35 Responses to AT THE GOING DOWN OF THE SUN…

  1. john in cheshire says:
    February 11, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    Remind me, has the bbc reported on any of the malpractices carried out at the Mirror Group or the Guardian Media Group?

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  2. Dez says:
    February 11, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    “BBC seem pretty happy about this news!”  

    “Happy” why exactly? Because they reported it? [boggle] 

    Sort of like those other bastions of the ‘left-wing establishment‘:  

    The Telegraph  
    Rupert Murdoch flies into London as five Sun journalists arrested over alleged corruption  

    The Mail  
    ‘I will not close The Sun’: Rupert Murdoch vows after five MORE journalists are arrested in dawn raids by detectives investigating dodgy payments to police  

    The Express  
    MURDOCH EXPECTED IN WAKE OF ARRESTS  

    The Star  
    MURDOCH EXPECTED IN WAKE OF ARRESTS

    Although, strangely no mention in “The Sun“. Now there’s a news source you can really trust.  

    David Dunce strikes again! ;p  

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    • Span Ows says:
      February 12, 2012 at 1:37 pm

      Tell me Dez Dunce, did David say no-one else reported it? If not I fail to see the point of your post.

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      • David Vance says:
        February 12, 2012 at 1:41 pm

        Poor Dez. He can be relied upon to miss the point. 

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        • Scott M says:
          February 12, 2012 at 3:49 pm

          So amusing, something like that coming from David Vance.

          Dez is right – there is nothing in the BBC’s report to support Vance’s claim that the BBC “seem pretty happy”. But then, he’s not exactly one to worry about facts when there’s some BBC bashing to be had… 

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  3. The Cattle Prod of Destiny says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:11 am

    I for one won’t shed one tear if every NI outlet shut down. 

    Murdoch has made many statements about how much he despises the UK, especially the English and he has spent many years actively destroying our culture and institutions.  The world will be a better place when he is no longer in it.

    NI is a force for evil, it shouldn’t be lamented.

    As to the BBC they are tilting at windmills. NI is wedded to dead technology.  It is the internet that will lead opinion in the future not the dead tree press.

    They all deserve to burn.

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  4. cjhartnett says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:16 am

    Desperate stuff Dez!
    This seems to be a half-baked story as yet, but the BBC have been leading all their news bulletins all day with it.
    1. FIVE journalists….out of how many Dez?
    2. What of the police who took the money?..how many, when, where and why?
    3. Do you really think that the BBC and Guardian won`t be coming a cropper before too long…same cesspit, and-given the Dowler duplicity-I`d not be too gullible about what the LeftLib Alliance are saying just yet.
    I`ve no time for the Sun myself…but the BBC are riddled with dodgy types that just want a monopoly of virtue for themselves!
    You come across as a bit of a dupe Dez, if truth be told….

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  5. Demon1001 says:
    February 12, 2012 at 9:52 am

    Don’t buy the Sun, never have.  Nasty little rag, just like the Mirror.  Although the Mirror seems forever stuck in its blinkered little Lefty Hell-hole the Sun flips and Flops like a Milliband policy initiative.

    However, we all know that the Guardian and Mirror were every bit as involved with phone-hacking.  We also know that they have used illicitly obtained information (think Wikileaks etc.) so one starts to wonder why this enquiry seems to only be going one direction.  Yes, Piers Morgan was asked questions but that seemed to fizzle out very quickly.

    I remember the BBC using illicitly obtained audio recordings (even of that final meeting of the NOTW where Rebekah Thingy closed it down).  These are just as illegal as phone-tapping as far as I am aware.   

    So why aren’t the organs of the left being also investigated?  Why isn’t the Director General of the BBC in the dock answering questions?  Why is the Guardian still allowed to function without being investigated by the enquiry – especially that terrible made-up story about the Millie Dowler messages?  Why isn’t Piers Morgan extradited and arrested? 

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  6. Scott M says:
    February 12, 2012 at 12:48 pm

    “However, we all know that the Guardian and Mirror were every bit as involved with phone-hacking.”

    Oh, “we all know” do we?

    Surely you mean “we on this blog tell each other, and talk ourselves into believing it because we’re too dense, and too prejudiced, to keep our minds open”…

    (And before one of Biased BBC’s more intellectually unblessed commenters pipes up, I know David Leigh has said he hacked into an arms dealer’s phone once. Anybody who equates that with systematic and endemic hacking of crime victims, celebrities and pretty much anyone a newspaper didn’t like much would be even more stupid than B-BBC’s usual low standards…)

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    • Span Ows says:
      February 12, 2012 at 1:35 pm

      yes, we know:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Motorman_(ICO_investigation)

      Guido did a handy graph so even dullards get the picture.

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      • Scott M says:
        February 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

        And Operation Motorman is different from phone hacking. All papers implicated in the OM report have questions to answer – not least the Daily Mail, which was by far and away the largest and most frequent client of Whittamore’s.

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    • Span Ows says:
      February 12, 2012 at 1:45 pm

      How well do you know David Leigh Scott?

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2006/dec/04/mondaymediasection

      “There is certainly a voyeuristic thrill in hearing another person’s private messages.”


      “And unlike the News of the World, I was not paying a private detective to routinely help me with circulation-boosting snippets. That is my defence, when I try to explain newspaper methods to my current university journalism students, and some of whom are rather shocked. There are other techniques I have used, along with the rest of Fleet Street.”

      Hacking is hacking (even though none of this, even NOTW, is real hacking but that is what we now have to call it)

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      • Scott M says:
        February 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

        Like I said, anybody who equates that with systematic and endemic hacking of crime victims, celebrities and pretty much anyone a newspaper didn’t like much would be even more stupid than B-BBC’s usual low standards.

        Thanks for reinforcing the point.

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        • ltwf1964 says:
          February 12, 2012 at 4:10 pm

          for a place with such “low standards” trolling idiots like you just can’t stay away

          bit like your personal life maybe…..

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        • Span Ows says:
          February 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

          LOL, Scott, a pompous hypocrite? Surely not…the man admits the same crime and you say there are no similarities; lefty good rightie bad: all that is reinforced is your own vacuousness. 

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        • Demon1001 says:
          February 12, 2012 at 7:46 pm

          My word, we are getting close to home here judging by the number of Defenders of the Indefensible all out at the same time.  Scotty, Dezparate, are you now frightened that your beloved organs of left-wing lies and propaganda may also be eventually held to account in the same way as NI? 

          I hope you are right to worry, because if we can have a level playing field, including the de-politicising of the BBC, it would suit all those who believe in decency and humanity.  You wouldn’t like to have your side’s policies held up to the same scrutiny as is those of your enemies.

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  7. Roland Deschain says:
    February 12, 2012 at 2:29 pm

    Can’t say I saw any bias in the BBC reports I watched.  What worries me is the apparent witch hunt against the Sun (which I’ve never bought, and never will) when no-one can seriously think it was the only one carrying out these actions.

    Remember, no-one except left-wing politicians and celebrities with an axe to grind against Murdoch gave a damn about it all until it was thought they may have got into Milly Dowler’s phone and deleted messages.  That it subsequently turned out there was no proof it was the journalists who deleted the messages (as far as I recall) seems to have been quietly put on the back shelf in a fit of moral righteousness.

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  8. London Calling says:
    February 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    Time Murdoch sued the Guardian and bankrupted its owners for effectively shutting down the NOTW with its Milly Dowler falsehoods. In the best Hammer Horror tradition, drive a stake through the black heart of The Guardian, and watch all the bBC news staffers clutch their chests and start foaming at the mouth.

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    • Span Ows says:
      February 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm

      …that would be the Milly falsehoods by Guardian investigations editor David Leigh, you know, the one Scott thinks should be able to hack and lie and lawbreak to his heart’s content.  

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  9. cjhartnett says:
    February 12, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Like Demon above, I too have never bought a Sun paper before.
    Yet I`m told dear Rupert is visiting us all soon and I for one will happily buy one on that day-as long as I know the route he will be taking into Wapping from Heathrow, so I can wave it in tribute to him.
    Reckon the BBC will send me a cameraman to report on this …after all they`ve used convicted bomb plotters and Johnny Marbles-and I don`t have a criminal record, so they could do worse-indeed they already have!

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  10. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    The only  ‘tabloid’ paper which the BBC-NUJ is positively interested in  is the Labour Party promoting ‘Daily Mirror’, whose Associate Editor, and Labour Party propagandist, Mr Kevin MAGUIRE, is forever on the BBC-NUJ.

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  11. London Calling says:
    February 12, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    I never read the News of the World, and never read the Sun. Yet millions do, and I endorse their right to buy a paper of their own choosing, and expect to be granted the same freedom. Just because I hate loathe and despise the Guardian does not mean white middle-class left wing pricks shouldn’t be allowed to buy it. The restriction of choice comes from the Left trying to bring down Murdoch, so they can have a monopoly of falsehood-reporting. The enjoyment of falsehoods and trivia are everyone’s human right, at their own expense. That just leaves the thorny issue of the telly-tax….

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  12. John Anderson says:
    February 12, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    News Corporation made bumper profits last year.   Murdoch will survive all the tawdry BBC and Guardian spleen.  And his family will survive him,  and still likely control the group. 

    The BBC will get its comeuppance.   It is indeed a fight for a free press.

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  13. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    The ‘Daily Mail, a competitor of ‘The Sun’ is concerned with the nature of the police action: –   
       
       
       
    “What next for the Sun? Rupert Murdoch to fly to London after five more senior journalists are held in investigation into corrupt payments to police officers.      
     
    Paper’s deputy editor, picture editor, former chief reporter and chief foreign correspondent arrested and bailed by police.  
     
    Twenty officers raid ONE of the men’s homes as News International seeks assurances over independence of 171 police assigned to investigate.    
     

     Current Sun editor ‘shocked’ by latest wave of arrests.  
     
     Rupert Murdoch forced will fly in to reassure staff he plans to continue owning and publishing the Sun.  
     
    Reporters at the paper said to be ‘stunned’ by arrests, with ‘unusual’ atmosphere in Sun newsroom today.    ”
       
       
       
       
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2099947/Rupert-Murdoch-fly-London-5-Sun-journalists-held.html#ixzz1mD7NOwM4  

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    • George R says:
      February 12, 2012 at 11:09 pm

      This article by Damian Thompson is a relevant re-read. It was written before the latest ‘Sun’ crisis:

      “The Left’s plot for Leveson

      You may have thought the Leveson inquiry was all about phone-hacking and the ethics of the gutter press. So did I, at first, and like everyone else I was appalled by some of the revelations. But the longer it goes on, the clearer it becomes that there is an unspoken understanding between liberal politicians, ‘ethically aware’ celebs and their allies in the BBC. These people want to eliminate the most effective opponent of Britain’s Left-wing establishment – the popular press. Without certain newspapers, outrageous acts of social engineering and taxpayer theft would go unreported. That’s what the likes of Chris Bryant want Leveson to deliver. I know it’s boring, but watch carefully.”

      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100136738/doreens-story-the-heart-rending-truth-about-lazy-cow-syndrome/

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  14. George R says:
    February 12, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    BBC, ‘Guardian’ and ‘Morning Star’ all have their political hatchets out: they want ‘The Sun’ closed down, and News International opposition to their political agenda ended.

    Will BBC-NUJ and ‘Guardian’-NUJ oppose police action against ‘Sun-NUJ? Or will they merely divert their political opposition against Murdoch?

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