Rio Ferdinand agrees Ashley Cole is a ‘Choc Ice’. This is intended as a highly derogatory and insulting comment…it is a racist comment…it infers that someone is acting white or deferring to White society….and is therefore a ‘race traitor’….and that there is something wrong with being ‘White’.
So it infers that it is a peculiarity of a particular Race to act in a certain way.
And to act in a different way is a betrayal of your Race.
No wonder the BBC (at least on the web) haven’t touched this story as it paints a different picture of race in Britain…Blacks are racist too!
It’s not just White people.
The story was in the web editions of the papers last night…it is on the front page of the Guardian and top story in its media section….and yet nothing, zilch, nada, sweet fanny adams from the BBC.
If you google ‘choc ice photo’ there are hundreds of pictures of Ferdinand…..just how far behind is the BBC?
Janice Lavender, Ferdinand’s mother
The irony is that Ferdinand clearly has more ‘white heritage’ in him than Cole…..which begs the question why people insist on classifying themselves as ‘Black’ when they have a White parent….perhaps a confirmation of that other stereotype of the stupidity of footballers when they insult they’re own parents.
Is it any wonder race relations in this country are so poisoned when high profile media providers refuse to open up certain cans of worms and challenge the issues and self characterisations of so called victims.
Here is a man with a white parent, looking more North African than Black, claiming to be Black and denigrating anyone who acts ‘White’, what ever acting White might be.
The guy clearly has ‘issues’ and is not helped by the BBC confirming his prejudices by insisting anyone ‘white’ is a racist.
For the BBC White means racist. Black, Brown, Muslim and you’re the victim of racists.
One last question…just when do you stop being ‘Black’….is there a particular pigment, a tone of skin required…do we need a colour chart from Homebase to grade ourselves? Or is it cultural and social behaviour that categorizes you?
Maybe what Ferdinand is saying is that David Starkey was right…perhaps if more Black youth were ‘choc ices’ and didn’t get caught up in the ‘Gangsta’ culture they might lead happy, successful and fulfilling lives…and the same for the White kids that adopt that same ‘Gangsta’ lifestyle.
why people insist on classifying themselves as ‘Black’ when they have a White parent….perhaps a confirmation of that other stereotype of the stupidity of footballers when they insult they’re own parents.
OBAMA?
Why people insist on classifying themselves?
Because they are encouraged to by the leftist media and the multicultural society imposed upon us by Labour. And it is a useful stick with which to beat up poor old whitey and make him feel guilty about his colonial past.
Just exacerbates division in my book.
So when did it change from ‘Bounty’ to ‘Choc Ice’?
Does that make me a milky bar kid ?
Fred! You return? I thought my unassailable economic prowess had frightened you off for all eternity! Welcome back 🙂
Perhaps Bounty ice cream also applies, as that’s a a bit of a cross between the two.
Seem to remember there was a recent case where someone had used the word ‘coconut’ too.
it used to be coconut! same thing brown outside white in.
Hello,
Have been reading the site for a while and here is my first posting.
I’m curious – well not really – why the Terry/Ferdinand incident has not been compared with the El Hadj Douf/Everton ball boy incident. Douf screamed ‘F**k Off, White Boy’ and though the police investigated he was not charged, and I believe nothing from the FA or the PFA. If I recall Douf’s defence was one of provociation as the ball boy had thown the ball to him ‘like you would a dog’. So a very similar defence to Terry’s, and for that matter Diane Abbott’s about the ‘playing the white man’s game’ as she wasn’t being racist as the words were just taken out of context. Also there is a fat Irish comedian called something like Dara O’Grady who had a coumn in the Guardian at the time of the Douf racist outburst who dismised it a s atrifle saying ‘toughen up white boy’. I’m sure Terry will never get a commnetating job with the BBC so shouldn’t O’Grada (?) be banned also.
‘…as the ball boy had thown the ball to him ‘like you would a dog’. How the heck do you come to this conclusion? Did he shout ‘fetch’ as he threw it?
There have been several cases in recent months of violent, racially-motivated crime against whites but judges decided there was no racist element. Example: group of Muslim women violently attacked a young white woman in the street shouting ‘white slag’ and ‘kill the white bitch’. It was the sort of crime you’d get a at least a year for but the judge excused them with a community sentence because alcohol played a part – in his book, Muslim women aren’t used to drinking alcohol and that was what caused them to lose control.
These double standards just breed resentment and then they wonder why the likes of the EDL gets so much support.
It tells you more about the “red pigs in wigs” appointed during the Dark Ages, the 13 years of Labour rule. Labour may have gone, but everyone they appointed to high office in thirteen years is still there, like sleepers, ready to do their masters bidding. You might as well replace Theresa May overnight with Cherie Blair and see if anyone notices the difference.
You stop being black when the staff stop watching you for shoplifting the moment you walk in the door.
As for this “acting white” business, we have the same phenomenon in the US. There was a good article on it in a local NY paper a while back, and apparently studies show that in mixed-race schools, black kids studying and behaving in school and getting good grades were ridiculed by some other blacks for “acting white”. They literally faced peer pressure to behave poorly and underachieve. But this didn’t happen in schools where there were few or no whites.
Those from ethnic minorities and, of course, Muslims can say anything about a white person/Christian without fear of any reprimand; it ain’t the same the other way round though ; we get the PC Gestapo squads a-knocking at the door even if we criticize the religion of ‘peace’! You be a scumbag paedo groomer or a terrorist illegal immigrant you get sympathy from the PC human rights squadron and a soft sentence. However, you call someone names and you get the whole book chucked at you!
You can go on Youtube and find countless videos of wannabe ‘gangstas’ (C) rapping anti-white racist ass seepage… where are the PC police force???? Not bloody interested!
A) This story is on the front page of the BBC Sport website. B) Alan, you might want to look up the difference between ‘imply’ and ‘infer’.
Yup, the story is up now.
They took their time, though.
And your point is?
It wasn’t on the website at all at time of posting….whereas the papers were reporting it a good 15 hours earlier. …. a white player saying something racist & it would have been front page immediately.
You have no point, but thanks for the grammar tip, you’re obviously a bit of a …well you can infer what I mean.
Perhaps they are starting to get their leads from Biased BBC.
And about bloody time, too.
I think we can assume that an organisation with the resources of the bbc will keep a beady eye on its critics.
Hang on a minute Redwhiteandblue… Aren’t you the smug twit who was on here a few weeks’ ago boasting that you were a follower of that antiquated, rustbucket of a deluded political stance, ‘One Nation Tory’? May I politely suggest that you revise your liberalist fallacy and stick your literacy advice up the proverbial…
Nowt wrong with being a Grammarak – it irritates the heck out of lefty teachers
That’s true!
True – when I was a very young school student (late 1970s) it was still the done thing to have to write out your spelling mistakes repeatedly in the margins.
Lefty teachers hate this – something to do with ‘marginalising’ less able students. 🙂
There was a case in Bristol involving an Afro-Caribbean councillor calling an Asian one a ‘coconut’ in June 2110. She got a 12 month conditional discharge plus £620 costs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10440371
She lost the appeal he following March,2011. The prosecution took place after the Conservative party lodged a formal complaint.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-12685953
Perhaps ‘coconut’ sounds slightly more derogatory than choc ice but, personally, I think the courts have got more serious things to do. Which mediaeval king said, concerning law-suits: ‘the crown does not concern itself with trifles.’?
That makes sense. Everyone knows that female + muslim beats black:
http://dicklist.blogspot.co.uk/2006/07/tdl-gaming-world-series-of-victimhood.html
Equally, if John Terry had had an affair with Wayne Bridge, then you just know Anton Ferdinand would have qualified for the George Zimmerman ‘white hispanic’ makeover.
It will be interesting to see how the BBC handle this one.
If they condemn him, it is an admission that racism is not exclusive to white people – something which goes against everything they preach. If they fail to condemn him, it begs the question “What does being white inside mean?” They have spent years telling us that underneath the skin, we are all the same. So are they saying that we are not all the same – something which goes against everything they preach.
Come on Messrs Scott, Dez, Gregory,Whitman etc, please enlighten us.
It would appear the cherry vulture contribution du jour is more in the area of again (if inadvertently) highlighting the BBC’s curiously slow response times when watertight oversight at the weekends needs a manager contacted at a Tuscan villa soiree, or petty grammar Nazi input. So already this may be a topic where the rest may feel the bunker again has an appeal. Movin’ on…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/9401198/Manchester-United-defender-Rio-Ferdinand-defends-choc-ice-tweet-levelled-at-Chelseas-Ashley-Cole.html
Maybe the BBC expert of choice in such matters, Ms. Jo Brand, could be prevailed upon to offer her unique insight into when such a thing ‘is’ or ‘innit’ racist or nay?
She ate all the choc ices.
Eh? Some petty grammar Nazi input is certainly needed for that contribution. Plus the good offices of the Plain English Society.
‘Gangsta’ culture uses the N word whenever the hell it likes, talks or sings up about violence and killing ‘cops’ whenever the hell it likes, happily calls women hoes/whores whenever the hell it likes. Basically – like now BLATANTLY racist Rio Ferdinand – just spouts ANYTHING…..WHENEVER THE HELL IT LIKES!
Just all a one way street with the thick as pig shit likes of Ferdinand and feel i’ve lost all respect for him even though Man U have always been my 2nd favourite team. It should most definitely now be his turn to be questioned by the police and then be going to court and then be answering to the FA.
Thick twittering twat must be getting more coaching from Diane Abbott than Man U!
Top notch report!, Alan. All well said and absolutely bang on the button!
What’s the first favourite L-L ?
Don’t suppose it begins with a Y does it ?
The Minstermen?
No, johny, biggest Midlands club starting with a W, that ran out of bite this year.
Enough said, don’t wanna talk about it.
Oh, Walsall then. 😉
Who invented the idea that all the races were “equal” – that is, all the same except for that layer of skin on top? Make him head of BBC sitcoms, er, science programmes!
For me, Rio Ferdinand publicly insulting a fellow professional in such a deliberately offensive manner is more of a story than the ‘choc ice’ jibe. Ashley Cole is a bit of a brat but he at least deserves some respect from one of his peers – and a senior peer at that. When it comes to Twitter, though some people just cannot help themselves.
I did see this on the BBC website earlier today, btw. It’s one of the lead stories on the Sport webpages.
Yes it’s on the web now and headline news on the sports page….which begs the question if it is now such a big story why did the BBC ignore it for so long….what was the editorial process that had to be worked through to get them to this point?
Just how many PC hoops were jumped through?
Racism as a concept was invented by Marxists the same as Feminism was. Both concepts are being used by the Left/Cultural Marxists to destroy White European Christian civilisation. By dividing and conquering.
I fear it may be more simple than that. Leftists need to call people names. It makes them feel more strongly righteous. They need to bolster their righteousness because, inevitably, they are found to be wrong. It is too painful to let go their narcisistic image of themselves. “But I care about the poor a
The left has never done anything good. In this country what has it done? The welfare state, NHS etc were not left-wing ideas but came from bismarks government in imperial germany.
And, ‘far-left’, with Madonna, apparently resorting to use of swastika, reported by ‘far-left’ BBC-NUJ, which designates Ms Le Pen as ‘far-right’:-
“France’s National Front to sue Madonna over Le Pen swastika”
[Excerpt of BBC-NUJ’s first words]:
“France’s far-right National Front is to sue Madonna after an image at the US singer’s Paris concert showed party leader Marine Le Pen with a swastika imposed on her face.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18847658
The FN – Front National – not National Front – is a Patriotic French Party whose founder ought the Nazi during WWII. Madonna is an ignorant arse.
“fought”, not “ough”t. Oh for a spell checker in WordPress ASE!
whose founder ought the Nazi during WWII
If you mean Jean-Marie Le Pen, no he didn’t. He was 11 when the war broke out and never fought with the Resistance.
He has also been prosecuted in France for pro-Nazi comments and dismissed the Nazi gas chambers as a “detail of history”.
Are you calling London Calling a ‘choc ice’? Don’t come the acid.
In my experience, non-whites are more racist than whites. Asians think blacks are inferior, blacks hate whites, blacks hate different tribes, arabs hate just about everyone.
But the worst racists are socialists of whatever colour. They just can’t stop themselves hating white people.
Tom Lehrer, must be forty years ago, sang : The black folks hate the white folks, and the white folks hate the black folks, and everyone hates the Jews.”
Except that we don’t hate the Jews; we hate socialists, even if they are Jews.
Lehrer came from an era of American comedy in which it was permitted to say many things in jest, not just left wing things, like the bBC idea of comedy.
Tom Lehrer was an entertainer. The bbc is a propaganda machine. No comparison.
For Chinese it’s called being a banana. Should be fairly obvious.
Britain is the least racist country in Europe.
The English are the Christian equivalent of the Jews in that it seems to be open season on us. To the non Christian world, we can’t do anything right. It’s a good job I have no power, because I’d extirpate all those who speak evil of us, the English, including the socialist excrement in our midst.
Not a very difficult achievement, I’m afraid.
Oh boy this racism stuff’s complicated. There’s me, anglo-saxon heritage, blond when I had hair. Friend of mine. She’s Nigerian. African parentage. So who’s the ‘black’ one? Well I’m a helluva lot darker than she is, for a start. Culturally? Me, the majority of the music I’d play would be classed as ‘music of black origin’. Her, keener on classical, which is by definition almost all white European males, isn’t it? Food? Like a lot of Africans she’s not particularly experimentally minded. Prefers plain food simply cooked. It’s me would be wanting Caribbean, North African cuisine.
As far as I can work out, by most measures I’m black & she’s white.
the problem is that it is not complicated. If normal people like you and I were allowed to live our lives peacefully, then there wouldn’t be a problem. But when socialists get involved, they cause trouble; that’s why they love muslims, in my opinion; both groups love causing trouble. Limited immigration is OK – we don’t care – the immigrants integrate or they bugger off. But once the socialists flood the market, and force people like me to have an opinion about the influx, then I’ afraid you can’t be surprised that we don’t like it. Come here, integrate, be like us, support our country, be English. Then you’re OK. But, come here, diss us, try to undermine our national culture and don’t be surprised that we react. Isn’t that simple? I have relatives who are Anglo-Chinese, Anglo-African and they are as English as I am; not only because of the blood tie; because they behave as we do. But I cannot tolerate immigrants who flaunt their difference and almost demand that I object. The muslims are the most visible example of this aggressive separatism that we see in our country and I hate it. And I will vote for any one who will rid me of this infestation.
Expat – I think that’s called integration, which allows people to respect, share and get enjoyment from each other’s differences, whilst at the same time recognising and respecting what it is that binds us together. It’s how societies evolve. The Left hate it.
I await for a determined prosecution by the CPS, with the full endorsement of the bBC. Okay I will go to a dark room and stay until the thought passes.
Where I come from the term used was always “bounty Bar”.
One of my best friends is a bounty bar. Genuinely. Pmsl.
Choc Ice, anyone?
Not if you are tuned to 5 Live.
This must be an important story because, as Nicky Campbell and Rachel Burden off handedly tell me, they:
‘….have had a couple of texts and tweets about that….’
Quick, move on!
Now that it has gone black-on-black or is that black-on-white (or chocolate against vanilla? – I’m so confused), I get the impression that Salford local radio has lost interest in the racism in football story.
What to talk about?
Domestic violence!
I will stick my neck out here and guess that once the kids have been distracted and the whippy van has moved on out of sight they will soon return to the subject of John Terry.
Normal service will be resumed
The spinners are already at work!
Yesterday’s BBC sports page included a piece by John Amaechi (the first NBA player to “come out” as being gay and therefore someone who arguably knows a fair bit about prejudice) stating in no uncertain terms that Choc Ice was “a deeply offensive term with racial connotations”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18847477
However that wasn’t quite on message and today another article appears by Mr Amaechi entitled “FA must takes decisive action over John Terry case” (note the title carefully) which ignores all references to Rio and his comments.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18848273
The icing on the cake is the banner headline
scrolling across the main sports site as follows “Former NBA basketball star and psychologist John Amaechi calls on FA to take swift and decisive action against John Terry”.
Note the difference:-
Banner “decisive action AGAINST John Terry”
Actual article “decisive action OVER John Terry case”
Normal service in the process of being resumed.
I see that the unfounded and completely subjective claims get more biased and preposterous as the weeks go relentlessly by. One could be forgiven for calling this site: Biased ‘Biased’ BBC
We just don’t like double standards, that’s all.
Play a lot of sport do we ?
Rugby League ?
Rounders with the girlies ? (Sorry, wrong gender).
No, you are far too busy studying your Thesaurus to come up with new fantastic words to comment on a subject you clearly know nothing about !
No wonder you never got picked for anything.
Donkey, give some examples. Or are you just here to make baseless accusations as before? If you haven’t got anything to say you might as well join a left-wing blog like a BBC one where any old rubbish is received gratefully as long as it is from the left.
Rechecked the bBC site this morning. Must be nine or 10 articles that refer to the story. However the part about ‘choc- ice’; not a mention or even a hint. Again proof of the deliberate PC editing by the bBC. So someone, Rio, who makes a big noise about the Terry case they quote. Then within one day of the judgement Rio makes a racist jibe. not a word.
Come on, Al-Beeb,…we’re waiting….VERY patiently..
Where’s the daily full blown racism frenzy now on your TV and radio news over what antagonising Anton Ferdinand’s saddo twattering-addict “bruv” said?
Come on, come on, WHERE IS IT??!!
You were straight on John Terry’s back and frenziedly couldn’t stop banging on enough that to you ludicrously biased leftie fucktards he was practically a member of the Klu Klux fuckin Klan!! But your usual sly trial-by-TV efforts didn’t fuckin work again!, did they?
So, as I said, WHERE’S the racism frenzy now with Rio Ferdinand then, eh??????
Your constantly laughable gutless conveniences fool NO-one really! You complete and utter BritishBrainwashingCOWARDS!!!!!!!