A Biased BBC who tuned in to “Any Answers” writes to me with this comment..
“There was a disgraceful intervention by Jonathan Dimbleby in todays Any Answers. Only minutes after saying that the cultural/racial issues of the Rochdale paedophile trials are properly discussed on the programme and there was no attempt not to discuss the real issues he interrupted one contributor who wanted to discuss how the teachings of islam and the example of Mohamed was unhelpful as a role model. Mr Dimbleby told the contributor that he could not say that as someone might be offended. Is this allowing open and honest discussion?”
I have to say that I very rarely endure Any Questions or Any Answers but for those courageous souls who do tune in, wonder if you have comment to make on the above?
Sounds like the Swedish media is similar to the BBC:
sadly …… it is
Well I’m quite sure that Dimbleby would have no qualms about a full and frank discussion of Catholicism and paedophilia. I am sick to death of the double standards that infect our media and politicians and the apathy of my fellow countryman more concerned with consumerism rather than citizenship.
Just listened to Trevor Phillips on Marr (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18049654) saying on the subject of not investigating these abuses because of ‘cultural’ sensitivities that it would be…’a national scandal that we need to deal with urgently.’
Whilst he has managed to get his comments on Marr the website has hidden them away in the UK section, but you have to go to the ‘England’ part, then in the North West section ….and then look for it tucked away in the sub section of ‘Manchester’.
Guess they don’t really want you to see that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18050192
Ironically Marr was on this morning at 0900 on R4 discussing Franco and his reputation…..apparently far too good(?).
Why was it so good?
Because he had control of the media and the education system which allowed him to peddle his political views and hide his atrocities.
Hmmmm….ring a bell? How is it that after 13 years of Labour disaster and corruption the BBC still blames Thatcher? How is it those 13 years seem to have been wiped from the BBC history books?
Year zero began in May 2010…and it is all downhill since then apparently.
Thank God the teachers aren’t all lefty Labour supporters…..the 60% of Labour members who are apparently teachers are clearly just an aberration.
Antonio Gramsci’s “long march through the institutions” is alive and well.
I listen to Any Questions and Any Answers regularly and heard the section in question. Whilst I agree that Dimbleby responds to callers in different ways depending upon their political outlook, in this case the caller started to say some quite offensive stuff with regard to Islam. I thought that the caller could have been from the EDL or BNP, and I imagine that what he said on air was not what he said he would say when talking to researchers beforehand. The way that the Rochdale case is being handled by the media is likely to make things worse not better (ie by constantly interviewing bien pensants who deny any link to race, culture, religion etc), but the approach to this is not to smear all muslims or say offensive things about Mohammed etc. A more nuanced approach is best.
any answers … are you surprised 😀
“not to say offensive things about moh?.”
why not?, according to islamic sources these “offensive things” are the truth
mandated, the root of this problem.
facts/truth … remember them.
while you have that “crock”, and that so called debate programmes, yesterday morning, where you have, Mo,(MUSLIM- but don t mention islam) Shafiq and MUSLIM-Pac, along with Nikki (PBUH) Campbell, with his obfuscation excuse book … it is insane, why not get the MUSLIM council of britain, and the MUSLIM head of bbc religion, together so they can all discuss ……. MEN – ASIANS – or even paedostanis ?????? … deliberately missing the enormous burkha d elephant in the room.
the time for nuance has passed, i think that islams child “benefits” the mandated ideology behind them, need hard and harsh discussion, and harder legislation – openly with no omissions.
Shafiq, himself has repeatedly, deliberately deviated away from islam in many interviews, aided by the likes of el bbc.
it is an absurd, deceitful and disgraceful situation,
It’s not only in Britain where this sort of thing happens, because the multiple gang rapes of indigenous girls by Muslims is replicated in every country with a large islamic population, not always children, (more to do with individual child protection services), but the pattern identical, ie. not muslim so fair game
There is a rape epidemic in Oslo. The vast majority of the perpetrators are Muslim, the vast majority of the victims are Norwegian Girls. rape epidemic in Malmö. The vast majority of the perpetrators are Muslim, the vast majority of the victims are Swedish girls. rape epidemic in Copenhagen. The vast majority of the perpetrators are Muslim, the vast majority of the victims are Danish girls. rape epidemic in Sydney. (yes good old Aus!), The vast majority of the perpetrators are Muslims, the vast majority of the victims are you guessed it … Australian girls,
i ve said it before, the ONLY parameters should be fact/truth.
http://youtu.be/qHX80sPqd4c
Offensive to some?….or may be offensive…but was it the plain unvarnished truth?
The truth will set you free, offend or please.
No-one should be prevented from telling the truth.
Didn’t hear it so not qualified to say.
Yes absolutely correct. The guy in question came across as a frother and straight out accused Mo of being a rapist. When he first came on I thought he must be a plant to make the likes of the BNP seem simple minded but maybe not a plant more of a vegetable?
Is it too late for nuance? No it’s not. Just follow the BBC example of constant reassurance. ‘There there. It’s OK. The nasty muslim doesn’t exist. It’s only a wicked BNP bedtime story. Turn over and present the other cheeks dear listener. Now bite that pillow.’
“came across as a frother and straight out accused Mo of being a rapist”.
HELLO! … According to ISLAMIC sources, moh was a rapist.
so a “frother” for telling the truth?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/may/11/far-right-rochdale-sex-case
fiyaz mughal
“This is dangerous for community relations. There’s lots of discussion about ‘Muslim paedos’, like saying the prophet married a young girl.
All of this disgusting talk is adding to the poison against Muslims”
According to ISLAMIC sources,
moh was a rapist, a child rapist, raped his child bride and a lot more than that.
So maybe Fiyaz Mughal, instead of bleating and rushing to set up a phoneline about islamophobia, should set up a new helpline instituting comprehensive programs in mosques and madrassas to teach against the beliefs and attitudes that lead to this kind of behaviour with such increasing frequency among Muslim men in Britain. or maybe your a “frother” for thinking like that.
…. better to not say anything eh!
Hello to you too. Nice to meet you.
But what you say is irrelevant. Its how the guy came across not whether or not Mo was a rapist/paedo or Mexican Hat Juggler.
The message is lost in the reaction to the mode which is counter productive. If you want the message that Islam gets its followers all hot under the collar for teenage white girls you have to be alot more subtle that screaming RAPIST at the top of your voice.
The BBC gives multiple lessons in subtle subverstion and subliminal messaging. Butt fuck ’em back the same way.
nonsense … how he comes across to you, maybe, (it is after all, the el beeb reaction that illicits the thread, which rather proves the, or maybe his point).
However, that aside, you ll have to try your subliminal messaging won t you 😀 , you know in the the minute or so that you would get, (after the usual inquisition). :-D.
mind you 😀 … don t tell the truth, or
you might get lost in all your bnp vegetation :-D.
Nice to see how the bBC hasn’t bothered to inform the unclean about the mass rape in Sweden.
Have just been reading about this, don’t forget though, Rochdale isn’t about race, so I guess we can’t compare or link them…
Or Loverboys in Holland…
The Dimbleby boys are just Jedward for the likes of Stephen Fry type pretentious old fools.
Dimbleby minor certainly would not count himself as “privately-educated” for the benefit of Carswells commenting that the panel were 60% , the same.
And that the black leftie there was proud to have been to a catholic private school certainly marked him down as letting the cause down I`m sure.
The BBC is just hospital radio with no off switch…musak through its own tannoys to itself…as commissioned by the psychiatric service users, who always seem to clear out the canteen and sweet trolley before the rest of us ever get into our dressing gowns and slippers for the slow shuffle to hell.
No-ain`t necessarily so, you Beeb b****s!
I heard this on Any Questions and meant to write a comment about it but forgot.
The caller said that it wasn’t an Asian problem but all to do with Islam: the prophet was held up as a most perfect man and it was the job of a Muslim man to emulate him in every aspect of his life. And unfortunately, Mohammed was a rapist.
Dimbleby pounced and said that there is a wide range of views about all religious leaders and teachers and to take it like that does not help the issue…and may cause a great deal of unnecessary pain.
I expect he is right on the latter point – not that causing pain stops the Beeboid Corporation going to town about Catholic priest paedophiles which I am sure is very painful for many decent Catholics leading good and responsible lives. However, to say that there are all sorts of views about all religious leaders…doesn’t address the point. And for that matter, I have never heard it said that Jesus Christ was a rapist. Whether it is a fact or not is more to the point. I don’t know whether it is or not as I am not knowledgeable about Islam and have no inclination to study it.
Here is the link – it’s at 27mins 40 secs to 29 45:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b01hdnqx
PS: Also meant to mention before that at 24mins 44secs, Dimbleby read out an e-mail which accused the panel of being gutless about Pakistani paedophiles and pointedly added that the internet gets around BBC censorship to which Dimbleby made a little speech ending with “It’s a free world… your free view.”
Exactly, what was cowardly Dimbleby really up to again if he wasn’t being absolutely “gutless” as fuck himself?! Hilarious… rich isn’t the word!
Stuff gutless Al-Beeb’s constant ‘sensitivities’ excuse! We’re sick of it, it doesn’t wash and never will.
The Catholic church should certainly be ashamed of the paedophile priest scandal. It is, however, entitled to be proud of the thousands of charity instituations run by Jesuits in the poorer parts of the world. This is never mentioned.
Does Islam do this? Maybe it does, but I certainly haven’t heard about it.
“instituations”
institutions
There are Muslim charities I believe that they work mostly in the Muslim parts of countries with a largeMuslimpopulation.
Yes, I was thinking of elsewhere.
‘Dimbleby pounced and said that there is a wide range of views about all religious leaders and teachers…’ Funny, don’t remember that being said in any one of the countless BBC reports/discussions on Catholic child abuse.
I think the problem lies with the sheer contempt for women that infests many of the more backward tribal areas of Pakistan and of course Afghanistan. In those societies women seem to be regarded as less than human – witness the way they are denied education, and how they are seen as property, to be used and abused at will (“honour” killings, acid attacks, beatings for failing to bear male children). I think we have to see the sex gang grooming phenomenon as a product of certain backward cultures. I also believe race is inherent in these crimes – a racism which regards the females who fall prey to the gangs as the property of white men. Thus is violating these white girls the perpetrators are taking revenge on the white man (I use “man” in the sense of male person) for Empire and/or whatever other reason. The girls are trophies, the white man’s property defiled.
Daphne, I recommend you get clued up on how Islam ( a religion, not a culture or nationality) mandates tht women are treated. It’s the religion of Islam that’s the common theme. If you will read a book I recommend about the issue I’ll read one that you think I ought to read.
Try ” a politically incorrect guide to islam” by Robert Spencer.
Don’t try asking your local immam for a copy!
Last week I noticed a video on YouTube by an American anti-Muslim crusader called Anne Barnhardt – out of curiosity I had a look at it (it’s one of several) and showed her giving a talk in Colorado about Islam and misogyny, including graphic footage of fgm. It was very troubling indeed, but I find it difficult to square some of what was shown with the fact that many Muslim women are well-educated and aspirational, and fgm is not practised everywhere in the Muslim world. Having said that, I am familiar with the appalling Sydney gang rape case referred to in a post above, and the feral racist males involved were not from the backward areas of Pakistan or Afghanistan, but from Lebanon. The msm (including the Beeb-like ABC and lefty feminists) tried to obscure the situation, and rightwing columnist Janet Albrechtson was excoriated by those types when she told it like it was.
Yes;
Ann BARNHARDT’s site:
http://barnhardt.biz/
Daphne, please read the book I have mentioned above. It may answer some of the root causes of the abuse of females, and many other not so nice aspects of the religion of peace.
Actually It horrifies me, and the term “not so nice ” is quite an understatement.
May I also recommend:
the retreat of reason by anthony browne
and “you cant read this book” by nick cohen as a follow up.
I took my 14 year old daughter to the opticians over the weekend. The “technician/sales person” who was to check her prescription was a young Asian male. I just couldn’t let her into a darkened room with him alone.
Maybe I was a little paranoid after recent stories in the media, but the kids attitude just seemed to exuded contempt towards us. I just could not bring myself to trust him alone, behind a closed door with one of my children.
Perhaps, as the BBC and Guardian keep reminding us, the majority of people from a certain culture are decent and trustworthy and we are just inherently racist for believing any different. So be it. Until there is full, open, honest and above all balanced debate from all sides on this matter I prefer to err on the side of caution.
I did brace myself and listened to Any Questions. Of course it was the usual meme, “these men were criminals and shouldn’t be connected to any religion.” “95% of paedophiles are white.” etc etc.
I think the bloke who phoned in later was really just over reacting to the endless pc bollocks we’ve had to swallow regarding the religion of peace.
Generally speaking it isn’t the daughters of Gerald and Daphne that are being groomed and gang raped.
And I’m afraid that Gerald and Daphne don’t give a tinker’s toss about the white working class. Just so long as they obediently trot down to the polling booth and vote Labour.
Everyone knows what’s behind this appalling plague of child abuse: the roots of these abusive mindsets stem from the strict and conservative tenets of Islam and certain aspects of its culture that are indissolubly linked with male dominance, subhuman treatment of women and procreative deviation stemming from sexual frustration; this type of abuse has sadly been happening for many many years. The BBC are running around like headless chickens over this issue, panicking over the worrying surge in new cases coming to light – but the game’s up; their craven cover-ups and mealy-mouthed debates have alerted the populace to their Islamic subservience and obsequiousness.
The self-censorship that we see from the MSM and the politicians has quite rightly appalled the populace. We must all do our utmost to continue highlighting this awful BBC and left wing bias if only for the poor victims of these horrific monsters. The fight back begins!
Merlin, I cant agree sadly. The populace doen’t recognise yet the extent of the cover-ups. One day they may do, but as yet us guys on here protesting doesn’t get enough enough publicity to the average guy in the street.
Theres a long way to go to bring this up to the notice of enough people.
I think you’re right perhaps. We can but hope that they open their eyes!
Can not these people be told they will be deported back to Pakistan after serving their sentence? Send the message back to all their inbred cousins that it doesn’t wash around here? Pakistan is not in the EU, yet, as I understand it, though no doubt Clegg or Cameron have them on their list after Turkey.
Deported? Good luck getting the human rights crowd to agree with that.
It’s just such a shame that Dez/Scott, David Gregory or Jim Dandy aren’t around to explain to us all how the Beeb have got their coverage of this one about right…
Oh, they’re here alright mate. They just type under a number of aliases 🙂
Oh I cant believe that?…surely not! lol
thats a non-cameron lol
Off Topic: Breaking News – Muslim from Cumbria found guilty of running brothel where underaged girls were abused. BUT WHY ISN’T THIS HEADLINE NEWS??????
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-18056504
another strand.
“Youngest victim says her complaints against Miah were ignored by police,”
ITV News, May 14
link
http://www.itv.com/news/border/update/2012-05-14/victim-tells-court-her-complaints-against-miah-were-ignored/
I have a feeling that Hilary Mantel will be a regular guest on the BBC for a while, and perhaps a Question Time panellist.
Hilary Mantel: Catholic Church is not for respectable people
Thought For The Day slot coming right up!
Time for J Dimbleby to be sacked. He imposes his own views on the programme and interrupts any speaker whose views he dislikes or wishes to suppress. I once phoned in to Any Answers about the situation in the Middle East and he kept interrupting me, trying to divert me to Northern Ireland, a subject that had not been mentioned in the programme and to which I made no reference. He did not want to hear anyone say anything that was in any small way, favourable to Israel. He bears a great surname, but I am sure his illustrious father would have shuddered to hear what a travesty his son makes of a good programme. Typical left leaning (ill)liberal approach – don’t let the other side be heard.
And has anyone noticed how good Any Questions/Answers are when he is away and his place is filled by other presenters?
I’m completely mystified why people attack Dimbleby fil senior, he’s exemplary as far as I’m concerned, but fil Jr is truly appalling. I believe a decade ago he produced a documentary that was basically a propaganda piece for Hamas.
Vile, not so ex-Trotskyite individual.