The Today website is no longer providing clips of every part of the programme. No explanation, but I assume it’s something to do with the cuts. Hmm.
More importantly, as stories about failed rogue states, Islamist wars, terrorism and piracy reach a crescendo, why doesn’t anyone publicly acknowledge there’s connection between them all? The only factor that determines whether the BBC sees Islamic terrorists as good or bad seems to be whether they are known to have links with Al Qaeda.Al Shebab, Boko Harem, Hizbollah, Hamas – all apparently a-okay. Until they’re ‘known to be linked with’ Alky Ada. Then – say no more. Quite puzzling.
The current violence in Afghanistan over these burnt korans.
I’m baffled as to why everyone accepts one of the most superstitious superstitions of all the Islamic superstitions as being the outrage it apparently is. When Evan Davis spoke to Jim Muir, his empathy with this preposterous sensitivity was baffling. Who makes a fuss when the same hyper-sensitive religious fanatics burn the American/Israeli flag? Who calls for riots when mobs shout “Death to Amerika/Britain?” Who turns a hair when they call Israel a cancer and vow to excise it from the planet? All people do is say “They don’t really mean it” with a knowing smirk.
Even more strange, there are certain acceptable methods of koran disposal, it seems.
A scholarly imam with an Islamic bushel of bushy beard has to chant the holy salagagoola mechicka boola bibbidi-bobbidi-boo and throw it over his left shoulder into the Holy See.
Or it can be burnt.
See Evan? Burning’s okay after all! It must be burnt to a crisp. The mistake was leaving the fragments!
So the Afghanis who were ‘helping’ the Americans were so religious that instead of quietly whispering “look bud, finish the job properly,” they took the fragments and showed them to their mates in order to start a religiously motivated killing spree. This was helpful?
I’m baffled.
Easy – heads, sand.
very true, el beeb is just following obama doctrine right down the pipe…
ex. recall all CIA docs, national security etc make sure its the new buzz words A.Q. terrorism, and wipe it … so its nothing to do with Islam, that ideology thats soooo …. close to his heart,
(oh is?. he STILL apologising for burning that terrorist manual eh! ) …
shucks! with deceitfu,l treasonous, treacherous friends like that eh!
el beeb/knobama … like that,(crosses fingers) they are 😀
Evan Davis, Jim Muir and the rest of those “professional” reporters aren’t really much better than that Stacey Dooley.
Except as far as we know they never worked in a shop.
I have to say that it is amusing that the Americans are sooooo apologetic for burning a few korans, (which were in with terrorist materials and may have contained terrorist related orders), Yet bombing wedding parties is brushed off. What is even stranger to me is how the afghans themselves react less violently to having their immediate family members blown up, than someone burning a Koran.
Funny that Muslims can get wound up over a few stupid books being set fire to yet when Assad is mudering thousands there is not a single protest ANYWHERE in the world.
Martin
“there is not a single protest ANYWHERE in the world.”
Well there was a noisy protest in the Today studio this morning. Humphrys got very annoyed with Hague for equivocating about getting us involved sharpish.
I defer to Craigs Law here…and I`d keep a tab on which bits the BBC DO keep as clips…and the bits that they don`t.
I remember noting Andrew Marrs Start the Week was edited to remove Paul Therouxs riposte to Marr (that there were no new travel adventures for our travel writers)…Theroux said “do a Richard Burton and get yourself into Mecca or Medina as an non-Muslim”.
Of course the edit was 15 minutes shorter…but you soon get the idea what the BBC likes us to know about…and what slips out on a “live” show, never to be repeated.
Your second point about fragments…wouldn`t take much for me to think that the BBC/Guardian would happily “pass it on in the interest of public discloures”…as long as someone gets a few decent photos or reels out of it.
I happen to think now that the BBC thinks its its own nation state, and likes to spin its religions, no matter what the cost to the rest of us.
“I’m baffled.”
To suggest that murderous rioting is anything other than an understandable reaction to the burning of the Koran would be a Value Judgment Crime. You know that, Sue.
Naturally, if you were to immerse a crucific in piss and pass it off as art, you would be feted in the Guardian and BBC.
But if there is any whiff of disrespect aimed at Islam and its accompaniments you can expect hushed and reverential tones from reporters and words such as ‘deeply-held beliefs’, ‘sensitivity’ and ‘offence’ to be scattered like confetti through every conversation.
The Beeb were very keen to expound to us on the so-called Arab Spring. It was a positive story concerning the Isamic nations for which they seemed to have been waiting.
Not that any of the worldly wise big hitters from among our own correspondents actually saw it coming – they had their forensic microscopes fixed on Gaza.
Will they warn us of an Islamic Winter?
No, no, no. Chomsky would have a fit!
That would be like admitting that leftist regimes have problems with democracy and human rights.
The role of the BBC is hold the West to account for its actions. It is to denegrate and attack Western society, traditions and history.
If someone burnt The Torah I would not be happy about it. If Muslims burnt my Torah I would be even more unhappy. But if Muslims burnt my Torah and I didn’t know then I couldn’t get very excited.
I am sure I read from a link from this site that the Koran had in this instance been ‘edited’ with inflammatary writings. If this is the case the ROP was not treating its own bible with respect – how then could they expect the Americans to do the same? However it was not a brilliant move by the Americans to burns these pages in Afghanistan – could they not have been taken back to the US for disposal in an appropriate manner?
However this is a site about BBC bias and what I am sure about is the way the BBC would report it and that only one side was to blame and it is the Western one.
Had the bBC not given the Koran burning maximum publicity, few would known have known about it. Having lit the Muslim world’s predictable blue touchpaper, they sit back and report the escalating body count. Usual bBC calculating to inflame Muslim opinion against America.
Here is the real islam at work.
Christian pastor sentenced to death in Iran for refusing to renounce his faith could be hanged ‘at any time without warning’
<img src=”http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/09/29/article-2043306-0E2553A900000578-747_87x84.jpg” alt=”Facing execution Youcef Nadarkhani, left, is pictured with his wife and two children in an undated photograph circulated by religious rights organisations”/>
Youcef Nadarkhani, 34, was arrested more than two years ago on charges of apostasy, and has now been sentenced to death by an Iranian court for refusing to renounce his Christianity, according to the pastor’s legal team.
The BBC has space and time to peddle a story about a terrorist ‘Palestinian’ on hunger strike, oh the humanity. No time for a Christian about to be strangled slowly to death from a crane, his crime? To be a Christian. Where is the CoE? whining about the invisble demons of the CAGW fraud of course.
The islamofascists at the BBC and their useful idiot collaborators are probably laughing at this mans plight.
the COE eschewed biblical christianity many moons ago
they are now social workers in dog collars
Islam Not BBC (INBBC) has a definite political agenda to censor out the 1,300 years of Islamic imperialism, which is continuing, and is motivated by tenets of Islam, notably by jihad, and the imposition of Sharia law globally.
“A Taste of Islam: An Interview with Bill Warner”
http://www.politicalislam.com/blog/a-taste-of-islam-an-interview-with-bill-warner/
I agree Mr Calling!
In a similar veing, You and Yours are happy to tell us all about the Eorophile lock that is fitted to all uPVC doors.
Burglars apparently find them a doddle to break into…and the scallies of West Yorkshire are particularly aware of this.
Thankfully now though-Winifred Robinson has told the rest of the antion that a good burglar can break the lock in 40 secs (if they`re actually as good as they say they are).
Thank you BBC…only hope that Salfords Media City has loads of uPVC doors.
PS…what is it with Winnie…last time I noted that she was telling us all how to sneak posh champagne out at watermelon prices using self-service tills at Tescos?
She`s a rum `un isn`t she?
Jesus in a nappy on Jerry Springer the opera
Gilbert and george having jesus made out of Faeces and Jesus getting a blow job on the cross.Christians who speak out about the above are depicted as biggoted evangelist types , all creationist hypocrites who hate science.
When Tariq Towel Head and his mates start popin off a few caps in some locals ass they are justified as righteously protesting the religious insult.
When Sarah Palin is depicted like some sought of spanish inquisitor because she is a practicing christian yet routine female genital mutilation is considered just an endearing cultural quirk you know the bbc has one law for one and quite another for their chosen race.
Multi culti crap only ever goes one way.
For Islam Not BBC, its main political enemy is not the supporters and perpetrators of Islamic jihad groups such as Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Shabaab, Boko Haram, or Al Qaeda,etc., it is the English Defence League, which opposes all those Islamic jihadists.
Also worth bearing in mind that the same BBC that reports 24/7 on the outrageously outrageous Koran Kalamity, refuses to report on Islamic violence closer to home, supposedly for fear of stirring up an ‘extremist’ backlash (that never actually arrives).
SOMALIA.
The political line of Britain’s political ‘elite’ (inc Tories-Lib Dems-Labour-INBBC, etc) has these disastrous elements:-
1.) Islamic jihad murderers of Al Shabaab should be seen as mere Islamic ‘militants’ (the way INBBC designates them), and should not be seen as motivated by the tenets of Islam (as Al Shabaab say they are), but that they are really motived to kill, persecute, kidnap and rob, because of poverty.
2.) The people of Britain and the West should be taxed further so that more ‘foreign aid’ gets into the hands of corrupt Somali politicians and war lords, and well as into the hands of Al Shabaab.
3.)Increase mass immigration from Somalia to UK, Islamic jihadists not excluded, as has been the case to date; neither have illiterates who live off the UK welfare state in large numbers.
And in America, (2008 article)-
“Fitzgerald: Who decided that we owed this to Somalis?”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/10/fitzgerald-who-decided-that-we-owed-this-to-somalis.html
Also ‘Sky News’:
“Meanwhile details of life among the Shabab emerged during an interview with two recent defectors who fled the rebels after being recruited from a madrasa, a religious school, four years ago.
They told Sky News that they had seen ‘many’ ethnic Somalis from Britain among foreign fighters from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Egypt.
‘I heard them talking. They said if we are defeated here then we will carry out bombings in England and we will transfer the jihad to there. They were holding British passports, they were saying we are planning to go back to the UK that’s what they were saying,’ Mohammed Dahreer, 19, said.”
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16175211
“Muslims from UK, including converts, misunderstand Islam and travel to Somalia to wage jihad”
– The British political ‘elite’ has enabled this Somali Islamic jihad to develop INSIDE BRITAIN, and the continuing immigration from Somalia guarantees more of the same: this policy can be accurately descibed as one of NATIONAL SUICIDE.
-Multipy the Somalia example by 20 plus other Islamic countries, and we have the political recipe for the violent demise of Britain and its people.
Why do I get the feeling that there`s a problem getting khat down Shepherds Bush Market then?
This new interest in Somalia…in case Iran, Syria, Greece and Israel prove not to keep the BBC fondling their worry beads…seems just another pretext to cast Al Shabab as victimes of Koran burning from 1989 up to today.
As for what they`re up to in Bahrain?…sorry, but that has absolutely no effect on the khat trade.
“I’m baffled as to why everyone accepts one of the most superstitious superstitions of all the Islamic superstitions as being the outrage it apparently is.”
Mmm, perhaps it has something to do with living in a country that has been invaded and occupied by a foreign state for ten years, resulting in the deaths of tens of thousands of your fellow countrymen?
Just a thought…
I’m no fan of Ron Paul, but here’s another thought:
And who would that be Dez?
Here`s a few for you…the Romans, the Arabs/Islam…the Communists?…even the Italians or the British?
Won`t take too much imagination to guess who gets the blame re “foreign invasions”…and who gets your thanks for “targetted, thoughtful consciousness raising and clear laws based on native/cultural traditions”?
Here`s a clue for you Dez…Suez/Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Libya,Yemen…what do they have in common?
Dare I say they`re all faultlines where Communism(or its lite version-Socialism) meets Islam(or its lite version…pretty much the multikulti cringe that you and the BBC/broadsheets represent).
Dez,
I’m arresting you for the crime of hit an’ run. Kindly give yourself up to your local police station immediately.
On second thoughts, no need. You missed by a mile. 😉
P.S.
The beauty of an unmoderated website is that anyone can swan in at one in the morning and make an utterly illogical insinuation topped off with a wildly ill-informed analogy, both of which do little more than show show they’ve absorbed the BBC’s partisan narrative lock stock and barrel.
If I believed you were ready willing or able to substantiate, defend or clarify any of your points Dez, I’d be delighted to take you on, but past performance suggests not.
You have a habit of ringing the doorbell and running away. I imagine responses give you the same kind of sadistic afterglow. Can’t think why else you’d bother.
There’s a lot of it about.
Some are down to…
Two. Words.
Which almost inevitably equate to..
Dig. Deeper.
Like the analogy in the final para 🙂
Actually there are far more details that the BBC has conveniently forgotten to mention.
US army caught ‘refugees’ passing around books and folders with taliban/terrorist material and written messages secreted in them. So they burnt the lot, a truckload of terrorist documentation. In this pile of paperwork were a couple of Korans. So the Taliban are using the western media, once again, to do their work, attack the western armies, and have a ‘justification’ for rioting, shooting, killing etc.
No-where on the BBC will you get the truth.