283 Responses to OPEN THREAD

  1. David Preiser (USA) says:

    BBC News Channel showing Herman Cain’s moment of unintentional silence about Libya, followed by giggles and jokes by the Beeboids in the studio.  I guess The Obamessiah has never had one of those moments where “politicans wish the ground would swallow them up” (as the female Beeboid put it), as the only one of His gaffes the BBC has ever shown was back when He made an unfortunate remark about His lousy bowling being worthy of the Special Olympics, and had to apologize for it on Jay Leno.  
     
    The BBC has kept every single other gaffe from you.  Hypocrites.

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  2. George R says:

    Meanwhile in Brumistan, Islam Not BBC (INBBC) has this:

    “Four arrested in anti-terror operation in Birmingham”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15735029

    Does this have anything to do with Muslims or with jihad?

    Nah, INBBC would have told us, wouldn’t it?

    ‘Jihadwatch’:

    UK: Four misunderstanders of Islam arrested in jihad terror raids

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  3. David Preiser (USA) says:

    A Seattle Occupier exercises his freedom of expression in a public square – by taking a dump:

    There’s a metaphor in there somewhere.

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  4. My Site (click to edit) says:

    IainDale Iain Dale Just did a really enjoyable interview with Nick Robinson. I think he may soon join the Twittersphere. Which is nice. #returnoftheFastShow
    Cool. Now Mr. ‘closed for comments, bunkerbound, ‘it’s in his eyes he’s lying’ BBC Political Editor can now also not respond and block a bunch more folk who may feel his biased ‘souyrces close to Ed say’ tripe is a smidge off remit.

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  5. George R says:

    There is only ‘white’ racism for BBC-NUJ?  
     
     
    In reporting the Lawrence case (on e.g BBC-NUJ ‘PM’), if the assailants were described as ‘white racists’ once, they were so described half a dozen times.  
     
    Where are the BBC-NUJ reports of e.g. ‘black racist’ attacks on whites elsewhere?  
     
    Caucasophobia — the Accepted Racism

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    • Martin says:

      I really don’t understand the fuss over this one murder, there are many other murders that get nothing like the coverage, oh hang on they tend to involve white people.

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  6. Martin says:

    Is it my imagination or is the BBC now trying to kill the Theresa May border story?

    Looks like there is no smoking gun and the BBC just want to move on. Yvette Cooper made an utter arse of herself today as well.

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    • Grant says:

      Yvette Cooper sounded totally demented.
      I think the BBC will kill it now that Labour’s policies when in Government are being increasingly exposed.

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  7. David Preiser (USA) says:

    It turns out that The Obamessiah Administration pressured Solyndra to postpone layoffs due to financial difficulties until after the Nov. 2010 mid-term elections.  Crony Capitalism at its finest, with a healthy does of Warmist ideology taking precedence over reason and fiscal intelligence.

    This is from the Washington Post, which means the Beeboids know about it. That article is behind the paywall, so here’s a link to some of it quoted on the far-Left Democratic Undergound.

    BBC: ZZZZzzzzzzzz.  No excuse for this ongoing censorship.

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    • Reed says:

      What with that and the delaying of the Keystone XL pipeline decision until after the election, this President is beginning to look like a Brown-style ditherer, more concerned with calculated personal interest than that of the nation. Where’s the leadership?!?!

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Ugh, don’t get me started on the Keystone pipeline.  But He’s not dithering: He’s kicking it into the 2013 long grass out of sheer personal interest.  There’s no leadership because He was never a leader.  He’s a Community Organizer and a lecturer.  That’s it.

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  8. George R says:

    ISRAEL assists Kenya in fight against Somali jihadists

    (as should U.K and U.S):

    “Israel-Kenya deal to help fight Somalia’s al-Shabab”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15725632

    The reasons for non-assistance from U.K and U.S include:

    a.) for Cameron, not alienating what he hopes are Muslim Tory voters in UK;

    b.) for Obama, recognising which side his Muslim Kenyan father would have been on.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      c) The US already has troops in the region, only they’re in Uganda to help fight the….er…Christians.

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  9. Teddy Bear says:

    I know it was just a few days ago we discussed the matter of Tom Watson calling James Murdoch a ‘mafia boss’, and how it was probably a set up. First to give the BBC more ammunition to report on the matter, and to make Labour MP Watson appear like a real ‘hero’.

    There’s a picture below, see if you’d buy a second hand car off him. I know if I ever had to shake hands with him I’d be counting my fingers after. 

    Well if there was any doubt that they were scratching each others back, it’s surely dispelled now.

    There is nobody who has not been in a coma for the last few months, that couldn’t think the BBC have devoted most of their news broadcasts and commentary to the hacking affair, with the prime goal of eliminating the Murdoch’s from affecting their sway on the public. Pure personal agenda!

    Which makes this announcement by Watson, and response by the BBC, all the more ludicrous, but at least we here can understand the real purpose of this remark.

    Tom Watson attacks BBC’s Nick Robinson over phone hacking

    I’ve a feeling we’ll be seiing more of this dynamic duo, and similar tactics – scratching each others backs.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      In this case I think I agree with Watson.  Nick Robinson is notorious for kissing Downing St. ass in order to keep his insider status. This isn’t the first time Robinson missed – kept quiet about, really – a big story simply to protect his position.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        This is what I find ridiculous:
        “I would also have taken a pot shot at Lord Patten’s lugubrious speech justifying the BBC not being able to adequately investigate the phone hacking scandal.

        As if they didn’t cover it enough – and are still (over)doing so.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Covering isn’t the same thing as investigating.  It’s like what the BBC does in the US.  Covering and covering for, but precious little investigating, unless they’re sending Palast or someone to smear the Right.

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          • Teddy Bear says:

            I can’t believe for an instant that if the BBC had the chance to dig up dirt on Murdoch they wouldn’t have jumped at it. I’m not talking about individuals, or their personal motives for acting the way they did, but the corporation as a whole.

            What actual ‘investigation’ they could have done, I have no idea, but I cannot accept He also attacked Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust, who told the annual Society of Editors conference that the corporation could not pursue the story as vigorously as others because it would be construed as political bias. as a genuine grievance.

            The BBC were on a mission with this story, relentless in their demonization of Murdoch. Personally I don;t think for a moment they give a shit about hacking, or who was hurt by it. In their own way, they do far worse on a daily basis, which is why we spend the time we do researching and writing about it. It’s just that this story with Watson tries to make it appear as if the BBC didn’t do enough, even to the point of criticizing them. 

            To me, it would be the same as criticizing the BBC for not investigating their stories on Israel more, only to say that they didn’t portray Israel worse than they already do, because it would make them appear biased.

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      • Martin says:

        Certainly under the Nu Liebore years Toenails, Easton, Peston and Marr all sucked Bliar’s and Brown’s dicks on a daily basis.

        Marr, Peston in particular and Toenails have been cut back down to size, when was the last time Peston had a Government ‘exclusive’?

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  10. Manfred VR says:

    Why isn’t the BBC reporting what this gentleman has to say on Irish TV?



    Ireland’s Financial Expert Eddie Hobbs advising people to get out of the Euro as it is going to collapse.

    Scary, but true…….

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  11. Jeff Waters says:

    ‘Her policies divided the country – seeing a boom in the service sector and home ownership but a decline in manufacturing and soaring unemployment.’
    From http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15735734

    There you have it – Mrs Thatcher’s years as Prime Minister summed up in a single sentence…

    Jeff

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  12. pounce_uk says:

    The bBC, its daily anti-Israeli hatefest and half the story.
    Palestinian ‘freedom riders’ board settlers’ bus
    Israeli police have detained six Palestinians dubbed West Bank Freedom Riders who boarded a Jerusalem-bound bus used by Jewish settlers. The activists say they drew inspiration from 1960s US civil rights demonstrators who campaigned under the same name against segregated buses.
     
    So reading the above did you get the impression that Pals cannot travel on bus’s in Israel?
    Here is what the bbC left out but AP didn’t:
    In the West Bank — home to 2.5 million Palestinians and some 300,000 Jewish settlers — the two sides usually use different bus systems.
    Although no specific rule prevents Palestinians from riding the “Israeli” buses — they are generally not allowed into the Jewish settlements these buses serve, and therefore would have to get off each time the bus entered a settlement. The Palestinians also need permits to enter Jerusalem, which the buses also serve.
    Tuesday’s protest began at a stop near the Jewish settlement of Migron The first three “number 148” buses — apparently aware of the planned provocation — sped by. But the fourth pulled up.
    The Palestinians paid their fares and boarded, as reporters jostled to board. After an uneventful 20-minute ride, the bus stopped at the Hizme checkpoint on Jerusalem’s outskirts, and Israeli police boarded, demanded Jerusalem entry permit. Lacking the permits, the Palestinians refused to get off.
    “I am not going to obey your discriminatory law,” Dwaik told the policeman, speaking Arabic. “So you are detained,” the policeman said, also in Arabic.”Fine. I am not moving.”
    About an hour later the six Palestinians were detained, dragged off the bus and taken away in a police car to a nearby station — in Jerusalem, having somewhat reached their destination.

    So, actually there is nothing stopping Pals from using the same buses as Jews. They just can’t Israeli areas. (Note I am totally against the idea of settlements) However and a big however, is why are the Jews painted as the bad guys for asking for permits, when in Saudi Arabia you cannot visit Mecca if you aren’t a Muslim. Same subject different relgion. lets not forget that in nearly every Islamic country in the region non-Muslims have been forced to leave simply becasue Muslims have a habit of killing them. Now look at a map and compare how small Israel is compared to the rest of the MIddle-EAst. A Middle-EAst I should add which is…100% Islamic.

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  13. pounce_uk says:

    While the bBC promotes a story about how 6 pals went on a busride after paying their fare in which to highlight how nasty the jews are. They remain silent on 2 rockets which were launched into Israel from Gaza, one of which hit a Kindergarden School. I quote:  
    JERUSALEM (AP) – Israeli police say Palestinian militants have fired two rockets at Israel’s south and one hit a kindergarten.The kindergarten was empty at the time of the rocket strike, which destroyed a storage shed next to the building. A second rocket landed in an open area nearby.  
     
    Gee I wonder why the bBC didn’t mention the above incident?

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    • Grant says:

      We are all used to it by now , but it is still disgraceful that the BBC do not report this. What is their excuse ? It happens so
       often,  it is not news ?

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    • deegee says:

      At the risk of being repetitive Israeli police almost certainly didn’t use the word ‘militant’. The brief report on the police website (Hebrew) only says two rockets fell. Passive voice is the standard in formal Hebrew so nothing should be read into its use.

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  14. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The Telegraph has a new interactive feature they’re calling “Vote Match“.  It’s about the Republican candidates and policy ideas. There are a series of questions about various issues, and your choices are then matched up somehow with the candidates’ positions, yielding a result telling you which candidate you most agree with.

    I have quibbles about the wording of a couple of questions, as well as about a couple of choices offered, but overall it’s an interesting exercise.

    My results are unsurprising: 53% Herman Cain (best match), 51% Rick Perry.  If there were questions about Evolution vs. Creationism or the separation of Church and State, my Perry score would probably have been lower.

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    • Span Ows says:

      sounds like you selected those you would vote for. I got Michelle Bacmann and Herman Cain BUT when I did a “select all” I found a 70% agreement with Mitt Romney! =-O

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  15. George R says:

    Is this BBC-NUJ’s  BBC  CBBC of the near future?  
     
     
    http://web.gbtv.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=19990237&topic_id=&tcid=vpp_copy_19990237&v=3
     
     
     
    (courtesy ‘Glenn Beck TV’).

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  16. Jeff Waters says:

    Just sent the following email to the BBC Trust:

    Only a tiny proportion of complaints made to the BBC are escalated (source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-14120960)

    This may partly be due to the fact that the public are not aware that they can escalate their complaints, or how to go about it.  It would therefore be worth informing them, as a matter of course, of their options should they be dissatisfied with the BBC’s initial response to their feedback.

    The low figure may also be due to the public being left in limbo about complaints they have made.  Often, I don’t receive any response to the feedback I submit.  And when I asked recently for an update regarding complaints made for which I had not received any reply, I was told that the BBC are unwilling to accede to such requests:

    ‘Please note that we aim to deal with complaints in line with the BBC’s published procedures – it is not our practice to issue updates on their progress within the system.’

    If people have no way of knowing what the outcome was of their complaint (or whether an outcome has been arrived at), it is less likely that they will escalate the matter.

    When I submitted some feedback about a week ago, I received an automated acknowledgement by email.  However, this service has since been discontinued, making it harder for people to enquire about complaints for which they have not received a reply.  Could I please ask why, and might I suggest that it be reinstated?

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Regards

    Jeff

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  17. Cassandra King says:

    While the BBC can and does squander airtime making highly selective fun of its ideological enemies like Herman Cain here is a story that the BBC have not yet found the time to air or even acknowledge. Its a scandal that attacks the twin foundations of the BBC, its love of US democrats and its love of the eco green industry fraud. Here is the story brought to you by the one MSM outlet covering it, the network the left love to hate. The BBC are merely repeating the climategate scandal, by ignoring it they hope it will go away? Not a chance of that happening.

    November 15, 2011
    Hill Probe Focuses on Energy Secretary’s Solyndra Emails <img src=”http://a57.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/190/107/Solyndra-Headquarters.jpg”/>

    Roughly 200 of Energy Secretary Steven Chu’s e-mails were delivered to congressional investigators Tuesday morning for inspection behind closed doors, Fox News has learned, in advance of a hearing on Thursday where the secretary will face sharp questioning by lawmakers over the burgeoning Solyndra scandal.

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  18. Martin says:

    Beeboids can’t help themselves can they? Professional journalists my arse.

    Some silly female beeboid was just on the news doing a piece about two thugs getting themselves shot by the Police whilst taking part in an armed robbery.

    Note that the Police had been cleared of any wrong doing, but the thick beeboid couldn’t help herself taking about how the Police “gunned the two men down”

    Gunning someone down implies to me an execution or murder, this was not the case, why do beeboids do it?

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    • cjhartnett says:

      I saw something about this story on local BBC South earlier.
      In times past, you`d have had good regional journalists that were content to just give us the news locally and then be happy to live amongst us. True local accountability.
      Not now…all sights are on sucking up to London. They hope to get to London (not yet Salford unless its in Zone 2), so we get the same multiculti crap.
      Police shoot some armed robbers in Chandlers Ford…who cares?
      Well the thugs families obviously do…so therefore must the BBC.
      The BBC can`t have the police shooting the black armed robber from London…no sirree..”`twas a cry for help, but the Feds wasted our homie”…
      Let`s hope the Newall Green Posse up near Salford think that the BBC are resigned to an “appropriate level of robbery and financial liberation” as they bring their salaries home in wheelbarrows.
      I for one would not leap to judgement about the victims of the Tory Fascist Junta…

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  19. George R says:

    As BBC Gives Up England Why Pay the Licence Fee?

    http://www.iaindale.com/posts/as-bbc-gives-up-england-why-pay-the-licence-fee  
     
     
    As BBC Gives Up UK for EU, Why Pay the Licence Fee?


    As BBC Gives Up ethnic Brits in preference for immigrants, Why Pay the Licence Fee?

    As BBC Gives Up Impartiality for Political Bias, Why Pay the Licence Fee?

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  20. Martin says:

    I didn’t see all of fatty Mardel’s report from New York but the bit I saw he never mentioned the crimes involving the protesters (rape, drugs violence etc.)

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Of course Mardell won’t be honest about what went on there. He supports the Occupiers 100%.  Just look at his latest blog post.

      Another man warns the police: “We’re on for a rumble.”

      But they are very much in the minority and there are a large number of people carrying banners urging non-violence.

      Yeah, right.  So what does Mardell do next?  He looks for someone to support the Narrative.

      What really interested me was talking to some construction workers who are working on the World Trade Center site.

      They all tell me the same thing: first, they are glad the protesters have gone and the space where they used to eat their sandwiches or smoke a cigarette is now clean again. They say the protesters were “riff-raff”.

      But to a man and woman, they seem almost amazed when I ask about their cause.

      “Of course they’re right. The banks got the bail out, didn’t they? We didn’t.”

      News flash: Union workers are angry about bank bailouts.  Mark Mardell is an extremely dishonest broadcaster.  Funny how – just like Trevelyan – he couldn’t find a moment to speak with the local businesses who have lost money because of the Occupiers.

      These Union workers are just in the wrong union.  The President bailed out the auto workers when He bailed out GM and Chrysler.  He also tried to bail out more of them when He sued Boeing for trying to build a plant in a non-union state.  Tools.

      The BBC is the publicity wing of the Occupy movement.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Here’s the link to Mardell’s propaganda piece.  No mention at all of the rapes or defecation or violence or deaths.  Here’s how he describes the apples of his eye:

      “….a protest against corporate greed an inequality, that started here and went global. To the authorities, it had become insanitary, a health hazard.”

      What a liar. What loaded, partisan vocabulary. What massive dishonesty. Just listen to it and tell me Mardell doesn’t spit out those last words with a bit of contempt.

      “Is it really having any impact on America?”

      He asks blue collar union workers for the answer.  Delivering Quality First.  LOL.

      The judge ruled that they had the right to protest, but not the right to occupy the place indefinitely.  In other words, their rights end where the rights of others begin.  Mardell and the rest of the BBC don’t understand it.  They agree with the Occupiers that their rights supercede those of everyone else, because their cause is just.

      Come on defenders of the indefensible, go running to mommy and tell the Beeboids I’m calling them liars and propagandists.

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      • Grant says:

        “Corporate greed ” reminds me of another well-funded organisation which is not a bank.

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  21. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here’s another one for either the “Obamessiah Gaffes the BBC Won’t Tell You About” or the “First Post-American President” file:  
     
    The President was speaking at the 19th Annual Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit on Sunday.  In Hawaii.  (@35:17 in, link should load right there)
     
    …”when I meet with world leaders, what’s striking, whether it’s in Europe or here in Asia…”  
     
    He’s reading off the teleprompter, FFS.  Neither the smartest man in the room nor His genius speech writers know FA about geography.  It’s in the title of the event.  Asia Pacific
    Worse still: He was born in Hawaii. After the whole Birther deal, He should know where it is.  And if He was born in the United States, He shouldn’t be referring to it as Asia, anyway.

    Must be another one of those nuances of His “finely-tuned brain”

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    • Grant says:

      David P,
      Amazing !
      Obama’s biggest gaffe has being trying to boss the Chinese around. If he knew anything about Chinese history, culture and psychology he would realise he is making them even less sympathetic to the USA’s plight.
      He truly is like a spoilt little teenage boy out of his depth in the real world.  

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  22. Reed says:

    Andrew Neil giving Ed Bollox a good grilling, proving that he’s really the only decent news/politics assett at the BBC :      
         
    http://labourlist.org/2011/11/balls-vs-brillo-on-the-economy/      
    I notice Guido gets in there with the first comment for some premier trolling @LabourLost.

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    • Reed says:

      …meaning of course that Neil is the asset, not Balls. Although, considering the amount of air time they give to Balls, I’m sure they regard HIM as the real asset!!!! 😉

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    • Grant says:

      Reed,
      Great clip ! 
      Andrew Neil really exposes Balls as an  ignorant, lying twat. I love Balls’ comment that Brillo is talking nonsense about economics. You couldn’t make it up  ! 
      Early in the clip, Jo Coburn’s face is a picture. She looks as if she is about to commit suicide ! 

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      • Jeff Waters says:

        Balls has economics qualifications from Oxford and Harvard.  He must know deep down that the answer to Britain’s economic woes is not his 5 point plan, combined with more spending…

        Jeff

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  23. 1327 says:

    Recently I have been unfortunate enough to catch a few episodes of the “One Show” on BBC1 at 7pm. I think the aim of the show is to provide entertainment and some news in the style of the old Nationwide show but what you actually get is some of the worst bias and propaganda you will see anywhere.

    Anyway last nights show had a segment with Edwina Curry following up some comment she had made about there being no one starving in the UK (which I agree with). The One Show wanted to take her out into the “real world” and show her how selected benefits claimants lived. Predictably first on was an elderly Nun working for a charity telling Edwina how this was all wrong. At this point I could take no more and turned the idiot box off.

     I could have a moan about Beeb bias but all of us here know the score. The question is why do Tories like Edwina agree to appear on these shows ? They must know the Beebs game and the fact they are walking into a nicely crafted trap so why do they do it ? 

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      The question is why do Tories like Edwina agree to appear on these shows ? 

      Carefully selected fame addicts.

      Like every numptie seduced onto HIGNFY. 

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    • Grant says:

      The only people starving in the UK are the elderly in hospitals in and care homes.

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    • Martin says:

      She once worked for the BBC, she’s one of these Tories that like sto be tortured by the left.

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  24. As I See It says:

    Cor….trendy supply teacher Mr Nicky Campbell breathlessly interupts our 4th Form debate – on the subject of a ban on smoking in private cars – to bring us the news that has got all of the staff room buzzing….yoof unemployment has hit one mil….!

    No mention of economic migrants
    (legal or illegal)

    No mention of minimum wage
    Four pounds an hour! Hey Abdul we don’t get that a week! And as Amazulu told us back in Mrs Ts days ‘You can’t get no giro working in a bar in Cairo

    No mention of the employability of the products of UK education
    Well they are riot prone, they are clued up on their rights and entitlements.

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  25. noggin says:

    “‘hip hop’ diplomacy in Pakistan,”
    Reuters

    par excellance perveyors of good wholesome US values PUBLIC ENEMY????…..are schooling jihadis to be…
    er well “jumping??” jihadis in Pakistan…..

    you couldn t make it up

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  26. Martin says:

    Sky are reporting that the hacking file was kept from James Murdoch, funny the BBC don’t seem to report this!!!

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      What I am gathering is, from broadcast to print to online, the Graun/BBC/Labour troika have indluged in a basically substance free misinformation and gossip campaign across a variety of topics to suit their own corrupt or petty weasel ends, most if not all of which have been now shown to be widly exaggerated if not baseless… and are going to simply ‘move on’ now.

      If that doesn’t deserve a commission ‘asking questions’, I don’t know what does.

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  27. Number 7 says:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9640000/9640852.stm

    Will they be complaining about this site?

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:

      Well, they could… and then for fun we could all chip in with the kind of road to nowhere nonsense ‘looking at’ it all before deciding we got it about right, so take a hike.

      One small differecne being, we won’t be charging them, or the licence fee payer for such a farce.

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  28. Jeff Waters says:

    Any chance of a new open thread please?  This one is getting pretty full.  🙂

    Thanks

    Jeff

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  29. Martin says:

    Radio 5 just ran a piece with a segment by Daniel Hannan MEP.

    Needless to say there was BBC ‘sniggering’ all round at the mention of his name.

    Pathetic.

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  30. Martin says:

    The BBC tell us with a straight face that Italy will unveil their new Government today, full of Techocrats.

    No BBC it’s full of unelected losers.

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