You may think that reports of vigilante gangs roaming the streets of London forcing people to comply with a particular religion’s tenets would be big news.
Not for the BBC.
Muslim gangs attempting to turn their area of London into Muslim only enclaves where British law is held in contempt and attacks on non-Muslims making them comply with Sharia law as they do so might catch a news editor’s eye.
It did for the Daily Mail, the Sunday Times, the Times of Israel, and even on the Sub Continent where the Indian Express covered the story…their by line is though…‘Journalism of Courage’…..something notably lacking in the BBC.
If you respond…‘Well it’s only a few fanatics’….my response would be so was the IRA, so were the Nazis.
Joseph Ernst Renan (1823-1892):
Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels in the Orient that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain the others in the practice of religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service one can render him.
A small group prepared to use violence to intimidate and control a population can easily become dominant given the right conditions.
One of those conditions is that no one speaks out, no one dares to say anything….individuals in case they then become the targets, the establishment for fear of stoking more violence.
Look at Rochdale where everyone knew but kept quiet due to the race or religion of the men involved….and allowed the crimes to go on for years. Now look at the response to the French intervention in Mali…..the usual suspects are filling the newspapers and airwaves with dire warnings…we must not make the Muslim extremists angry…or they will attack us.
What did Churchill say? Appeasers are those who feed the crocodile in the hope that it eats them last.
Algeria has the only truly effective response.
This has in fact been going on for a long time…and it is not just the ‘alienated, disadvantaged, the disenfranchised’ Muslim of BBC folk lore who turn to the fundamental tenets of Islam….
I have met Muslim lawyers and academics who have turned to Taliban-style beliefs. These men propagate Wahhabism – the joyless and backward Saudi belief system followed by
Al Qaeda and espoused by hate preachers such as omar Bakri and his successor
Anjem Choudary.
The rapid spread of rigid, diehard Islam is deeply worrying. Yet
those in power, focused on terrorist cells, seem oblivious to this other peril.
For many of us Muslims, this creeping Talibanisation of childhood is
unendurable.
I could never have imagined, nine years on, that the Taliban
would be claiming to have ‘won the war’ in Afghanistan. Or, much worse, that our
politicians and Muslim ‘leaders’ here would allow their twisted ideology to
spread across Britain. Make no mistake, Taliban devotees are in our schools,
playgrounds, homes, mosques, political parties, public service, private firms
and universities. And if we are to have any hope of combating them, we need to
stop this attitude of appeasement and understand why so many Muslims are
attracted to the most punishing forms of belief, suppressing women and children.
Why are we fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and indulging Taliban values here?
Even if it offends liberal principles, the powerful must find a way of stopping Islamicists from promulgating their distorted creed. If they don’t, the future is bleak for Muslims and the country.
The BBC have put a lot of effort into hounding the EDL for their views on Islam.
But silence from the BBC about what is potentially an explosive and divisive action by a group of Muslim Nazis.
The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters.
BORIS Johnson On Islam:
To any non-Muslim reader of the Koran, Islamophobia – fear of Islam – seems a natural reaction, and, indeed, exactly what that text is intended to provoke. Judged purely on its scripture – to say nothing of what is preached in the mosques – it is the most viciously sectarian of all religions in its heartlessness towards unbelievers. As the killer of Theo Van Gogh told his victim’s mother this week in a Dutch courtroom, he could not care for her, could not sympathise, because she was not a Muslim.
The trouble with this disgusting arrogance and condescension is that it is widely supported in Koranic texts, and we look in vain for the enlightened Islamic teachers and preachers who will begin the process of reform. What is going on in these mosques and madrasas? When is someone going to get 18th century on Islam’s mediaeval ass?
Thanks -I have passed this info on. Let’s hope they read it!
But hardly surprising considering the BBC was not so silent in promoting a Rapper whose lyrics supported terrorism on Radio 4’s “Front Row” Aug 2006.( see my blog mentioned on your post “One man’s Poison” as well)
hardly surprising, 😀 … bbc, all around them in northern/midland towns, in london, abroad, algeria, mali, sudan, somalia the problems burgeoning in egypt, and turkey is next, totally oblivious and wilfully deceitful, they must have to put ear plugs in now, before … burying their ostrich heads in the sand.
it IS clear and present danger people … about time to loudly call it what it is, a political ideology just like nazism/communism, and just like them backed by threat/violence … this religion part? 😀
thats just the “get out of jail free” card,
Through harsh indoctrination its young adherrents minds are systematically poisoned … and the the bbc? well they are just the smug santimonious political correct self-appointed liberal, moronic moral guardians of our diverse and multicultural society’ – it is THEY! who are the pompous twerps who never dare to say anything negative about Islam, even when all around them the evidence , the facts are there
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You know the strange paradox, our western ideals/laws appeal most to those GENUINELY oppressed, the GENUINE victims.
It holds little appeal for muslim men who risk losing power over their wives and daughters. or for wives who risk losing power over their daughters, no appeal at all, for a supremacist religious majority who risk losing power over other cultural/religious minorities. for the strong “cult/tribe” and strong families who risk losing power over weaker tribes/families.
That is why this pseudo “the victims” – “the oppressed” has worked so well for islam, they have learn t from their mistake over Israel, i.e. small nation bullied/oppressed by genocidal surrounding nations
So … we have have the even smaller islamic invention the erm … “Palestinians” to reclaim? this narrative … those genocidal bullies/oppressors, well they re still there, folks …. but … hey … everybody look, the “poor” palestinians,
Plenty of airtime, media constructed “oppression” just look, a new bloody al bbc story every week,
These small but growing enclaves here, the same method,
forever the simpering “victim”, and it is proven successful
… but just like theo van gogh, don t, EVER! turn your back,
for goodness sake, they ve built bloody bomb shelters, at the bbc to protect them from suicide bombers, and it ain t from hysterical hindu s either .. and still wilfully ignorant, still wilfully blind
anyway rant over
aaahhh! thats better 😀
Not sure why ‘Alan’ persists in promoting a tiny racist organisation on a site about the BBC. Most its ‘leaders’ are inside or on race charges.
Pah!
My own modest attempt at satire below has been roundly trounced by this offering from Colditz!
Hats off to you, sir.
“tiny racist organisation”:”Most its ‘leaders’ are inside or on race charges.”really? Robinson is an American prison for trying to enter illegally.His last conviction in this country (according to C4 documentary I watched) was for physically ejecting NF members from EDL meeting and the other fellow has be jailed for criticising islam on twitter (free speech anyone)
And if they are so tiny and unrepresentative why does the liberal Inquisition,who’s primary pulpit is the BBC, expend so much effort suppressing them?
Stewart, the silence in the media about what is happening to Tommy Robinson, members of the EDL in general and members of the British Freedom Party is depressing. I can only think that these brave journalists think they are somehow protected and will never be intimidated by muslims.
In addition, I note that the website Gates of Vienna has been closed down today for what appears to be that someone has taken exception to what has been posted there. I get more information on what muslims are doing to us in the West from such websites than I have ever learned from the bbc.
John I know very little about EDL other than what I seen on TV documentaries(Interestingly on the C4 one they came out of it looking better than expected by me or I suspect the makers,so fair play to them for showing it They certainly looked more ‘inclusive’ than their UAF opponents)
As for what has happened to Robinson and the other fellow I know only what little I have read in news but will admit it does all seem a bit contrived.I wonder if a muslim cleric or member of the SWP had been arrested trying to sneak into the US what the response of our bourgeois intelligencer would have been?
Where might I find a detailed resume of current events?
Stewart, visit to their respective websites is a good starting point. BF also have a Youtube site.
Thanks for outing yourselves! So Biased BBC is a forum for EDL supporters. A farcical organisation if ever there was one.
Didn’t Robinson do time for duffing up his wife as well? Clearly an organisation to be proud to support.
EDL – a street gang for adults.
‘So Biased BBC is a forum for EDL supporters.’
Where on earth do these people come from?
Could they be product of some Huxleyesque conditioning programme?
“Didn’t Robinson do time for duffing up his wife as well?”
Did he ? Ive no idea.You seem to know a great deal more about them than I do.How is that?
Colditz, you are DEZ and i claim my fiver!
Now fuck off
Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:
‘you are DEZ and i claim my fiver!’
Presumably this is an exception to certain rules?
Sometimes it’s hard for a girl to know what to do.
If you mean the rule about not feeding trolls, then you are correct. I have to plead guilty as charged m’lud! Sorry!
🙂
john in cheshire, in case you haven’t yet found out, Gates of Vienna has relocated away from Blogger:
http://gatesofvienna.net/
thanks
are you wilfully ignorant?, it is deliberate
… right, you obviously know about these charges, the way they ve been so “conveniently” arrested etc, etc … to suit an obvious agenda.
anyway what race are you refering to?
sounds to me, as if you re every bit as deliberately insidious as the al bbc
Sadly there are many people such as Colditz who believe everything that they are told in the media and are unable to think for themselves.
The self righteous twat unknowingly asks a question and then in his very next sentence answers it himself as though it’s fact! ..lol
Couldn’t be more of an absolutely typically self righteous lefty loon if he tried!
Imprisonments are an indication of the governments desperation. It is a sign of weakness not strength. Our prisons must be starting to swell with those who have offended our corrupt government. Long live the rebellion.
Oh goodie in “Colditz” (These goons just can’t help themselves in eluding to the Nazis via their monikers)….One would presume that the “progressives” of the SWP/UAF are here…..
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261220/Socialist-Workers-Party-held-sharia-style-court-exonerate-party-member-accused-raping-female-comrade.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
But the progressives of the left plan to rise from the ashes of the SWP. Yes a new movement of the left, galvanising millions of people, says Dave Spart, alias Owen Jones of the Independent. Is this the call for left unity to be picked up by the Beeb, and comrade Milliband? Bro. Owen Jones and Sister Kate Hudson, of the Guardian and former Parliamentary candidate for Respect, are recruiting in the hope of creating an all Euro style revolutionary socialist movement, brimming with new ideas like a General Strike.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/british-politics-urgently-needs-a-new-force–a-movement-on-the-left-to-counter-capitalisms-crisis-8459099.html
Are they mostly in jail for thought crimes? Or do EDL members commit actual crimes in the name of their organization and beliefs?
He does not deserve your credulity, Alan.
Agreed. Ignore the dezscottnicked or whichever moniker he/she/neither is having their identity crisis through tonight.
smearing al edl supporters as racist colditz makes you no better than the appeasers of radical racist fascist islam.maybe you work for the bbc.
(Glug, glug)…. I name Colditz as my successor….(Glug, glug)…Drive the Jews, er Zionists into the sea…..(Glug, glug)……Lend me your daughter, Colditz….(Glug, glug)….Cheers…(Glug, glug)…..Not queer are you?
They are political prisoners, the secrecy of their predicament confirms it. Be afraid this is serious s**t.
Ah but IT IS the EDL’s fault; they MAKE the Muslims behave like this out of fear!
Have you not learned yet?
‘A small group prepared to .. control a population can easily become dominant given the right conditions.’
Unique funding, zero accountability and… bingo!
Groups such as the EDL are merely the symptom, not the cause.
If Luton was not the place that it has now become, then the EDL would not exist.
As things stand , they are needed and will become increasingly so.
Witness the elite ignormuses like Mary Beard; as she is shown for the liberal flat packer (to quote Peter Hitchens) that she is.
In contrast, witness the real woman who has to live with the consequences of her hometown becoming like Katowice or Tallinn.
The two worlds collided on Question Time last Thursday-and as long as that lady gets patronised and told fat whoopers by “Professor Nods”like Batty Beardy…the EDL will be valued props to stop the country ending up as Beards bathwater with a Sharia inspection of all genitals prior to getting into her fetid cesspool.
At least there are not many Islamists in Katowice or Tallinn as there are in Luton, Tower Hamlets or Tipton !
It is NUJ and BBC-NUJ branches’ political policy to campaign against organisations such as the English Defence League, which opposes Islamic ‘no-go’ areas in Britain.
Of course, this BBC-NUJ policy is reflected in its broadcasting propaganda, compulsorily financed by licence payers.
“UK: ‘Muslim Patrol’ thugs harass Londoners for not observing Sharia in ‘Muslim areas'”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/uk-muslim-patrol-thugs-harass-londoners-for-not-observing-sharia-in-muslim-areas.html
Just out of interest, the song used in that video is called Sanakhoodu and is much loved by jihadis. The first verse goes like this
We’ll take our fights with them
We’ll go as groups to stop them
We’ll return our slain rights (territories)
With all force we’ll push them out
The BBC has found a far worse villain than Islamic gangs and Hate preachers. That is Lance Armstrong, after all he did take drugs some ten years ago. He is headline news for the past two weeks He is far worse than Jimmy SaVILE. according to the BBC, who is hardly ever mentioned.
They’re only upset because he gets better drugs than them.
THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT HAPPY!
They’re not happy in Gaza.
They’re not happy in Egypt.
They’re not happy in Libya.
They’re not happy in Morocco.
They’re not happy in Iran.
They’re not happy in Iraq.
They’re not happy in Yemen.
They’re not happy in Afghanistan.
They’re not happy in Pakistan.
They’re not happy in Syria.
They’re not happy in Lebanon.
SO, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?
They’re happy in Australia.
They’re happy in Canada.
They’re happy in England.
They’re happy in France.
They’re happy in Italy.
They’re happy in Germany.
They’re happy in Sweden.
They’re happy in the USA.
They’re happy in Norway.
They’re happy in Holland.
They’re happy in Denmark.
Basically, they’re happy in every country that is not Muslim…and unhappy in every country that is!
Talking of Muslim discontent:
‘Politics aside, when Muslims compare their image of themselves, as God’s chosen people with the one true faith, with their abject position in the modern world they are forced to confront an ugly truth.’
Ghaffar Hussain, The Commentator.
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1665/the_psychology_of_the_muslim_rioter
The BBC blames Israel for the unhappiness in half those countries. Most of the other half will be blamed on George Bush and previous US foreign policy. After all, it was the evil US propping up all those “secular” dictators for all those years that’s causing the unhappiness now. Nothing to do with fundamentalist Islam or third-world values at all.
Muslims are happy in every country that isn’t Muslim, because they can get all the benefits the non-Muslims provide, and at the same time get on with their real job, which is to Islamise the West.
Funny how when similar types of groups operate in Israel the BBC has no problem reporting it
‘Price-tag’ tactics of West Bank Jewish settlers
or
Israel in ‘Sabbath car park’ row
Now what could be the difference ❓
BBC-NUJ is politically aligned with UAF which aims to deny EDL free sppech.
Worse than that,like the medieval fundamentalists they champion, they allow no deviation from their orthodoxy by any one.
And those that excuse their violent suppression of the EDL on grounds of special circumstance are forging their own chains .
Think I exaggerate?Ask those UKIP foster parents
London. ‘Muslim Patrol’ impose Sharia law.
Update: 1 min video clip.
“Sharia in action in the UK: Muslims target gay man for being in “Muslim area”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/01/sharia-in-action-in-the-uk-muslims-target-gay-man-for-being-in-muslim-area.html
I’m still suspicious of this. The whole story is based on two videos put up last month by a new supposed Islamist group. We don’t see their faces, we don’t know who they really are. I call BS until I see the real source.
Apparently the police are investigating.
We shall see.
‘The Sun’ (2011):-
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/3718799/London-suburb-put-under-Sharia-law.html
“Further Muslim patrol video shows man receiving homophobic abuse in East London”
By Robin de Peyer.
http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/news/crime/further_muslim_patrol_video_shows_man_receiving_homophobic_abuse_in_east_london_1_1802228
Five years ago:-
“Islamic extremism creating ‘no-go’ areas for non-Muslims in Britain, says Bishop of Rochester” (2008).
By STEVE DOUGHTY.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-506419/Islamic-extremism-creating-areas-non-Muslims-Britain-says-Bishop-Rochester.html
I saw these chancers out at Walthamstow Central bus garage a couple of summers ago trying to pull off their sharia law publicity stunt-people just came and went and ignored them. Bunch of saddos rather than some sort of vanguard of an Islamic movement. If they are going for some sort of alcohol free zone it’s a hilarious irony that they are trying to start it in east London. It used to be the cockneys who liked a drink (they’ve mostly moved out to Romford etc.) but now you can’t move in east London for eastern European labourers and their cans of Tyskie, which seem to accompany them everywhere and Polski Skleps selling cheap Vodka. It’s a shame Johnny Speight and John Sullivan are no longer with us (do the BBC still have any working class writers writing about their own areas, or are only well connected posh types allowed to write comedy these days?) as there is a great comedy sketch in here somewhere.
Visions of Del Boy setting up a still in his garage in Peckham and converting all that Romanian Riesling into cheap brandy and vodka !
“The Spirit of Peckham” has a bit of a ring to it, but Del’s attempts to sell the stuff won’t work. Then the ghost of Uncle Albert tells Del where he’s going wrong, since vodka is made from grain, and it could provide an excuse for a “During the war …. ” story of how he met some Polish servicemen who liked a drop of vodka ….
In addition, Poles do eat a lot of pork. If a team of Polish builders are involved in the construction of a mosque for the local RoP community, do they cock a snook by burying remnants of pork sandwiches in the foundations ?
“Banged up for
banging on?
“The arrest of an EDL leader for ranting against Islam on Facebook should worry anyone interested in freedom.”
By Patrick Hayes.
http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13271/
And so the muslim patrols continue – now its the gays. The police are taking it seriously. A statement from the police said they are ‘working with the local mosques’ The BBC actually reported it and gave a link which gives you access to the vid. Gays v Muslims, whose side is the Beeb on?
The BBC has now reported on an alleged Shariah enforcement video:
Homophobic ‘vigilante’ video appears online
The headline for the link to it on the main UK news page says “Gay hate ‘vigilante’ video posted”. No mention of the multicultural connection. I guess it’s not important because the main concern could be the homophobia angle, full stop, and not the religious reason behind it. Although they can’t play it that way for very long, I think.
The BBC has weighted their report in the direction of the video being a false flag operation, as well as playing down the Mohammedan angle. We get condemnation from the ultimate fundamentalist voice, the East London Mosque, which I guess is the main house of worship in the vicinity. The BBC also chose their opening verbs very carefully indeed.
A video has appeared online showing men shouting homophobic abuse at another man in east London, telling him to “get out of here” as “it is a Muslim area”.
“A video has appeared…” Lame. Who posted it? Nobody wants to say. Either nobody at the BBC has done the research someone at The Commentator did, which is posted clearly on the Gates of Vienna site (h/t George R above), or they just don’t want to reveal it. It’s not a court case yet, so they can’t use that an excuse. I still suspect it’s a false flag op myself, but that doesn’t make it right for the BBC to play games like this. Either come out and say there’s a suspicion about it, or report the background to the group who posted the videos.
Finally today the BBC deems this story worthy of reporting, but only after the gang went after something closer to home for the BBC than just ordinary people – gays.
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They wouldn’t have reported it at all if Stonewall hadn’t called them up.
The BBC article links to the GayStarNews, where there are some, shall we say, robust comments.
“They don’t belong here, they should go back to the Middle East where they can be as intolerant as they like (or dare) to be.”
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That is not a matter of racism, BUT if England is a traditionally ‘Christian’ country and Christians don’t go about singling out turfs and [forcing] people to conform to their religious doctrines, WHY should Muslims be allowed to do so when their religion is founded in the middle east? I do not care if you are white, black or green; Born or naturalised British, if you feel strongly about your religious views to the point you believe everyone around you should conform to your religious standards, you need to find that country whose government and people fully support your religion!”
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Aleem, fuck of you daft cunt, fuck right off back to your shitty country, UK is for people who want to assimilate, don’t want to behave like a citizen of the UK, you want to act like a bloody Moose-limb, go the fuck back to where Moose-limbs rule.
Islam is the bane of this world’s existence, and need’s to be exterminated.”
Plenty more where that came from. These comments have not been moderated, not deleted. I’m sure Scott and dez and Jim Dandy and prole and colditz and Nicked emus will rush right over there and condemn this hate site. No?