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  1. Jeff Waters says:
    February 21, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    According to the BBC, ‘eurozone experts will permanently monitor Greece’s economic management’.

    Isn’t the purpose of these ‘experts’ to interfere rather than to monitor, as they’ll be telling the Greeks how to spend their own money?

    I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the Troika would be doing more than monitoring the situation.

    Anyone?

    Jeff

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    • Jeff Waters says:
      February 21, 2012 at 7:59 pm

      It seems I was right – according to the Telegraph:

      ‘In return for the new bailout, Greece must implement a savage austerity programme, accept an “enhanced and permanent” presence of EU officials supervising Greek finances and set up a blocked account with three months debt interest payments in it at any time.’

      The BBC need to learn the difference between monitoring and supervision…

      jeff

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      • jarwill101 says:
        February 21, 2012 at 8:53 pm

          I’ve just heard Bernard Jenkin, Tory MP for Harwich & N. Essex, speak with controlled anger & great understanding about the Euro crisis, on LBC Radio. He analysed the shambolic fantasy of the EU with laser-like precision, sparing no implicated politician, whatever their political hue. Even Ian Dale joined Jenkin in giving the Eurocrats a savaging. If I heard a discussion of this intellectual quality, & political standpoint, on the BBC then I’d check the calendar: the 12th of Never doesn’t come round too often.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 21, 2012 at 10:19 pm

      “тройка”

      “The word has been used to describe the supreme officials of communist states, consisting of the party leader, head of government, and head of state. This was true during periods where the positions were held by three different people. The most famous troika was the one that ruled briefly in the period immediately following Stalin’s death: Georgy Malenkov, Lavrentiy Beria, and Vyacheslav Molotov.”
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troika_%28triumvirate%29

      No coincidence that the term should come from Russia.

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  2. Martin says:
    February 21, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    I wonder if 2 Ed’s Steph will be rejoicing that the Euro is saved (again)? I hope so, then we can laugh again in 3 or 4 months when Greece finally goes belly up.

    Who is next Spain, Portugal or Italy?

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  3. As I See It says:
    February 21, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    Sky News leads 10 o’clock News with the top UK news story: the grooming trial.

    BBC equivalent goes with the shock breaking news that there’s yet another Greek bail out. Next item on BBC news is something about Tescos using slave labour.

    Agenda, what agenda?

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    • Jeff Waters says:
      February 21, 2012 at 10:25 pm

      I don’t see what the big objection is to the so-called slave labour:

      A.  There are plenty of mornings when I don’t feel like working, but I do it anyway, as otherwise I won’t get paid.  I don’t get something for nothing – Why should people on the dole?

      B.  These work placements can actually lead people into full-time employment.  According to Ian Duncan-Smith (writing in today’s Mail), it’s the case that:

      ’13 weeks after starting their placements, around 50 per cent of those taking part have either taken up permanent posts or have stopped claiming benefits’.

      and

      ‘Out of around 1,400 individuals who have taken part in the Work Experience placement at Tesco, more than 300 have been taken on in permanent roles with the supermarket’.

      C. Workfare brings in revenue for the DSS

      D.  Cheap labour helps British firms compete in the global economy.

      E.  If someone has been unemployed for a while, working could boost their confidence.

      So all in all, workfare benefits employers, the DSS and jobseekers.  The only losers are people who want to do nothing all day and live off the fat of the land…

      Jeff

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 21, 2012 at 10:41 pm

      So this is another “Tory” policy being attacked by all and sundry?

      “What’s not disputed is that the “jobs” would only last for up to six months, and again, £600m would only pay for one year’s worth of entrants.

      Labour told us: “Once people have been on a placement it’s more likely they will be able to move on to get permanent jobs elsewhere”, adding: “That’s why it needs to be seen alongside other measures in the plan.”
      http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-can-labour-save-the-economy/8510

      There is actually nothing “Tory” about it
      http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/politics/article-24014039-nick-clegg-announces-pound-1bn-scheme-to-tackle-youth-unemployment.do

      The BBC must attack the “Tories” with blinkered zeal.

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  4. Julio says:
    February 21, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Editors urged to help tackle online hate crime

    ‘News websites will be asked to do more to address potential hate crime, as part of plans for a more “integrated” English society.’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17118646

    The document linked to on the article is here

    http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/communities/pdf/2092103.pdf

    It really is worth a read to witness the lies and misrepresentations. For instance they seem to think that only 25 % of the population thinks that immigration is a serious problem. You certainly wouldn’t think from reading it that muslim terrorism or paedo pimping was a problem at all. According to the liberal filth the only problem is the EDL.

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  5. Martin says:
    February 21, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    How amusing the Tories have seen another sensible policy (the jobs for benefits) trashed by the onslaught of the BBC.

    How often do we see the same pattern off the BBC? It all kicked off last night with Newsnight, then today Radio 5 and BBC news hammered this policy.

    Now the Government have given way (and are rightly angry) and the smug BBC are trying to play all innocent.

    Score another one to the BBC.

    When will the Tories learn?

    Oh dear we’ve got some useless female Tory getting worked over by Paxman and only half heartedly attacks the BBC for the same scheme, Paxman of course just floats past it.

    GET STUCK IN YOU SILLY BITCH!!!

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 21, 2012 at 11:23 pm

      “When will the Tories learn?”

      Still in denial Martin. Camerons Party is not Tory. It is the Blairism Party. Conservatism died in this country when the old guard Tories voted for Christmas backed by the BBC propaganda unit.

      The last Conservative leader was Micheal Howard.

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      People who have principles and an ideology have no problem arguing their corner. If they are really passionate the message will get through Paxmans childish banter. The problem with members of the Blairism Party is that they have no idea what to say. They hear a few lines on what the policy is and try to repeat it on air.  They cannot tackle difficult questions because they have not anything more than a pointless and meaningless soundbite twirling around their empty heads.

      This is why the “tories” take all the flack from the BBC. The BBC think they are “Tories” and the “Tories” think the BBC will eventually treat them like their friends in Labour as soon as they shift just a bit more to the left of Red Ed.

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      • My Site (click to edit) says:
        February 22, 2012 at 10:02 am

        Hit the nail on the head there John!
        The ‘Tories’ are trying to appeal to the people who will hate them regardless.
        As you say, no belief or passion in their cause. This is why Tommy Robinson can go on Newsnight and destroy Paxman, but a media-savvy and trained MP sits there grinning like a retarded child as they walk in to every Bear trap laid out for them.

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    • dave s says:
      February 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm

      Gave up on Newsnight and watched Max Keiser on RT. He seems to have a low opinion of the BBC and in particular of Paul Mason and Paxman. If I read him right he thinks the BBC is there to do the bidding of the IMF, the banksters and the EU  oligarchs.
      An interesting viewpoint. Paul Mason as a stooge of the anti democratic EU politicians and  bankers! Surely not.
      But then I remembered the old phrase -follow the money- and maybe Keiser is on to something.
      All that “licence tax ” money and the big big salaries they beeboids reward themselves with. Wouldn’t want that to end would they?

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  6. Martin says:
    February 21, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    There’s a bloke called Chris Brace on Newsnight ‘claiming’ he’s a job seeker. He looks familiar and looks alike a typical wet lefty.

    Hopefully someone will out him for being a BBC stooge.

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    • My Site (click to edit) says:
      February 22, 2012 at 10:06 am

      I’ve no doubt they have any number of SWP members (all of whom are long-term unemployed) on speed-dial ready to say what they want to hear.

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  7. Martin says:
    February 21, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Can anyone remember the last time Newsnight put the Labour party through the meat grinder?

    When the Tories were in opposition they were trashed on an almost nightly basis by the BBC, whislt Labour were ‘bigged up’.

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    • Llew says:
      February 22, 2012 at 8:22 am

      The Tories haven’t got a clue. They cannot handle hostile questioning, they cannot put up a strong candidate for an interview, they don’t monitor the bias, they don’t really counter the attacks from Labour, they don’t plan a defence on any controversial issue and they don’t see anything ‘wrong’ with the BBC. They are doomed.

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      • Llew says:
        February 22, 2012 at 8:24 am

        I should really say they don’t usually handle hostile questioning – Gove sometimes hits back, but that is very rare.

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        • dave s says:
          February 22, 2012 at 10:07 am

          The majority of the cabinet are not conservatives. I don’t know what they are other than the usual power seeking greedy bunch that usually afflict this country.

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      • andrew slack says:
        February 22, 2012 at 3:10 pm

        The Tories will NEVER do anything about the blatant political bias of the BBC whilst they have a completely useless pillock like Jeremy Hunt as Culture Secretary. He’s a total liabilty who doesn’t know what day it is, never mind being aware that the National Broadcaster is threatening democracy with its blatant left wing propaganda.  It beggars belief that Cameron is said to be considering this buffoon for the post of Health Secretary.

        Perhaps it needs a concerned rich philanthropist to bring, if it’s possible, some form of legal action against the Beeb fort’s for continually violating their Charter. It’s a certainty that Jeremy Hunt won’t do it.

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  8. cjhartnett says:
    February 21, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Spot on Martin!
    We need Margaret Thathcer and we get Theresa May/Caroline Spelman
    We need Norman Tebbit and we get Andrew Lansley and Francis Maude.
    Couldn`t someone get David Davis, Michael Howard, William Hague and cannibalise SOMETHING good and a threat to the BBC?
    It`s way too easy for them-only the Hitchens, Murrays and the occasional Redwood/Jenkin to save us…it`ll be Stephen Lennon if they don`t watch out too!

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    • Reed says:
      February 22, 2012 at 7:41 am

      I’m sure the Tory leadership have made a conscious decision to sideline and muffle all of their solid, competent ball-breakers in an attempt to appease the Guardian reading Liberatti and neutralise the ‘nasty party’ image. When will they learn that these lefties will ALWAYS hate the Tories regardless, but support from their natural voters is entirely conditional. They seem unaware that they are creating a lose-lose situation for themselves.

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  9. George R says:
    February 21, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    INBBC report-    
       
    “Men ‘plied girls with drink and drugs for sex’, court hears.”      
         
         
    INBBC now has a significant presence in Manchester, so it will be able to pay close attention to the activities of certain [……] men against white English school girls.      
         
    Of course, the English Defence League (much despised and opposed by INBBC) has been trying to draw attention to such activities for some time.      
         
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17118457          
         
    (inc video clip.)      
       
         
         
    ‘Daily Mail’ :-     
         
         
    “Eleven men ‘plied girls of 13 with drink and drugs to use them for sex’.        
       
    “*One girl claimed her phone number was passed around the men who then exploited her for sex.    
    “*One girl, 13, became pregnant and had to have the child aborted .    
    “*Another said she was raped by two men while she was so drunk she vomited over the side of the bed.    
    “*A 16-year-old girl is alleged to have ‘recruited’ the girls for the men.    
    “*The men all knew each other from a takeaway and a taxi service.”     
       
       
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104360/Group-11-men-plied-girls-13-drink-drugs-use-sex.html 

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  10. Jeff Waters says:
    February 22, 2012 at 7:21 am

    The explanation for this link – Fox calling for business tax cuts-is as follows:

    ‘Former defence secretary Liam Fox, as well as business leaders, urge the chancellor to cut taxes to boost British business in next month’s Budget’

    I think it’s easy to work out from the above where the BBC stands on the issue of tax cuts…

    Jeff

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  11. John Anderson says:
    February 22, 2012 at 8:12 am

    It is scandalous that Richard Black has failed to report on the exposure that rabid Warrmist Dr Peter Gleick has admiitted that he stole documents from the Heartland Institute and is well in the frame for having faked a further document defaming the Institute.  This has been open news for 36 hours – with the Heartland Institute openly accusing Gleick of the fake – not just the theft of real documents.

    Black rushed to print on the original theft on 15 February – without establishing any facts with the Heartland Institute.  But since Dr Gleick’s dramatic admission – radio silence from Black,  not even a stealth update on his original story.

    Here is a WSJ-TV clip with the HI director explaining the whole story.  You can see exactly why Black shies away from it.

    http://online.wsj.com/video/opinion-the-purloined-climate-papers/F3DAA9D5-4213-4DC0-AE0D-5A3D171EB260.html

    I hope the Institute takes legal action against Black and the BBC – and the Guardian.  Gleick is known to have sent his stuff to “15 Friends” – people he knew would join in attacking the Institute.  Is Black one of them ?

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    • John Anderson says:
      February 22, 2012 at 9:13 am

      As an example of the vitriol and paranoia on the Global Warmism side – here is DeSmog’s hitlist of “enemies”.   Right down to poor old Patrick Moore and David Bellamy.

      http://www.desmogblog.com/global-warming-denier-database

      DeSmog is the website that first crowed about publishing the Gleick FakeGate documents – it is still hailing Gleick as a hero for the Warmism cause.  I expect they will be sued by Heartland for refusing to take down the links to the offending documents.   That will be their nemesis,  after their current hubris.  “Beware Gleicks bearing gifts ?” 

      It is a Gleick tragedy working itself out.

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    • Dogstar060763 says:
      February 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm

      I’m still waiting to see any mention of this news story anywhere on the BBC’s new site. It is simply staggering that a story that has been covered in detail by such sites as The Wall Street Journal has not been mentioned even in passing by the totally corrupt BBC.

      One is left to consider the only possible explanation: this story is not be reported as it goes against the BBC’s pro-AGW narrative. It will be erased from history, as if it never happened. History will be re-written to adhere to the agreed doctrine.

      Absolutely mind blowing.

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      • John Anderson says:
        February 22, 2012 at 1:02 pm

        Gleick’s confession was in the Guardian 2 days ago – the journalist rthere continued to treat him as some sort of hero. There is no way that Black missed seeing the news.

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        • Dogstar060763 says:
          February 22, 2012 at 1:10 pm

          I’ve been reading about this story on Sky News, The New York Times, even the Christian Science Monitor…every major news corp seems to have at least mentioned Gleick’s monumental idiocy (some have gone much further), except, of course, for the BBC which has not even seen fit to mention it once.

          As I said: simply staggering. Let this example provide the proof – as if it were still somehow needed – that BBC is wholly unfit for purpose as far as keeping to it’s own rules on ‘impartiality’.

          I’m willing to put money on the possibility that when – IF – the BBC ever do get around to this major story they will still find a way to spin it less as a tale of an entirely crooked climate scientist knowingly stealing private documents, more as a warmist hero standing up for ‘real’ science in the name of (peverted) ‘truth’.

          We’ll see.

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          • Peter Parker says:
            February 22, 2012 at 2:40 pm

            Black’s repsonse is up:

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17126699

            As expected he deftly skips over Gleick’s admission of identity theft & fraud (and alleged libel too). He ignores his own complicity in publishing fake smears – and instead writes a piece arguing that people who provide sceptics with (paltry) funding should be named and shamed. Sickening.

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            • John Horne Tooke says:
              February 22, 2012 at 8:05 pm

              That is one of the most disgusting excuses for “journalism” I have ever seen.

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            • John Horne Tooke says:
              February 22, 2012 at 8:31 pm

              What a nasty parasite he is. Calls himself a journalist. If the BBC can employ such a creature as Black then they really are past saving. I would also include Harrabin, Shuckman and Gregory in that statement. Any unbiased journalist would distance themselves publically from him.

              Black is so arrogant one day he will go too far without realising it.

              “the BBC has finally weighed in, and it’s lame”. It only took Richard Black 36 hours to be convinced by an onslaught of emails. Whatta guy! The article makeup leaves no question now that Black is biased beyond all hope.”
              http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/20/breaking-gleick-confesses/

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:
            February 22, 2012 at 2:45 pm

            Will the BBC ever ask if The Obamessiah will be sending the cops to raid Gleick’s home and seizing his personal laptops like they did to Roger Tattersall? Gleick committed two crimes: identity theft and document theft. Will the BBC even care about the rule of law being perverted yet again in deference to ideology?

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    • John Horne Tooke says:
      February 22, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      To the BBC this poor excuse for a scientist is a “visionary”
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sci_tech/features/essentialguide/vis_env.shtml

      The so-called “(dumbed down) science” reporters at the BBC worship the post-scientific method . They are the modern alchemists and psedo-scientists  Black, Harrabin,Gregory et al  have taken science back to the Dark Ages.

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  12. Martin says:
    February 22, 2012 at 8:20 am

    So the BBC is sTILL advertising unpiad work experience on its website and now this story as well in the Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104416/BBC-centre-exploitation-row-advert-500-staff-work-FREE-Olympic-Games.html

    But silence from the BBC.

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  13. As I See It says:
    February 22, 2012 at 8:55 am

    BBC radio 5 Live is an awkward mix of sport and left-wing opinion.

    A genuinely unbiased outfit interested in sport, news politics and finances would surely join some of these dots……

    Greek EU debt bailout.

    2004 Athens Summer Olympics.

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/05/24/now-theyre-sorry-athens-owe-lympics/

    ‘The estimated $15 billion Greece paid for the 2004 Olympics may seem like a pittance now that the country is so indebted that it has had to borrow $145 billion from its European partners just to stay solvent. But lavish and wasteful Olympic spending, which ballooned to as much as nine times the original budget to build sports facilities that are now moldering unused in Athens, now looks like a clear early warning that the country had a serious problem with fiscal probity.’

    Oh, the irony…..

    ‘Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)’

    ‘To commemorate the games, a series of Greek high value Euro collectors’ coins were minted by the Mint of Greece, in both silver and gold.’

    The Beeb did report on Greek Olympic debt ….in September 2004….down the memory hole.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3649268.stm

    ‘Greece is facing a massive budget deficit as it tries to absorb the cost of the Olympic Games.

    The expected 7bn euro ($8.6bn; £4.8bn) burden means the national deficit is set to hit 5.3% in 2004′

    ‘Not only did Athens have to sustain the usual cost of trying to outdo previous host cities.

    The heightened fears following 9/11 meant that Athens was faced with a bill for security which was five times higher than that of Sydney in 2000′

    “Social policy was done with borrowed cash, said Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis.’

    Enjoy your 2012 London Olympics, Beeboids.


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  14. noggin says:
    February 22, 2012 at 9:12 am

    an update on this from yesterday

    “……… “Angry Afghans rally over Quran disposal at US base,” by D Riechmann  Associated Press, Feb 21  
     
    el beeb goes into full on pantwetting mode highlighting “sincerest apologies”, “afghan koran  protests spreading” etc etc  
    even provides a map of where said burning occurred 😀  
    Nato apologises for Afghan Koran ‘disposal’  
     
    ohhh! brother! ………….”

     the bbc is still wetting its pants on  this, this morning if anything its worse
     maybe they overlooked this nugget of information.

    “Official: Burned Islamic religious material had ‘extremist inscriptions,'”
    CNN, Feb 21

    this being the case, if the quran had no scribbled inscriptions at all …
    and was pristine it WOULD STILL be full of terrorist, racist, fascist, antisemitic bile anyway. 😀 …. burnings too good for it

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  15. As I See It says:
    February 22, 2012 at 9:53 am

    I wonder when the BBC might pick up on this story?

    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-mayor/article-24037185-vote-fraud-fears-are-exposed-in-run-up-to-election.do

    ‘Dozens of flats in a key borough are holding up to eight people per bedroom, according to the electoral register.
    Tenants in Tower Hamlets said it was “impossible” for so many residents to share one property and some admitted they had never heard of their apparent flatmates. In one case, 12 adults are still listed as voters at a three-bedroom flat in Mile End despite having moved out about four months before officials gathered data for the register.’

    Google BBC voter fraud and you get a story about Russia. Local elections in Russia’s Tambov region!

    Google BBC London voter fraud and you get a story about the Democratic Republic of Congo (there was demo about DR Congo rigged elections held in Whitehall – 139 arrestes).

    Is Tower Hamlets too close to home for the Beeb to take an interest?

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    • jarwill101 says:
      February 22, 2012 at 10:27 am

        Tower Hamlets – the beeboids’ show-borough for multiculturalism. Except it’s virtually monocultural: Islamic. But, thankfully, it’s a safe distance from the remakably un-enriched enclaves in which these bloated, BBC, KILL-ME-LAST-ISLAMIST-DOORMATS, reside. Tower Hamlets – a cultural-Marxist engineered, unmitigated disaster for indigenous Britons, & the law-abiding non-muslim immigrants that do contribute to this country. Look at it & weep.

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  16. As I See It says:
    February 22, 2012 at 10:05 am

    Dame Nicky on Salford local radio fretting about apologies this morning. We’ve had it all: Cameron’s apology for Bloody Sunday; Blair’a apology for slavery; etc etc etc….

    What sparked this new round of self-loathing?

    An Argentinian has made an unreserved apology for his actions.

    The Falklands? Don’t be silly – apologies are only expected for Anglo-Saxon crimes.

    This was mardy footballer Carlos Tevez. See you in Salford?

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  17. George R says:
    February 22, 2012 at 10:06 am

    “Mass immigration, and how Labour tried to destroy Britishness”

    By Simon Heffer

    [Excerpt]:

    “The Left has always understood this: that if you manage to wreck a national culture and a national identity, you shatter the ties of history and nationhood forged over centuries.

    Although there used to be patriotic Leftists — and there still are one or two — many in the New Labour project in the Nineties and Noughties were, effectively, self-hating Britons.

    They tortured themselves with post-imperial guilt, wanted the country to lose its independence and be ruled by Brussels, and sought to have what a BBC executive called the ‘hideously white’ mainstream culture diluted by ‘diversity’. “

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2104550/Mass-immigration-Labour-tried-destroy-Britishness.html#ixzz1n6UY8QTj

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    • George R says:
      February 22, 2012 at 10:41 am

      As a supplement to this theme, there is Roger SCRUTON’s excellent Civitas pamphlet, ‘England and the Need for Nations’ (2006).

      Here is Chapter 8 (which specifically relates to BBC):

      http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/cs49-8.pdf

      Also:

      http://www.civitas.org.uk/pubs/Scruton_cs49.php

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      • cjhartnett says:
        February 22, 2012 at 9:19 pm

        A joy to read the Maestro of Malmesbury.
        I`m grateful that we`ve got our prophets still…and with Murrays, Hannans etc; we`ll get there.
        Thanks too to the contributor who gave us the “Retreat of Reason” extracts by Anthony Browne…everything the BBC is NOT providing for its pliant customers…but truth will out!

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 22, 2012 at 2:48 pm

      The more I think about it, the more it seems like a small step towards a Maoist Cultural Revolution. The only way to create the culture you want is to purge the existing one.

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  18. Roland Deschain says:
    February 22, 2012 at 10:20 am

    Why is the BBC reporting on the Afghanistan book-burning protests as if this is a perfectly rational reaction?  Surely that kind of behaviour is, to coin a phrase, disproportionate.

    Or does the BBC consider them to be savage backwards foreigners from whom nothing better can be expected?  Racists.

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    • Roland Deschain says:
      February 22, 2012 at 10:27 am

      At the bottom of that article is “Are you in Afghanistan? Are you taking part in the protests? Please send us your comments.”

      So I did.  They weren’t very complimentary.

      “No I’m not.  Why on earth would I kill and maim over some books that got burned, however aggrieved I felt?  Wouldn’t that be disproportionate?  Why are you treating such behaviour as normal?”

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      • George R says:
        February 22, 2012 at 1:42 pm

        ‘Jihadwatch’:

        Seven dead in Afghan protests over Qur’an burning  
         
         
        [Excerpt]:  
         
        “There can be no stable or prosperous society — and indeed, no self-government — with such a sense of entitlement to wreak havoc when insulted. Self-government depends on government of the self.  
        “Does a lethal rampage un-burn the Qur’ans? Of course not. The inclination to revel in an orgy of self-righteous rage preceded the incident that set off this episode. A rampage found its excuse.”

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        February 22, 2012 at 3:54 pm

        I fully expect Huw Edwards to once again ask an MCB guy why Mohammedans aren’t reacting in a more “nuanced” manner, like he did when they rioted and killed after that pastor in Florida committed the thought crime of suggesting he might burn a Koran.

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        • cjhartnett says:
          February 22, 2012 at 6:16 pm

          The Taliban need no excuse to act up as wasps in a jar…what the hell else do they do, but fan their grievances and kill anyone weaker than themselves/
          To hear the US Army grovelling turned my stomach…got to be Obamas influence I hope. Or else we`re doomed.
          And…if it`s alleged that the inmates were using their sacred Korans to pass on messages, then surely we can sens them a few Bibles by way of compensation.
          That`s the trouble-when I hear wallies like General Cave-in and the typical slitherings of the MSM-I tend to see the Korans as padded stones that the Taliban throw at the West…as if there`s not enough for them to throw at their women and kids.
          Luckily the Beeb more than compensate for my lack fo “nuance”.

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  19. Martin says:
    February 22, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    So guess who the BBC is blaming for Syria? Yep the west, we are not doing enough according ot Viki Pollard. Really BBC? I thought it was the chinks and the commies doing all the blocking?

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  20. David Preiser (USA) says:
    February 22, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    I noticed a small sign that at least someone at the BBC knows just how bad the current and previous Government’s Warmist policies have been for the economy on Today this morning. Evan Davis’s segment with the the DG of the CBI had an amusing moment, but if you blinked, you missed it.

    While talking about what the current Government was doing wrong, or just wasn’t doing at all, to stimulate the economy (no, of course the BBC isn’t going to be discussing what the nasty Tories get right), Davis asked John Cridland if he thought that some members of the Government were “a bit anti-business”. This was obviously a leading question, pre-arranged by the producers, as part of setting the outline for the interview. No big deal, this is how these things are done.

    Cridland answered that he wants to abolish the strangling carbon reduction commitment. This was not the answer Davis was looking for, and he ignored what should be a major issue. It became clear a minute later when he tried to press Cridland on calling out Vince Cable. Whether or not Cridland has previously criticized Cable for something is entirely beside the point.

    Davis obviously wasn’t interested in discussing how Warmist policies harm the economy, and really wanted to elicit a criticism about something else. But the mere fact that he let that go unchallenged shows not only that he and his producers had an agenda to get the CBI to point the finger at specific Cabinet members (this was definitely pre-determined, as Davis had a prepared question about Cable), but that he knows just how damaging these Warmist policies are, and doesn’t dare touch it. He could have challenged Cridland on his call to abolish the carbon cutting crap, but he didn’t.

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    • cjhartnett says:
      February 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm

      Yes I heard that.
      And whan Cridland said he wouldn`t name the so-called anti-business Ministers, Evan said…”go on”…I kid you not!
      That`s the level of washing line drivel that passes for “news and analysis” withe the useless overstuffed lardarses that squat in the Toady Studio..
      Surely the Occupy lot could do with a “pad” to “pass the goss” on whether Liam is going to send a card for Vinces party…or is he, girls?

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      • Millie Tant says:
        February 23, 2012 at 12:42 am

        Why am I not surprised? He ranges from lightweight partisan and would-be Tory assassin to lightheaded gadabout and gossip.

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    • Dogstar060763 says:
      February 22, 2012 at 9:12 pm

      Well spotted, David. Getting Davis to sensibly engage in the climate debate is going to be impossible; like all good Party Members, he and his apparatchiks in The Corporation have their agreed policy on such matters and they are not permitted (or inclined, it seems) to deviate from it. Going off-message is professional suicide in the BBC, as any fule kno.

      Still, it’s getting to be quite enjoyable watching the prevailing wisdom on AGW slowly shift right before the BBC’s disbelieving eyes…like a dead-eyed dinosaur staring at a bright light in the sky. And it gets bigger and brighter every day…

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  21. George R says:
    February 22, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Beeboids to wear black armbands?

    “Now UNoccupy St Paul’s: Protesters lose final battle to halt eviction and will be kicked out”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2104716/St-Pauls-protesters-lose-final-battle-halt-eviction-kicked-out.html#ixzz1n7yESVzh

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  22. George R says:
    February 22, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    For BBC-NUJ:

    “Who’s afraid of the Sun rising on a Sunday?
    Rupert Murdoch’s new tabloid has already been branded a ‘creature from the swamp’ – let’s hope it is the News of the World with knobs on.”


    http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/12134

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  23. As I See It says:
    February 22, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    BBC’s Peter Allen makes his bid for the Dame Nicky Campbell title of honorary Queen of the radio feminists.

    ‘It’s always bemused me that when a married couple have children they take the father’s name and not the mother’s….’

    Has it Pete? Well keep your leftie opinions to yourself!

    Or is pushing a feminist agenda now officially BBC policy?

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  24. Martin says:
    February 22, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Whilst America lets Iran build a nuke and loses the war in Afghanistan St Barry is partying at the Whitehouse and boy do those beeboids love it.

    Can you imagine the erections at BBC TV centre seeing Barry ‘grooving’ away?

    Can you imagine the kicking ‘Boosh’ would have had if he’d had those nasty Country and Western red necks around for a night?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      February 22, 2012 at 6:42 pm

      And Michelle is taking yet another lavish vacation with the 1%ers, this time a skiing trip to Aspen amongst luxurious settings, staying at the home of a wealthy Chicago campaign cash donor. Yet another Marie Antoinette moment censored by the BBC.

      Come to think of it, this isn’t really fair to Marie Antoinette, as at least she wasn’t doing it deliberately while her husband was telling the rest of us to share the sacrifice.

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