22 Responses to ON PLEBS AND NEWSNIGHT

  1. Doyle says:
    December 18, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    The countries change but the meme stays the same – the far right is marching in Europe (wooooo). I’m sure Mason did a piece almost exactly the same from Greece (and maybe even Finland – Mason seems to be the Van Helsing of lefties rooting out the fascists)- visits a gym, has dinner with the nasty wacists (the food changes obviously, tonight it was paella) and he then gets them to talk themselves up and threaten immigrants or mosques so he can go back to London with a story. Maitliss always seems to be the anchor when these stories are on and obviously she doesn’t question the dubious nature of the report and just goes along with it. It goes without saying that the socialists they put on always agree wholeheartedly with the report. I don’t think that professor had read the script though, because he just dismissed most of the rubbish he’s just seen – like most of the viewing public.

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    • George R says:
      December 19, 2012 at 12:49 am

      Of course, Paul MASON,’Newsnight’ Father of the Chapel’s political mindset is to only see a political threat from some ‘extreme right’ not from some ‘extreme left’.

      And, for instance, in his references to current Spain, he sees Muslims as they want to be seen, as ‘victims’. Not that non-Muslims are victims of Islamic jihadists in Spain? Remember Madrid, and the Islamic jihad massacre of 2004, Comrade Mason?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madrid_train_bombings

      And what of the role of the Moroccan Muslims in Franco’s army in the 1930s Spanish Civil War?:-

      “Spain and Franco’s Moroccan Soldiers”

      http://islamineurope.blogspot.co.uk/2008/10/spain-francos-moroccan-soldiers.html

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    • AsISeeIt says:
      December 19, 2012 at 8:53 am

      Whereas Mason seeks out the far left in a nurturing fatherly way, when it comes to the right he is indeed the BBC’s Witchfinder General.

      Incidentally Maitless is looking increasingly vampire-like. Last night dressed in black she looked very grey around the eyes. Perhaps she shouldn’t be up this late?

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  2. Deborah says:
    December 19, 2012 at 9:57 am

    The story throughout yesterday and this morning on the BBC has been that the 2 policemen at the gates of Downing Street must have been telling the truth because their stories agreed. But the log was incorrect about the number of people at the gates when the row happened and they must have known their colleague was not there. Added to which why, when at the time Mitchell said he usually used the main gates, did they refuse to open them this time, My only surprise is that Michael Crick on Channel 4 broke this story (I never liked him on Newsnight) and my lack of surprise that the BBC are trying to make it a ‘non’ story when its implications are huge.

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    • Deborah says:
      December 19, 2012 at 9:58 am

      Hurray this post has gone up – but my arguments were more cogent when I wrote more or less the same twice last night!

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  3. Roland Deschain says:
    December 19, 2012 at 10:42 am

    I’m not sure what I’m supposed to have seen, as it shows as a small blank box on my screen (using Firefox), but I can guess what it’s about.

    I can recall posting here at the time that the reports of tourists who just happened to be at the gates and knew who Andrew Mitchell was simply didn’t add up, and so it seems. Last night’s News at 10 was at pains to say that the report of the police at the gates still stands, but as Deborah says they must have known that the report of the tourists at the gates was incorrect yet said nothing. Which casts doubt on the whole thing. I haven’t seen the clip but gather it shows Mitchell didn’t have time for the extended rant we were led to believe.

    P.S. Deborah – always take a copy of a long post before posting, in case it vanishes!

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    • Wild says:
      December 19, 2012 at 5:30 pm

      Judge Judy says that when things do not sound right they are usually false. The whole story sounded peculiar – almost as if it had been cooked up by the Police Trade Union.

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  4. Matt says:
    December 19, 2012 at 11:21 am

    The BBC is playing the see no evil card but they are not alone in this the Telegraph and Sun +others were set up for a fall and are digging desperately to get out of it like the BBC by not admitting to hearing any of the serious questions that the police and media face over log the false Mail and the CCTV footage !
    Mind many are trying the ‘well he swore any way so should have been sacked’ LOL pathetic the police have much worse said at them every day and now we have to start sacking those involved ?? what about the repeated ‘hunt ‘ gaffs on the BBC ? sack um sack um all !

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  5. Guest Who says:
    December 19, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Mr. Mason’s empathies are so overt as to make him no more than a figure of derision in any profession guided by professional integrity.
    As to Newsnight, with all going on, these appear their main focus…
    BBC Newsnight @BBCNewsnight
    Jaron Lanier on the Instagram row: The internet has to be about more than advertising or it’s a path to nowhere #newsnight
    Or..
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20765046

    And the few left who haunt their twitter or FB ghettoes to prop or mock are not being kind.

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  6. Guest Who says:
    December 19, 2012 at 12:43 pm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9755385/George-Entwistle-was-warned-of-Saviles-darker-side-in-2010.html
    ‘George Entwistle, who resigned as director general last month and who commissioned tribute programmes to Savile, was sent an email two years ago warning him of Savile’s “darker side” but did not read it.
    Interesting precedent to any PaxNaughtieHumpf interview in future..
    ‘… neeeeeareeee you expecting us to believe that you were unaware of this because you, as boss, chose to not know about it as far as any substantiated proof goes?
    ‘Yes. If it is good enough for the BBC, why not?

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  7. Invicta 1066 says:
    December 19, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Listened to Jeremy Vine today, usually avoid it these days.
    With the emphasis on swearing at policemen in the programme and how this was unacceptable, I e-mailed the programme asking how much swearing there was at the BBC (no, not by those on this forum when watching the Biased News !) but within the BBC by producers at underlings and on panel, quiz, celebrity and so-called comedy programmes, and how many swearer’s lost there jobs or careers or were banned from appearing again as a result?

    Received an acknowledgement but did not feature on the JV show!

    I would like to see swearing banned on the BBC, there is no need for it and I find it offensive.

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    • john2g says:
      December 19, 2012 at 4:09 pm

      “I would like to see swearing banned on the BBC, there is no need for it and I find it offensive.”

      feckin’ A

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    • johnnythefish says:
      December 20, 2012 at 2:37 pm

      Some weeks ago I heard Vine pull up a caller for using the word ‘bloody’, and yet during the daytime the BBC’s own ‘edgy’ comedians are increasingly using words like ‘sh**’ and ‘p**s’ which are clearly a breach of the watershed. But hey, this is the BBC innit? You know, The Untouchables.

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  8. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    December 19, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    And now Nick Robinson is trying to pretend that the bBBC played no part in hounding Mitchell, but that it was ‘the media’.
    The reason I believe it matters is that this row is now about the power of politicians, the police and the press – the issues which, you may recall, triggered the Leveson inquiry.
    Just the press, of course; not the bBBC.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20776471

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 19, 2012 at 5:58 pm

      It’s only “now” about the power of these people? Isn’t that what Leveson was about in the first place – allegedly? I like how the Beeboids claim that shows like Today are influential in setting the news agenda, except in situations like this. Suddenly it’s other media leading the way.

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  9. George R says:
    December 19, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    The Mitchell case is impossible to explain without reference to the
    trade unionisation and the politicisation of the British police force.

    “Say hello to the Police Federation. Wave goodbye to automatic respect”
    By Graeme Archer.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/graemearcher/100194982/say-hello-to-the-police-federation-wave-goodbye-to-automatic-respect/

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  10. George R says:
    December 19, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    The BBC lies and insults about Lord McAlpine are impossible to explain without reference to the fact that he is a leading Tory.

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    • Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
      December 19, 2012 at 5:45 pm

      … with the obligatory addition of the Thatcher era.

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    • George R says:
      December 19, 2012 at 6:13 pm

      Could one imagine the political ‘leftists’ at the NUJ Chapel of BBC ‘Newsnight’ applying the same standards which they used against McAlpine as they would to a leading Labour Party person?

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  11. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    December 19, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Now that the reputation of the police is the issue, there are 30 police working on the investigation.
    How many of them are loyal members of their union, which coordinated the attack on Mitchell?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-20780584

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  12. Span Ows says:
    December 19, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Anyone remember the police union guy, he as on the BBC for ages in their 8 minute section (more than I have seen for almost any other single news item, ever) slagging the Tories in general and especially Cameron, cuts, and anything else.

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  13. George R says:
    December 20, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    Ex-Tory Minister, Andrew Mitchell has been subjected to BBC-NUJ-Labour presumptuous propaganda since September. (Remember Labour E. Miliband’s comment that ‘Mitchell was toast’?)

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