115 Responses to OPEN THREAD….

  1. As I See It says:

    BBC Shelagh Fogarty brings us a wide spectrum of opinion about the future of the Falklands – from Buenos Aires.  
     
    That’s my licence fee well spent then.  
     
    The BBC : Suspend their World Visas!

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    • Bupendra Bhakta says:

      Yes these world tours are to the droids what expenses are to MPs – salary that we the little people don’t realise is salary.

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  2. Natsman says:

    According to Toady, Svalbard has become the latest eco-hippie haven for “scientists”, celebs and important persons from around the world, where they can all rub shoulders with each other, sip the Kool-aid and make stupid comments about global warming and climate change.  So concerned are they about poor Gaia, that the horrible Baroness Ashton could be heard arriving in her electric helicopter, to make a difference (and seal our fate).

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  3. Demon1001 says:

    New thread?  Damn, I was just waiting to see how Dezzie answered my question to him about whether he believes everything the BBC tells him.

    I’ll try again – Dez do you believe everything the BBC tell you?  A reminder that a refusal to answer would indicate that you do.

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    • john says:

      Demon
      I think you will have to wait until at least 03.00 for his rejoinder.

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      • Demon1001 says:

        Well, I’ll check again in the morning then.  Thanks for that.

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      • jarwill101 says:

          Yep, the night shift. That’s the time the leftoidal software in Daysleeper Dez’s sanctimonious head tells him it’s ok to start tinkling the same old same old on somebody’s computer. More Bums up for Islam. Yawn.

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    • Pounce says:

      Demon I was really struck by how quick Dez (like so many) was in playing the Daily Mail Canard.
      What really amazes me about people who are so quick to berate the Daily Mail , is they are the very same people who promote the view that everybody is equal , that we should allow people to live as they wish and that we should keep our noses out of their business.
      Which is why they demand (quite rightly) why we shouldn’t look down on minorities be they: Women, disabled, coloured, of a different faith or even Homosexual.  Yet the very people who shout out the loudest for defending the views of others are more than happy to attack people who happen to read the Daily Mail. So I had a look at the Daily today and found that it juxtaposes feel good stories with negatives ones. As Dépêche Mode sang:”Get the Balance right” Which is probably why the Daily Mail Website is one of the success stories of the Internet.
      The irony here is the bBC is aping the Daily Mail in which to capture some of its market. Only today the bBC airs a story about how Prince Harry can’t find Love. So to all the defenders of the bBC news, should they be promoting such a story? Then there’s the story about how the Bell from the Costa Concordia has gone missing, is this news? Or how about how the ugliest dog in the world has died.
      The people who attack the DM in defence of the bBC don’t seem to have realised that the bBC is just as bad but in their stubborn defence of Auntie they have become Myopic. I mean so much for no adverts on the bBC, what the hell is that video montage before the start of the bBC news. As for the guardian , as DV wrote earlier on about its TV ad about how they reinvent the 3 little pigs as the real villains. So tell me what do you tell your child when he asks why is the Wolf the victim after reading him a bed time story? Even the Daily Mail doesn’t do that.

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      • wild says:

        The Left have never believed in freedom of speech (it is precisely what they are against); what they want is freedom for their speech, which is not quite the same thing. Nor do they believe in equality. They dislike anybody being richer than they are, which again is not quite the same thing.  
         
        P.S. Women are (were never and never shall be – this side of a brave new world) a minority.

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    • Demon1001 says:

      Dezzie old chum, we know by your increased and feverish activity recently on this site that you will have read this.  By not replying one way or the other you have confirmed that you obviously do believe everything the BBC tells you.  That is despite the thousands of examples that you read daily on this site which show that the BBC lies through its teeth on most issues.

      Therefore, for what’s left of your credibility, you need to drop one of your new “attack” lines: that of asking someone who quotes an article from the Daily Mail whether they believe everything in the paper.  After all, the Mail is hardly likely to be less truthful, on average, than the BBC whose lies you gullibly believe so wholeheartedly.  If ever you ask anyone “if they believe everything they read in the …. (whatever)” you will be laughed at even more than you are now.

      I think one could say that you have shot yourself in the foot on this one.

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      • RCE says:

        The DM is far more likely to be honest and factual; after all, if people don’t trust or believe it, it will lose it’s brand name and circulation will drop to Guardianesque levels.

        The BBC, of course, does not have this concern.

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  4. Louis Robinson says:

    Hand me the sick bag!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17377842

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      In this election year the president is accused by his opponents of failing to stand up for America and leading his country towards socialism. So this sort of endorsement from a conservative leader is gold dust.

      Er, what conservative leader? I see the leader of the Conservatives, but he’s hardly a conservative. Not by US standards.

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  5. cjhartnett says:

    If Occupy the City or Dale farm etc threaten, bully or otherwise “challenge” people going about their lawful business then this is a GOOD thing…raises awareness, confronts us all and saves tomorrows citizens from the coming storms of finance, global boiling etc. 
    If , however, a few people with placards pitch themselves outside the British Pregrancy Advisory Service and pray, try to “inform and challenge” people going about their lawful business in theo hope of savings tomorrows citizens from actually being aborted before they grow to BE citizens…then , as the Toady Show clearly stated…this is a BAD thing…
    I`m not saying that it`s not got its problems, but I just despise the BBC trumpeting the good rebellions that it likes…whilst heaping bile on those that it does not approve of…

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    • Limbal Smethwick says:

      I’ve often wondered how someone can be against the death penalty for murderers and rapists yet think abortion is OK when used as a contraceptive (IYSWIM).

      Anyone care to enlighten me?

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      • Bupendra Bhakta says:

        Or in one room in a hospital surgeons battle to save the life of of a child born prematurely at 23 weeks and off to the incubator – whereas just down the corridor a 23 week old foetus is being injected in the heart and/ or being decapitated and off to the incinerator.

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  6. Teddy Bear says:

    The news today from Israel is this
    Rocket attacks continue despite ceasefire
    Palestinian militants overnight continued to fire rockets and mortar shells at Israeli towns despite a ceasefire that was announced two days ago. Three Grad rockets were fired toward Be’er Sheva and Ofakim in southern Israel. This morning, after the Israel Air Force launched several strikes on the Gaza Strip overnight in response, Palestinian militants fired a rocket into southern Israel.
     The Iron Dome anti-missile battery shot down two of the Grads fired Wednesday night, while the third landed on open areas. After the rockets landed shortly before 07:00 pm local time, five southern cities – Be’er Sheva, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Kiryat Malakhi and Gan Yavneh – announced schools would remain closed today.

    Unsurprisingly, considering BBC’s record on this conflict, no mention of this breach of the truce by the Palestinians has so far been reported. Yahoo news does post an article from AFP on their Mid-East page, even though this article does also tend to report what happened with the ‘chronological inversion’ typical of the BBC.
    Israel, Palestinians trade fire but truce holds

    No doubt the BBC is waiting for Israel to kill one of these militant terrorists before they report it with the headlines we have already seen presents Israel as the aggressor, and the Palestinian as the poor victim.

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  7. Biodegradable says:

    Live at the moment, World Have Yor Say from “beautiful” Buenos Aires. Argentinians claiming the Falklands are theirs.

    To paraphrase pounce: The BBC, the traitors in our midst!

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    • As I See It says:

      Thirty years on and the Beeb’s friendly invasion of Argentina?

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p002w559


      ‘We talk to Argentines about life in their country & how they feel about the Malvinas

      In the words of Geroge Gershwin…


      Things have come to a pretty pass,
      Our romance is growing flat,
      For you like this and the other
      While I go for this and that.
      Goodness knows what the end will be,
      Oh, I don’t know where I’m at…
      It looks as if we two will never be one,
      Something must be done.

      You say eether and I say eyether,
      You say neether and I say nyther,
      Eether, eyether, neether, nyther,
      Let’s call the whole thing off!
      You like potato and I like potahto,
      You like tomato and I like tomahto,
      Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto!
      Let’s call the whole thing off!

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      • Biodegradable says:

        Another WHYS to hear and disbelieve:

        Gaza and Israel

        We speak to Gazans and Israelis about the latest violence between their countries

        The Gazan woman (a “social media activist”) and just some of her many lies and contradictions:

        “Israel wants to test its new weapons”.

        “We’re just victims”.

        “No justification”.

        “Hamas was elected democratically”.

        “Hamas has renounced violence”.

        “I was never let down by Hamas”.

        “Just a few thousand people are supporters of Hamas”.

        So let’s get this straight. If “Just a few thousand people are supporters of Hamas” how were they “elected democratically”?

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      • RCE says:

        Surely the word ‘Malivinas’ implies a value judgement?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      This must be an example of what Paxman meant by using the World Service to spread influence.

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  8. Biodegradable says:

    Behind the scenes in Gaza

    Some truth comes out in a BBC article from Monday…

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The choice for the Israeli side of the story of an upscale dress shop with broken windows – but all the dressed mannequins intact – seems a curious editorial choice from an allegedly impartial news organization who isn’t trying to create a Narrative.

      No intrepid Beeboids bothered to get a photo of an Israeli child in a bomb shelter or anything?

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  9. TheGeneral says:

    Yesterday on the Today program a frustrated Evan Davis while commenting on the reception David Cameron was receiving from President Obama and the fact that the President was, as a first, taking the Prime Minister on Airforce 1 to watch a basket ball game,   with some petulance spluttered ” Maybe the President wanted to go and because Cameron was there just thought maybe he had better take him.”

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    • As I See It says:

      Cameron’s US visit presents the Beeb with a dilema: How do they belittle our PM and yet big up Obama?

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    • Louis Robinson says:

      Nice observation,
      General. Beeboids are on the horns of a dilemma. Remember their hero Gordon Brown’s lukewarm reception at the Obama White House? “Brown had not only been seeking a bilateral meeting with Obama,” quoth the Guardian, “ but feelers were also sent out to hold a joint press conference, an event that would have boosted Brown’s efforts to offer himself as a linchpin of international diplomacy.”
       
      http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/sep/23/barack-obama-gordon-brown-talks

      But now Cameron has trumped Brown with a glittering dinner and a flight on Air Force One to a BASKETBALL GAME (at the cost of $179,750 per flight hour – that’s 1,138,293.93 Chinese Yuan for anyone counting).

      This love fest has nothing to do with the Prime Minister’s personality or policies, though surely he is a charming fresh-faced young man, or Mr. Obama’s ability to see clearly with “strength, moral authority and wisdom” – attributed to Mr. Cameron but probably written by someone in the Foreign Office.
      Rather it has everything to do with Mr. Obama’s need for useful “conservative” cover at a time of falling poll numbers – and a chance to play the statesman. Besides he LOVES parties.

      http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/06/barack_obama_let_them_eat_tar.html

      So, Beeboids, what to do? How can you continue their love affair with the President while at the same time dissing the Prime Minister? Stay tuned for another thrilling installment of Mr. Cameron Goes to Washington.

      By the way, has anyone asked if he brought the Churchill bust back to the Oval office?

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      • TheGeneral says:

        Rather than a lukewarm reception, we had to injure the embarrassing site of the Prime Minister (albeit the worst ever) of Great Britain, chasing the totally disinterested President of America through the kitchens of a Hotel in a desperate attempt to get him to speak to him.

        WONDERFUL !!!

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    • Millie Tant says:

      ” Maybe the President wanted to go and because Cameron was there just thought maybe he had better take him.”

      Yes, why doesn’t he refer to him as the Prime Minister rather than Cameron?

      Did anyone hear the same individual smarming over the Chinese ambassador yesterday morning? By the end it became so cloying and sugary and cosy, you would have thought it was an intimate personal encounter rather than a formal interview for public broadcast.

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      • Reed says:

        At least Cameron was upgraded from the last loser.

        As for the Churchill Bust, it might be back soon.

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      • TheGeneral says:

        They refer in a disingenuous manner to ” Cameron” not quite as nastily as they spit out “Thatcher”. Rapists and murders however are refered to as Mr…….

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  10. GotItAboutRight says:

    Which of these do you think I have heard on the BBC this week;

    a) a BBC presenter who has previously given £200K to Ken Livingstone conducting a review of the papers and giving prominence to a story about one of Boris Johnson’s advisers

    or

    b) a BBC presenter who has previously given £200K to Boris Johnson conducting a review of the papers and giving prominence to a story about one of Ken Livingstone’s advisers. 

    Should the BBC not have a public register to declare donations which its presenters have made to politicians?

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    • Demon1001 says:

      How can a Beboid just give £200,000 to anybody’s campaign?  And they have the chutzpah to complain about the bankers and the rich!

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    • NotaSheep says:

      Sorry I must have missed this one, which BBC presenter are we talking about?

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      • Deborah says:

        Ah…. Google has come up trumps for those of us not in the know…the idiot Chris Evans pledged £200k to the nasty newt.

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        • As I See It says:

          Not to worry Evans will soon recoup that 200k with his part-time Friday job pushing left-wing views at the BBC One Show.

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  11. George R says:

    Another reason for Islam Not BBC (INBBC) to politically indulge Imran KHAN?:-

    “Imran Khan cancels Delhi appearance after learning Salman Rushdie was also invited ”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/imran-khan-cancels-delhi-appearance-after-learning-salman-rushdie-was-also-invited-7567113.html

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    • Demon1001 says:

      And I thought Khan painted himself as a moderate.  He’s as sick as the rest of them.

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    • jarwill101 says:

        Imran thought he was meeting Salmond, the loyal McMuslim.

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  12. George R says:

    MOROCCO.

    More INBBC censorship: ISLAM not mentioned.

    1.) INBBC:

    “Morocco protest after raped Amina Filali kills herself”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-17379721

    2.) ‘Daily Mail’

    “Moroccans demand change to Islamic penal code after girl, 16, kills herself because judge forced her to marry her RAPIST”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2114884/Moroccan-girl-16-kills-judge-forced-marry-man-RAPED-her.html

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    • Phil Ford says:

      A staggering example of clear BBC censorship and bias. You have to wonder at the processes at work in the writing of the BBC story; the clear political intention to exclude all references to Islam, Sharia, etc. At best it’s opaque reporting, at worst it’s wilful misreporting. How can the so-called ‘journalists’ (hah!) at the BBC keep up their grim pretence of ‘impartiality’..? It beggars belief.

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    • Teddy Bear says:

      I note this detail that is included in the BBC article that highlights the mentality of these followers of the ‘religion of peace’. Clearly the BBC prefers to keep its readers ignorant of the Islamic connection.

      Witnesses say her husband (the rapist) became so outraged when she drank the poison he dragged her down the street by her hair – and she died shortly afterwards.

      If coverage of this story is anything like that of the Palestinians I expect there will be another article to show this rapist as the victim when this evil woman killed herself rather than serve him.

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      • Biodegradable says:

        This story was covered here on Spanish TV news. The husband/rapist is an arrogant looking toe rag wearing a Palestinian “kefiyyah” who swears he had no idea why the poor girl should have wanted to take her own life (by drinking rat poison). Perhaps the fact that he raped her then she was forced to marry him to save “the honour” of her family should have given him a clue.

        There was also an interview with the husband/rapist’s mother who alleged that the girls father beat her (the victim) so maybe that’s why she took her own life.

        What a screwed up society they live in!

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        • Teddy Bear says:

          It occured to me that perhaps the reason Iran has cyber-blocked the BBC is because they feel that Islam should be credited for creating these type of beings. They think the BBC is biased against them by not wanting to provide this link, therefore making it appear as if it’s our society taking credit for it.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      BBC Online’s lead paragraph:-

      “Moroccan activists have stepped up pressure to scrap laws that allow rapists to marry their victims – after a 16-year-old girl killed herself.”

      The Mailonline’s lead paragraph:-

      Angry Moroccans are demanding a change to the country’s strict Islamic penal code after a 16-year-old girl killed herself after being forced to marry her rapist.


      “allow”.  “forced”.  Sheesh, if you got into the minds of one of these BBC Islamapologists you could scrub for a week and still feel dirty.

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    • hippiepooter says:

      BBC Online’s lead paragraph:-

      “Moroccan activists have stepped up pressure to scrap laws that allow rapists to marry their victims – after a 16-year-old girl killed herself.”

      The Mailonline’s lead paragraph:-

      Angry Moroccans are demanding a change to the country’s strict Islamic penal code after a 16-year-old girl killed herself after being forced to marry her rapist.


      “allow”.  “forced”.  Sheesh, if you got into the minds of one of these BBC Islamapologists you could scrub for a week and still feel dirty.

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  13. cjhartnett says:

    Here we go!
    1. BBC gets leaked documents regarding the Hillsborough disaster, prior to the full report coming out later in the year.
    2. Thatcher can be mentioned in their own sneering way…that she said or did nothing wrong is not the issue…that she got opinions from Merseysides top cop that imply drink and fans without tickets had some part to play in the carnage IS.
    3. Still though ,it`s leaked it may yet discredit Thatcher and it will bring up the Suns coverage any time soon , I`m sure.
    4.We get at least 20 minutes of it from Martha Kearneys show with the usual support groups with their opinions.
    One whole new confection from the BBC….absolutely NO point in this story yet is there?…half-baked at best?
    Not a bit of it…if it gets Thatch, slates the police-especially ones who are now dead…brings Rupert and Kelvin into things; then damn the torpedoes and full steam ahead.
    Must be some good news from the Tories needing smothering…or some Beeb documentary to puff…for this is not news in any sense.
    Will Leveson look into how the BBC get approved leaks, but Brooks didn`t…shouldn`t the BBC shut their traps until the official inquiry is over?
    Is leaking OK if it helps the Labour Party then?
    And now the BBC have seen confidentail reports that they shouldn`t…any chance of us seeing their Balen report, which they have “seen ” but chosen not to “leak” to those of us who paid for it?
    F666 the BBC!

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    • GotItAboutRight says:

      Yes, the World at One  – or rather the “World as it was in April 1989” – was amazing. It must have been 20-25 minutes devoted to Hillsborough, even dredging up broadcast excerpts from Prime Minister’s Questions 23 years ago.

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    • As I See It says:

      BBC News 24 Hillsborough…blah blah…BBC has learnt…blah blah….leaked document….blah blah….Margaret Thatcher….blah blah.

      Now your BBC starter for ten….

      When is an English football fan not a drunken lout?

      When he is a Liverpool fan.

      Correct.

      What about the Heysel Stadium diaster?

      Pass.

      Who is to blame for the Hillsborough Stadium disaster?

      The Police.

      Not quite the answer I have on my card here….

      The Police and Thatcher.

      I need a little more….

      The Police and Thatcher…..and…..I know this one…..

      Have to rush you…..

      The Police and Thatcher…..and Rupert Murdoch!

      Correct!

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      • RCE says:

        If the police were to blame for Hillsborough how come no Notts Forest fans got hurt?

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    • cjhartnett says:

      Oh, and Carolyn Quinn is dragging the same Hillsborough souffle through onto her PM show.
      She is talking to Andy Burnham…the same little squit who was berated and mocked by the good people of Anfield on the 20th anniversary event back in 2009.
      He wouldn`t give them an enquiry you see.
      So who better to speak on behalf of the 96 victims of the disaster…and who better to be given the keys to the kitchen so he can add Labour niceness to the Beeb souffle; and hopefully get back into power?
      Still…at least we have our own Stars in our Eyes tribute act to Ceausescu on YouTube…wonder if he paid for that wreath himself back then?…

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  14. tiger says:

    The question is was this leaked information obtained by;
    a)deception
    b)theft
    c)corrupt payment or;
    d)public interest (=whistleblowing)

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  15. Bupendra Bhakta says:

    The BBC is very kindly training some of its failing presenters in alternative careers for when the inevitable chop comes. So today they had Gameshow Nicky in at a local stabbing academy doing a bit of supply teeching.

    ‘This is very nerve-wracking’, he says, ‘and I’m used to doing live radio to millions of listeners’.

    Millions of listeners, eh Nicky.  Either you’ve never seen the RAJAR figures or you’re setting these poor children a very bad example by lying through your teeth.  Or maybe it’s a Tony Blair thing – if you lie hard enough for long enough eventually it becomes the truth.

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  16. George R says:

    ISLAM and UK Media.

    Here are two recent articles by Bruce BAWER (in which INBBC is referred to).

    1.)

    “Will There Always Be an England?”

    http://frontpagemag.com/2012/03/07/therell-always-be-an-england/

    2.)

    “U.K. Thought Police Send Man to Prison”

    http://frontpagemag.com/2012/03/14/u-k-thought-police-send-man-to-prison/

    Will INBBC and S.Chakrabarti’s ‘Liberty’ campaign for non-Muslim
    Mr Conway’s freedom?

    Or, does their campaigning only apply to Muslims such as
     Binyam Mohamed?

    ‘ Binyam Mohamed:

     The False Martyr”

     (2009)

    http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/02/binyam_mohamed_the_f.php

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    “With our current immigration and welfare policies, by 2080 we expect everyone in Britain to look like this”

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  19. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The Violence Comes From the Left, Part 4,382:

    Man Pleads Guilty to Threatening Arpaio


    A man described as a President Barack Obama fanatic pleads guilty to threatening to kill Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

    And the guy isn’t even from Arizona. He’s in Tennesse. How’s that hopey-changey stuff workin’ out for ya now, BBC?

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  20. Jane Tracy says:

    Holiday watch at the BBC:Where is Stephanie Flanders the BBCs Economics Editor? No blog since Friday so is she on yet another holiday?

    Or perhaps she is conjuring up a way in which she can try to present the falling petrol prices she forecast for 2012…

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  21. David Preiser (USA) says:

    US President editor Mark Mardell is so convinced that the over-the-top praise of the President from the British Prime Minister is going to help his beloved Obamessiah’s election chances that he’s just whipped up a second blog post about it (Louis R brought up the first one on the first page of this thread), in which he says almost the exact same thing. Mardell even uses the same words and terms. It’s so similar, in fact, that when I read it I at first thought he had just done an edit of the last one.  
     
    Compare and, well, see if you can even find a contrast between the two:  
     
    Cameron praises Obama at lavish state dinner  
     
    and the newest one:  
     
    Cam hearts Bam and now they’re BFFs  
     
    This shows just how much Mardell lives inside the bubble. The only people who are going to be impressed by this – or who think Cameron is an actual conservative – are Mardell’s friends in the US media. Nobody else is going to give a damn, but he seems so convinced that this is election “gold dust” that he made two posts about it.

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  22. Frederick Bloggs says:

    You won’t see this on the BBC 

    http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v20435156e75

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  23. hippiepooter says:

    I wonder if this will get discussed much on the BBC?

    http://www.michaelyon-online.com/more-mass-murders-in-afghanistan.htm

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  24. cjhartnett says:

    Sky News tells me that Camerons trip to the USA  and the sainted Obamas could not have gone any better.
    Maybe this is why the leaked Hillsborough stuff is swirling round the top of the news bulletins from the BBC.
    Therefore, to answer the friends on this site who asked how the BBC would square their worship of Obama with the presence of the hated Cameron…we have our answer.
    Did somebody cut the cheese…and .oh look…a few more women have dodgy breast implants…got to dash!

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The BBC is just hoping that, as Mardell has suggested, Cameron’s priase for Him will somehow convince people in the US that He’s not so bad after all and will re-elect Him. They see the Prime Minister as a useful idiot in this case.

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  25. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here’s yet another in an increasingly lengthy list of Obamessiah gaffes the BBC won’t be telling you about. Next time the BBC leaps to laugh at a misstep by Sarah Palin or slip by Romney or any Republican candidate, remember how they censored news of this:

    Obama Mangles U.S., World History In Energy Speech

    President Obama got a laugh out of a Maryland audience on Thursday when he mocked the Republican Party in a speech, comparing their skepticism of alternative energy to the “Flat Earth Society” in Christopher Columbus’ day and President Rutherford B. Hayes’ apparent dismissal of the telephone. But while Obama thinks the GOP is in need of a science lesson, he may need to bone up on history himself.

    In mocking the GOP, Obama cited an anecdote about Hayes in which, upon using the telephone for the first time, he said, “It’s a great invention, but who would ever want to use one?”

    “That’s why he’s not on Mount Rushmore,” Obama said. “He’s explaining why we can’t do something instead of why we can do something.”

    But Nan Card, curator of manuscripts at the Rutherford B. Hayes Presidential Center in Ohio, told TPM that the nation’s 19th president was being unfairly tagged as a Luddite.

    “He really was the opposite,” she said. “He had the first telephone in the White House. He also had the first typewriter in the White House. Thomas Edison came to the White House as well and displayed the phonograph. Photographing people who came to the White House and visited at dinners and receptions was also very important to him.”

    While often cited, Card said Obama’s cited quote had never been confirmed by contemporary sources and is likely apocryphal. A contemporary newspaper account of his first experience with telephone in 1877 from the Providence Journal records a smiling Hayes repeatedly responding to the voice on the other line with the phrase, “That is wonderful.”

    Even left-wing pundits are calling the President out on this one. He also likened those who oppose His Green boondoggles to the “Flat Earth Society” in Columbus’ day. Which also shows His total ignorance of history. His speechwriters are little more than over-credentialled children who hate their country and look down on anyone who disagrees with them, and He doesn’t even know enough to fix glaring factual errors in His own speeches. I guess this is yet another “nuance of (H)is finely-tuned brain”.

    The Beeboids laughed a mile a minute when George Bush made a mistake, and tweet derisively when Sarah Palin mangles a word, but when the President mangles US history, they’re silent.

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  26. john says:

    OFSTED
    Pity the poor children

    Sir Michel Wilshaw (OFSTED) and Mary Bousted (Gen.Sec. ATL) have been running around the TV studios all day.
    The BBC was the only one to allow the latter an unfettered rant.

    Not convinced that the report finding us in 23rd place on the Littiwerey Table had anything to do with anything, she then had the brass neck to site that there had been an 84% increase in success at level 4 and that had everything to do with everything.

    This is how the left work, ergo the BBC, ignore reality and come out with fantastic irrelevancy. (See Brown & Balls 2 X Table).

    The BBC never question the content of a Union Official’s diatribe, so virtuously she later waltzed into SKY News but seemed agahst when they asked her about what parents would think of our 23rd standing and not letting off fireworks celebrating level 4.
    Bet she wishes she never left the comfort of the BBC’s green room.

    Wurld Klazz Brordkaztor ?
    My Arse !

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  27. Pounce says:

    The bBC, the Falkland Islands and half the story
    Argentina threatens legal action over Falklands oil
    Argentina says it will take legal action against companies involved in oil exploration in the Falkland Islands, which it claims. Foreign minister Hector Timmerman said oil development in Falklands waters was “illegal”. He warned that any companies providing support to British prospectors could also face sanctions. In response, the UK government said it supported the right of the islanders to develop their oil resources.
    OK, reading that, do you get the impression that the bBC is being quite neutral on the subject. I did, then I had a butchers at other news outlets and I was surprised to hear that British Foreign Office minister Jeremy Browne is currently in Chile at the moment (which the bBC doesn’t mention) and when questioned on the above statement he replied:
    “We aren’t looking to increase the rhetoric of conflict with Argentina. We believe in peaceful and friendly relations. We don’t believe that an economic blockade of the Falklands is the way to resolve this.”
    Yet the British viewpoint given by the bBC is the UK is only concerned about Oil. But there’s more.

    Did you know that Argentina is getting sued in the courts by Spanish Oil firm Repsol for how Argentina requisitioned 4 of its oils fields. And going back to Jeremy Brownes visit to Chile, their stance is totally at odds with the Argentine one. Here is the al Jazeera take on things and one I have to admit is a lot clearer than any bBC article on the subject.

    Yet for some strange the bBC hasn’t mentioned any of this, which if they did would paint a totally different picture to the one they paint.

    The bBC the traitors in our midst.

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  28. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The only person who was at the infamous Hillsborough match the BBC News Channel could find was adamant that blaming drunken Liverpool fans showing up without a ticket was nonsense. “Thousands” of Liverpool fans had tickets, he says.  Is that really the best you can do, BBC?

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    • Demon1001 says:

      The trouble is that the ones who were killed were definitely the innocent ones with tickets who had got in early which is why they were at the front.  As always the innocent seem to be the ones to suffer.

      The police made mistakes, they should have guessed that opening the gates would lead to a stampede.  The match kick-off could have been delayed – I had been to a cup match elsewhere a year or two before this where the kick-off was delayed due to getting the crush of fans in, so it wouldn’t have been a new idea. 

      However, it was the ones trying to get in and arriving late who caused the police to make that fateful decision.  I remember reading at the time that the police were frightened that a disaster was about to happen in the narrow lanes outside the ground as they suddenly felt overwhelmed at the sudden increase in the numbers of people with more arriving all the time.  Many years later when Liverpool played a European Final in Istanbul (all ticket) hundreds travelled all that way and steamed through a crowd of their fellow supporters, robbed them of their tickets (including children), beating some up as well. 

      To completely absolve the fans at Hillsborough was due to the government of the day (Mrs T) backing down to a campaign by a pressure group to blame the government.  Not much of an Iron Lady on this one.  The argument was that the police had to get all the blame or all football fans would stop voting Conservative, as if anyone other than the police was to blame it was a Tory cover-up.  The government duly launched an enquiry and the chirman was left in no doubt that the findings had to blame the police in toto.

      The other people to share the blame were other previous football hooligans who had created the need for fences to be put up in the first place.  I’ve always been a football fan but never a hooligan as that’s not what football supporting is about.  Also, the fences were built with design flaws – no-one had given a thought as to what would happen if there was a need to get fans on the pitch in a case of crushing or fire (like at Bradford).   

      To sum up, no one group was to blame but, as in many of these disasters, a combination of factors led to the awful and tragic conclusion.  Many groups shared the blame but it wasn’t just the police.  And by just blaming the police is not bringing justice to the 96.

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      • fred bloggs says:

        Like your reasoning, I would like to add my suggestion for Taylor needing a good scapegoat.  At that point in time, due to the Heysal disaster, english football was still under an indefinite ban.   Any major blame of the fans could have keep us out longer and thus deprived the football clubs of those very profitable european games.

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        • Span Ows says:

          Fred and Demon, yes, good points and that is what everyone outside generally believes; the problem is that the Liverpool fans and all the groups REFUSE to accept ANY blame. 

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      • RCE says:

        You’re being too generous there, Demon et al. The police were faced with a dangerous situation after thousands of Liverpudlians without tickets turned up late after drinking in the pubs until the last minute, and deliberately caused a crush at the gates to pressure the police into letting them in. Saying that the police were partially to blame because they didn’t then deal with this is nonsensical; the chain of events got to a tipping point that could not have been avoided by anything the police did.

        As I said on an earlier page, if the police were at fault how come there was no similar problem at the Forest end?

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    • As I See It says:

      The BBC bias issue here – as so often – is that a certain group’s wrong-headed views are given undue credence because that sentimentalised minority are in some way considered too precious (or too scary) to be condradicted.

      Calmdown, calmdown!

      I think this is known as BBC-relativism: If enough people have got an idiot view and we like it then it must be true.

      Stir in compensation culture. As the old lawyer’s tribal saying goes ‘A drunk ticketless Liverpudlian, him no pay no compo’

      Add to that a BBC mindset with default settings for blame the Police/Thatcher/The Sun.

      I have nothing against people from Liverpool. It’s just that (unlike the BBC) I don’t feel I have to appear to be massively in their favour.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        As I See It, I would only add that another BBC reflexive position is that if some people’s feelings would be hurt by a particular viewpoint, then that viewpoint isn’t acceptable. Conservatives, white Christians, and Jews not included, of course.

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  29. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Now that Plaid Cymru has elected a nationalist…sorry…republican Socialist as leader who, Huw Edwards tells us, wants “real independence” for Wales, I’d love to see the BBC have a special feature on exactly how a Socialist country whose number one employer is the public sector will survive. They haven’t done it with Scotland yet, we’re just expected to take Salmond’s word for it, so I won’t hold my breath.

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  30. George R says:

    Milan synagogue: more INBBC routine censorship of Islam.

    2 contrasting reports:

    1.) ‘Jihadwatch’:

    Two Misunderstanders of Islam arrested for “jihad mission” to blow up Italian synagogue

    2.) INBBC:

    “Italy arrests man over Milan synagogue ‘plot'”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17381518

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    • RCE says:

      So it seems that ‘men’ are now in cahoots with ‘women’. This non-value-judgement reportage can be a little dry, I find…

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    • Span Ows says:

      Claudio Galzerano, head of Italy’s police anti-terrorism unit, told BBC News that the operation was a “result of monitoring of the internet that we’ve been doing for a while on a radical Islamic website”.

      “If a normal person had done this, I would be worried,” he said. “If a jihadist does it, I’m a hundred times more worried.”

      Surprised the BBC online editors allowed these quotes through – they will probably disappear as the day shift move in and edit.

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  31. David Preiser (USA) says:

    What an odd coincidence that the next story on the News Channel is about the wonders of government-subsidized theatre.

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  32. Teddy Bear says:

    A story from a few days ago involved a woman who works for the UN, who tweeted the  picture of a bloodies injured Palestinian child and blames Israel for killing this child in one of their recent air strikes.

    However it turns out this was a Reuters picture of a child from 2006, and she had sustained injuries after falling off a swing.

    Honest Reporting ran this story and tells us
    Khulood Badawi happens to work for the OCHA – the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs where, according to a UN Contact List, she works as an Information and Media Coordinator.

    A Google search reveals that Badawi has a history of activism in a range of pro-Palestinian non-governmental organizations, some of them radical and politicized. While this background may not in itself disqualify her from a career with the UN, it is absolutely unacceptable that a UN employee working specifically on dissemination of information to the media and public tweets malicious and false information to libel Israel.

    We know how the BBC like to use medical sources and UN staff to validate Palestinian claims, just bear this story in mind when they do.
    Unsurprisingly there’s no mention of this story on the BBC website, and I’ll make a bet that there never will be.

    Honest Reporting are now running a petition to the UN to have their representative dismissed, especially as she hasn’t even apologised for her actions. You can sign it here
    We demand the dismissal of Khulood Badawi

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Honest Reporting should also be speaking out against the BBC for reporting this boy’s death along with the actual casualties caused by Israel’s assault, even though they knew it was questionable. Sometimes the BBC does report unsubstantiated rumors, when it suits their agenda.

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      • Teddy Bear says:

        Report – and contribute to unsubstantiated rumours – especially where Israel is concerned. There’s enough BBC/Pallywood links out there that show it. 

        One of the best known examples is the Mohammed Al-Dura ‘shooting’. In 2007 the BBC ran an article to show that there was a dispute involving the authenticity of the original account, but worded the article to make it appear that it was only an attempt to get Israel off the hook. 

        They never did an article on the final outcome of the findings that showed it was a set-up by the Palestinians with the complicity of the media.

        Truth for the BBC is what they can get away with generating to suit their agenda. 

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  33. As I See It says:

    The BBC : Suspend their World Visas!

    I’m not talking about those under-the-radar salary enhancing globe-trotting junckets for the fat few considered star talent. Or indeed the many instances of the Beeb crew rocking up mob-handed to the opening of an envelope – so long as it’s in passport-necessary trendy sunnier climes.

    Nor am I questioning here the BBC World Service; heaven knows what they might be telling the world in their foreign language services!

    What I have in mind here is the increasing tendency of the BBC to report as if it were some elevated sanctimonious branch of the UN.

    Never overly keen on that pesky first ‘B’ in its title the Corporation seems to be developing a mindset where concepts of balance and fair reporting of opinion – and of course political viewpoints – have to be refered over and beyond the heads of the licence paying British base – to some greater World view.

    No longer is it deemed sufficient to reflect a range of views found within these isles – which was as I understood it – the licence funded remit.

    This comes into play in certain political debates. For instance, nowadays it is supposedly important to give voice to Argentinian views on the future of the Falklands to balance those of the British public and those of the Falkland Islanders. A useful dabating device for one side of the argument, you my feel. One that may tip in a different direction a debate that has, by and large, had some degree of unanimity of view (certainly a majority) for thirty years.

    The effect of this new debating tool is felt in various areas from capital punishment to green taxes. Though it tends to be patchily employed and noticably usually on the side of the left.

    As BBC commentators never cease to point out, the UK no longer has so much clout in the world. And yet the British-based Beeb appear to feel entitled to elevate themselves to some form of opinion leading internationalist elite.

    With the BBC the tendency now goes beyond simplistic journalistic grandstanding, such as over Syria: “Something must be done!”

    Now I have no desire to go out and colonise the world. Neither do I want the rest of the world to come here and colonise me.

    How many times do I now hear British polititians fall back on a cliche such as ‘…we can’t / we must do something about this because of European/ International Law’ (As a Beeb commentator nods sagely and unquestioningly in complicit agreement).

    For the BBC British self-interest seems to be the dirtiest word.

    Suspend their World Visas!

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    • wild says:

      Wherever you send BBC reporters you know what what they are going to say, what assumptions they will make, what conclusions they will draw. They are going to tell you what a Guardian reading Left Liberal Leftist believes.    
         
      So instead of paying (for example 55 North American) BBC overseas reporters to tell us all about their political beliefs, they could spend the millions they take from the taxpayer to fund these overseas trips on some poor people, in Salford for example.     
         
      Better still, there could be an arrangement that people who are struggling to pay their bills only have to pay for overseas trips for middle class BBC Leftists if they believe they are going to learn more about the world from them than they would if they stuck their head up a cows behind.

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  34. sue says:

    BBC World service. “This is Outlook with Matthew Bannister” Valentine’s Day special.
    A puffed up overstated tale of victimhood about a Palestinian couple who were “not allowed to meet.”    Sentimental, infantile and creepy, all under the looming shadow of the ogre (Israel) nudge-nudge know-what-we-mean.

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  35. George R says:

    IRAN.

    Will this make INBBC less politically hostile towards Israel?:-

    “BBC Persian Service Suffers Sophisticated Cyber Attack”

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1112494664/bbc-persian-service-suffers-sophisticated-cyber-attack/

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  36. cjhartnett says:

    Oh Lordy!
    Tried to get Jonathan Sacks Thought for the Day, but ended up on the hagoigraphic piece on the Smiths and the great Morrissey!
    Typical adolescent, patronising guff from the BBCs prep school rebels”…northern and oh-so-fey!
    Well my proud boast in the light of this crap is that I am proud to say that I know a bloke who used to bully Morrissey at school, so here`s my take.
    1. No mention of National Front Disco, Bengali in Platforms and other decidedly “racist” songs by Mozza and his band…no mention of his National Front stage with Suedehead and the controversioal stage shows at that time….I woinder why then?
    2. Instead we get his “Queen in Dead” stuff…Falklands, hating the Royals and Meat is Murder twaddle…talk about selecting your history!

    Bragg, Morrissey…the BBCs choice of safe leftie rebels who talk the revolution in the stables as Sarah and Justin pop by to be saddled up!
    All together now…
    #Hang the Justins, hang the Sarahs, hang the Dimblebys and the Paxmans.
    Hang the Naughties and the Humphrys…hang the DG
    Hand the DG…hang the DG…(to fade)#

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    • RCE says:

      Johnny Marr is even worse. I’ve never known him open his gob without mentioning Thatcher.

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    • As I See It says:

      …northern and oh-so-fey!

      How could aspiring Beeboids not have fallen for Morrissey back in the day? He’s Billy Elliot grown up!

      I’m with a tad earlier generation that remembers Lucky Jim in power (sort of) and the IMF come a-knocking.

      I vote for the more challenging less predictable views of a Mark E Smith or Johnny Lyddon to enhance my mood music and thoughts for the day!

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      • cjhartnett says:

        Agree entirely!
        Johnny Rotten talks a good game and liked Mark E Smiths spaced out views about John Peel.
        As for Marr, Weller etc-when they tell Cameron that he`s “not allowed” to like their music, let`s hope that he can elect for refunds from said lefties if he returns their CDs c/o the Guardian

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    • GotItAboutRight says:

      The bit about The Smiths was only slightly less indulgent than when a few weeks ago Evan Davis spoke to someone from the group Devo about his views on “Devo Max” for Scotland. The sort of thing which might be amusing if you read it in Viz but which on a BBC news programme is just patronising and embarrassing.

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      • As I See It says:

        What next? Soon we’ll be asking Bono and that bloke from the Boomtown Rats to shape our foreign aid policy.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Jeremey Vine never misses an opportunity to show his love for the Smiths, either.

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  37. George R says:

     Mass Immigration & Overcrowded Schools: CENSORED by BBC-NUJ.

    In this long article, the BBC-NUJ deliberately indulges in political censorship by totally obliterating any reference to the direct impact of MASS IMMIGRATION by the Labour Government on overcrowding in UK schools.

    BBC-NUJ censored report:-
    “Primary schools to rise to 1,000 pupils in places shortage”

    By Sean Coughlan

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17273218


    In contrast, some honest reporting from the ‘Daily Mail:-

    “Timebomb under our primary schools: How uncontrolled immigration has created primaries with 1,000 pupils and forced children to eat lunch in shifts.”

    By Tom Rawstorne

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2115711/Timebomb-primary-schools-How-uncontrolled-immigration-created-primaries-1-000-pupils-forced-children-eat-lunch-shifts.html#ixzz1pHJ80euS



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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The problem is that the Beeboids don’t believe it was an actual Labour policy. Even though they know about Neather, they just choose not to believe it. So they don’t feel they need to ever mention it.

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  38. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ blandly notes the resignation of Rowan WILLIAMS:  
     
    “Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams to stand down”  
     
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17399403
     
     
     
    In contrast, Leo McKINSTRY had this (Dec 2010):  
     
    “WHY DOES DR ROWAN WILLIAMS NEVER STAND UP FOR CHRISTIANITY?”  
     
    http://www.express.co.uk/ourcomments/view/219520/Leo-McKinstry  

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  39. Louis Robinson says:

    Mark Mardell is great! I LOVE Mark Mardell. A monument to self-delusion. I think he could even convince himself that the “Archers” is classical drama. His latest offering is evidence that he loves to tell himself happy things.
    He coos over Mr. Cameron’s endorsement of his hero – the man newly named by Joe Biden as “Obama – Man of Steel”:
    “He (Obama) has pressed the reset button on the moral authority of the entire free world… and has found a new voice for America with the Arab people.”
    A few years ago the President caused ocean levels to fall simply by his presence, now in 2012 he brings peace to reign down upon all. Except it doesn’t.  
    Mardell adds: “But it (the PM’s visit) also carries a message home to swing voters and to Liberal Democratic voters that Dave the right-winger is a big fan of a man who is still a liberal icon.
    (Note: to Mardell, “Dave” is not a right-winger)
    Mardell continues: “Cameron’s words also tell voters at home that British Conservatives have nothing to do with the type of American Conservatives who call Obama a socialist and go on about gay marriage”.
    Giveaway clue to what Mardell really thinks of American conservatives: “go on about”. As used in the phrase “don’t go on about that crap”. Interesting use of words.
    Mark’s conclusion? “This state dinner brought a glitter that is electoral gold dust for both leaders”. That’s OK then. Let’s just take the election result for granted and get on with life. 
    And so to bed. Mark in his jimjams, a teddy by his side, a cup of Horlicks on the bedside table and for reading, the 1949 classic “Noddy Goes to Toyland” clutched in his hot little hand. Goodnight, Mark. Good night.

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  40. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Here’s a heads-up about some new White House talking points to watch out for coming from the mouths of Beeboids in the near future. The White House has sent out a new campaign fundraising letter, offering a raffle – in exchange for a donation of $3 or more – to win a chance to attend some dinner event in the same room as the President. I quote the key bits:


    The guy who just won the next seat at dinner with President Obama is a Republican.

    Or, rather, he was.

    He’s from Ohio — one of all too many states where Tea Party extremism has completely seized the Republican Party.

    One of all too few states, I’d say. But note the term “extremism”. This is the White House demonizing millions of people, and you can expect the BBC to pick that up.


    But when the Tea Party agenda — the same one that Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum have been fighting to take to the White House — personally affected Jim, it shook him into action.

    Romney and Santorum fighting for the Tea Party agenda? If only. Romney would be leading by a mile if that were true. Santorum is fighting only for the Christian conservative agenda, and nothing more.

    In any case, if you hear a BBC reporter talk about Romney fighting for the Tea Party agenda, or words to that effect, you’ll know where they got it from: White House rhetoric. Nobody in their right minds would say such a thing.

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  41. Pounce says:

    The bBC, the rise of dog fighting in the Uk and half the story.
    Public dog fights in Birmingham concerns city council
    Dog-fighting in public open spaces in Birmingham is a major cause for concern, according to a council report on dangerous dogs.The city council said there was a problem with tackling the issue because those responsible “disperse quickly once the police arrive”.An RSPCA spokesman said gangs often “settle scores by fighting their dogs”.The charity receives about 40 dog-fighting complaints each year, the report added. It also noted that 258 “dangerously out of control” dogs were seized by police in the city between 2008 and 2011, with a further 27 prohibited breeds seized.
    So the bBC reports on the odious practice of dog fighting, but other than Birmingham the bBC leaves the reader in the dark about just who is behind this vile so called sport. Here’s what the bBC isn’t telling you, something I should add they themmselves reported 2 years ago:
    Inside the world of dog-fighting
    It was the sound of dogs barking and whimpering that first attracted PC Paul Foster to the back of an old kitchen showroom in inner city Birmingham.As he got closer he heard voices and men cheering. 
    What police found in Alum Rock a mainly Pakistani inner-city suburb, was an unexpected and disturbing crime scene. 
    “The first thing I notice was the black pit bull terrier, little fur, covered in blood in a bad way,” PC Rogers told BBC Radio 4’s The Report. Twenty-six men were eventually convicted two years ago for taking part in the largest illegal dog-fight uncovered in the UK. 
    The RSPCA had long regarded dog-fighting as the preserve of white working class men attending fights in the countryside. What the fight in Alum Rock revealed was the first glimpse of organised dog fighting in the Asian community taking place in urban surroundings and tens of thousands of pounds gambled on the result. Since then subsequent raids have revealed that dog-fighting has become a problem in some sections of ths asian community 

    Ian Briggs, chief inspector of the RSPCA’s Special Operations Unit said dog-fighting is up 400% in the past three years in the UK. 

    “Out of all the work we do 98% is Asian”.

    The bbC, themselves reported the above. Yet in their latest sop to allah, they leave out that very salient fact. ANybody else would be asking the question “I thought they were forbidden to go near dogs, which is why they make a huge song and dance about police sniffer dogs” 

    but when it comes to watching dogs fight to the death, well that’s alright

    The bBC, the traitors in our Midst.

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  42. Teddy Bear says:

    The story today from Gaza shows the Palestinians continuing to fire rockets at Israel, which has had to keep schools closed in the area again. This time Israel has refrained from counter attacks at the request of the Egyptians, to allow the ‘ceasefire’ to take effect.

    The only article running currently on the BBC Mid-East webpage is from yesterday which continues to portray both sides involved in attacks
    Israeli strikes and militant rockets test Gaza truce
    Clearly it’s not news for the BBC when it’s only ‘poor victim’ Palestinians attacking Israel.

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