it appears so at the BBC) but in what sense does that make it notorious?
    One wonders if the BBC will be using the expression “America’s (or Briatin’s) notoriously liberal media” any time soon.

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    • Grant says:
      November 12, 2011 at 7:13 am

      Daniel,
      I noticed that too with some surprise. I thought France had quite a strong Left-wing press. But, what a giveaway of the BBC’s mindset.
      “The BBC, Britain’s notoriously Left-wing broadcaster”. 

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    • Millie Tant says:
      November 12, 2011 at 12:32 pm

      They can’t have been thinking of Liberation, the notoriously radical spawn of 1968 run by Sartre and his friends.  Even now, if it weren’t for The Guardian and the matter of language, it would be the paper of choice in Beeboidland.

      And right on cue, what is the top news story in today’s online Liberation?

      Haha…[Its main heading is Society, natch, not something important like the economy]: a communist mayor symbolically “marries” a couple of homosexuals  – “un acte militant pour la légalisation du mariage homosexuel”:  http://www.liberation.fr/

      Next story: the authorities trying to get the Occupy protest camps closed, following four deaths in America. …

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  8. John Horne Tooke says:
    November 12, 2011 at 1:31 am

    The BBc must be that far left that the Morning Star might just qualify for centre left.

     “France has three major national quality dailies, Le Monde, Le Figaro, and Libération; between them, they target the same kind of educated reader market as serious quality papers  – the so-called “broadsheets” – such as the Times, the Independent and the Guardian in the UK, or the New York Times, the Boston Globe or the San Francisco Chronicle in the USA. There is however one major difference; French quality dailies are on the whole more intellectual and more left of centre than their counterparts in the main English-speaking countries.”
    http://about-france.com/french-newspapers.htm

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  9. Jeff Waters says:
    November 12, 2011 at 10:05 am

    The BBC’s headline this morning:
    Wounded soldiers’ ‘jobs at risk’

    Why is this headline news?

    Austerity cuts have to be made.  Some will fall on nurses, some on police officers, and some on wounded soldiers.

    I have to question why the BBC has made this its main headline, particularly as it comes a day after Armistace Day.

    It smacks of anti-austerity propaganda; the subtext seems to be:

    ‘These brave soldiers were injured defending our freedoms, and the Nasty Party repays them for their sarcrifice by throwing them on the scraphead’.

    Jeff

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  10. sue says:
    November 12, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Did anyone watch the channel 4 thing about paralympic hopefuls in Gaza?
    I really hope they do well, because obviously things like this take their minds off the old Jihad.
    But what about the presenter? I know those Jarvis Cocker specs are all the rage. But they don’t suit everybody, do they?
    Aidan Hartley was his name, blaming Israel was his game.

    Everything was Israel’s fault. He didn’t seem to notice the significance of his own words. Even though he said quite clearly that drone attacks came after rocket attacks from Gaza, which were fired near boys playing in the street, even though he knew one boy’s mother had been treated for cancer in an Israeli hospital, he still complained that he wasn’t allowed to be by her side when she died, and even though he knew the women’s team was about to travel to Qatar he still said Gaza was a prison from which no-one could get out.
    They even seemed to be blaming Israel indirectly for the fact that there were so many disabilities in Gaza through intermarrying – because of poverty.
    His gurning performance was annoying enough,  but his narrow-minded attitude completely eliminated the positive and accentuated the negative, and didn’t mess with Mr. In-between.
    That’s channel four for you. Just like the BBC.

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  11. Jeff Waters says:
    November 12, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Incredibly, Newsnight’s Paul Mason seems to be in favour of the UK joining the Euro.

    From http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/nov/11/the-conversation-eurozone-crisis:

    SR: Could Britain join the euro?

    PM: I think there’s a strong argument for a rebalanced Britain to join a northern bloc, but there’s an even stronger argument for Scotland to join it.

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