Why hasn’t Lord Patten resigned yet? He is clinging on to his quanocracy but he needs to go. The BBC Trust is now the BBC DISTRUST. Go, in god’s name, Patten, and go now.
He’ll go in about 3 days time, just as interest in this story is ebbing. He’ll take with him any chance of proper reform of the BBC.
This is a stitch-up. Cameroon isn’t really a Tory and a wide open goal for the Right in Britain is going to be deliberately missed by the BBC’s choice of “Tory” PM.
For shame.
Imagine the scene, with the crisis in full swing at the BBC, and the outcry following Entwistle’s departure and receiving a £1.32M payout, some bright spark thought it would be a good idea to hire a helicopter at £1500 per hour to fly above their HQ.
This is what the BBC calls ‘creativity’.
This is why the licence fee funding for this stupid arrogant ignorant propaganda machine must be terminated.
A helicopter view of Broadcasting House reminds us all that its profile, viewed from the north, is a giant V-sign, symbolising how it treats those who are forced to pay for it.
Newsnight could have used that money to hire somebody to send an email to Lord McAlpine before going to air, and show a photo of him to Messham. Shame the cash was in the budget of a different department.
‘Shame the cash was in the budget of a different department.’
Worth running that by Paxman, J… for comment, though he appears to have gone for the ‘I interview; not answer’ route of Mr. Patten.
At least we now appear to have a list of 26/1 folk the BBC can reach quite easily on the public’s behalf (or, all things considered, better we do it for them…for a fee) to ask what they think of this ‘investment’… in carbon/climate sense.
I for one would be keen on what they had to offer with their vast experience in such matters.
There is something about this whole episode which stinks to high heaven. It is alleged that Patten, who is head of the BBC Trust, which is there to ensure the BBC provides value for money and stays within the remit of it’s Charter, in other words behaves properly and impartially but not to have control over it’s output and content, was made well aware of the Newsnight programme and it’s content. That was something which, it would seem, was kept well away from the knowledge of the new Director General, the person who was supposed to have overall control of the BBC’s, and therefore Newsnight’s, output and content.
Patten, in his wisdom, or could that be his mischief making, thought it improper to inform the DG of what was about to be broadcast and, with his closeness to the top during the Thatcher Era, would most probably have been aware of McAlpine’s innocence, a man with who, it would appear, he held animosity against.
Could it be that the DG was deliberately kept out of the loop because there was a suspicion he would have blocked the programme until proper enquiries had been made about it’s validity whilst others were determned it went out in the hope of distracting attention from the BBC’s own involvement with paedophilia thereby taking the heat off the BBC who could then concentrate attention elsewhere?
During today BBC Radio have had item after item blowing the BBC’s own trumpet about how wonderful the are and how, without them, civilisation as we know it would crumble and die. At times it was quite nauseating to listen too. The problem, of course, was not with the BBC but will all those competitors and nasty opponents who all had it in for them and were stirring up a witch-hunt. Well, the BBC knows all about those, don’t they? When it comes to witch-hunts the BBC have vast experience at organising and running such things against any opposition as their recent activities have well displayed.
The BBC’s attitude is that they have done absolutely nothing wrong and it is all a big conspiracy to make the BBC look bad, as if they needed any help in that.
‘Patten, in his wisdom, or could that be his mischief making, thought it improper to inform the DG of what was about to be broadcast..’
Frankly, nonsense. Incurious George was busy making a speech at some PSB jolly. In anycase don’t you remember how he made a point of ‘not knowing’ about the original Savile Newsnight report? Even when MPs questioned this he was quite unrepentant on this Chinese Wall between top management and the news division.
Yes but we all know the answer they will come up with and it will be confirmed by interviewing an endless stream of their supporters which sadly seems to include most Tory MPs.
Has anyone heard an interview on the BBC about the recent and current crisis where the interviewee was hostile to the BBC? I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be able to fill that role but the BBC doesn’t want to hear from them. So much for balance and impartiality.
One thing the Timid Tories should know is that by being nice to the BBC in its time of trouble they won’t get any favours once it gets back in its stride.
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Trevor Kavanagh really laid into them on the R4’s Today his morning – they would have double-double-checked if it had been a Labour peer but didn’t with a Tory one because they were blinded by wishful thinking.
about 8.40 – too early for an iplayer link.
His criticism of Patten and Beeb bias is no less cogent, for being printed in the chatterati-despised Sun.
The bBBC have been busy interviewing other bBBC and ex-bBBC people all day with a constant propaganda stream of how wonderful the bBBC is.
If there was an annual prize for self-praise and self-promotion the bBBC would win it outright every year.
She also opened the segment on Hakuna Matada going free on bail by asking, “Should we set the law aside”? Which is the lamest kind of straw man, which Universal Shami was there to knock down with a waggle of her righteous finger. Then there was a guy on next to her to suggest that maybe it should be a decision for British courts and not the European one, but then the debate became two against one.
Meet the new bias, same as the old bias. Nothing will change without a purge.
Looked relatively-clean shaven last night though.
Yet she seemed overly-exercised by losing Qatadas prime whiskers to an envious nation.
She still letting Libyans buy degrees at the LSE?…as if the BBC would ever question this Olympic Champion of Underprivilege.
That white tracksuit needs to be a Bagram jump suit…traitor!
Who else will objectively scrutinise the cherished, utterly flawless BBC in such a fair and impartial way as I? Who else will ensure the taxpayers get good value for money if not I, who is even generous enough to award 400k+ bonus payoffs of taxpayer money for to my incompetent cronies
No, I will think you will find that I am as equally loved, trusted and respected as the BBC itself. I shall be going nowhere.
Why must he go now? What has he done wrong that he can or cannot correct?
Reading a few of your posts, and I sense expressions of desperation. Could it be that you’re considering being faced with the prospect that you might have to begin thinking for yourself if the BBC goes down? Must be a shaky time for you.
To answer your question – the man is supposed to be the head of TRUST.
When it was first made public recently that the Savile Newsnight report was dropped last year, and questions were raised, both Patten and Savile announced that it had been dropped for editorial reasons, and an enquiry was not necessary.
The man is supposed to head TRUST. Yet he did not find out if that was indeed the case,as it soon emerged it wasn’t following further pressure – he chose instead to parrot the desired reason, rather than the actual one.
A man that really has TRUST at hear would have asked questions first, and institued an enquiry first – NOT AFTER.
This is just the beginning of what he’s DONE – and hasn’t DONE.
‘I sense expressions of desperation’
The Force is ebbing with this one. As it’s the done thing, I simply can’t believe two others still exist to add likes to his drivel.
Did Helen Boaden & Comical Ali bring up Andrew Marr’s other love child?
He also appears to be the one the cherry vulture inner circle has kicked out the nest to stave off the circling wolves as they await the next strategic tack fax from head office.
The metaphor for BBC market rate boardroom behaviour is uncanny.
Maybe we need David Attenbourgh to do a ‘Career Death in the BBC Serengeti’ or ‘The Secret Life of BBC Market Rates’ series…? £4Bpa buys a lot of nectar… but once seduced in…
Prole I agree. Patten must stay. He is a source of such joy. Incompetence made large in the world . We need men like him.
As to DV. It is his blog and it would be a shame if it went along with him.
What would some of us get to do in the evening. Watch TV?
“Why did the PM pick Lord Patten to oversee the BBC?”
By EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE (23 October, 2012):-
“BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten, 68, looked unsettled in a Sky TV interview about the Savile sex scandal last night.
“Why did the Prime Minister pick him to oversee the Corporation?
“After the ‘wet’ former Tory MP lost his Bath seat 20 years ago, he became our governor in Hong Kong. His assistant was ambitious politico Ed Llewellyn.
“When Patten became European Commissioner, Llewellyn became his chef de cabinet.
“Now Old Etonian Llewellyn, 48, is David Cameron’s chief of staff. Well placed to do his old boss a favour, no? Piccolo mondo! ”
I met Patten’s daughter (Kate) about 20 years ago, at a diplomatic shindig in Montevideo. Lot more attractive than her dad but, apparently, she works for the BBC now!
Keep it in the family, eh? Trebles all round!
BBC breakfast right now sucking up to Seb Coe on the sofa.
perhaps wanting to hark back to all that euphoria of the olympics, or more sinisterly, lining him up for next Trust Chairmanship?
Holy Moses!
Bloke you hired from down the corridor (at a cost of £330,000) only required to get 6 months hush money… um… ‘severance’ pay having seen his previous wedge double and get covered while the other bloke (on even more) was still there… 12.
Consistent at least. Oh, hang on, it seems to vary in different directions depending on oddly familiar BBC self-interested value sets.
Stickler, Newsnight & OTT claims @Telegraph http://soc.li/Kpc4MYW ‘BBC journalist before he joined the bureau’
Who goes around comes around?
…hearing loss… blindness…
And talking of cover-ups (or not) and bBBC incompetence, their published version of the FoI request asking how much time Patten spent on BBC business clearly shows the name and e-mail address of the person making the request. It looks like they have attempted to ‘redact’ them but failed.
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I see a ‘Patten’ emerging, here… A Patten of distrust!
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He’ll go in about 3 days time, just as interest in this story is ebbing. He’ll take with him any chance of proper reform of the BBC.
This is a stitch-up. Cameroon isn’t really a Tory and a wide open goal for the Right in Britain is going to be deliberately missed by the BBC’s choice of “Tory” PM.
For shame.
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I see it another way. The longer he is in the worse it gets for the BBC. So stay on.
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Imagine the scene, with the crisis in full swing at the BBC, and the outcry following Entwistle’s departure and receiving a £1.32M payout, some bright spark thought it would be a good idea to hire a helicopter at £1500 per hour to fly above their HQ.
This is what the BBC calls ‘creativity’.
This is why the licence fee funding for this stupid arrogant ignorant propaganda machine must be terminated.
Nero fiddled – the BBC sends up a helicopter
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A helicopter view of Broadcasting House reminds us all that its profile, viewed from the north, is a giant V-sign, symbolising how it treats those who are forced to pay for it.
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Newsnight could have used that money to hire somebody to send an email to Lord McAlpine before going to air, and show a photo of him to Messham. Shame the cash was in the budget of a different department.
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‘Shame the cash was in the budget of a different department.’
Worth running that by Paxman, J… for comment, though he appears to have gone for the ‘I interview; not answer’ route of Mr. Patten.
At least we now appear to have a list of 26/1 folk the BBC can reach quite easily on the public’s behalf (or, all things considered, better we do it for them…for a fee) to ask what they think of this ‘investment’… in carbon/climate sense.
I for one would be keen on what they had to offer with their vast experience in such matters.
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There is something about this whole episode which stinks to high heaven. It is alleged that Patten, who is head of the BBC Trust, which is there to ensure the BBC provides value for money and stays within the remit of it’s Charter, in other words behaves properly and impartially but not to have control over it’s output and content, was made well aware of the Newsnight programme and it’s content. That was something which, it would seem, was kept well away from the knowledge of the new Director General, the person who was supposed to have overall control of the BBC’s, and therefore Newsnight’s, output and content.
Patten, in his wisdom, or could that be his mischief making, thought it improper to inform the DG of what was about to be broadcast and, with his closeness to the top during the Thatcher Era, would most probably have been aware of McAlpine’s innocence, a man with who, it would appear, he held animosity against.
Could it be that the DG was deliberately kept out of the loop because there was a suspicion he would have blocked the programme until proper enquiries had been made about it’s validity whilst others were determned it went out in the hope of distracting attention from the BBC’s own involvement with paedophilia thereby taking the heat off the BBC who could then concentrate attention elsewhere?
During today BBC Radio have had item after item blowing the BBC’s own trumpet about how wonderful the are and how, without them, civilisation as we know it would crumble and die. At times it was quite nauseating to listen too. The problem, of course, was not with the BBC but will all those competitors and nasty opponents who all had it in for them and were stirring up a witch-hunt. Well, the BBC knows all about those, don’t they? When it comes to witch-hunts the BBC have vast experience at organising and running such things against any opposition as their recent activities have well displayed.
The BBC’s attitude is that they have done absolutely nothing wrong and it is all a big conspiracy to make the BBC look bad, as if they needed any help in that.
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‘Patten, in his wisdom, or could that be his mischief making, thought it improper to inform the DG of what was about to be broadcast..’
Frankly, nonsense. Incurious George was busy making a speech at some PSB jolly. In anycase don’t you remember how he made a point of ‘not knowing’ about the original Savile Newsnight report? Even when MPs questioned this he was quite unrepentant on this Chinese Wall between top management and the news division.
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Newsnight has begun, with emily titless: who is there to discuss things?…alan yentob, yes the bbc talks to the bbc. INCEST or what?
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Emily just said ‘Does the BBC deserve the TV Licence?’
Wow, even they are questioning it.
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Ish.
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Yes but we all know the answer they will come up with and it will be confirmed by interviewing an endless stream of their supporters which sadly seems to include most Tory MPs.
Has anyone heard an interview on the BBC about the recent and current crisis where the interviewee was hostile to the BBC? I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be able to fill that role but the BBC doesn’t want to hear from them. So much for balance and impartiality.
One thing the Timid Tories should know is that by being nice to the BBC in its time of trouble they won’t get any favours once it gets back in its stride.
The
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Trevor Kavanagh really laid into them on the R4’s Today his morning – they would have double-double-checked if it had been a Labour peer but didn’t with a Tory one because they were blinded by wishful thinking.
about 8.40 – too early for an iplayer link.
His criticism of Patten and Beeb bias is no less cogent, for being printed in the chatterati-despised Sun.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4614758/TREVOR-KAVANAGH-BBCs-Lord-Smug-has-lost-our-Trust.html
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4614758/TREVOR-KAVANAGH-BBCs-Lord-Smug-has-lost-our-Trust.html
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sorry about duplicating link
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Beeb on beeb interview. It’s the safe thing to do. They are also implementing a policy of boring us all into quiescence.
Meanwhile Allegra goes on doing the job of the official opposition. Tory Cutz, Tory Cutz, Tory Cutz!
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The bBBC have been busy interviewing other bBBC and ex-bBBC people all day with a constant propaganda stream of how wonderful the bBBC is.
If there was an annual prize for self-praise and self-promotion the bBBC would win it outright every year.
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She also opened the segment on Hakuna Matada going free on bail by asking, “Should we set the law aside”? Which is the lamest kind of straw man, which Universal Shami was there to knock down with a waggle of her righteous finger. Then there was a guy on next to her to suggest that maybe it should be a decision for British courts and not the European one, but then the debate became two against one.
Meet the new bias, same as the old bias. Nothing will change without a purge.
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I thought shami was there to talk about her Movember ‘tache
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Looked relatively-clean shaven last night though.
Yet she seemed overly-exercised by losing Qatadas prime whiskers to an envious nation.
She still letting Libyans buy degrees at the LSE?…as if the BBC would ever question this Olympic Champion of Underprivilege.
That white tracksuit needs to be a Bagram jump suit…traitor!
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Don’t be silly!
Who else will objectively scrutinise the cherished, utterly flawless BBC in such a fair and impartial way as I? Who else will ensure the taxpayers get good value for money if not I, who is even generous enough to award 400k+ bonus payoffs of taxpayer money for to my incompetent cronies
No, I will think you will find that I am as equally loved, trusted and respected as the BBC itself. I shall be going nowhere.
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They should have this chap straight out to lunch and check he is in fact sound. Best way for a chap to deal with another chap in a crisis.
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Where is the evidence for your statement? Why must he go now? What has he done wrong that he can or cannot correct?
Of course that might mean an answer of greater depth than a line but have a go. Explain.
Go on, in God’s name, Vance, and go on now!
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Why must he go now? What has he done wrong that he can or cannot correct?
Reading a few of your posts, and I sense expressions of desperation. Could it be that you’re considering being faced with the prospect that you might have to begin thinking for yourself if the BBC goes down? Must be a shaky time for you.
To answer your question – the man is supposed to be the head of TRUST.
When it was first made public recently that the Savile Newsnight report was dropped last year, and questions were raised, both Patten and Savile announced that it had been dropped for editorial reasons, and an enquiry was not necessary.
The man is supposed to head TRUST. Yet he did not find out if that was indeed the case,as it soon emerged it wasn’t following further pressure – he chose instead to parrot the desired reason, rather than the actual one.
A man that really has TRUST at hear would have asked questions first, and institued an enquiry first – NOT AFTER.
This is just the beginning of what he’s DONE – and hasn’t DONE.
Do you get it now?
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Should be Patten and Entwistle
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‘I sense expressions of desperation’
The Force is ebbing with this one. As it’s the done thing, I simply can’t believe two others still exist to add likes to his drivel.
Did Helen Boaden & Comical Ali bring up Andrew Marr’s other love child?
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He also appears to be the one the cherry vulture inner circle has kicked out the nest to stave off the circling wolves as they await the next strategic tack fax from head office.
The metaphor for BBC market rate boardroom behaviour is uncanny.
Maybe we need David Attenbourgh to do a ‘Career Death in the BBC Serengeti’ or ‘The Secret Life of BBC Market Rates’ series…? £4Bpa buys a lot of nectar… but once seduced in…
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Prole I agree. Patten must stay. He is a source of such joy. Incompetence made large in the world . We need men like him.
As to DV. It is his blog and it would be a shame if it went along with him.
What would some of us get to do in the evening. Watch TV?
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Poor Prole, he sounds just like an angrywhiteoldman.
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He actually sounds like an angryconfusedwhitelittleboy
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actually he sounds like an idiot
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It is just the impotent rage of a BBC loving lefty seeing his beloved broadcaster tear itself apart.
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I spotted the SUN today re Patten with a great headline….Toast Man Patt.
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Why Cameron probably won’t sack Patten:
“Why did the PM pick Lord Patten to oversee the BBC?”
By EPHRAIM HARDCASTLE (23 October, 2012):-
“BBC Trust chairman Lord Patten, 68, looked unsettled in a Sky TV interview about the Savile sex scandal last night.
“Why did the Prime Minister pick him to oversee the Corporation?
“After the ‘wet’ former Tory MP lost his Bath seat 20 years ago, he became our governor in Hong Kong. His assistant was ambitious politico Ed Llewellyn.
“When Patten became European Commissioner, Llewellyn became his chef de cabinet.
“Now Old Etonian Llewellyn, 48, is David Cameron’s chief of staff. Well placed to do his old boss a favour, no? Piccolo mondo! ”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2223224/Why-did-David-Cameron-pick-Lord-Patten-oversee-BBC.html
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I met Patten’s daughter (Kate) about 20 years ago, at a diplomatic shindig in Montevideo. Lot more attractive than her dad but, apparently, she works for the BBC now!
Keep it in the family, eh? Trebles all round!
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BBC breakfast right now sucking up to Seb Coe on the sofa.
perhaps wanting to hark back to all that euphoria of the olympics, or more sinisterly, lining him up for next Trust Chairmanship?
Holy Moses!
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“Exclusive: Lord Patten’s Two Day Weeks”
http://order-order.com/2012/11/13/exclusive-lord-pattens-two-day-weeks/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+guidofawkes+%28Guy+Fawkes%27+blog+of+parliamentary+plots%2C+rumours+and+conspiracy%29
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But… that works by BBC ‘Unique Maths’.
Required to work and paid for 4 days… work 2.
Bloke you hired from down the corridor (at a cost of £330,000) only required to get 6 months hush money… um… ‘severance’ pay having seen his previous wedge double and get covered while the other bloke (on even more) was still there… 12.
Consistent at least. Oh, hang on, it seems to vary in different directions depending on oddly familiar BBC self-interested value sets.
‘Honour’ amongst who again?
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“A cover-up at the BBC? Periscopes down. Dive, dive, dive!”
By QUENTIN LETTS.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2232086/A-cover-BBC-Periscopes-Dive-dive-dive.html
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Stickler, Newsnight & OTT claims @Telegraph http://soc.li/Kpc4MYW
‘BBC journalist before he joined the bureau’
Who goes around comes around?
…hearing loss… blindness…
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And talking of cover-ups (or not) and bBBC incompetence, their published version of the FoI request asking how much time Patten spent on BBC business clearly shows the name and e-mail address of the person making the request. It looks like they have attempted to ‘redact’ them but failed.
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