Paul Mason continues the class war…..
Paul Mason ?@paulmasonnews
Leveson day semiology: men in ties w plummy voices defending “freedom of press”; victims and relatives rarely given same status of voice
Really? Thought that was what Leveson was all about.…and hardly off BBC.
When do the people get a say on immigration or Europe or Islam on the BBC?
Wrong victims, Alan.
Not wrong victims: wrong perpetrators. Apparently it’s like Palestinians or similar: the BBC values them only according to who does them wrong. If the perpetrators aren’t in the BBC’s crosshairs, the victims are of less value.
victims and relatives rarely given same status of voice
Despite being a Marxist twit he is sounding like a bit sanctimonious here and the reason is that the BBC must keep this ‘victims’ being ignored/shat-on narrative going if they are to reverse the kudos Cameron won for being very sensible over Leverson (in marked contrast to Ed Miliband!).
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2012/12/should-we-treat-phone-hacking-victims-as-experts-on-press-regulation/
http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/7850988/experts-in-suffering/
Every BBC day semiology: men in suits w ecky-thump voices asking ‘victims’ and relatives constantly how angry they are & where to protest, with an iPhone App t’boot’
Unleash… the Laurie!
The man is nothing more than an activist with a microphone…. and a very unique pulpit.
Thanks for pointing this out. I have never seen the establishment as panicked as it was on Leveson day. I still can’t work out why.
erm, no, establishment probably a a lot more in tune with public sentiment and refusing to subscribe to faux leftie outrage, as feebly organised by bbc.
Any plans to do a Newsnight special on the Charlene Downes case, and give her relatives a voice?
Or Operation “Ore”.
You are one of the diamonds of ‘the establishment’, Paul, despite your rebellious persona. Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
The day ‘the establishment’, of which Mr Mason is an over-remunerated, indulged, court ‘fool’, really begins to panic, will be when British people get non-establishment politicians that respond to popular opinion. On that day, the locks on the students’ union debating society will be changed, & the keys given to grown-ups: Mister Guevara, he dead.
I thought that the liberal left , championed by it monopoly broadcaster was the new establishment. After all it controls just about every public institution in the country. The only pockets of resistance to this liberal left tide of 30 years duration are private institutions, companies and individuals.
The BBC thinks that those of us who still cherish British Culture and don’t want multiculturalism and statism foisted on us by them, are racist or stupid or very old , or even all three.
Well I’m not any of those and the BBC can go whistle for its next License Fee from me.
Well done. Join the ever-swelling ranks. I’m damned if I’m paying for some fifty year old adolescent to go swanning off to Greece to be filmed sipping champagne with a bunch of work-shy ‘anarchist’ fucktards.
31 approvals this hate drivel foul mouth rant! Based BBC, the home of sensible debate.
I’m surprised you didn’t throw in ‘vile’ aswell – “Vile, hate-filled rant” – it’s the usual form.
Don’t be so thin-skinned – there was nothing particularly beyond the pale about that comment – just a bit sweary. We’ve all done it once in a while, even those of us who try our best not to.
Did you accidentally leave on caps lock, Prole – or have you taken to yelling your name in order to attract attention?
32 now, keep up!
and the odd visiting low IQ troll
Dez will post from the night shift!
No more hate-driven than some of the rantings of Brigstocke et al. The Left like to dish out crude and stupid insults at their ideological opponents, but by heck, do they not like doses of their own medicine !
I do apologise DOLE, I really shouldn’t speak ill of these brave warriors who stand up for all that is good by going on violent rampages, hurling petrol bombs at the police, and destroying other people’s property.
Dr Joe Smith said in his directive for climate change positioning in the BBC;
“The self-perception of news media is that they cast, direct, and stage-manage the public’s notion of life beyond immediate lived experience. Certainly, there is little arguing that the mass media are a key location for the social production—including the definition and evaluation—of risks.”
So the perception is that they, and only they that control and manage the people and the state.
This statement reflects their mindset and the state of the nation.
‘the lived experience‘ being cold, wet summers rather than dry hot ones, cold snowy winters rather than warm wet ones, Manhattan still above water, Europes ski industry still doing very nicely thanks to loads of snow, temperatures failing to rise, climate models up the spout, the AGW industry flouting its own proscription of air travel, Climategate, ‘hide the decline’, etc etc
However, the implementation of one particular aspect of Leveson could see the ‘sceptics’ view silenced once and for all – this is the recommendation that lobby groups should be able to submit complaints to the regulator just because a newspaper doesn’t comply with their own narrow agenda. So, for example, ‘Engage’ are already positioning themselves to end ‘discriminatory’ reporting about Muslims. You bet they will be the tip of the iceberg, which is why Miliband and Harman are falling over themselves to see Leveson implemented in full – it’s a leftist’s wet dream charter for controlling the press, eh comrades?
‘Engage’ are already positioning themselves to end ‘discriminatory’ reporting about Muslims’
Like this?:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20571996
‘One woman said she changed her Muslim-sounding name ‘
Was this source in any way substantiated? Or did the BBC just take a press release (or leak solely to them, as I can’t locate it anywhere else) and run all its claims on faith, as they are wont to do now?
’offered the job when the women were sacked for incompetence’
This could easily have been the same process that saw the new DG crowned.
Maybe because they knew the chance of a fair truthful hearing was nil ,and they knew your mates would kick them no matter what they did ! oh and I find the use of the term ‘the establishment ‘ hysterical you and the BBC are as much part of it as is all the labour politicians and lurvies that are calling for the breaking of the press they don’t like !
PS look forward to your ‘victims test’ for the reintroduction of the death penalty as the polls show victims want it !
Don’t know which is more hilarious:
* jumped-up student leftie jackass with a publicly-funded pulpit in which to preach his idiotic economics fondly imagining that he isn’t “establishment”
* A presenter on the programme responsible for an innocent man being accused of paedophilia thinking he has a right to the moral high ground when it comes to journalistic ethics (or indeed competence)
“accused of paedophilia”
He was accused him of raping boys from a Welsh children’s home – but it is OK he is a well known Tory supporter so the usual BBC journalistic standards apply.
You’re right, Wild. “Accused of paedophilia” is far too feeble a phrase to describe the monstrous abuse Newsnight was responsible for. It beggars belief that this clown can present himself and his organisation as somehow morally superior to those wicked newspapers.
High time for a “judge-led” witch trial of the BBC and a 2,000 page report on its blatant illegal political bias. Paul Mason would make an appropriate cover star.
Paul Mason – I can imagine your outrage if someone from the “establishment” (which doesn’t include the BBC of course – there’s no way a publicly funded monolithic body which is the biggest media organisation in the UK can be called the estabishment) were to comment on the dress and accents of the victmised folk (obviously we’re not talking Hugh Grant in this particular instance) who appeared before the Leveson enquiry. Just to get this into your head, it’s what people say that matters rather than how they speak and dress – when criticising your own incompetent self-serving Lord Patten I look beyond his nice suit and plummy voice.
‘I still can’t work out why.’
Have to ask… this is the actual person… from an entity whose staff never read this silly little site or if they did are in any way exercised by it?
If so, as you are on the line, as it were, any comment on how you managed to speak for the nation in calling the UK-public approved PM reaction to the Euro deal a while back as ‘UK throws its toys out of the pram’?
It’s not as if the EU does not inspire the BBC and its objective staff, viscerally, when offering insights..
http://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/487244/diff/0/1
One presumes the level of panic, post McAlpine, is now at a more acceptable level to see Newsnight’s top talent returning from around the world where it suddenly got much more important to be?
And I see from Paul Mason’s twitter feed that the working class power struggle against the establishment took him to Twickers on Saturday afternoon.
Union – so working class.
Then maybe he thought it was a meeting of the brothers, sports-style.
Mason at Twickers for the rugger? Very “Man of the People.” Was he there with Bob Crow?
Com to that, when do we get a ‘say’ in the right of Paul Mason to peddle his wares at our (compulsory) expense?
It is not in the interests of any establishment to have a free press.
It is no surprise that the Leftist establishment (who never believed in a free society in the first place) are advocates of State control of the press.
Did the BBC ask you if you want to fund their Statist crap?
Frankly I’m I’ve been deafened by all this “voiceless” people shouting at me through the BBC political megaphone.
The BBC (in an entirely disinterested way you understand) decides to whom they wish to give a voice.
Man who accuses a Tory of being a child rapist
Tick
A young white girl who informs the police that she was repeatedly raped by organised gangs of Muslims.
Ignore.
I’m still waiting for the BBC to ask the Dowlers what they think should happen to the guy who actually *killed* their girl.
I’m thinking their Absolute Moral Authority Card would be withdrawn faster than you can Death by Hanging.
If you remember about the Dowlers after the trial finished stated they were extremely upset about how they were cross-examined, and how the defence tried through innuendo to paint a damming portrait of the Dowlers.
The Dowlers argued that there should be greater protection from such muck-spreading defence ploys.
Naturally, the celebrities, BBC establishment, and Ms. Chakrabhati in particular, did not champion this complaint since one of the princples of leftism is that any accused is always the victim and a conviction is never valid if it does not observe such absurd levels of unconditional empathy/sympathy and protection to the accused.
Since Mr. Mason is a spokesperson for the BBC maybe he can explain this selectivity.
http://order-order.com/2012/12/03/labour-using-millie-dowler-to-harvest-election-data/
‘Watson is using Labour Party resources to direct people to the Hacked Off petition, where you can sign up as many times as you like, with as many fake names and watch the supporter count grow. Guido signed as Divine Brown…. Talking of data, Labour HQ are using Leveson as an opportunity to cynically harvest voter data for the next election. A section of the party website features Maddie McCann and Milly Dowler, asking people to pledge their support. Except the small print reveals the postcode and email data will be used for Labour MPs to contact you.
The BBC of course is going to be fascinated by this conflation… one presumes?
Paul? Or… time for another Newsnight special from Mars on alien art or the anger and protests around Olympus Mons?
The Millie Dowler hacking was the key event of horror and a major motivating event for Leveson.
The inquiry actually established that in the case of Millie Dowler that it was either the Police or the mobile phone company that cleared the messages. No one seemed to know who it was. There was no evidence that the messages were hacked.
This fact was inconvenient for everyone and has been totally ignored.
Whilst it is tragic for the Dowler family to have had their daughter murdered it has been proved that in this instance there is no evidence of unlawful hacking and therefore no grounds for the Dowler family to be upset or even involved.
No one seemed to know who it was … apart from the Guardian: “The messages were deleted by journalists in the first few days after Milly’s disappearance in order to free up space for more messages. As a result, relatives of Milly concluded wrongly that she might be alive.”
As the Independent wrote ‘If, as seems not unlikely, we end up with a less free press, it may at least in part be the result of The Guardian making an incorrect allegation …’
‘If…we end up with a less free press, it may at least in part be the result of The Guardian making an incorrect allegation …’
Would that be the newspaper which is currently lobbying for Ofcom like State regulation of the Press?
Wasn’t Ed Richards the head of Ofcom a contender for Director General of the BBC?
Why in our free society would the Labour Party crony Ed Richards want to run the BBC?
It is almost as surprising as Newsnight appointing a Guardian political correspondent as its political editor, or Newsnight appointing a Marxist as its economics correspondent.
Leftist establishment? What Leftist establishment.
PS Who needs Labour Party broadcasts when you can have the tax funded BBC pushing your agenda every night?
To be honest,, I’m surprised the Dowlers were allowed to keep the phone.
Surely it would have been important for the police to have taken the phone, read all the data off it, and stored it for safe keeping in case it had evidence on it that may have led to a suspect.
If the phone was held, then the question changes slightly to one of how did the Dowlers manage to check the voice mails, how did they get the pass code if they were ringing from a landline?
Surely in the interests of preserving evidence they should not have been able to access it, or warned against doing so, as with my provider when you read a VM it then gets deleted; I can’t remember if its instantly, or after about 12 hours as I’ve disabled it; but its possible that the Dowlers own actions caused the deletions, although I must stress as a biproduct not as a deliberate act.
There are several points raised here that are relevant not just to Millie Dowler;
1. The provider stated that at that time there was limited capacity on their mail servers and they routinely deleted voice mail messages unread after 72 hours.
2. The Police were unsure whether they had deleted the messages.
3. If Millie’s phone was on her how were her parents accessing her voice mail? Were they hacking her voice mail?
4. In the case of most of the victims that were hacked the user had failed to set an access code and left it at default 0000.
5. Based on 4; if someone leaves their premises open (unlocked when there is a lock present) and someone enters those premises and looks around have they committed an offence?
BBC was a bit crestfallen for a while when it realised so much of the press was anti-Leveson and it looked isolated, fearing being seen as a state broadcaster wanting to curb freedom of speech. However after a 24-hour pause it is back on the trail as the LBC with extra anti-Murdoch press stories.
Price less moment on Question Time when Chris Bryant squawked the at Murdoch was the Biggest braodcasrer in Britain, and Simon Jenkins ambiguously whispered – ‘No we are.’ Dimbleby feigned not to hear the treasonable remark.
Charlotte Church then blethered on until an OAP floored her. The audience whooped its anger against the old lady who said celebrities could look after themselves. She was then swiftly silenced by Dimbleby.
I am quite sure that Charlotte Church was ‘trained’ in what to say re Leveson (Hacked Off/Common Purpose perhaps?) – her use of hands and the sureness of her response make me think this was not an unprepared answer.
Church already practiced her delivery for her appearance in front of Levenson a while ago. Surely she’s just doing a repeat performance of something she already knows.
Priceless moment on Question Time when Chris Bryant squawked the at Murdoch was the Biggest broadcaster in Britain, and Simon Jenkins ambiguously whispered – ‘No we are.’
Please let that be on YouTube soon..
‘We… the people” (I used to rely on ballot boxes too, but when there’s a £4Bpa PR machine at play too, things can get iffy)
I am guessing the inverted snob Simon Jenkins was referring to the BBC/Guardian axis when he said “We are.”
Talking of ‘the establishment’…
autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/arse-kissing-establishment-bbc-scum/
http://www.autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/arse-kissing-establishment-bbc-scum/
Hodges’ hypocrisy is there for all to see, unless you depend on the BBC for your news and political analysis. Humphrys’ refusal to challenge her on her £1,800,000 shareholding, earning a dividend of £56,000 (according to the link – I assume this information is sound), in a company that pays next to no tax , is BBC/Labour incestual relations at its worst.
Had she been a Tory politician, this would have been a story with ‘legs’, repeated relentlessly on Today, PM and hourly news bulletins.
The BBC stinks.
I’d be careful if I were you. The Islington child molesters’ excuser in chief was threatening to sue anyone who mentions any dodgy dealings, or so she said yesterday on the Daily Politics.
No matter. Once Levenson’s enacted you won’t get to hear such stories anyway.
Just corrected Chris Mason on Twitter who was going on about Tax Avoidance (legal) when he meant tax evasion (illegal). This is a political correspondant!!!
‘Just corrected Chris Mason on Twitter who was going on about Tax Avoidance (legal) when he meant tax evasion (illegal). This is a political correspondent!!!’
Actually… I thought he was Economics*… which really doesn’t help him much, I know.
*Economics editor, Newsnight
Come here for my reports ranging from the shanty towns of Kenya to the boardrooms of the City as I cover an agenda of “people, planet and profit”.
So, a man with an agenda, many frequent flyer miles, an odd notion on which people he serves, how planets get saved and a rather skewed view on profit… is an Economics Editor whose grasp of finance is about as good as any ex-music teacher.
Unique does cover it.
An ‘agenda’.
Shameless, careless, arrogant or stupid?
Whichever way you look at it, it’s defintely not impartial.
I’d also advise a page capture, as such things usually mean a blocking, or a banning after a deleting… per the Stuart Hughes doctrine.
No surprise there. This is the same Chris Mason who tweeted the (to the BBC) delicious irony that on Margaret Thatcher’s birthday the world’s attention was focused on the plight of miners (in Chile). The bias does inform their reporting. The collection of tweets is just one piece in the puzzle of proof.
The likes of Mason are , what Jimmy Savile used to call “champeens”.
Rebels all-involved in some self-righteous and worthy cause…and if they can throw sponges at their betters because there`s a “cheridee” that gets itself on the BBC..then all to the good.
Give `em all a Jim`ll Fix `em Medal…by rights, he HAS done after all, but they just don`t know it yet.
Jim`ll Fix it Medals for all-then send them out to get proper jobs, and stop sucking off the poor of this nation.
“What a catalyst you turned out to be”
“Load up the guns, then you run off home for your tea”
The standard BBC/Guardian epitaph for all those wicca coffins-and written with childrens tears of suitably biodegradable cardboard…w***ers one an` all!
http://order-order.com/2012/12/03/all-eyes-on-hodge-the-dodge/
‘Cute of the Eye to fight her battles for her’
Maybe the HIGNFY Producer had a quiet word?
Meanwhile, in other news…
http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/andrew-neil-stays-quiet-over-spectator-editors-threat-8375858.html
‘“That was the editor’s decision, not mine,” replied Neil.
Heard that a lot, of late.
Oddly, it was not a tack that caught much slack during NotW days.
One is sure the BBC and her sons of the sod will be all over such disconnects, once they get back from lunch over a nifty claret.
Can it be said often enough?
I know others have said it-but how the hell are the BBC( tax avoiding/dodging millionaires with plenty offshore advice and small companies called Bruce, Wark etc)…able to interview MPs like Hodge( Trust creating expenses-fiddling tax dodging/avoiding creative entities) about the likes of Starbucks not paying their full taxes like the little people?
Nice of them all-Guardian, Carr, Naughtie and Paxman to care about us…because we sure as hell are not the big fish, too important and talented to have to pay taxes as we do…whereas THEY are!
Still-listening to kearney etc…you`d never guess it would you?
Oh hell…here comes Polly of the Guardian…as if her bosses and herself know nothing of tax fiddles and evasions…but no Beeboid would dare be in such bad taste as to mention it…not with Winterval coming up, and all those mulled wines amid bad body languages.
Maybe we need thirty words for the shades, types and degree of hypocrite-for Toynbee is different from Monbiot…etc, etc.
Savile at least wasn`t that!
And they should be banned from using words like “moral” and “immoral”…stick to “appropriate” ,” passionate” and suchlike: you scumbags…leave the religious language to those who know what it means!
…all we need now is that odious Harman thing to start hectoring about ‘the court of public opinion’.
UGH!
Pretendey proles at the BBC don’t understand that for people in the real world even a ‘tiny, tiny, tiny’ holding in a billion pound company is quite a lot.
On Labour HODGE:-
“Multi-millionaire Labour MP’s family business ‘paid just 0.25% tax on its profits'”
By LEON WATSON.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2230915/Margaret-Hodge-Multi-millionaire-Labour-MPs-family-business-paid-just-0-25-tax-profits.html
“The BBC’s selective indignation on tax avoidance”
(March, 2012).
By Harry Phibbs.
http://phibbsblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/03/the-bbcs-selective-indignation-on-tax-avoidance.html
We are heading for a disaster of biblical proportions.
What will people like Paul Mason do when that happens.
Looks like all those BBC supporters who had resigned themselves to the cancellation of Newsnight were wrong. It’s obviously not going anywhere, nor will there be any other significant (to the real problem) changes at the BBC now that they sent the scapegoat off to Azazel bearing the burden of the Corporation’s sins. A few weeks late for the Yom Kippur kapparot ceremony, but it seems to have worked.
Hundreds of thousands of pounds will be spent on inquiries, lessons will be learned, management structure will change slightly, but nothing fundamental will be corrected. Maybe a few mandarin titles will be changed, job descriptions rewritten, but probably little else.
Nothing which caused the real problems at Newsnight or anywhere else at the BBC will change. The people responsible for the real problems will simply get promoted or moved to other departments, and the institutional bias will continue as before.
But hey they’re getting to the heart of the issue.
Should the roles of Director-General and Editor-in-Chief be separated?
(Psst couldn’t give a toss)
No, no, they need to restore the position of Deputy Director. It seems that, contrary to Mark Thompson’s brilliant opinion, Mark Byford had not in fact solved all their management problems. So of course the management answer will be to add another layer of accountability.
Never mind that the person they appoint will have been, like Entwistle, part of the problem the whole time.
Of course nothing will change – the BBC believe they are right and everybody else is wrong.
No, the BBC believe that they are centre and everybody else is right(-wing).
Paul Mason is a complete and utter prat. The only ‘voices’ he and the BBC want to hear are those from the left. I am shocked that a crappy college music teacher has worked his way up to senior economics editor on Newsnight. Mind you, this meteoric rise from obscurity to socialist stardom might explain his sloppy and infantile economic views.
Can I just, in a Prole/Scott/Dez-like way, correct your spelling?
The eigth word of your first sentence should start ‘tw’ not ‘pr’.
Hope you don’t mind but I do hate to see inaccuracies in peoples posts. 😉
Excellent advice, sir!
Its just you