This report is in marked contrast to the one on the BBC website which fails to mention the word ‘Muslim’….though on a radio news bulletin they do get round to it….5 men arrested….‘who claimed to be Muslim’ says the BBC.
That’ll be right…it’s all an EDL plot……..all to make Muslims look racist, homophobic and intolerant of British culture.
One thing that would prove though…is that the EDL are not racist…because there is no doubt from the videos that these ‘undercover EDL members’ have brown skin and ‘non-white’ accents….unless of course….they’ve ‘blacked up’ and adopted a rather convincing ethnic accent and are roaming Muslim areas pretending to be Muslim…is that what the BBC are implying?
Diversity…you’ve got to celebrate it…unless you’re someone claiming to be Muslim obviously.
‘Five men aged between 17 and 29 years old have been arrested since Sunday, all on suspicion of grievous bodily harm and public order offences.’
Something not right here. Five men arrested. On suspicion of GBH. Now that is not seen on the films. What we saw was harassment and homophobia. So by whom and where was the GBH offence allegedly committed? Surely they have not arrested members of the British public for responding? Information urgently needed.
News from Nottingham, via the Beeb’s online portal:
Council to pay staff living wage
HS2 route ‘could cost 6,000 jobs’
Bus company will cease trading
Husband in court for wife murder
Police sued by retired officers
Wife ‘so proud’ of killed UK hostage
Lovely, but hold on, I just read something in “The Sun” that seems to be missing from this list of stories…
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4763915/I-didnt-know-sex-with-13-year-old-was-illegal-says-student-18-who-blames-Muslim-teaching.html
Maybe it’s because they CANNOT hide the “M” word in this case?
What a good thing that they had the temerity to hassle a homosexual – had it just been ethnic British girls and young heterosexuals they probably would be given no more than a gentle *talking to*, if that!
Det Ch Insp Wendy Morgan, stationed in Tower Hamlets borough, said: “The Met takes such homophobic behaviour very seriously.
“This man is a crucial witness in the investigation and we would encourage him and anyone else with information to make contact in confidence as soon as possible.”
In the latest video, the man is told: “Get out of here you fag… Don’t stay around here any more.”
Typical PC reaction from Stonewall though –
Gay rights group Stonewall said: “This incident is yet another reminder of the homophobic abuse that gay people face all too often.”
Unwilling to name and shame!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21175721
if stonewall had said anything else the bbc wouldn t have printed it anyway
‘Typical PC reaction from Stonewall’, or perhaps the BBC picked the section of their statement that suited them best. Stonewall has never been shy of highlighting Muslim regimes that murder gays because of their sexuality, which is something the BBC has.
radio 5live news, three “men” hated the british wanted to bomb us, murder and maim soldiers,
no M word alert again from the bbc.
A Muslim is a follower of the religion of Islam and so of course is an Islamist. In the same way a stamp collector follows the hobby of philately and is therefore a philatelist.
I just do not understand the reasons for the BBC or anyone else in trying to make them into different things. The BBC is apparently happy to use ‘Islamist’ nowadays to denote, not a just religious person, but someone who is a warrior type, a rebel, a militant rather than speaking plain and calling them a terrorist. On the other hand they will not describe them as Muslims, as this is apparently a crime of speech against our new countrymen with far flung origins and unconventional habits. And as we know crimes of speech are now imprisonable offences.
If the BBC is correct and these ‘ist’ folks are up to no good then it must follow that a philatelist is also a very dangerous person, however a stamp collector is a fine fellow and should be commended for trying to kerb the excesses of the horrible philatelists.
Now we all know that is rubbish and so is the BBC in its pedantic perambulations of verbose crapitube, but why? For what purpose are they splitting these hairs of the English language? What has allowed Labour’s 20th century daft political correctness to turn into plain and simple media speak madness? I am without sufficient manner of articular prowess to find an answer.
What I can tell you is this; the BBC is no longer a national treasure it is now simply a corporate dinosaur, a colossus with the brain of a pea, and we know what happened to the dinosaurs. The trouble is it took millions of years and an extinction event to get rid of them and I’m not sure I can wait!
I’m of the opinion that if sufficient people refuse to pay the tv licence, thereby not being able to watch live broadcast tv, then the other tv companies will do our job for us, by demanding the government divorce watching live broadcasts from having a bbc licence. Why? Because the more people refuse to buy a licence the more it will directly affect the profits of other tv companies who rely on advertising for a lot of their revenue. Once that becomes a factor, the licence will be abolished.
Agree entirely. Unfortunately, we’re too compliant. If we were more rebellious we could change many things.
I try to be, in a small way, with bossy officials etc but my wife doesn’t like it. I’ve told her many times (as tactfully as possible!) that she’s part of the problem.
Yes I agree . But how do you get this message across and persuade hundreds of thousands to not pay the License Fee? If it could be done then i think it would be marvellous.
Can’t agree with Quentin Thunderpants. All Islamists are Muslim but not all Muslims are Islamists. Just as the chief victims of crime commited by the (non) working class are the poor, the non Islamist Muslim is the chief victim of crimes committed by the Islamists. 9/11 and 7/7 were spectacular terrorist street theatre but actually far from the norm for Islamic violence.
But what exactly is an “islamist”? I don’t recall having ever heard this word until a few weeks ago.
It’s just a shorthand for very enthusuastic Muslims at the other end of the spectrum to the slacker ones. The joke is that it is such a spatchcock religion that , while ‘secular’ Muslims and those who disagree with stoning adulterers, forcing the hijab on girls etc can rightly be called un-Islamic, nobody could ever accuse a bin Laden or al Awlaki (or Abu Hamza) of being any such thing.
“Very enthusiastic Muslims”
Look out for that appearing in a BBC news report near you very soon!
For what purpose are they splitting these hairs of the English language?
I think they were overrun. I watched a lot of France 24 on Mali and it was continually used in English, German news followed using Islamists, in all their reporting. I think BBC were put in an impossible position and decided not to use “militants”. Its still 1984ish because all the previous BBC reporting on the religion of peace and its N. African coverage will now have to be altered.
The AFP report isn’t any better than the BBC, really. They may say the word “Muslim” when referring to the character of the videos, but the people arrested for it are simply “men”. Non-descript, no distinguishing characteristics other than the Y chromosome and majority age. Is this a false flag deal or not? Something tells me that, if it was, the police would have announced it immediately. Since it’s just “men” of an indeterminate background, suspicions are raised the other way. My original suspicion that it’s a false flag op is still alive, though.
The first BBC report (which reality forced them to make after they tried to suppress it), did mention the “M” word, and this is just a follow-up. The BBC’s behavior on this story is pathetic enough already, no need to worry about not using the “M” word in this quick announcement.
If you want to see the non-homophobic law giving you can see it here: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=beb_1358359911
Quite shocking, I did post this in comments a while back but it was right at the bottom so may have been missed by some.
It would be laughable if it were not so serious the ridiculous lengths the Beeb go to in avoiding using the “M” word. This evenings news brought us another tragic tale of a paedo’ grooming gang standing trial at The Old Bailey. We were informed the men were “from Oxford”; there was no mention of their ethnicity, religion or cultural background. It’s an embarassing and pathetic shambles. We are left to draw our own conclusions from seeing the court artists sketches. I’ve got a strong feeling these chaps aren’t Hindus.
how about the similar case going on in leicester at the moment. on their red button news it just says six local men ,so what with it being 1, the bbc, and 2 leicester, are we to assume these locals are also muslims, and if so why the hell is it being kept quiet.
Always remember NUJ guidelines, it’s Men for muslims, yoofs for blacks.
And activists are people who oppose regimes the BBC disapprove of.
And it’s ‘demonstrators’ for the hot-headed mob of vandals and thugs of the extreme Left.
And “far right racist EDL member” for any white man with a tattoo and short hair.
They don’t even need the tattoo!
This was on the BBC Birmingham newsite as the lead story earlier today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-21185342
Was this non-story of a girl being called ‘racist’ names put on to take attention away from the muslim vigilantes ?
And again from Al-Beeb…..Let the BBC never mention the word “Islam” no matter what their followers attempt to do…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21197795
The BBC and their Guardian reading lefty friends have burnt their bridges.
What ever happens they will all lose.
The self-anointed shariah police would have received nothing other than great understanding and tolerance from the police and sundry pretrendy leftie talking heads BUT… they made the big big mistake of using the word ‘fag’.
The howls of the shriekocracy which otherwise would have been directed in their support were instead turned against them.
Basic basic error.
I suspect you are correct, but there is a problem here if the sharia vigilanties learn from it, and stop harassing homosexuals, but turn to other things. Eg stopping alcohol sales. The MSM will ignore anything else.
I think its worth paying attention to ‘muslim patrols’ other video where they attention to advertising billboards for H&M lingerie that have been in their words ‘niqarbed’
They disclaim responsibility for them while heaping praise on the perpetrators
Juxtaposition with this report which as far as I know did not appear on BBC broadcast news either
“M&S lingerie ad complaints rejected
Press Association – Wed, Jan 23, 2013”
Half way into report we find this statement
“It added that its media agency always applied “location sensitivity” to M&S’s ad placements and was particularly careful when it came to lingerie, especially avoiding schools and ethnic community areas where they could be considered inappropriate or would be more likely to cause offence.”
(I wonder if bourgeois socialist comedian Russell Howard can find a joke in that? )
A worrying development I think.
About time the Muslims patrolled around Hampstead or Islington .
Plenty of freaks round there that need teaching a lesson.
According to Auntie islam allows homosexual marriage (just replace the confetti with stones) –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12486003
Love the quote where Sarah-she who converted to Islam five years ago…found herself shocked that the Muslim community were far from pleased…maybe even a “touch homophobic”.
Do Madrassas have “Special Needs Provision” for the likes of dear, poor Sarah?.. I`m guessing that all those Tehran cranes dangling bitter pistachios of blokes are merely helping men to overcome their sexism, and getting a good backstretch into the bargain, in her world!
Any correlation then between converting to Islam and being a “little special” when they were at school then?
No matter though-I note the bit about Islamophobia expressed to poor Sarah on her gay pride march, by a couple of gays…so it`s all quite balanced really in Beebland!
Ah, who`s to say?…only the BBC when they`re good and ready.
And yet-unusually, not a quote from the MCB, Inyat or Anjem to end the piece…do you think poor Adrian was worried about that surname of his…let alone his asking them about gay nikah?
That fearless BBC , asking the questions the rest of us won`t dare…erm…got a bit of interference on the line sadly…
I wonder who would beat who if they fell out? The koran is quite specific when it comes to man-woman marriage. If they beat each other up they’d both need burkhas to hide the bruises – and then their lezzie friends wouldn’t be able to tell who was playing the bloke. Very confusing.
I wonder if trannies should be allowed islamic marriages too? This should be put to a QT panel – Buggerwallah, Harman, Tatchell, Rusbridger and the outgoing Archmullah of Canterbury come to mind. Pounce could chair, with a mallet.
Bizarrely, Iran comes only second to Thailand in the number of sex change operations per year, all with the blessing of the mullahs – and they seem to be allowed to marry, despite homosexuality being a capital offence. These Shiites can be a bit odd, what with their temporary marriages that are virtually religiously approved prostitution.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7259057.stm
Odd’s the word! I noticed on your link page that the late Ayatollah Khomeini had sanctioned these ops. He also permitted other, truly disgusting sexual activities.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=98d_1268716355
That ” book” is a real hoot!
Asra and Sarah don’t provide last names or anything that might serve to identify them. Wonder why?
I hate those ” Men,” don’t you ? Those ” Men ” are always up to something, aren’t they ? If it’s not ” Men ” hijacking airplanes and flying them into skyscrapers, it’s ” Men ” abusing girls in northern towns.
I’m just sick of ” Men” !!
In 1971 West Pakistan ethnically cleansed East Pakistan to the tune of 1.5 million people. 4 days ago the bBC reported how a Bangladesh (east Pakistani) cleric who helped the West Pakistani troops murder his fellow country men and women.
Bangladesh cleric Abul Kalam Azad sentenced to die for war crimes
“A court in Bangladesh has sentenced a well-known Muslim cleric to death for crimes against humanity during the country’s 1971 independence war”
However as this is the bBC reporting a story which places Pakistan in a bad light, they go all out in which to remake the victims as the guilty ones so we have:
“Abul Kalam Azad’s conviction is the first verdict handed down by the controversial tribunal.”
And:
“Critics of the tribunal, however, say the charges against Maulana Azad and others are politically motivated. The court is not endorsed by the United Nations”
And:
“All of the people currently indicted by the tribunal deny the charges and opposition leaders accuse the government of carrying out a political vendetta.”
And just to ensure that your mind is made up that Pakistan is the victim right at the end the bbC reports:
“Bangladesh government figures estimate more than three million people were killed during the independence war, although some researchers put the figure at between 300,000 and 500,000.”
But hang on, the bbC is talking about Pakistan as the main culprit and in typical horrible histories fashion the bbC rewrites history in which to remake Pakistan as the victim I quote from the time line in the above article:
“In December, India invades East Pakistan in support of the East Pakistani people
Really bBC, here is what actually happened:
The Indo-Pakistani War of 1971 was a military conflict between India and Pakistan. Indian, Bangladeshi and international sources consider the beginning of the war to be Operation Chengiz Khan, Pakistan’s 3 December 1971 preemptive strike on 11 Indian airbases. Lasting just 13 days it is considered one of the shortest wars in history.
Get that West Pakistan started the war and not India.
I quote:
“By November, war seemed inevitable. Throughout November, thousands of people led by West Pakistani politicians marched in Lahore and across West Pakistan, calling for Pakistan to Crush India. India responded by starting a massive buildup of Indian forces on the border with East Pakistan. The Indian military waited until December, when the drier ground would make for easier operations and Himalayan passes would be closed by snow, preventing any Chinese intervention. On 23 November, Yahya Khan declared a state of emergency in all of Pakistan and told his people to prepare for war.
On the evening of 3 December Sunday, at about 5:40 pm, the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) launched a pre-emptive strike on eleven airfields in north-western India, including Agra which was 300 miles (480 km) from the border. At the time of this attack the Taj Mahal was camouflaged with a forest of twigs and leaves and draped with burlap because its marble glowed like a white beacon in the moonlight.
This preemptive strike known as Operation Chengiz Khan, was inspired by the success of Israeli Operation Focus in the Arab-Israeli Six Day War. But, unlike the Israeli attack on Arab airbases in 1967 which involved a large number of Israeli planes, Pakistan flew no more than 50 planes to India.
In an address to the nation on radio that same evening, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi held that the air strikes were a declaration of war against India and the Indian Air Force responded with initial air strikes that very night. These air strikes were expanded to massive retaliatory air strikes the next morning and thereafter which followed interceptions by Pakistanis anticipating this action.
This marked the official start of the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971. Prime Minister Indira Gandhi ordered the immediate mobilisation of troops and launched the full-scale invasion. This involved Indian forces in a massive coordinated air, sea, and land assault. Indian Air Force started flying sorties against Pakistan from midnight. The main Indian objective on the western front was to prevent Pakistan from entering Indian soil. There was no Indian intention of conducting any major offensive into West Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971
The bBC, defending the indefensible yet again
The BBC news is so bad, it’s beyond parody.
in the middle class politacaly correct( never no working class presenters at the bbc) vibrant,diverse and multi cultural butter would not melt in muslims mouths at the bbc, i bet they was really hoping that this muslim patrol bunch of racist bigots and homophobes was edl supporters browning up pretending to be muslims..i think the accents on them videos gave that away and if there is any charges brought against these guys i will be looking carefully to see whether they are asian muslim or english names,but the hypocrisy and double standards at the far left bbc is sickening,they will have non stop coverage and endless phones ins when there is any bit of isolated predudice shown towards muslims on the likes of radio 4 and 5 live,but when its the other way round and muslims are showing hatred,racism and bigotary towards non muslims there is nothing but silence from that lot at the bbc,,that it was pisses me off big time.
@ malcolm….. if it was white lads that attacked that black girl in birmingham, believe me the police and the bbc would go out of there way to state it was racist nasty whites,i have read on birmingham websites that these boys were pakistani and the police are scared of saying that in fear of increasing racial tension in that area called winson green that has alot of racial tensions betreen black people and muslims.
racial tension? i thought britain was a multiculturaral and tollerant melting pot.
Racial tensions between communities competing for “victim” status, Black British West Indians versus Brown Muslims, Heavens to Betsy how will the bBC cope with this? There is only one dimension to racism: white folk are racist if they object to Multiculturalism. It’s the only game in town.
What if life wasn’t as simple as the white uber-Liberal Left paint it? What if black christian people don’t like brown people not because of their skin but because of the stuffing their religion down all our throats, or because they want all women to have to dress according to their idea of modesty?
Mention of religion is hate speech, mention of colour is race hate, what a mess Mr Blair has left our poor country in with his laws intended to silence the poppy-burners.
The one law lawyers do not seem to understand is the law of unintended consequences, which comes about mostly as a result of the actions of other lawyers.
There are days you almost feel sorry for the bBC. (I said almost, not actually)
For Islam Not BBC (INBBC):-
“#MYJIHAD IN UK:
JIHAD BOMBERS GIVEN 30 MILLION IN LEGAL AID FOR THEIR DEFENSE”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/01/myjihad-in-uk-jihad-bombers-given-30-million-in-legal-aid-for-their-defense.html
Correction – lawyers given $30m. There is always money for lawyers on behalf of people who have no money. It’s an legal industry gravy train, representing penniless scum. The whole Human Rights Industry depends on the public purse. Very conveniently, Government lawyers seem to decide how much other lawyers should get of our money. For some reason lawyers are a law unto themselves.
The Lord Chancellors office decrees Cherie Blair (and the rest of Matrix Chambers) should be paid a quarter million a year each to represent cases like muslim headscarf-wearing schoolgirls and other matters of vital public interest. Jolly profitable – keeps our champagne socialists – in champagne.
“Muslim abuser who ‘didn’t know’ that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail”
By Paul Bentley.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html
I was always under the impression that ignorance of the law is no excuse. Or is it that child sex is such a common occurrence in his culture they don’t consider there to be anything wrong with it? Answers on a postcard to the Home office.
Equally I was under the impression that
being drunk was no mitigation,that seems to have changed now.For some at least
Apparently being taught that women were ‘no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground’ is a defence against rape charges. I think this merits a discussion on women’s hour.
And that’s “women”, not 13 year old children.
The rape of an 11 year old white by a black wasn’t classed as a hate crime, either –
http://www.london24.com/news/crime/appeal_after_girl_11_raped_in_jubilee_park_lower_edmonton_enfield_1_1708383#
It is time our lovable hate preacher was interviewed by the BBC
.http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/427051/20130123/shariah-uk-muslims.htm
If we start excusing people who have committed crimes because their education was ‘odd or poor’ then we will have a tidal wave of all colours and creeds because the education system in this country produces so many who can barely speak let alone read or write.
“In the defendants culture, kidnapping and beheading is normal”
The defence rests.
Who needs islamic courts when we’ve got our own?
This will turn out to be one of those moderate muslims i expect!
“Muslim Gangs Enforce Sharia Law in London”
by Soeren Kern.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3555/sharia-law-london
i wonder when they will enforce Sharia Law in Soho?