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Interesting bit of double-dipping on today’s Jeremy Whine Show. First up was tax avoidance and whether or not people should use legal means to reduce their tax bill – missing the point that people are not mocking Carr for tax avoidace per se, they’re mocking him for his humbuggery. Nevertheless, the BBC was anxious to air the line that even though some people and companies might have done nothing legally wrong, they were still morally repugnant.
Then we had discussion of the Julian Assange case, and an interview with his supporter… Mozzamem Begg.
So apparently the BBC is all in favour of moral judgements where people who legally minimise tax are concerned, but when it comes to Islamofascist lunatics, anything less than conviction in court of law means they’re fine, upstanding members of the community who should be interviewed as though they were disinterested seekers after justice.
You know you are a lost cause when a fantasist like Begg sticks up for you.
Bye bye Assange, I’m sure all those agents and informers that died because your stupidity will feel sorry for you; or not.
surprise surprise
V. Drearybyshire, had some Assange supporters on this morning. to re instate the el bbc narrative, on 5Live, how refreshing đ
anyone would think they had an agenda
Having this taxpayer-funded millionaire Islamonutter on as some kind of bona fide commentator is the BBC’s way of sticking it to us – pure and simple.
They make you retch.
‘missing the point’
I rather suspect that the point was well understood, and very much steered well clear of.
It’s that unique way of educating and informing we have come to know and trust.
Some months ago I posted allegations about the âfast and furiousâ affair. Today, the shit got closer to the fan. Here is the latest (authorized) version of the story on the BBC website.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18524414
No-one in the BBC newsroom has yet given this story the importance it deserves. There is a roundâup of what Is known so far at National Review Online:
âHolder oversaw the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives during a time in which it ran Operation Fast and Furious â a program in which ATF agents deliberately allowed drug cartels to traffic more than 1,000 guns into Mexico and made no attempt to track the weapons as they changed hands. Two of the guns were found at the scene of a Border Patrol agentâs murder. Many more have turned up at other crime scenes, and as even Holder has admitted, the fallout from Fast and Furious will continue for âyears to come.â Documents that were obtained by the Oversight Committee via leaks â in particular, wiretap applications â suggest that several high-ranking officials within the Justice Department knew that guns were being allowed to âwalk.â
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302642/botching-fast-and-furious-editors
Further allegations imply that the gunrunning was deliberately tolerated because the Left needed âevidenceâ to pursue a gun ban in the USA.
I await Mark Mardellâs explanation of why (a) President Obama is blameless (b) why Eric Holder shouldnât resign and (c) and why this is no big deal. Come on, Mark, letâs have some creative reporting.
There’s also a blatant lie in the BBC report:
The operation saw US agents lose track of hundreds of illegal guns allowed into Mexico to trace arms dealers.
This is a falsehood, and is the White House version. In actual fact, they never intended to keep track of them in the first place. The whole point was to let the guns go to drug cartels unchecked, and exacerbate the violence so that the Administration could claim that lax US gun laws were the real problem.
That’s why the ATF guy and others blew the whistle on this in the first place.
Reality can be found here and here.
The BBC also censors the real story behind executive privilege. They mention Bush’s and Clinton’s use of the power, of course, in order to present The Obamessiah in shining contrast. The intent is to play down any concerns over the questionable use of such extraordinary executive power. He’s only used it the once, you see, while others used it much more, so He must be cool.
What the BBC doesn’t want you to know is that the whole concept of executive privilege comes from Nixon and his attempts to cover up Watergate (yeah, it’s only Wikipedia, but in this case it’s accurate, and there are sources you can check for yourselves). The BBC won’t tell you that because it will make Him look bad by association. There is no valid journalistic reason to leave that out while mentioning Bush and Clinton. A visceral bias is the driving force for BBC censorship in this case.
Then there’s the fact that the BBC report is heavily weighted towards Administration talking points and Democrat defenses. Typical BBC, Pro Obama At All Costs, facts be damned.
David, you’re right. The real motive was not to track down drug lords but create an atmosphere in which gun laws could be changed. Proof comes today in a shocking fact revealed in a radio interview from the author who knows most about this story, Katie Pavlich:
Of the 2500 guns sold to Mexican drug cartels, only TWO had GPS devices attached.
The BBC’s Adrian Goldberg (who’s presumably a doctor as well) has described Mr. Tony Nicklinson who suffers Locked-in Syndrome as a Twerp.
Go on then Boden – justify that outrageous statement as :
GOT IT ABOUT RIGHT.
“Mr Nicklinsonâs daughter Lauren, 24, appeared on Goldbergâs radio show to talk about her fatherâs legal struggle to get a doctor to end his life.
Following the Twitter apology, she added: “It was a genuine mistake which we picked up on immediately so not a problem”.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4384701/BBC-radio-mans-twerp-gaffe-against-right-to-die-campaigner.html
The perils of autocorrect. There’s a whole website devoted to this sort of mistake; http://www.damnyouautocorrect.com
I assume that your ancestors were never gainfully employed at Bletchley Park.
(***xv4-+^%***) = tweep
An unfortunate error.
However, despite the response to it being apparently tardy, not fully corrected and lacking in contrite sincerity, the daughter has been generously gracious.
Of course the ‘just joking/we’re all human’ excuse is not an unfamiliar one, if perhaps more noticeable for when it is expected to be accepted, vs. when the hounds of media hell are unleashed either for ratings, tribal reasons or, of course, both.
This seems to depend on which power is being held to account, and in turn which power controls the mic and edit suite.
A unique, but not often attractive feature if multiple standards are applied.
BBC News today included a long report on the 100th anniversary of Alan Turing’s birth. A notable anniversary to be sure. However, I found myself wondering why the BBC were paying this particular anniversary so much attention when others, like the Bomber Command memorial and jubilee celebrations, are treated with such disdain. Then all was revealed. Turing was a homosexual and prosecuted for gross indecency in 1952 after some guy he picked up on the street robbed his house. So there we have it: if the Jubilee flotilla had been to celebrate raging queens instead of the Queen, the BBC coverage would have been better. And if they changed the name from ‘Bomber Command’ to ‘Bummer Command’ it would be the first item on the BBC news.
BBC – Bending Boys Club.
It’s the perfect insight into the BBC’s world view. We’re supposed to admire Alan Turing as a martyr in the fight against oppression, but the people who literally did fight oppression… pah!
Dullsville, daddeo! Call them back when you’ve found a guy who went through a whole tour dressed as Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz.
Ditto, don’t expect anyone to point out that in so far as Turing was the victim of a State that agreed that ‘repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain ‘natural’ beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off’, his life is an argument against the BBC’s world view, not for it.
Something the BBC won’t mention about Turin
‘Early in 1944 a suspicion arose that he might have been the man responsible for molesting schoolboys at the main public library in Luton, a large industrial town not far from Bletchley. While no proceedings arose, it was decided that the need for good order and discipline required his removalâbut not before he had done his finest work.’
So there was a cover up.
Spot the missing word (no prizes!):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18526106
Actually the missing word is RIDICULOUS. Firstly implying that among the duties of the security apparatus is to help a man get laid and secondly, thinking that a would-be shahid and jihadi would have any problem finding any number of only-the-eyes-showing beauties.
Hey, it’s an opportunity for a new show!
Danny Cohen… how’s about ‘Snog, Marry… Scrape him off the shed ceiling’?
To clarify, I have nothing against consenting homosexuals practising in the privacy of their own home. And Turing’s prosecution was certainly a travesty. However, so is the BBC’s selection of which stories to report and which not to report so as to support their left-wing agenda. Bias by selection and omission. They are normally loathe to report any story which might engender a sense of patriotism or national pride. However, their phobia is forgotten if the story can be spun to promote homosexuality and the destruction of the traditional family.
The BBC is a cultural Marxist organisation. The Cultural Marxists at the BBC won’t be happy until we are living a 1984 society.
Wow you’ve got some stamina.
Bad day’s hunting?
Pardon me?
http://tinyurl.com/bsmhx5b
“‘Al Qaeda’ gunman who laid siege at Toulouse bank is detained by police after six-hour stand-off”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162022/Toulouse-bank-siege-4-people-held-hostage-Al-Qaeda-gunman-French-city-Toulouse.html#ixzz1yMGEKeyf
INBBC:
“Toulouse hostage gunman arrested”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18516934
As the Islamic populations of many European cities rise to 10% and beyond (Toulouse is about 10% of 800,000), more frequent jihad attacks can apparently be expected.
So, E.U.’s political class (inc INBBC ) continues to campaign for 80 million Turks to entry E.U., despite the proven jihad and shariah threat in Germany, which derives from Turkish immigration!
Don’t ever forget your friendly tory PM Dave approves of a Turkish entry too!
Plonker!
Shows how great our leaders are they say multiculturalism has failed but still want to let 80 million muslims be able to live in this country. There is a alot of very nasty stuff coming down the road in the near future and if any of these BBC lefty freaks think it won’t affect them they are very much mistaken.
And David Cameron and Dan Hannan.
George, i seem to recall, that Francais population stands at about 10% too,
“we know a song about that, don t we Jonny” đ
“can you hear me say, farewell
go–odbye Toulouse, go–odbye Toulouse”.
At least the BBC is reporting that the criminal Mohammedan said he was acting for “religious reasons”. The religion of peace, right, BBC? Only the tiniest, most minute, extreme minority of them think like this, right, BBC? Wherever could he have been inspired to do such a thing, I wonder?
when the story first broke dave, 5Live was all Al Qaeda inspired terrorism.
no “I “word No “M” word in sight.
thought i was listening to obama radio
The BBC leftys are scared of muslims. They are worried if they upset them, they will kill them in their beds in their mansions in islington.
YEP!
obama policy … er i mean radio đ
Reuters, June 20
link
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/20/us-usa-defense-islam-idUSBRE85J0XJ20120620
We are always told that it is “our BBC”, correct?
So if it belongs to us, we are, in effect, the shareholders, and the BBC should be included in the new government Bill which gives shareholders the right to vote on directors’ salaries. And maybe we can vote on the presenters too. How much do we think Victoria Derbyshire is worth?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18514396
Business Secretary Vince Cable has announced plans to force companies to have binding votes on executive pay every three years.
Companies will then have to stick to their pay plans for the next three years or have another shareholder vote.
Labour has said there should be a binding vote annually, however.
Jeremy Bowen tweeted this week that he is “off on book-writing leave” https://twitter.com/jfjbowen
How I’ll miss him!
jeremy bowen is an oxygen thief
Do we get to uniquely fund this too?
Jeremy Ali-Bowen
This won’t change anything, as Ofcom is not recommending limits on ownership, but it might just broaden the conversation about media dominance to include our state broadcaster, and bring the issue to a wider audience. However, it would have been a delicious irony if Mr. Murdoch’s bid to own Sky outright, that instigated the clamour amongst his haters on the political left and their friends in the media to restrict his empire, gave rise to a review that was critical of the BBC’s dominance in regard to news provision. I’m guessing that the likes of Ed Miliband would suddenly be a lot less insistent on restrictions, and adopt a slightly more laissez faire attitude.
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Google, the BBC and Facebook should be included in reviews of media ownership, regulator Ofcom has ruled.
Ofcom added that the BBC needed to be included in future reviews and highlighted that the corporation’s news content was consumed by 81 per cent of Britons each week.
‘The BBC’s leading position in TV, radio, and online news means it should be included in any plurality review, but the position itself should not trigger a review,’ the report said.
The recommendations in the report are being submitted to Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
Last year, he asked Ofcom to investigate media plurality rules following a bid by Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation to acquire the whole of BSkyB
Several politicians, including Labour leader Ed Miliband, have suggested that curbs on media ownership be put in place at the Leveson Inquiry into press standards.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161888/Google-BBC-Facebook-face-media-ownership-review-rules-watchdog.html
After Cameron’s comment on Jimmy Carr’s tax avoidance BBC reporter just announced it’s now open season for the BBC to investigate the tax arrangements of all Cameron associates. BBC News, BBC1, 22:07
In fact it all reflects very badly on Cameron who seems to open his mouth if it is “trending on Twitterr” without engaging his brain.
I find Mr Carr unfunny but it is also very far from funny for a Prime Minister to use his office to personally attack a citizen who has not broken any actual law. This is demeaning to the office he holds. It all goes to show that Cameron is a lightweight and unfitted for government.
Quite honestly I cannot understand why the liberal media does not recognize one of their own and treat him as such. He is certainly no conservative.
Every BBC report I’ve seen or heard on this matter has been largely from the perspective of “tax avoidance is dreadful, what are we going to do about it?”. Other than a brief quote on the news at 10:00 from someone pointing out that to do otherwise was to donate money to the government, it’s been one-way traffic.
I’ve yet to hear any discussion as to why it should be wrong to organise your affairs so as to minimise tax or a suggestion that it might reflect on the ridiculous complexity of tax laws. No, there’s just a general presumption that somehow it’s wrong.
And yes, Cameron is an arse and will regret engaging mouth before brain.
Tax evasion is illegal.
Tax avoidance is every persons duty.
Seems like the ‘word has gone out’.
@bbcnickrobinson via Twitter
Warning to celebs & politicians. Time to look at your tax affairs before journos do. What have @TheTimes & @Number10gov started ?
I have honestly not been aware of any great restraint in this regard other than, in certain unique quarters, who gets the spotlight and who gets quietly covered for.
If anyone in the public interest is doing anything publicly-interesting that they’d prefer was not known if ‘dubious’ I’d say they are fair game. However, the public broadcaster playing fast an loose with who they target or not is an abuse of power that needs holding to account.
So the Congressional committee on Fast & Furious has voted to hold Atty. Gen. Holder in contempt of Congress. Of course the vote was completely split on partisan lines, so it’s all meaningless. It’s especially meaningless now because the President pulled that last-second executive privilege move, so Holder can now say the nasty Republicans are holding him in contempt for not revealing info which he’s legally unable to give them.
A shrewd move by the President for now, and the media is and will be playing this up as a partisan witch hunt. That will be the BBC Narrative as well. Not a peep from Mardell or anyone else about a cover-up, you can be sure. The BBC’s US President editor is too busy freaking out over whether or not the Supreme Court will decide to trash ObamaCare. Yes, as usual, he misleads you by saying that it provides “comprehensive health care”, which it doesn’t. What a waste of space this man is.
What… What is this? Have I walked on to the set of Mad Men or something? Did a work experience kid have some kind of fit? I think someone must have spiked my tea – there’s no way that a professional organisation like the BBC could put this on its website with no context whatsoever. It’s poorly shot, absolutely meaningless and the less said about that bizarre caption the better. But I look and there it is .
I think I’m going quite mad.
Yesterday morning Justin Webb had a cosy little chat – sorry, held an interview with – Andy Burnham (you know, that bland Labour mantraman – earnest northern accent – who might just reach middle managment in the private sector) over government plans for social care for the elderly.
Burnham put on his best concerned, sincere tone assuring his bezzie mate that Labour would not play party politics over this but would work with the coalition to come up with the best solution.
Then I waited, and waited, for our intrepid, impartial BBC man to come up with the obvious, if right-wing, challenge to this insincere drivel along the lines of ‘But Mr Burnham, why didn’t you sort this out during the 13 years Labour were in power?’
Amazingly, it never came.
Got it ‘just about right’ there did he, Helen?
I think I heard Burnham say that the most important things in his life were the Labour Party, his Catholicism and Everton FC. Bear this in mind next time you hear him bull-shitting.
http://daphneanson.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/unabashedly-plugging-pilger-bbc-flaunts.html
Quiz
When does a Pakistani Islamist (much beloved by the BBC) use the Queen’s English to make a point ?
Answer
When they paint on the pavement outside a terraced house full of illegal jihadist’s on UK benefits :
Keep clear at all timesConclusion
How prophetic of them to warn the local infidels that the experiments going on in the cellar could well result in no parking of cars ever taking place again.
TV licence
Doubt it.
Labour voters
Of course.
Women
What women ?
Here’s one for you:
Obama Spends More Than He Raises as Aides See Romney Edge
What a shock, right? I’m sure the BBC will find a way to use this as proof that evil Republican money is an unfair advantage. Oh, and it won’t be His fault, either. Didn’t the BBC tell us how He would make a great President because He ran a brilliant campaign in 2008?
A shocker indeed…lefty politician spends more than he takes in!
BBC-NUJ decides to spend more of our money in LIBERIA.
As a classic example of BBC-NUJ not representing the interests of British people, but instead representing the interests of Liberian ‘entrepreneurs’, look at Radio 4 ‘Today’s burgeoning broadcasting empire on this.
First, we had Humphrys in Liberia in April:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01fjt04
Now. today ,we have Montague in Liberia:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9730000/9730465.stm
This is exactly the sort of global, self-indulgent, expensive broadcasting which a publicly financed broadcaster should NOT be doing.
But, BBC-NUJ is a law unto itself, and spends our licence fee money as it wants.
BBC-NUJ is convinced it is on some moral high ground representing the largely anti-West interests of the United Nations bloc of countries.
Each day, BBC-NUJ, unwittingly, makes the case for its own demise.
ASSANGE.
1.) ‘Daily Mail’-
“The useful idiots who lionised the amoral and cowardly Mr Assange have ended up looking utter twits.”
By Stephen Glover
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2162383/Julian-Assange-The-useful-idiots-lionised-amoral-cowardly-Mr-Assange-ended-looking-utter-twits.html#ixzz1yP3VQnUZ
2.) BBC-NUJ-
“Ecuador ruling on Wikileaks’ Assange due ‘on Thursday'”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18529726
‘Police say he faces arrest for breaching his bail conditions.’
On a purely legal, but possibly reporting slant basis, why would that be ‘police say’?
Surely the consequences are a matter of simple fact?
Love the ‘demonstrators’ (with an ‘s’, technically accurate but only just) photo.
Maybe they’re finally realising that wikileaks only existed for the personal aggrandisement of Assange. No other reason. Wikileaks never told us anything we didn’t already know. Total boll*cks.
The BBC commentator Norman ‘but Labour say’ Smith is very much out of the Paul Mason mould of lugubrious old Beeboid. We may not know his political allegiance but his journalistic mantra seems to be ‘what can I do to fuck up the Government today?’ Naturally the BBC ensure we hear plenty from him. Yesterday he pops up on BBC News to give us the line on David Cameron’s Jimmy Carr comments. According to our Norn it’s all about whether it is a good idea for the PM to make such comments. And of course he suggests it was a mistake. The Beeboid happily points out that people may begin to point to Garry Barlow who we are told has similar tax arrangements and is a Tory supporter. Job done Norman. Within minutes of the news breaking he has given us an argument of which Harriet Harman could be proud. The BBC the unofficial opposition.
Ah, but according to Today, Jimmy Carr has tweeted that it was an error of judgement and that he won’t get involved in that tax scheme again.
Phew! And there was I worrying he might be a lefty, sanctimonious hypocrite. Glad that’s all cleared up.
The only error of judgement was, of course, being caught after crticising others who best arranged their affairs. Which, incidentally, is something I’ve missed amongst all the breast-beating. How did his private tax affairs come to be public knowledge?
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/diplomacy.html?
‘she described the current programming as “less versatile” than it was – saying nowadays she only hears news and commentary ‘
Well, at least she still gets ‘news’. But, luckily, is spared paying for it.
Comes to something when a lady locked in a house for decades notices that Delivering Quality First seems to involve more and more folk getting more and more money to offer less and less.
I wonder at what point the Licence Fee will be devoted to zero content and purely to service another public sector entity whose pensions are protected from any consequences whatsoever.
I notice Nicky Campbell is taking a morning off from bringing us his leftwing sidelights on the football out there in Ukraine.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00v0k0t
Nicky ”forget about past governments, what have the current government done wrong” Campbell has several biases.
Anti-Coalition and pro-Labour
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=962836
Anti-business
http://www.ecademy.com/node.php?id=116585
Could a pattern be emerging?
Another ‘jump the shark’ moment for the BBC?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18237932
These England fans seem to think so.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/england-fans-confident-after-ukraine-win-7869014.html
Sol Campbell / Nicky Campbell – much the same attention seeking stupid ill-informed comments.
Palestinian woman on hunger strike for 3 weeks. Sheâs not in Israel, so the Guardian yawns as does the BBC.
The article accuses the Guardian of hypocrisy for its coverage of the Palestinian hunger-strikers but ignoring a Palestinian woman on hunger strike in Norway so as not to be forced back to Gaza.
No Jews have been killed, so it’s of no interest to the Guardian. They have nothing to salivate over.
I think this subject deserves it’s own heading :
So Jimmy Carr has apologised. He says he made a terrible error over tax. If he follows up his apology by putting, say 1 million pounds into HMRC for every year he used the scheme, that would be really impressive, but I won’t hold my breath!
But I want to talk about the BBC. If Jimmy Carr ‘made a terrible error’, what about the BBBC, who paid taxpayers money into a virtual company in a UK tax-shelter? Was that a ‘terrible error’? It takes two to tango, the tax avoider, and the corporation which accepts his invoice. Why don’t the BBC change their terms, refusing to pay money offshore? For everyone, not just Jimmy Carr, but for consultants, senior managers, and everyone who delivers a service to the BBC.
Again, Dave Cameron is criticising a comedian who is using a totally legitimate tax avoidance scheme. He is talking about changing the law. But what he could and should be doing if he wants to change the law is making it illegal for Public companies, quangos, and government departments to pay fees into offshore companies, or to participate / support any tax avoidance scheme.
I also notice a deafening silence from Labour and the LibDems none of the squealing like they do over (totally legitimate) bankers pay.
But if, as was posted higher up that Robinson tweeted, Cameron’s ‘interference’ sends many of our ‘proud to be left’ friends to reconsider their tax affairs before being ‘outed’ it will be a job well done and will bring in more tax very cheaply.
I don’t know the mechanics of the K2 scheme but, usually with schemes of this nature, the payer of the tax avoiders income has no idea (and why should he) of what the payee is going to do with his money. Frankly, it’s not up to my employer or my client to act as policeman: my employer is bound to deduct the statutory PAYE and National Insurance and pay over the net amount to me. My client is legally bound – by contract – to pay me (or my company) the sum agreed. That’s the extent of any duty they owe – or should owe – me or you. HMRC can (and does) take it from there.
BTW there is no need to have moneys paid at first instance direct to “foreign companies” to effect tax avoidance. It’s possible – indeed preferable in many instances of sophisticated avoidance arrangements – to have money moving (indeed, staying) onshore. Don’t be deceived by the blather of ill-informed gossip appearing in the national press and the BBC that avoidance is all about mysterious tax havens in sunny climes.
Unfortunately, you are adopting the mindset of those in a permanent moral panic – and seeking what they call tax “justice” – by assuming that all income is actually that of the state and that the (private sector) suckers who earn the money can be allowed a bit of pocket money (not to buy cigarettes of course – the state doesn’t like that).
It bears repeating that tax avoidance is legal. Furthermore, there’s no “morality” in being compelled to pay tax or minimising what you are compelled to pay. Any immorality – actually hypocrisy – is confined to the Carrs of this world who condemn in public what they do in private and, even worse, a politician – a politician – preaching about “morality”.
You may not like tax avoidance but it is the other side of the coin of an over-complex tax system and a greedy and profligate state.
I am not talking about morality or about private companies. I feel that individuals have a duty to minimise tax.
But government organisations should not be colluding with tax evasion, paying OUR money into virtual offshore companies.
If the person lives in London and services are delivered in London and he is invoicing the government from a Cayman-based company that is not acceptable.
“and he is invoicing the government from a Cayman-based company that is not acceptable”
Why? If he’s resident in the UK for tax purposes he has to account to HMRC for all his income anyway. BTW, if he controls the Cayman company then – for tax purposes – that company is resident in the UK and, consequently, is liable for corporation tax. Whatever, he has to make an annual return to HMRC and, furthermore, the money laundering regulations would (probably) affect the willingness of the payer to pay money offshore – particularly to the Caymans I might add.
I’m mystified as to why you wish to give the state even more powers of oversight – or, worse, dump such responsibility on the poor chumps who just want to pay for services rendered – when there are in existence a myriad ways that possible tax avoidance is already overseen. Indeed, if you are UK tax resident and wish to avoid tax legally you have to inform HMRC as to what you’re doing – offshore companies and all. The logical end-game of your wishes is that we all pay our creditors through a state payment agency which has the power to pay our creditors or not as it sees fit.
I tend to agree that morality was best left out this debate. David Cameron has – mistakenly in my view – joined in with the same game that the left play.
To quote another TV celeb, Kirsty Allsop (one of that very rare group – a conservative voice) ‘Right wingers think left wingers are missguided, left wingers think right wingers are evil’.
What Cameron ought to hone in on is the blatant hypocrisy of the celebrity luvvie culture that needs to be loved by the masses and so constantly espouses leftist ideas
– such as castigating greedy bankers and tax evaders – whilst secretly employing their services.
-advocating high Government spending on every cause under the sun, whilst minimising their own tax.
As for Jimmy Carr’s ‘I didn’t know’ defence – I find this strains the credulity a little. I would guess his finacial advisors would have been more than keen to have informed their client just how much they were saving him in tax. And the impressive figures didn’t ring alarm bells? Well it’s not as though he doesn’t do current affairs is it? What is this 50p tax rate they are all going on about, Jimmy?
There are a number of celebs who have left their financial affairs to their accountants and have no clue as to what they earn, how much they have left or where it all is. These are often the ones who end up bancrupt because the accountant skips the country to sunnier climes, loot in tow.
So, it’s possible that Carr was unaware but somehow I doubt it. Like most celebs he espouses a lefty cause because that is the only way he can get work and not because he actually believes in it.
The BBC says
“The tax scheme is a way of lowering the amount of tax paid. It is legal and Mr Carr made clear in his statement it was fully disclosed to HMRC.”
Legal?
Really?
Have the BBC’s tax lawyers checked the scheme out? Are they using it themselves?
Rather a bald statement to be making IMO.
Humphrys’ rant at the BMA’s Meldrum this morning on Today almost made me sympathetic to the doctors’ case. Humphrys is not there to express his (or my) indignation at the doctors’ action; he’s there, through interviews with people from both sides of an argument (and, difficult for the BBC I know, genuinely independent experts) to get at the truth and allow the intelligent listener to make up his/her own mind.
But, no, this is Humphrys, Today and the BBC. Instead of letting Meldrum make a total pig’s ear of any justification for this strike as well as getting pensions expert John Ralfe to inform us of the arithmetic, Humphrys felt compelled to interrupt Meldrum at every opportunity. The clever as well as, coincidentally, the statutorally “impartial” thing to do – both of which always escape Humphrys – was to let Meldrum attempt to make the case uninterrupted: it would have been an interesting slow motion car crash.
Instead we got Humphrys, smug in his humbug about showing up this particular set of fatcats for the troughers they are. It so happens that the doctors’ case is rubbish and their greed is manifest but it ill behoves any “journalist” from the BBC of all places to be indignant on behalf of the taxpayer. This is especially so of a journalist who is, I suspect, looking forward to receiving a grotesquely generous inflation-proofed pension not available (or only available at prohibitive cost) to those in the private sector.
I watched an interview with a senior BMA striking Doc at his surgery. He was left to spout, and really only managed to dig very deep holes.
At one stage he baldly stated that as far as he was concerned, on top of nothing ever being allowed to change with circumstances (funded by a public not enjoying such guarantees) the ‘negotiations’ were in poor faith because the government was not leaving their money alone.
It seems that the Church of England has decided to join the BBC in condemning Camerons’ EU veto as being damaging to Britain. It’s quite an extraordinary and overtly political position to take, but not surprising when you consider the chief author of this report. They need to be reminded very sharply just who runs the show, or disestablishment looms. It appears to me like a parting shot at a government that the current Archbishop clearly despises, perhaps in return for the trouble caused to the church by the Conservative’s gay marriage legislation and the resulting row within the institution. The sooner we see the back of Mr. Williams the better.
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The Church of England has mounted an extraordinary attack on David Cameron over Europe â warning that his veto of an EU treaty last year has left Britain âwithout credibilityâ.
In a highly unusual move, the Church has told MPs to adopt a more âconstructive and positiveâ approach towards Europe or risk Britain âslowly drifting towards the exitâ.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162409/Extraordinary-Church-England-attack-Camerons-EU-veto-saying-leaves-Britain-credibility.html
No word from the BBC on this yet, but I’m sure they’ll be on this like flies to Sh!t. A search of the BBC news site for ‘Church of England’ has given me ten stories – all on the subject of gay marriage.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/church_of_england
http://tinyurl.com/budqrd6
I don’t know what God thinks about the Euro, but I have a good idea what he thinks about his bearded representative in the UK.
God’s a Yorkshireman.
That’s why the world is so messed up!
Yes, but at least we invented the collection plate before the Greeks went and spoilt it all !
I always liked the quote from Lord Clyde about not letting the Inland Revenue rob you :
“No man in the country is under the smallest obligation, moral or other, so to arrange his legal relations to his business or property as to enable the Inland Revenue to put the largest possible shovel in his stores. The Inland Revenue is not slow, and quite rightly, to take every advantage which is open to it under the Taxing Statutes for the purposes of depleting the taxpayer’s pocket. And the taxpayer is in like manner entitled to be astute to prevent, so far as he honestly can, the depletion of his means by the Inland Revenue”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Avon_Clyde,_Lord_Clyde
OT techy question.
As a result of the BBC’s odd habit of changing stuff after the event, I forward myself an email copy of what I have written, along with a page capture of the forum URL it is on.
I do it with all posts out of habit.
Just noticing that here, where the page forward used to capture the thread title in the subject line, now it no longer does.
No biggie, but why is that, and can it be restored?
I’ve noticed that recently aswell, not that it presents me with any problem.
Some in Labour are still pushing the ‘compassion’ angle in relation to immigration, a subtle way of expressing their heartfelt opposition to limits without actually having the courage to admit that they’re still in favour of the mass, uncontrolled importing of foreigners.
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The most overcrowded parts of Britain have seen their populations rocket in the past 15 years, official figures revealed yesterday.
London â which is by far the most densely-populated area of the country â now has nearly 5,000 people crammed into every square kilometre.
According to the Office for National Statistics, the numbers squeezed into the most crowded parts of Britain have soared by 10 per cent since 1997.
Critics blame the population surge on the last Labour governmentâs policy of encouraging large-scale immigration. The population density of London has risen by 11.6 per cent since 1997; in the East of England by 10.5 per cent, and by nearly 9 per cent across the rest of the South.
Some say present rates of population growth will lead to intolerable pressures on transport, housing, water and energy supplies.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2162396/Britain-bursting-Population-10-15-years–theyre-ones-know-about.html#ixzz1yR0rEZa0
…expecting a report on this from the BBC very soon…perhaps even a Newsnight special, with Sir Andrew Green from that ‘right-wing’ think tank Immigration Watch.
…and if you want to get an idea of just what Migration Watch is up against, read this – it’s one of the most jaw-dropping articles I’ve read in many years…
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The EU should “do its best to undermine” the “homogeneity” of its member states, the UN’s special representative for migration has said.
Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural.
He also suggested the UK government’s immigration policy had no basis in international law.
He told the committee: “The United States, or Australia and New Zealand, are migrant societies and therefore they accommodate more readily those from other backgrounds than we do ourselves, who still nurse a sense of our homogeneity and difference from others.
“And that’s precisely what the European Union, in my view, should be doing its best to undermine.”
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-18519395
…music to Beeboids ears, no doubt – The EU as a force to undermine the national identities of member states. This is encouraging the very ‘homogeneity’ that they claim to wish to eradicate. Diversity within nations is supposedly to be promoted above all, but apparently the diversity of national cultures is to be frowned upon. They don’t seem to comprehend the inherent contradiction here – that you can’t have the former without the latter!
A demand for a referendum on the EU will increase even further if this kind of thing is conveyed to a wider audience.
Sutherland’s career is mind blowing. He ticks all the right boxes. Bilderberg. BP.Goldman Sachs UN. it goes on and on. Either we break as a people against men like this or we break them. He is no friend of England. Their weak point? They don’t believe they have one. History is littered with men who felt this way and then reality intervened to show them different..Be under no illusion. The EU and Bilderberg like projects depend on breaking the spirit and hearts of the English above all others. We were always the main target.
A few days ago I mentioned a court case in Shropshire which the BBC thought would only be of interest only to readers of their Shropshire webpage(18/6/12):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-18498000
Itâs the usual business of Muslim / Pakistani men grooming teenage girls, some underage, and subjecting them to abuse: a topic one would have thought was of wider national interest, since the Home Affairs committee only published its evidence on the topic his week. The article gives he impression that only the two brothers were involved and has no back-reference to this article from a year earlier(25/7/11):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-14285298
With a drawing of nine men in the dock, all of whom were accused of the same sort of crime and in which the line that some of he defendants were to be tried separately occurs – the later article only mentions the two brothers, somehow giving the impression of things happening on a much smaller scale.
Again confined to local pages, this time in Lancashire (14/6/2112):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-18438144
They donât even seem to think this case (5 men involved) was even worth a mention on heir local pages – Iâve searched their website and canât find a report (20/4/12):
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/np/Birminghamwestandcentral/news/newsitem.asp?id=8180
Incidents in Blackpool and Cumbria have no doubt been treated in the same way.
Itâs clear that he BBC has been using every means of downplaying the problem and confining discussion of the issue to a purely local level. Realising that they were creating an open goal for agitators like the EDL the establishment decided to make a big thing of the Rochdale case and then with the connivance of the BBC , craven local police officers and councillors and hat self appointed protector of the Muslim community, Keith Vaz, proceeded to obfuscate (not specifically an Asian crime) even at a parliamentary level. Objections from Hindus and Sikhs, that it is a Muslim problem have been more or less ignored. The care homes and the girls themselves are the main culprits and itâs back to business as normal.
They are now using he same technique to deal with Muslim projects to murder Jews, if this case is anything to go by (20/6/12).
âTerror accused Shasta Khan denies jihad plan at Oldham homeâ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18523588
(Confined to their Manchester page; that the plot was to murder Jews is mentioned three quarters of the way into the article. Also it was an al quaeda – and therefore not an Islam – inspired affair)
FRACKING.
Will BBC’s high-cost globe-trotting greenie propagandists such as Harrabin and Black report straight on fracking?
“Fracking The Movie(s)”
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1336/fracking_the_movie_s_
The BBC provide a bland report of another London shooting.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18526773
‘A man has died and a woman has been critically injured in a shooting at a residential address in west London, police have said.
Officers were called to Felix Road, near West Ealing railway station, at about 14:50 BST to reports of shots being fired.
The 32-year-old man was pronounced dead at the scene.
The woman, 28, was taken to hospital in a critical condition. She was later said to be stable.
No arrests have been made.’
A fairly ‘colourless’ report when compared with this from the Evening Standard.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ealing-double-shooting-man-killed-and-woman-injured-7869785.html
‘The couple, believed to be Jamaican and with two daughters, were shot at 3pm yesterday as parents were picking up their children from St Johnâs Primary School in Felix Road.
Paramedics were at the scene within four minutes, but were unable to save the man.
Neighbours said they heard four gunshots at Glenpark Court, which backs on to a Waitrose and a quiet residential street. The woman was said to be in a wheelchair. The man was known locally as âSonnyâ.
Officers from the Trident squad have launched a murder investigation and streets near the apartment block were cordoned off after the shooting, while parents were given a police escort to pick up their children.’
I know the Beeb has its fans who occasionally comment here. Perhaps one of them would like to enlighten us as to what exactly it is that the Beeb expect to protect us from by their withholding of certain details?
Will BBC accept that licencepayers need only pay 1% of licence fee?
“Jimmy Carr and the morality of tax avoidance”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18537051
I seem to have been somewhat premature when I rejoiced at the news that Billy “bloody” Bragg would not be doing his Bob Hopeless tonic for the troops tour of Tolpuddle later next month.
For I see now who`s coming….Paul Mason, Owen “shouty” Jones and the Godawful Selecter with black female Beeboid luvvie of all the right causes…Pauline Black…she shared a dressing room with Jerry Dammers about being her claim to fame as far as I can tell.
Reckon I`ll be needing some tents away from the frontline to soothe the brows of anybody who once was a true Labour warhorse…surely to God they all now know they`re donkeys led by ferrets.
Lord Monks anybody?…ye Gods!
Bolshie Billy’s probably too busy rearranging his tax affairs ….
Tolpuddle should be renamed the lefty soap dodging b.o. festival.
Is it me, or has Lord Leveson proved his critics dead right? – Rod Liddle
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialSpectator/app_190322544333196
http://www.nextlevelofnews.com/2012/06/bbcs-mark-thompson-in-talks-to-head-new-york-times.html
Guessing it’s probably not a Murdoch title then?
Not sure quite what incest does for genetic traits, but the Pharaohs seemed to suggest it didn’t always end well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/21/bbc-mark-thompson-new-york-times
‘..the broadcaster, which he has helped steer through a change of government and a new licence fee deal. ‘
‘Steered’, in what way?…
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm112113761/mao-zedong-great-helmsman-biographiq-paperback-cover-art.jpg
Supplementary:
BBC-Guardian-New York Times political network –
“BBC director-general Mark Thompson ‘in talks with New York Times'”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/media/9348063/BBC-director-general-Mark-Thompson-in-talks-with-New-York-Times.html
Although Mark THOMPSON is still presumably a Catholic (educated by Jesuits), no doubt he won’t complain about the ‘New York Times’ preferential treatment of Islam, somethng which Thompson also politically engineered at the BBC.
“Dhimmi Washington Post enforces sharia — nixes Islam ad, approves anti-Catholic ad.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/06/sharia-compliant-washington-post-nixes-islam-ad-.html
The New York Times, ‘The Old Gray Lady’
‘According to a 2007 survey by Rasmussen Reports of public perceptions of major media outlets, 40% saw the paper as having a liberal slant’.
‘In mid-2004, the newspaper’s then public editor (ombudsman), Daniel Okrent, wrote an opinion piece in which he said that The New York Times did have a liberal bias in coverage of certain social issues such as permitting gay marriage. He stated that this bias reflected the paper’s cosmopolitanism, which arose naturally from its roots as a hometown paper of New York City. Okrent did not comment at length on the issue of bias in coverage of “hard news”, such as fiscal policy, foreign policy, or civil liberties, but did state that the paper’s coverage of the Iraq war was insufficiently critical of the Bush administration.’
Thompson ought to be a shoo in.
Hah! What a disaster waiting to happen. The NY Times is already in dire financial straits, which is probably why they’re looking at Thompson. He oversaw development of several new revenue streams at the BBC, so they think he can bring his genius touch to the paper.
If Thompson takes over, it will be just one more reason to refuse to buy the NY Times. I stopped ages ago because of the unrelenting bias, censorship, falsehoods, and constant mistakes in the business pages.
I pay a few bucks a year to download the crossword puzzle, and that’s it.
Michael Gove’s leaked exam plans (someone tell Dave to buy some duct tape or call a plumber or something, the Houses of Parliament will be riddled with damp at this rate) have come under fire from the Lib Dems, the unions and therefore by the BBC (of course). Apparently it will create a ‘two-tier’ system of those who are actually academically capable and those who aren’t. Forgive me while I weep.
The fact that there already is a two-tier system: when I did GCSEs those who weren’t good enough for ‘higher’ level papers (no mean feat) could take ‘foundation’ papers, which had a maximum grade of C. I would also like to say that a lot of us found that GCSEs were too easy (granted, it was a grammar school), and we ended up able to get As, A*s or worst case scenario Bs without trying, so when we moved up to A-levels, which actually require a modicum of intelligence and hard work, we had no idea how to study. Goodness knows how many students were not able to go to the university they wanted to because of the leftist push for ‘inclusion’.
@BBCNewsnight – Comedian Marcus Brigstocke @marcusbrig on #newsnight tonight to discuss tax avoidance with Dr Giles Fraser. Also Egypt and the end GCSEs…’
Credit where due. When Newsnight brings out the experts on a topic, one can be sure of an education and a whole new notion on what might constitute information. One can see how their awesome ratings trend is secured, for sure.
Next up they’ll be getting Paul Mason to ‘analyse’ porn as a career with Jacquie Smiff, with John Prescott and Laurie Menny acting as models a la ‘Joy Of Sex’ in the 70s.
Oh, and to report on Economics they’ll have Ms. Flanders (that may take a brief moment to appreciate).
Like it.
I hope you were making that up. Giles Fraser and Brigstocke!
…an insufferable, right-on smugfest awaits…oh the joys of Newsnight.
Katty Kay â@KattyKayBBC
At the BBC we pride ourselves on objectivity – and with that caveat, come on England!!
Let me fix that for you…
At the BBC we pride ourselves on objectivity – and with that caveat, come on Labour!!
@bbcnickrobinson via Twitter
Bring back O levels, attack Jimmy Carr’s tax avoidance, defend the Falklands – attempt to reverse damage of omni shambles perchance?
Simply running Labour’s attack lines as ‘news’, perchance?
Interesting. Compare:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18540902
With:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9347238/Rochdale-grooming-trial-ringleader-Shabir-Ahmed-unveiled-after-further-conviction.html
Notice something?
Just seems the usual stuff to me – I do notice the BBC website article states:
“The case sparked protests and vandalism in Heywood and caused national debate about the safety of children in care and whether race was a factor in on-street grooming.” – which is, of course, why they tucked the story away on the Manchester page.
It would have been more than a Beeboid’s job is worth even to suggest that anyone argued it was religion, not race, which was the major factor.
“The external activities of BBC editorial staff, reporters and presenters should not undermine the public’s perception of the impartiality, integrity or independence of BBC output. External activities should not bring the BBC into disrepute. It is also important that off-air activities do not undermine the on-air role of regular presenters.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/editorialguidelines/page/guidelines-conflict-of-interest-other-output/
“The above is unquestionable evidence of a close relationship between Richard Black and advocacy group Stakeholder Forum. He has evidently been working closely with them and even ready to âpitch to the Beebâ on their behalf, thereby using our public money to help Stakeholder Forum with their propaganda aims for the RIO+20 conference.”
http://blackswhitewash.com/2012/06/21/richard-black-so-what-is-he-actually-doing-in-rio/
From this tweet, Paul Mason is not happy about having to report on the controversy surrounding fellow leftie Jimmy Carr:
@MatinaStevis I feel your pain having to come back from Athens to report Eurogroup. I had to come back and report on Jimmy Carr.
You have to wonder at the BBC’s lack of jounalistic instincts at times.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18529245
A short and bland statement of fact from the Beeb….
‘Nine men charged over over Danny O’Shea murder in Canning Town
Danny O’Shea Danny O’Shea was stabbed in the neck
Nine men have been charged with murder over the fatal stabbing of an 18-year-old man in east London.
The accused are Paul Johnson, 33, O’Neil Wareham, 29, Andrew Johnson, all three from Harrow; Kevin Richards, 32, from the Willesden area; Ferron Perue, 24, of Birmingham; Nugent Rowe, 29, of Pinner; Christopher Nathaniel, 40, and Paul Boadi, 34, both from Poplar; David Hylton, 47, from Camden.’
So anything interesting about any of those chaps?
http://www.anorak.co.uk/309501/news/the-death-of-danny-oshea-the-celebrity-canning-town-murder.html/
Oh look….Chris Nathaniel is quite well known…
‘Nathaniel, head of the NVA Entertainment Group, has been involved in a host of dazzling deals.Nathaniel âbrokered a bar dealâ between Chelsea and England footballer Ashley Cole and superstar rapper Jay-Z.
Also, Mr Nathaniel once worked as a director of Man United captain Rio Ferdinandâs youth foundation.
Nathaniel, head of the NVA Entertainment Group, has been involved in a host of dazzling deals.
On the companysâs website, we learn that NVA âworks closely with the Damilola Taylor Trustâ, the fund set up in honour of the young boy stabbed to death in London.’
Oooo-er!
Hmm?
BBC apologises over Itamar massacres coverage Perhaps not the BBC but outgoing Director Mark Thomson? Lessons learnt? Naaa!
“When there has been a humanitarian incident in Gaza, we try to show the effects of rockets in Sderot.â
Surely reporting the facts doesn’t demand any effort to “try” anything?
‘to all our audience including our Jewish and Israeli audiences here and around the world, we do want to make sure we are fair and impartial.’
Equally, reporting of facts appropriately, or failing to, is matter for all audiences.
Seems more like hoie-digging #101 from a BBC market rate top talent.
‘Mr Thompson said the story had come during a âvery busy news periodâ including the fighting in Libya and the tsunami in Japan.’
It would be interesting how many ‘all we have time for’ slots for skateboarding turtles were managed at the same time.
âNews editors were under a lot of pressure,â he said.
Yes, the ‘pressure’ to run news stories on TV screens according to BBC selection criteria must have been simply awful for them.
âI donât believe that should be taken as systemic bias. We try very, very hard⌠‘
‘Belief’ of such a level, when matched by failure to deliver so consistently, can indeed by trying.
http://order-order.com/2012/06/22/loony-lefty-loses-it-live-on-bbc-with-toby-young/
‘We’re not going to let you say [what you just said] on BBC News..’
Of all teachers, then, which producer’s iPhone spawned this lovely fellow?
Heat over light. Ratings gold, with agenda to match, so all boxes ticked.
Some reckon he’ll be joining Mr. Marbles, Mr, Hasan and Ms. Penny as a regular now.
Not so sure. If this is what is meant by speaking for the people, the people the BBC pre-pro bookers mix with hardly seem representative.
Or maybe it is actually serving the country, serving up folk like Prescott and this lad to undermine all the advocacy being pumped out to fill the 24/7 news maw, simply by being allowed to open their mouths.
(With apologies to Godwin) Admiral Doenitz, leader of the NSDAP, today issued apologies about the “Baedeker” raids on English towns and was closely questioned by John Humphrys on Today. The admiral confessed that the NSDAP had “got it wrong” and that, were the NSDAP returned to power, “something as yet undisclosed would be done”. Mr Humphrys accepted these statements in good grace and hoped that such mistakes by the NSDAP would never happen again. Admiral Doenitz and Mr Humphrys steered clear of mentioning othe NSDAP policies eg the murder of millions of Jews, and hoped that listeners would also forget those . . er . . unfortunate . . . er . . events.
Later, on Today – in a 15 minute spot after the 8:00 News – there was a Labour party political broadcast in which Humphrys colluded with John Denham to ignore completely the avalanche of Asian immigration under Labour and instead concentrate on – particularly – substantially Polish immigrants (temporary and otherwise) who – for the most part – came here to work for a living rather than go straight onto benefits. Also ignored was the fact that the change in character of certain localities due to EU immigration is as nothing compared to the change in character of whole towns by the non-EU immigrations. Nice – and so “impartial” and “unbiased”.
LoL. Like this too..
Craig â@HappySlayerUK
RT @Ed_Miliband I’ve just kicked a Romanian gypsy. Gillian Duffy seemed pleased.
Mujst be nice to have a ÂŁ4Bpa, 24/7, multi-platform PR machine (not a monopoly) on call.