‘It’s A Worry’….you may have noticed now and again that the good people of the BBC often, inadvertently perhaps, come out with this phrase when the discussion gets around to the EDL presence on our streets.
It’s not a worry that we have Islamic terrorists or terrorist ‘sympathisers’ walking the same streets…that’s celebrating diversity or some such nonsense from the idotic chattering classes that populate the corridors of the BBC.
What is a real worry might be this story……
This is a story that would be a parent’s worst nightmare…a story that you would believe could only have come out of Stalinist Russia or North Korea. But it is happening here in the UK.
This is a story that the BBC can feel proud of itself for having succeeded in whipping up an atmosphere of fear, ignorance, intolerance, bigotry and prejudice against a certain set of people who hold views that the BBC find inimical to their own and therefore are to be crushed,proscribed and silenced.
Ironically this is the BBC that is ever willing to relate how appalling McCarthyism was in the U.S, but who has worked hard, amongst others, to demonise the English Defence League and paint them as racist, violent thugs no better than the BNP and whose ideology is not far off Nazism….and by virtue of that every member of the EDL in a similar light…….some certainly are…..but as with ‘radical’ Muslims, do they represent the majority?
The real truth is that the EDL’s campaign is based on a belief that Islam is a divisive, violent, homophobic, misogynist and intolerant ideology….one that has spread more violence and misery around the world than any other ideology other than Socialism….one that has held back every country that has been wrapped in its dead embrace for centuries.
The EDL’s beliefs have nothing to do with race…considering that Muslims are from all races on earth near enough.
This story concerns a mother, Toni McLeod, a member of the EDL who has admitted to having been violent on demonstrations, though the full context is missing for that, and has had her 3 children removed from her care and has the prospect of her next baby also being removed by social workers.
A major factor in that decision was her membership of the EDL…..her children have been snatched from her by social workers on the basis that they might grow up influenced by her allegedly ‘unacceptable’ views….as the social workers state: “Toni clearly needs to break away from the inappropriate friendships she has through either the EDL or break-off group in order that she can model and display appropriate positive relationships to the baby as he/she grows and develops. Toni has been a prominent member of the EDL. They claim they are a peaceful group, however, they have strong associations with violence and racism.”
‘Social workers fear [her] child would become radicalised with EDL views and want it put up for adoption immediately.’
That might raise a cynical smile or two…social workers taking children into their tender care who then end up on the streets and possibly preyed upon by Muslim men whose own ideology says that these girls are white trash and easy meat. Curious one that. A rather vicious irony….an EDL mother whose children could fall victim to Muslim gangs when taken into ‘protective custody’.
A paradox perhaps that up and down the country in Mosques, madrassas, faith schools and ‘Islamic institutes’ an ideology of hate and apartheid is preached day in day out. And yet there is no move to take these children into care. Wouldn’t it be entirely appropriate that such teachings and the forced ‘conscription’ into the Muslim faith of children who have no choice should be considered child abuse?
One of the things that bothers Toni McLeod most is that the decision to take her future child into care is based less on what McLeod has actually done than on what she might do in the future: ‘There doesn’t need to be any actual proof of anything. It can all be based on possible risk in the future… Like in my case, it’s the likelihood of emotional abuse through radicalisation. The baby’s not even born!’
Her cause has been taken up by Lib Dem MP John Hemming who, despite his loathing for the EDL, raised it in the Commons. He contrasts her treatment with that of the extremist Islamic cleric Abu Qatada, who was allowed to remain with his children when he was briefly remanded on bail earlier this year as the Government tries to deport him.
“It raises a curious question as to why Abu Qatada is allowed to radicalise his children but the state won’t take the chance of allowing Toni McLeod to look after her baby in case she says something social workers won’t like.
“I am very strongly opposed to the EDL, which I believe to be a racist organisation, but I do not think we should remove all of the children of the people who go on their demonstrations, however misguided they may be.”
Mrs McLeod has posted racist abuse on social networking sites but denies being racist. She claims she is no longer active with the EDL and has never been charged with violence against children.
Social workers have told her husband Martyn he would be unable to care for his child because he is a full-time soldier just back from Afghanistan.
Mr Hemming, who chairs the Justice For Families campaign group, said yesterday: “This case is one where the ‘thought police’ have decided to remove her baby at birth because of what she might say to the baby. I wonder what the baby’s father is thinking when he fights for a country which won’t allow him to have a child because of what the child’s mother might say.
“Toni now accepts she was wrong to have gone on EDL demonstrations but freedom of speech means nothing if people are not allowed to say things that are thought to be wrong.”
Yes Toni McLeod probably does have racist views but that is not a reason to take her children away…as said in that case all Muslim children would be removed from their parents care based on their teaching Islamic values to them….‘Believers (Muslims), take neither Jews or the Christians for your friends.’….‘Believers, make war on the infidels who live around you!’ Exortations that are constantly repeated throughout the Koran….perhaps not something that should be drummed into young minds and then expect them to ‘integrate’ into the wider community.
A major point is that it has been the campaign to demonise the EDL that has allowed the social workers to dream up this excuse to take her children and it has been the BBC that has played a major role in promoting that anti-EDL agenda.
Regardless of what you think of the EDL this is a very slippery path down which these social workers are taking us if they are deciding which political views we can hold.
Perhaps the BBC should stick to reporting the news instead of making it.
In the good old days of the Cold War in America you could always find a party, in Soviet Russia the Party would always find you.
Guess we better start dusting off the old jokes.
Yes, very good piece, Alan.
The NUJ is officially opposed to the English Defence League (EDL), and sheep-like, the BBC’s NUJ branches, of which there are very many, reverently propagandise the NUJ trade union political line.
The BBC-NUJ shows no interest in the case of the mother who is having her children taken away because state social workers are politically hostile to her sympathies towards the EDL.
BBC-NUJ’s lack of interest can be taken as its tacit acceptance of state confiscation of what it deems politically undesirable white British citizens.
A recap on ‘SPIKED’ piece:
“Punished for
supporting the EDL?
“A mum in northern England believes her kids were taken because of her political views. She talks to ‘spiked’.
By Patrick Hayes.
http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/12563/
In the past month or so, the English Defence League has joined with the British Freedom Party (which is associated with Paul Weston):-
“EDL Leaders Join British Freedom ”
(video clip).
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/edl-leaders-join-british-freedom.html
Today at Holyrood we had Adolph Salmond condemning the SDL (Scottish Defence League).
With a referendum in the offing he wouldn’t like too much exposure of his party’s support for jihadists and Islamic extremist organisations.
The leftys responsible for the mess society is in will suffer eternal damnation and suffering in the lake of fire.
Everything written in the bible is coming true in front of our eyes.
Most of these lefty/cultural marxists never have children. But think they know it all when it comes to children. The Radical Muslims are only using these leftys when they don’t need them anymore they will do very nasty things to them.
EDL’s racist? No, there’s always a few plonkers in organisations, but there’s regularly non-white speakers at EDL demo’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW-udj5bZco&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBT9aoeXdWM&feature=related
Over the years i’ve seen plenty of other such vid’s as well with other non-white EDL speakers in.
A week or two back, when the BBCs Panorama produced a programme focusing on racism in Poland and the Ukraine, Nick Lowles of Searchlight/Hope Not Hate infamy, proudly announced that he had played a leading role in the BBC programme. To that point, the BBC had hidden that piece of information carefully away. Now Lowles currently, is possibly the leading campaigner in voicing his disdain for the EDL, but as with all of these militant leftist fronts, he says little to nothing about Choudary and his chums….
I don’t need to expand on the hypocrisy of the BBCs position, in having a creature such as Lowles use one of their flagship programmes to pedal his propaganda and hate. For that I’ll refer everyone to another “ANTI FASCIST” movement, telling the story of Lowles and his (hope not) hate.
Why do we allow this to happen?
http://www.borderland.co.uk/index.php/13-searchlighthopenothate/searchlight-hope-not-hate/112-no-hope-lots-of-hate-civil-war-breaks-out-amongst-the-searchlight-gang
http://www.borderland.co.uk/index.php/13-searchlighthopenothate/searchlight-hope-not-hate/43-dummy-article6
The real enemy of the liberal elite is the white English working class. Hence the need to terrororize them into submission. If you see the case of this mother in that light the removal of her children is a political act and nothing to do with child welfare.
A docile working class is the aim .
Now how does a liberal justify this to himself? By believing that anybody who does not subscribe to his world view is not just plain wrong but evil. The doctrine of the historical inevitability of the triumph of the liberal world view will not permit him to think in any other way.
The old saying is worth repeating
Moralists by nature
Bureaucrats by inclination
Tyrants by inevitability.
What will the liberal elite do when the muslims turn on them. I don’t see the white working class or any other group helping them out.
Thank God for the EDL.
The EDL had too many personnel formerly connected with the BNP for my taste but the behaviour of the police and media towards them has brought out the repressive and vicious implications of the alliance from hell between the liberal establishment and the Muslim community. It’s not just a case of the posters at Harry’s Place being overjoyed at the chance of referring to indigenous working class people as scum. There have been too many stories of people going to their demos being misdirected or prevented by the police, kettled demonstrators being let out in dribs and drabs to run the gauntlet of crowds of unsupervised Muslim counter demonstrators, a guy having his arm broken by police when he wasn’t resisting arrest, an incident of a car being driven into a crowd of them in which somebody’s pelvis was broken which wasn’t investigated (by the West Midlands police). It’s as though open season has been declared on them, and nobody has to be too fussy about how they treat them because the authorities will look the other way ( and they haven’ got a battery of campaigning lawyers and an army of middle class agitators to take on he authorities on heir behalf).
What really makes my blood boil is being placed in the position, by the BBC and allies, of defending the EDL/BNP axis of hate. Whatever I think of these people they do not deserve to have their children snatched by the state; especially not a state that is so lamentable at looking after children in care.
The only glimmer of hope on the horizon is that this will happen to someone with the intelligence but more importantly the clout to fight back and expose these child snatchers for the hypocrites that they are.
I won’t hold my breath tho’.
So where do you stand now then Wally, as regards the EDL, given that you abhor the treatment of them as set out by yourself, i would like to know. They are all we have, they deserve support and guidance.
No British Wilders has emerged and .the political elite has successfully imposed a ‘beggars can’t be choosers’ range of options on people who aren’t particularly right wing but wish to oppose any Islamic influence on our society and politics. An organisation built from the bottom up might well be wise to start from faith groups- such as Patrick Sukhdeo’s Barnabus fund – and take on the pro-Palestnian and ‘we all worship the same god’ types who are currently dominating he CoE.
Funnily enough I’ve just be reading about the rise of the Right pre WW2.
It would seem that many of the groups that were set up to either fight tyranny and/or communism ended up either supporting people like Franco or were consumed by the various European Fascist movements.
The big problem with being right wing is that the right is not made up of joiners so you never really get enough like-minded people together to make a difference.
It seems to be much better, if less honourable, to try and influence the bigger players from within than to play it straight from without.
Now then, shall we take bets as to what happens next?
I’ll put my money on her ‘volunteering’ for equality and diversity training, which will be a thinly-disguised pre-requisite (one of many) for getting her children back.
In other words, Room 101.
I find this really, REALLY disturbing. In fact, it’s nothing less than fascism in action. Should a wandering Beeboid happen across this post, a BBC take on the case would be very welcome,
Our once free country becomes more like Orwell’s terrifying nightmare by the minute. The Left have created this hideous multicultural mess whereby the only “proper” response is to pretend that you absolutely love it. And then, when the coast is clear and no one is looking, do like most of the Beeboids do. Move to a lovely little, exclusively white, village where you can pontificate on the unparalled benefits of diversity to your heart’s content.
Just like the Dimbleby brothers and dear old Billy Bragg…
“Yes Toni McLeod probably does have racist views but that is not a reason to take her children away”
The dumb credulity of people on this site never ceases to amaze.
Toni McLeod thinks her unborn child may be put in care because of her membership of the EDL…
Oh right, if that’s what Toni McLeod thinks the reason is; then it must be true.
Can’t possibly be anything to do with the fact she’s already had three other children by three different partners taken into care. Or that she has a string of convictions for violence. Or that she has been banned from owning dogs after setting a pit bull on a former partner. Or that she has a history of alcohol and drug misuse. Or that she has mental health problems.
Duh.
….’as the social workers state: “Toni clearly needs to break away from the inappropriate friendships she has through either the EDL or break-off group in order that she can model and display appropriate positive relationships to the baby as he/she grows and develops. Toni has been a prominent member of the EDL. They claim they are a peaceful group, however, they have strong associations with violence and racism.”
Duh, indeed.
If you bothered to read about this case you would know that it isn’t just the woman at the centre of this that is making these allegations but also her MP and sundry legal bods.
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Can’t possibly be anything to do with the fact she’s already had three other children by three different partners taken into care.
Why were these children taken into care? Do you know the stated reasons of the care workers?
Or that she has a string of convictions for violence.
How long is a string of convictions? What were the convictions and how serious were they?
Or that she has been banned from owning dogs after setting a pit bull on a former partner.
Why did she do this? Was it self defence perhaps? After all according to your own leftist credo a woman is never guilty in a case of domestic violence, only the man is.
Or that she has a history of alcohol and drug misuse.
Does this mean she got pissed once in a while and had a couple of spliffs or that she is/was an addict?
Or that she has mental health problems
The standard accusation made by the left against the those whose views they don’t like. Is this really true? If so what were her conditions? agrophobia perhaps or schizophrenia maybe? Do you know which?
It’s very easy, Dez, to take the word of those you would rather believe against someone you just know you’d hate. But try stopping and thinking for once. Doesn’t this all seem a little bit tired and repetative. Hasn’t this all be said before about others for similar reasons?
Ask yourself how you would react if the same woman had had her kids stolen because she was a member of the SWP. Would she deserve a hearing then?
Shouldn’t you be questioning more and accepting less?
Or are you just a daft troll, Dez?
Obviously, seen as he/she/bit of both says “this site never ceases to amaze”.
Leftie saddo’s conveniently missed the point completely.