190 Responses to OPEN THREAD…

  1. Guest Who says:

    The twitterverse seems alive at the moment to the latest stunt by that peace loving bunch of misunderstood mysoginists the BBC seem so close to and keen to understand… I of course mean the Taliban.
    However their culture of abuses of young girls do rather go too much further, too often.
    But maybe a little less seeing their point of view might help lessons get learned out there once the notion sinks in here?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19882799
    I am pleased to see the BBC is on the case, but still have to wonder how this kind of sentence trips out quite so easily…
    ‘A Pakistani Taliban spokesman told the BBC they carried out the attack.’
    Guessing they don’t dare run a source or accuracy check on these guys any more than they do Mr. Serwotka’s PR missives, much less a bit of challenging interviewing back.
    At least the attack was not deemed ‘daring’ or ‘audacious’ for once.
    Especially as it appears she became a target for a special reason.
    ‘In the diary, which she kept for the BBC’s Urdu service under a pen name, she exposed the suffering caused by the militants as they ruled.’
    As Orlaa’ G’s report concludes:
    ‘a very disturbing message to all those working for women and girls.’
    So true, wherever this may be.

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  2. zemplar says:

    I saw a bit of that ‘Creationism’ thing on the BBC last night. It was all “here are some looney, retarded Christians who believe in creationism”, then it cut to a shot of a women holding a sign saying “defeat Obama in 2012”.

    You can’t even make this crap up with the BBC.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The BBC – particularly Justin Webb – vilified Sarah Palin because they assumed she’s not only a Creationist (a broad range of beliefs), but was one of those who believe the earth is 6000 years old. Webb suggested on air that she should be disqualified from holding public office because of it.

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      • Alex says:

        But, if she were Muslim he would stay silent on issues pertaining to Koranic scripture, or he’d be vociferously trumpeting her minority rights.

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  3. zemplar says:

    George R,

    Re. Lyse Doucet. I thought I’d seen it all when it comes to that dhimmi crap, but Christ, I tell you what, I have now…

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  4. jarwill101 says:

    Interesting counterpoint to the somewhat foolhardy optimism that characterised much of the BBC’s coverage of the ‘Arab Spring’:
    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1774/a_storm_of_massive_proportions_is_brewing_in_the_mideast

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  5. uncle bup says:

    Another day and yet again the best thing the 5 Lite droids can find to ‘attack’ the tories with is Andrew Mitchell aka yawngate.

    ‘Worrid the Prime minister say…?”

    Wy d’yer think the police lied about this?’,

    ‘Bu wy woo the police lie about this?

    said Gameshow to Hague. And on and on and on – yap yap yap – ever the attack chihuahua.

    Eventually Hague tired of this and slapped Gameshow down with,

    ‘I spend my time concentrating on Syria, Afghanistan, and Iran’s nuclear ambitions’.

    Pinhead joined in with,

    ‘Mitchellgate even got a mention on Strictly on Saturday night… This is BIG !!!!! This has got into the nation’s bloodstream.’

    F*** me gently. No, Pinhead, Iran wanting to nuke Israel is BIG!!!!! Civil war in Syria is BIG!!!!! Our lads being killed in Afghanistan is BIG!!!!! Strictly Come Dancing is small, in fact it’s infinitesimal.

    They of course both failed to branch out their careers. Pinhead wanted to appear in a Celebrity Boxing programme but the BBC elfnsafety banned it.

    And Gameshow auditioned for Loose Women (aka Lunchtime Slags) but failed as tests showed he didn’t have enough testosterone.

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    • uncle bup says:

      Ah I feel better now.

      Always nice to take the red hot poker of Gameshow’s hypocrisy, sanctimony, and bias and ram it up his skinny Scottish jacksie.

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  6. As I See It says:

    Ee by gum….it’s grim oop North…..

    And it’s more socialist……

    Boris Johnson, London Mayor and, no doubt, beneficiary of some of the BBC’s very own Olympic hype, has become rather popular.

    So at the start of The One Show the Beeb put out the counter narrative. ‘Well, they might like him in London but Boris doesn’t go over too well in the regions.’

    So, first item at the top of The One Show……
    Is it about vegetarian badgers?
    Welsh speaking puffins?

    No, it’s a vox pop from Glasgow put on to show how locals, Rab C Nesbit and Hen, are not so keen on Boris.

    Meanwhile 5 Live prepare to bring us Octoberfest.

    South German-themed beerfestival? Has EU integration gone that far? No no no.

    “Join Nicky Campbell for 5 live Breakfast: Your Call as he takes listeners’ calls on whether there’s a north / south divide in the cost of living, and how people are coping in the recession.”

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  7. George R says:

    RIOTERS.

    BBC-NUJ wouldn’t want to relegate reports which might reveal the nature of the rioters of August, 2011, would it?

    -From BBC-NUJ’s ‘England/Birmingham-Black Country’ local page:

    “Birmingham riots: Men jailed for attack on police”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-19886439

    ‘Daily Mail’ with more details:

    “Hooded pair who were in rioting gang which fired gun at police helicopter are jailed for a total of 64 years”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215208/Jailed-Gangsters-shot-police-officers-force-helicopter-luring-scene-firebombing-pub-summer-riots.html#ixzz28sm26D4t
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  8. George R says:

    “Holding the BBC to its obligations”

    http://hurryupharry.org/2012/10/10/holding-the-bbc-to-its-obligations/?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Interesting piece.
      Many issues raised, questions being asked, and demands to account for.
      ‘the BBC is largely self-regulated, with self-commissioned reports into its accuracy and impartiality usually being compiled by figures from within the media industry (often former and/or current BBC employees) and an existing institutional culture within the BBC hampering its meeting of legally-defined obligations.’
      One not exactly ‘working’ for them across the board even now.

      ‘the BBC is in a virtually unique position as an opinion-shaper due to a near unprecedented outreach.’
      Virtually? A 24/7, multi-platform outreach driven by a £4Bpa budget. Piped ‘for free’ at just £142.50, and guaranteed an audience by all those who agree to feed it content to reach that audience.
      With, in complement, near totally unregulated social media influence via a staff unafraid to use the BBC brand to push their personal interests.
      ‘.. as its representatives often say – the BBC has a reputation for being both independent and trustworthy ‘. Those representatives being mainly from a very predictable pool, too often then filtered back by the BBC about itself.
      ‘That is a trust which cannot be allowed to be neglected or abused.. Too late, mate.
      ‘…minds are being made up on the basis of information put out by the BBC.’
      Control the edit; you control the message.
      Control the message, you control the ‘facts’.
      Control the ‘facts’, you shape opinion.
      Shape opinion, you shape policy.
      Shape policy and you are in control.
      Propaganda backed by censorship, and the compulsion to support no matter what is contrary to free speech rights and democratic principles.

      We….‘… are legally entitled to receive… accurate and impartial news, information and analysis.’
      I don’t think I do. I suspect I am not alone.
      Why I am I, and others, forced to accept this on pain of fine or jail?
      I’ve asked my MP, but he is either too keen on the DP sofa or too frightened of what lies beyond that parapet to his career to say anything much less see how inaction will make him a one-term deal.
      Whatever will effect change, it won’t be from within Westminster.

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  9. noggin says:

    al bbc? … you could always offer them this, as a supplent
    to their, biased, airbrushed, deliberately deceitful view of islam …
    … don t think it ll be on al bbc for christmas 😀 do you

    battle of vienna trailer

    http://youtu.be/AIh6Wcenw0k

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    • As I See It says:

      I look forward to Mark Kermode’s review of that one, he is usually such a big fan of foreign cinema.

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    • Earls court says:

      The battle of vienna will be fought in every city where the ‘multicultural utopia’ has been created.
      I hope the Muslims use the BBC employees or their fellow left-wing, socialists, Marxist comrades as human shields. Then both sides can get rid of the people responsible for this mess.

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  10. noggin says:

    time to give pakistan the south africa treatment?
    i agree heartily
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/10/time-to-give-pakistan-the-south-african-treatment.html.

    al bbc? .. hmm just concerned with ahem! “offence”?

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    • chrisH says:

      A fine brave woman, traduced by that shortbread harpie fully bought up by Scottish Labour.
      When else does the BBC try to pop at a black woman who was nearly killed by those who butchered Theo Van Gogh?
      Hisri Ali is safe in Boston, U.S.A…had she been fool enough to settle in Boston, Lincolnshire ;Wark would happily have passed her address on to Bunglawhalla, Choudhury or any quisling of Islamic terror.
      God Bless the USA…and may He ensure that the likes of Kirsty get implicated in Savilegate or “Fiddle your f***in Taxes”gate….wonder if either one will let Andrew Mitchell through it, for fun?

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    • Regag says:

      Yes, Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s straight talking exposes the devious cowardliness of the BBC.

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  11. chrisH says:

    I`ve said this elsewhere, but this Open Thread seems to be the highway to grumpiness, not a side road!
    So it is that I say again-only the BBC would show archive clips of their Jimmy meeting…Thatcher and John Paul2-as opposed to the countless times he`d have been filmed by them as he met…Blair, Brown, Charles/Di, Muhammad Ali and all the secular saints of Beebland.
    Truly disgraceful-and what`s the betting that they`re not using that woman they employed to Photoshop the Queen a few years back?
    If you see Ronald Reagan puffing his way through the Scarborough half marathon…you`ll know that the BBC fixed THIS for Jimmy…in return for all the favours that HE did for Beeboids over the 50 years they employed this weirdo.
    Any chance of me getting that Savile fancy dress at reduced rate at the moment I wonder?
    Does Sky have any clips of Jimmy meeting Birt, Patten, Grade, Carlton-Greene I ask myself?….come ON Rupert!

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  12. Beeboidal says:

    Mark Mardell told us that Romney’s good performance in the
    in the debate was all very well, but if it didn’t shift the polls he is in deep trouble. So it’s a kind of important moment in the election. Well, you can read how Romney has shifted the polls in two articles by Mardell which are headlined

    Sesame Street urges Obama campaign to drop Big Bird ad

    In-a-flap Obama turns to Big Bird

    Clearly I was wrong. Big Bird’s spat with the Obama campaign is more important and deserves the headlines.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Romney is tied or leading in a few swing states, and well up overall. The BBC refuses to acknowledge this. The only admission comes from the latest tweet from Katty Kay where she says this puts more pressure on Romney for the 2nd debate. No pressure on President Choom, then, Katty? Any thoughts on how His campaign team is being revamped, they’re in panic mode?

      There’s basically no reason to trust the BBC on US issues. Unless it’s celebrity gossip, or one of those “bespoke” lightweight video magazine pieces, I guess.

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  13. George R says:

    Islamic jihadists in UK, OK?

    Tacit support from INBBC and Tories for anti-Assad Islamic jihadists to be based in UK?

    “Terror police hold two at Heathrow”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19892869

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  14. David Lamb says:

    The Home Secretary appears to have cleared the way for this BBC hero, Abu Quatada, to be tried in Jordan. But in the second sentence of the report Al Beeb points out that he has not been charged with any crime in Britain. Keep backing the enemies. It is time this fifth column propaganda outfit was broken up and replaced.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19891520

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  15. DYKEVISION says:

    1155: Stephanie Flanders Economics editor
    emails: In his speech Cameron talks about the NHS but can they tell us how many of the Cabinet have private health insurance?!
    Twat Stef Flaccid is at again, impartial and hypercritical as ever!

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    • DYKEVISION says:

      and hypocritical as well!

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    • zemplar says:

      I bet Flanders has got BUPA on speed-dial. There’s no way ANY of those Gramscian toe-rags, certainly the ones who aren’t mere gofers, don’t have private medical insurance…

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    • Glen Slagg says:

      What is her point? It’s like saying “Cameron talks about bus services but how many of the cabinet have private cars?”. As far as I know, having private health insurance doesn’t undermine the NHS in any way – you still have to pay for the NHS whether you use it or not.

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      • Guest Who says:

        I think her point is that if there is anything that is not on the approved list, especially anything aspirational, it must be dragged down past their level and destroyed. No matter how hypocritical their taking advantage of any opportunity has been, is or will be.
        Like private education. Yes there is a tax break, but otherwise what anyone forks out to spare their kids Tony & Gord’s awesome educational legacy via certain state centres of excellence is on top of what they are also chipping in on the local bright sparks whose parents are not so committed. And no refunds.
        Her mindset in matters financial therefore is squarely in BBC unique territory. Where that is probably only Messrs Balls and Miliband can truly confirm.
        If she came out with that about the Conservative Front Bench without a nod to practices across the floor and around the M25eratti politico-media set, including many or most of her colleagues, she has crossed quite a line.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Oh, noes, the dreaded “two-tiered” system! As with everything else, it’s not equality of opportunity they want, it’s equality of outcome.

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  16. George R says:

    Dangers of take-over of BAC.

    Con Coughlin seems to grasp the main point:

    “We can’t allow Germany and France to run our defence industry”

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/concoughlin/100184457/we-cant-allow-germany-and-france-to-run-our-defence-industry/

    Robert Peston doesn’t grasp the main point:

    “BAE-EADS merger decision due as deadline looms”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19894050

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  17. George R says:

    INBBC touts: Spanish Civil War = Syrian Civil War.

    INBBC propagandises a Muslim’s false Islamic comparison of
    Spanish Civil War of 1930s, and Syrian Civil War now.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19882416

    And this is how the dangerous INBBC utopians see the world:

    -for them, the ‘rebels’ in Syria are not really Islamic jihadists, but heroic fighters for a new wonderful Islamic Republic of Syria, which we in the West should support with our money and our lives!

    (Note to INBBC: read Orwell’s ‘Homage to Catalonia’.)

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    • David Lamb says:

      If the BBC and the leftists supporters of the heroic Syrian fighters are serious in their analogy with the Spanish Civil War then I would love to see the creation of an International Brigade consisting of the Trots, Class War Anarchists, UAF street fighters, and the interfaith community organizations. They could bugger off to Syria, along with the heroic tell-it-all BBC journos, and leave us in peace.

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      • Earls court says:

        The BBC and the left-wing are cowards. If anything bad happens they run away and hide. I know this from personal experience.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    When there’s a train crash already in progress, karma has a nifty and wicked sense of irony as she sends another down the same track..
    http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/09/10/2012/118586/fury-over-eastenders-misleading-social-work-storyline.htm
    There is a fair bit to savour with who is upset with whom about what, but I merely for now note..
    ‘”I complained straight away to the BBC … the reply the BBC sent me was a joke.”
    That would be thanks to the unique way they don’t really need to give a rat’s pitootie… for now.
    Here’s another…
    http://www.communitycare.co.uk/blogs/childrens-services-blog/2012/10/eastenders-portrayal-of-social-work-left-me-in-tears.html
    In addition to apparently choosing to selectively answer and of course ignore what didn’t suit, here we go again..
    ‘we believe the audience will have understood.’
    One is sure they were comfortable with that too. But the BBC’s belief in the value of their beliefs are rather stretching belief these days.

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  19. noggin says:

    tariq jahan gets the “speak as long as you like” treatment
    over any decision to make a fortune for lawyers, on 5live this morning, approx 10.15am,
    goodness! … he is practically fawned over as a “peace sage” over a speech at THE “riots” that the bbc is constantly obsessed with

    which doesn t quite tie in with this, from BEFORE his
    riot performance
    “Mindless violence”
    dad attacked, punched/kicked factory worker for ‘staring at his wife’
    Tariq Jahan spared jail after being convicted of grievous bodily harm
    D Mirror.

    is it possible he is not just an ordinary white …
    oops sorry 😀 of course i do mean,”asian”
    it is the al bbc. after all.

    all before extolling the virtues of the .. ta-ra!
    sharia? … yes, 1.45ish wheeling out the “go to guy”
    … yep MCB s Mogra … to discuss the depths of
    whether it is permissable for footballers to wear
    “wonga” shirts …
    “we better find out what the sharia says” bleats our
    al bbc airhead …. hilarious ;-D

    and … why? … should we care? .. are we in pakistan?

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    • noggin says:

      drive program 5live.
      continuing al bbc s promotion of sharia, on what we can/cannot wear re “wonga” shirts at Newcastle,
      sooo … they pull in a MCBs Mogra again, and …
      muslim convert (Christian 😀 ), who s … ahem “expertise”?? is fighting islamophobia? …..
      yep! that invented term, false construct, deliberate attempt to conflate criticism of a belief-system with hatred of a people for the colour of their skin.
      i.e. B/S
      anyway these pair of financial geniuses, hold 5live s drive team transfixed … as they bleat all things sharia. (shakes head)

      “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” — Voltaire

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  20. As I See It says:

    What do we think about this then?

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/info/about-ourbeeb

    “Launched in May as an independent section of openDemocracy, ourBeeb.com is a digital challenge to the old order, seeking to make the BBC’s next Director General truly accountable to the public, and debate the future of our BBC”

    I’d be interested to know what others here may know about this initiative and what reactions they may have.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Someone here (sorry, forgot who) recently linked to an article there about how the BBC was biased against the NHS and toeing the Coalition line. After I was done wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes, I had a look around and found a couple of interesting things which made me think the site might be worth keeping an eye on for a while.

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      • Guest Who says:

        This feeds firmly into the ‘if the head’s in the oven and the feet are in the freezer’ school of BBC CSI, that will claim on average, based on the temperature midway, the corpse is healthy.

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      • Guest Who says:

        More seriously, if they think they are going to get anywhere on subjective areas, or even bias based on hard to prove weightings, even with a Craig they are in for a world of pain and disappointment.
        But I wish ’em luck.
        More fruitful are areas of inaccuracy, but again that can be fraught.
        What I do find interesting is, no matter what direction approached from, the BBC’s handling of complaints is getting a kicking for simply being arrogant, smug and hollow.
        It seems they too are less than impressed with stock BBC responses.
        Hence maybe it can be agreed that as they are serving few and answerable to no one, perhaps those still keen can stump up and allow the rest less enamoured to opt out?
        The only alternative currently is pointless sites garnering only 12million views and having no impact bar endless CECUTT applicants trying to boost their CVs by coming here to get offended and say how pointless it all is.
        Which actually at least serves as the comedy output now sadly so lacking from the BBC.
        I wonder if the cherry vulture flock be attracted there too to mount a defence, or will more be spawned to deal with threats from a new front?
        Not exactly indicative of great trust and treasuring from the home crowd, is it?

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  21. zemplar says:

    Just caught a bit of something called ‘Horrible Histories’ on BBC1. Looks like it was a ‘The Crusades’ history for kiddies. I thought “alright, here we go – this should be interesting…”

    And sure enough, the Crusaders were described as sometime cannibals who ate the flesh of their enemies.

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  22. Daniel Smith says:

    I watched that Creationism conspiracy road trip last night. An extremely onesided and pointless ‘documentary’ therefore well up to BBC3’s low standard.
    I should say I am a Darwinian and have no doubt that evolution is correct but the premise of this programme seemed solely to be Christian bashing. A Muslim was rather unconvincingly added to the bus load of creationists- oddly since nothing of the Koran was challenged (unsurprisingly) only the Bible. In the end, this Muslim said triumphantly “The Bible has not emerged well, evolution has not emerged well, only Islam has emerged well,” which I guess was an honest enough evaluation of the programme (if not the BBC’s entire output).
    The agenda of the programme was obviously a metropolitan liberal excuse to laugh at stupid American Republicans dressed up feebly as an open minded attempt to talk about facts.
    When they were on their way to see a chimpanzee the alleged comedian and presenter made this telling ‘joke’: “We’re now on our way to meet our closet relative, who shares 97% of our DNA- George Bush!” That’s BBC topical satire for you, a tired joke about someone who’s been out of office for 4 years. So pointless was the trip to see the chimp that I get the distinct impression that it was set up purely to make the joke!
    A couple of the Christians realised they were being set up and started to challenge the narrative of the film makers. Obviously this was edited in such a way as to make them seem unreasonable, but I did feel some admiration for them standing up for their beliefs even if I do not share them.

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  23. George R says:

    INBBC censors UK-SYRIA-UK Islamic jihad nexus?

    INBBC’s anodyne ‘reporting’:

    “Terror suspects probed over kidnap of UK photographer”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19892869

    In contrast:

    a.)

    “Heathrow arrests: are Islamists training in Syria for attacks in UK?
    “Terror arrests reflect a new mood of apprehension over the fallout from the Arab Spring.”

    By Robert Fox.

    Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/49488/heathrow-arrests-are-islamists-training-syria-attacks-uk#ixzz28umt9GK8

    b.)

    “Terror police hold British man and woman at Heathrow on suspicion of kidnapping British photographer in Syria .”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2215480/Terror-police-hold-British-man-woman-Heathrow-suspicion-kidnapping-British-photographer-Syria.html#ixzz28ulm1nxf
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    c.)

    “Dewsbury to Damascus: The danger of young British Muslims learning to wage Jihad in Syria.”
    By MICHAEL BURLEIGH.

    (Aug, 2012).
    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2189192/How-British-jihadists-causing-mayhem-Syria.html#ixzz28uqqdoQq
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  24. George R says:

    SHARIA LAW v. WONGA,
    at Newcastle.

    INBBC hasn’t reported this yet, but I think we know whose side it’s on:-

    “Newcastle United’s Muslim players told wearing Wonga-sponsored shirts infringes Sharia law.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/newcastle-united/9598023/Newcastle-Uniteds-Muslim-players-told-wearing-Wonga-sponsored-shirts-infringes-Sharia-law.html

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    • noggin says:

      maybe missed this george

      “tariq jahan gets the “speak as long as you like” treatment
      over any decision to make a fortune for lawyers, on 5live this morning, approx 10.15am,
      goodness! … he is practically fawned over as a “peace sage” over a speech at THE “riots” that the bbc is constantly obsessed with

      which doesn t quite tie in with this, from BEFORE his
      riot performance
      “Mindless violence”
      dad attacked, punched/kicked factory worker for ‘staring at his wife’
      Tariq Jahan spared jail after being convicted of grievous bodily harm
      D Mirror.

      is it possible he is not just an ordinary white …
      oops sorry of course i do mean,”asian”
      it is the al bbc. after all.

      all before extolling the virtues of the .. ta-ra!
      sharia? … yes, 1.45ish wheeling out the “go to guy”
      … yep MCB s Mogra … to discuss the depths of
      whether it is permissable for footballers to wear
      “wonga” shirts …
      “we better find out what the sharia says” bleats our
      al bbc airhead …. hilarious ;-D

      and … why? … should we care? .. are we in pakistan?

      “how do we solve a problem like shariaaaa”
      al bbc – you don t

      drive news program 5live.
      continuing al bbc s promotion of sharia, on what we can/cannot wear re “wonga” shirts at Newcastle,
      sooo … they pull in a MCBs Mogra again, and …
      muslim convert (Christian ), who s … ahem “expertise”?? is fighting islamophobia?
      yep! that invented term, false construct, deliberate attempt to conflate criticism of a belief-system with hatred of a people for the colour of their skin.
      i.e. B/S

      anyway these pair of financial geniuses,
      simply hold 5live s drive team transfixed, (not difficult)

      as they bleat all things sharia. (shakes head)

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      • As I See It says:

        “….to discuss the depths of whether it is permissable for footballers to wear“wonga” shirts …
        “we better find out what the sharia says” bleats our al bbc airhead ”

        Someone should point out that they play in the Barclays Premier League. Now last time I looked Barclays were keen to charge me interest on loans. This Sharia nonsense is solicited to add to the leftwing attacks on Wonga and to BBC anti coalition noth/south divide propaganda.

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  25. +james says:

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    • zemplar says:

      And published by the BBC, no less. Superb.

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    • chrisH says:

      Brilliant-I`d put this out on Facebook or some Twitter type-proceeds to go to Children in Need of course, and the original photographer to get an award!
      Brilliant.
      “Top Pops and fun games on the stage with Jimmy “was his slogan round Salford Youth Clubs in the 60s, so I understand!
      DLT may know more.
      Bet the BBC would prefer a posthumous witch hunt over “payola” now wouldn`t they?-would not surprise me that they begin THAT sideline to take our attention away!

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  26. Deborah says:

    Just how warped are the BBC. 6pm BBC news? They managed to find a Jimmy Saville look alike at the Conservative conference – definitely the one for the camera to focus on.

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  27. #88 says:

    More Savile:

    I tend to watch ITV News now because Tom Bradby is by some distance the most able and balanced political commentator in Britain today.
    But tonight there was an interesting exchange between an ITV reporter and BBC’s Patten, over the Savile allegations.
    Patten observed that an independent inquiry had been called and went on to say that the BBC had called the police in ‘from the outset’. She pointed out that they hadn’t, Newsnight were on to this last year and ITV had broadcast the expose. Flustered, he said that the Newsnight programme had been pulled for editorial reasons (not the question she asked).
    In doing so Patten was spouting the approved BBC line. What possible use is an inquiry when Patten, Entwistle and Jordan already have their answers / excuses lined up and their lines to take?
    What a corrupt and opaque organisation.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘went on to say that the BBC had called the police in ‘from the outset’. She pointed out that they hadn’t… Flustered, he said that the Newsnight programme had been pulled for editorial reasons (not the question she asked).’
      So…. the guy at the very top is pulling the same default stunt that is first response from the lowest CECUTT minion in being called on a lie.
      And he is the one overseeing this so-called ‘independent’ inquiry?
      I wonder if a CEO in front of a Paxo would find such a claim and attempt calmly accepted?
      Meanwhile in other news SKY is on screen now referring to ‘pressure mounting on the BBC’ and citing headlines across the entire MSM.
      They do seem to be struggling in their accounts when the spotlight is rotated back on them.

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    • Zemplar says:

      My TV producer mate who told me about Savile’s ‘antics’ back in ’94 tells me the BBC let him run riot because he was their conduit to the Royal family. He knew them all personally from his charity work, and was the one who always opened and kept open the lines of communication between the Royals and the Beeb. Jim Moir of Radio 2 did all the negotiating with the household flunkies when it was to be done, but Savile was The King Fixer, The King Smoother. He was also involved, allegedly I might add (ahem!), in “organising parties” for Ted Heath and his “confirmed bachelor” friends. Just sayin’ what I’ve been told by an always reliable source…

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  28. jonsuk says:

    SCD….the BBC’s 4 month version of gay pride

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  29. Reed says:

    Expect this to be burried, Balen style…

    The BBC’s news coverage of religion, immigration and Europe is to be scrutinised in an independent review following accusations of liberal bias.

    Lord Patten, the BBC Trust chairman, said the review was an acknowledgment of “real and interesting” concerns from some quarters about the impartiality of the BBC’s news coverage.

    The corporation has long faced accusations of liberal and leftwing bias from politicians and other sections of the media.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/10/bbc-review-liberal-bias

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘an acknowledgment of “real and interesting” concerns’
      This smacks of a Private Eye-style allusion like ‘tired and emotional’.
      Guessing ‘real and interesting’ is code for ‘lots of licence fee money blown on looking like looking at things that will be then popped in the ‘Beware the Leopard’ cupboard with all the rest… because, uniquely, we still can’.

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  30. Dave666 says:

    I sat there last night watching Watchdog wondering why I was watching it. To be specific Rick Wakeman (wonder how much he got paid and if they wan’t “grumpy” reporters..well you know my address BBc), reporting on “loyalty” schemes. It seems a bit mean to whine about something you are getting without without an up front payment. I use the Morrisons petrol point scheme, because the petrol is normally cheaper than the other garages and I’ve had £10.00 shopping for free since we started, and I don’t do steller milages.

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  31. As I See It says:

    An amusing example of Casual Leftism from a luvvie last night on BBC’s Who Do You Think You Are.

    Celia Imrie is learning the details of the life and travails of one of her ancestors and remarks

    “She battled the establishment – my kind of gel”

    (She is talking about a noblewoman of the Stuart court Frances Carr, Countess of Somerset, daughter of Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk, Earl Marshal).

    Now I can understand why it is that actors are drawn to make these casual leftist exclamations.

    It is a tough life up there on the boards. The notion that your very livelihood – not to mention your self-esteem – are regularly put at the mercy of the fickle whim of the next audience of hoi poli must concentrate the mind in very a special way.

    Who can blame the luvvies for gushing the mantra ‘Love me people…love me…please love me…I’m really just like you!’

    So although I would like to think that the BBC would rein them in a little, I can’t really begrudge the luvvies their little bit of casual leftism.

    Afterall the job of the luvvies is to amuse us.

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    • Umbongo says:

      Who do you think you are? is a brilliant concept marred (but not always fatally) by its permanent mindset of assessing the behaviour of our ancestors on the “gold standard” of 2012 pieties. IMHO last night’s episode was the dullest yet, largely consisting of Imrie extolling her son’s devotion to Labour and Tony Benn and of her reading out loud ancient manuscripts concerning her ancestors.
      The failure here was the lack of any mystery. Celia Imrie – or her aunt – already had a family tree tracing Imrie’s ancestry (on her mother’s side) back to the court of Henry VIII. Although Imrie insisted that she always prevented her ma telling her about her family’s history, frankly I think she’s lying. Her faux-humility (“I’m prolier than you”) is hauntingly similar to that of the Benn family who are now in the fifth generation of Labour entitlement.
      All we actually got last night was a ponderously told history lesson which informed us (surprise!) that the aristocracy under James I were always jockeying for position and seeking the king’s favour. To be fair, Lord Russell – under a later Stewart – did the exact opposite and came a cropper: he was stitched up by the Tory (oh yes!!) government (the Tory/Whig differences were rather more subtle but why let a matter of historical interpretation get in the way of an indirect smear?) for advocating an act of parliament to ensure a Protestant succession. Imrie’s patent embarrassment about her ancestor’s staunch anti-Catholicism was successfully brushed from view or, rather, diverted to a celebration of his undoubted courage in the face of execution.
      Altogether, this was a pedestrian exploration of 16th and 17th century politics and yet another revelation of a preening lefty’s embarrassment concerning her (very) non-proletarian background. As to her grandfather’s dismissal of her father being in “trade” (despite being a doctor – GP probably although this wasn’t made clear), again this is assessing a pre-WW2 aristocrat’s view of social class on the basis of 2012 manners. Regrettable, no doubt, but that’s the way things were and that’s the way class “worked” then. At least Imrie’s grandfather was honest about his views. Contrast the evident contempt of people like Benn, Harman, Margaret Hodge and Shirley Williams – and most probably Imrie herself – for the middle class and working class who have “got on” (or rather, in the Labour/BBC/Guardian lexicon of villainy, those who have “betrayed” their working class roots).

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      • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

        And she couldn’t even keep telling us that she went to a comprehensive school!

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  32. TomR says:

    Replace ‘Amen’ with ‘Allahu Akhbar’ and imagine if you could find it on the BBC website.

    “The fringe event – normally sedate affairs, with bored activists picking over sandwiches – felt more like a revivalist meeting. They shouted, they cheered. They cried out “Amen”.

    It’s a shame really, as the rest of the article was quite good.

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  33. George R says:

    ‘Telegraph’ report:-
    “BBC ‘liberal bias’ on religion and immigration to be reviewed.
    “An independent review of the BBC’s coverage of certain controversial topics will be carried out amid concerns over the broadcaster’s impartiality.”

    Opening excerpt:-

    “The BBC’s alleged ‘liberal bias’ is to be investigated in a new independent review of its coverage.
    “The review will scrutinise in particular how the broadcaster deals with the controversial topics of religion, immigration and Europe amid concerns about its impartiality.
    “Its coverage of Islamophobia may also come under the spotlight.
    “Lord Patten, chairman of the BBC Trust, said the review would focus on the topics that spark the most concern from the corporation’s critics.
    “’The subjects we thought we would cover, because they are subjects we have had criticism from time to time about breadth of voice issues, are Europe, immigration and religion,’ he told a Broadcasting Press Guild lunch yesterday.”

    Are the headlines of this ‘independent’ review already being written?:-

    ‘BBC gets it just about right on impartiality.’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9600831/BBC-liberal-bias-on-religion-and-immigration-to-be-reviewed.html

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    • Guest Who says:

      Top comment:

      ‘The BBC “investigating” itself for bias… goes without saying they will find themselves innocent. Millions from our licence fees spent on giving themselves a pat on the back.’
      And the default attempt at dismissal from the house troll getting short shrift.
      What used to work appears to be more of a liability now.

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    • Umbongo says:

      Stuart Prebble – the chosen investigator – although he’s got ITV tattooed on his forehead, is a staunch lefty media personality in the BBC mould. For instance, Prebble produced/edited the staunchly left of centre agit-prop programme World in Action for Granada encouraged by Granada’s owner, Sidney Bernstein, as lefty a businessman as you could get outside Eastern Europe. So, again, the BBC “Trust” appoints, effectively, one of the BBC’s own to undertake an “independent” review. I wonder what Stuart’s report will say.

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      • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

        David Vance picked up this Prebble story when it first came out on 3 August.
        http://biasedbbc.tv/2012/08/03/youve-got-a-friend-2/
        Well worth re-reading the comments there.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘I wonder what Stuart’s report will say.”
        There’s an episode of ‘Yes, Minister’ that probably covers it.
        Thing is, that was back then, and as many are wont to claim, ‘it was a different time’.
        Stitch ups by old boy networks in the internet age are trickier to schmooze past the public now.

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      • Guest Who says:

        As a brief musing, speaking of appointing one’s own, Mr. Patten using £300k of our money to get Mr. Entwhistle from the office next door might have proven an inspired investment, given what has, is and looks like decorating the fan for a while, and our George’s not unrelated history to a key aspect that has spun it all up.
        I think it was Alistair Campbell who came up with either some rule about becoming the story or how toast you are if it is still headlines after a certain period.
        One is sure that his contract will not allow him to go unrewarded by the licence fee payer should events unfold not necessarily to his advantage, but this time there may be some collateral damage spread a fair way around too.

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  34. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    Victoria Derbyshire’s phone-in this morning: “How let down do you feel by Lance Armstrong?”
    She kept repeating, to every caller, not “How do you feel” but “How let down do you feel”, just to make sure that the biased script was being followed.
    Next episode “How let down do you feel by the BBC?”???

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘“How let down do you feel”
      The irony of our Lance basically overseeing a culture of omerta by fear (allegedly), and veiled mutterings on charitable causes suffering by questions being asked, rather passing the good lady by?

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    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘How let down do you feel?’ What? Did Armstrong make some personal promise to these callers? Why has everybody got to feel some kind of emotion about every news event these days, however far removed from their own personal lives it might be?

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  35. George R says:

    ‘The Times’ (£)

    “BBC forced into U-turn on how it pays biggest names”

    (page 12).

    Excerpt:

    “Those affected face pay cuts of up to 40 per cent because the BBC will become liable for national insurance contributions among other employment costs.”

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article3564745.ece

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  36. will says:

    Wonders will never cease!
    This long article
    Ukraine takes aim against ‘gay propaganda’
    By David Stern BBC News, Kiev

    fails to name Baroness Thatcher or Section 28

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19881905

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    • Earls court says:

      Ukaine is like this country was before the swinging 60’s.
      When will all these homsexual rights people wake up and see they are only being used by the Cultural Marxists to destroy Christian/Judeo religion and the family.
      Once they have outlived their usefulness, they will thrown under a bus by their Socialists Comrades.

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  37. As I See It says:

    The BBC now seem to have eased off from their recent bout of banjo duelling with the residents of Machynlleh.

    plinka-plink-plink-plink-plink-plink-pling

    It can be a pain but it is a cross that I have to bear that my antenna begins to twitch when I sense our national broadcaster to be embellishing, redacting, or otherwise adapting a news story to suit a left liberal palette.

    The earliest descriptions of the locality in west Wales which are the home to this tragedy began to sound odd to me. BBC reporters spoke of a remote place to which one might be drawn; not for a higher standard of living but for a simpler life.

    plinka-plink-plink-plink-plink-plink-pling

    That jarred somehow with the usual BBC narative of our shared – indeed universal – desires for and anger at a lack of economic growth.

    Next BBC reporters were at pains to point out that although the missing child was very young and was playing out she was on a friendly and community spirited estate. A radio report conjoured up images of a green surrounded by cottages upon which childern happily played safely overlooked by loving parents at their kitchen windows.

    Only when the garbled decsriptions of the colour of the car which might have been seen were released did it sink in that the children were still out at dusk.

    Only when I saw a tabloid aerial photograph of the estate did I notice: firstly, that this was a modern housing estate (contrary to my imagined rural idyll): and, perhaps more importantly, did I notice that the place of probable abduction was not in fact in line of sight from the girl’s home as the BBC report had led me to assume.

    Then there was a rather odd (to my mind) statement from a relative. On a BBC TV report the viewer was informed that the 5 year old was ‘learning Welsh’

    “Men of Harlech, march to glory,Victory is hov’ring o’er ye…”

    Now before she would have been able to star in her first Eisteddfod, I’m sure the 5 year old would also be learning her colours, her numbers and to diffentiate between various farm animals.

    Casual Anglophobia? Are we saying this child is more worthy than my London based children who are sadly unversed in the Welsh language?

    This was from an ordinary local, but let’s be honest; the Beeboids control the edit suite and can very easily prompt and cajole. How often do we hear the questions that elicit such statements? In any case do the BBC not set the media atmosphere in which this woman thought that her statement might provoke increased sympathy?

    And at last today I learn (not from the BBC) of the ‘tangled family ties between Mark Bridger and April Jones’

    plinka-plink-plink-plink-plink-plink-pling

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9600265/The-tangled-family-ties-between-Mark-Bridger-and-April-Jones.html

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Not to mention the number of times ‘Ma-cunt-leth’ (apologies for phonetic spelling) was mentioned in each and every report, just to remind us Little Englanders that we’ve got a long way to go when it comes to the correct pronunciation of Welsh place names.

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        You can say that again matey! But hey it aint easy!
        I have been disappointed by our dear INBBC of late, who have no clues how to say it, but in the past would have managed a perfect “ndabaninge sithole”
        yes that was sithole, not…oh never mind. Angela ripoff usd to do it perfectly. They also managed tahrir square! But Welsh?no clue….

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  38. George R says:

    ‘The Moral Maze’, BBC Radio 4, 10 Oct:

    “The Morality of Public Service Broadcasting”

    (43 min audio, I-player)

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01n6rsm

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  39. David Preiser (USA) says:

    The BBC has a page up about the two running mates in the US election, comparing and contrasting Rep. Ryan with VP Biden. I could spend time complaining about how they chose positive stuff for Biden as opposed to more negative bio bits about Ryan (mentioning that Ryan was voted “biggest brown-noser” in high school, while Biden struggled with a stutter as a child – a contrast in sympathetic portraiture), but I’d rather point out how the BBC calls Ryan “”Darling of the Tea Party movement”.

    I’d like to see one single example of the BBC calling any Democrat the “darling” of any group, especially an example of the BBC calling the President anyone’s darling. They only ever do it with Republicans and the Tea Party, which is why I like to call the Occupiers “darlings of the BBC” (besides which, it’s true). The pejorative connotations are very obvious, just another example of an institutional editorial bias at the BBC. There’s no directive to do it, it’s not in the style guide or anything: it just happens naturally because BBC News Online editors think that way.

    Aside from that, here’s something to consider when watching (or hearing or reading about afterwards) tonight’s VP debate, something the BBC will not tell you: the moderator, Martha Raddatz, is a personal friend of the President.

    Her ex-husband was His friend at Harvard and colleague at the Law Review. Not only that, but her ex is currently head of the FCC, part of His Administration, personally appointed by the President. There are conflicting stories on whether or not He attended her wedding. Her ex-husband is a long-time close friend of the President, who helped proofread the most famous autobiography in history which everyone who enthused about it at the time seems not to have read, and is thanked in the acknowledgments.

    I suppose we can pretend that Raddatz will be impartial or even antagonistic to the President because spouses tend to stop being friends with their exes’ friends, but it ain’t bloody likely. They divorced in ’97, but if she had even the most tenuous personal connection to Ryan, the US MSM would be screaming blue murder about it, and the BBC would dutifully jump on the bandwagon.

    You won’t hear about that at all, though. I have no idea who is going to win tonight, although just like most other sane people I assume Ryan will do better than loopy Biden. The great age difference might evoke more sympathy for Biden, but who knows? I don’t think anyone really knows what’s going to happen, although the stakes tonight are kind of reversed from last week. Just like everyone in the MSM expected the President to be brilliant and for Romney to bumble, most expect Ryan to excel over Biden. So there’s a similar danger for Ryan if he only does okay, and gets damned for not living up to lofty expectations.

    The Leftoids in the media (whom Mark Mardell admits make up the bulk of it) have been bitching that Jim Lehrer allowed Romney to walk all over the President and thus ruined the debate, so let’s see how they react to this one. You can bet Raddatz will be expected to be more assertive, but that can favor one debater over the other, depending on how she chooses to do it.

    Either way, watch with skepticism.

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