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  1. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    December 21, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    YouGov’s November survey of UK ‘opinion formers’ (influential Britons drawn from politics, business, media, academia, NGOs and the public sector) shows that the series of crises at the BBC in recent months has left a significant dent on its reputation. Prior to the events, a large majority (79%) of respondents would have rated the BBC’s reputation highly, with only 5% saying it had a low reputation.

    However, recent events have had a large impact on the Corporation’s standing, and opinion formers are divided on the issue. Only 31% would now rate its reputation high, with over a quarter (26%) saying it is now low.
    The only surprise is how many gullible people are supposedly ‘influential Britons’.

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  2. Guest Who says:
    December 21, 2012 at 5:07 pm

    Just bailed from a twittersurf as it has appeared the NRA rather foolishly did not learn from our Flokkers here and kept its head down until it was safe again.
    I bailed because there was simply no value to any ‘analysis’ from any quarter, so I can only imagine what the BBC, with its pre-vetted set, is/will be like.
    Whaitiffery was a pervasive game that has become an industry.

    So having failed to mock the media and those it is allied with into any shame on this, I think the time is here to simply join them.

    So, here’s a question: what if, as the crazed shooter had approached that school, some ‘body’, forewarned by some means, had swooped down and secured him, painlessly, and then whisked him away to a place of incarceration; how long would it have been before many currently screaming their heads off about gun ownership would have been clamouring for his release and the vilification of those who locked him up, even if he was a mobile one man arsenal en route to mayhem?

    I’m not saying that those defending heavy weaponry have much of a case (other than the one any such thing should be in, at a club, and nowhere else), but for sure I am saying those currently ranged against them don’t seem too appealing in logic or argument or even sincere intent either.

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  3. Guest Who says:
    December 21, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    Bailed earlier from a twittersurf as it has appeared the NRA rather foolishly did not learn from our Flokkers here and kept its head down until it was safe again.
    I bailed because there was simply no value to any ‘analysis’ from any quarter, so I can only imagine what the BBC, with its pre-vetted set, is/will be like.
    Whaitiffery was a pervasive game that has become an industry.
    So having failed to mock the media and those it is allied with into any shame on this, I think the time is here to simply join them.
    So, here’s a question: what if, as the crazed shooter had approached that school, some ‘body’, forewarned by some means, had swooped down and secured him, painlessly, and then whisked him away to a place of incarceration; how long would it have been before many currently screaming their heads off about gun ownership would have been clamouring for his release and the vilification of those who locked him up, even if he was a mobile one man arsenal en route to mayhem?
    I’m not saying that those defending heavy weaponry have much of a case (other than the one any such thing should be in, at a club, and nowhere else), but for sure I am saying those currently ranged against them don’t seem too appealing in logic or argument or even sincere intent either.

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  4. chrisH says:
    December 21, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    Oh dear, those nasty NRA types eh?
    The BBC and Channel 4 are pretty clear who killed those kids and teachers in Connecticut aren`t they?
    Then I heard the NRA spokesman tell us that if the teachers etc had guns the likes of the nutjob murderer would maybe not kill unarmed civilians and their kids…seemed clever and correct to me!
    Ah but, yeah but…the man made a powerful point about how come Obama gets the guard that the children in schools do no…what with all those armed guards around him.
    Ah but yeah but…best not show that eh?
    Bloody rednecks…bound to be Republicans of course.
    Is there anything simpler or more predictable that a liberal world?…

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:
      December 21, 2012 at 7:42 pm

      I don’t really think the call for the arming of all teachers was the best response to this. What I’d really like to see is a discussion of how we handle the dangerously mentally ill instead. One would have thought the astute unbiased journalists at the BBC would be able to see their way clear to investigating the situation of the dangerously mentally ill in the US. In the interests of, you know, opening a dialogue on the subject.

      The Beeboids had no problem blaming Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement when the mentally ill Jared Loughner tried to assassinate a Democrat and killed several innocent people, including a little girl, and then went on to do the usual whining about gun control laws once their biased opinion was proved wrong. There was moaning about gun laws when another dangerously mentally ill young man – known to be dangerous by his shrink, no less – killed a bunch of people in a movie theater. But there was not a peep uttered about how we don’t deal with the dangerously mentally ill effectively enough to prevent them from committing mass murder. Instead, the call is for innocent people to have their own rights curtailed.

      Forget personal opinions about who should be allowed to own what kind of guns. Where are the BBC special reports on the serious problem of how the US handles dangerously mentally ill people? This is a real human rights tragedy that is being ignored in favor of a political agenda.

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  5. David Preiser (USA) says:
    December 21, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Classic BBC bias by omission in this news brief about the President nominating Sen. John Kerry for Secretary of State.

    Deliberately censored by the BBC: the man whom the BBC describes as a “decorated Vietnam veteran” was also a major anti-war activist when he came back from Vietnam, and worked with Communist sympathizer Jane Fonda, among other radicals. This isn’t an opinion the BBC needs to wait for attribution before quoting: it’s historical fact, common knowledge after it was all brought out in the 2004 election, and as equally valid background information as the fact that Kerry was decorated for his service. I don’t expect the BBC to ever mention that his commanding officer criticized the awards back in 2004, either.

    Don’t trust the BBC on US issues.

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  6. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    December 21, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    The bBBC NorthWest ‘news’ has tonight hit the jackpot: a story about a Blackburn mosque giving to a Christian food-bank, with a Muslim child commenting about how difficult it is this year for some people to feed themselves.
    Ticks all the leftie boxes.

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    • George R says:
      December 21, 2012 at 11:14 pm

      What I have seen of INBBC North West makes me think that it is a very Islam-compliant INBBC regional broadcaster.

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  7. PhilO'TheWisp says:
    February 12, 2013 at 10:00 am

    STAFFORD REPORT
    Francis up before select committee now. Could be more said today.

    Someone mentioned writing Stafford report in 2010 to Burnham on Today prog this morning. At around 8.45. It was quickly glossed over as you would expect from the BBC.

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