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‘BBC 1 Breakfast are bringing me alarming reports that England football fans ‘sang racist chants’ recently. This all has to be gone into and investigated they insist, since it simply has to be stamped out.
I’ve come to be a little wary of what the BBC tell me. Particularly when there is a vagueness about their reports and some PC issues at stake. I know the impression that they want to give the mass audience – racism is everwhere, England football fans are evil and racist. But is this true? Afterall the BBC told me earlier this week that Liverpool football fans were all saintly and innocent.
So five minutes of my own investigation informs me the ‘bonfire song’ is a regular feature of the terraces often deployed by – for example – Newcastle fans against their local rivals from Sunderland . Not very pleasant but where’s the racism? Is their blackness the one and only thing the Ferdinand brothers are known for?
Could it be that England fans are little better informed about their sport and its stars than the BBC Breakfast front bench wishes the rest of the nation to know about?
Rio Ferdinand has been banned for eight months and fined £50,000 by the Football Association after being found guilty of missing a drugs test.
IT was footballs wildest holiday, when future England stars Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard and Kieron Dyer were caught on camera in sex romps.
In April last year Leeds player Michael Duberry and Manchester United’s Rio Ferdinand were accused of indecent assault and threatening behaviour in a Leeds nightclub.
The claims were made during the rape trial of a Leeds man, who was later convicted.
Martin Luther King claimed his victim said she had been indecently assaulted by Mr Duberry and threatened by Mr Ferdinand in the club, before the rape by Mr King took place.
The CPS said there was insufficient evidence to prosecute the players.
BBC plays down Moyles ‘faggot’ row
The BBC has dismissed as “banter” an incident on Chris Moyles’ Radio 1 show today in which footballer Rio Ferdinand called the DJ a “faggot”.
Rio Ferdinand fined £45,000 by FA over ‘choc ice’ tweet
Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand has been fined £45,000 after being found guilty of improper conduct over comments he made relating to the John Terry racism
The 33-year-old defender, who has played 81 times for England, was given a six-month ban despite being represented by lawyer Nick Freeman, nicknamed Mr Loophole for his ability to get celebrities off driving charges.
Anton Ferdinand was today charged with assault and violent disorder after an incident outside Faces nightclub in Ilford on October 2.
Prosecutor Alex Agbamu said Ferdinand had offered a number of explanations for events that night, claiming he had acted in self defence and fearing he would be mugged for his £64,000 watch.
The court heard that Emile Walker was allegedly assaulted by a group of men outside the nightclub including Ferdinand and another man identified by Mr Walker as Ferdinand’s cousin, who has not been named.
England needed Rio to be like Nobby Stiles, not out partying with Harry Styles.
‘What reasons?’ Rio Ferdinand once asked. Obviously, he had forgotten about his intricate, pre-planned programme that day.
It must have slipped his mind, too, last month when he announced he would pack his bags and go straight there if selected by England. No mention of an intricate pre-planned programme in that statement, either.
Indeed, for a programme so intricate, not to mention pre-planned, Ferdinand does seem to have rather a peculiar attitude to it.
Traipsing around behind the latest pop fad while the England manager remained in the dark about an impending crisis, Ferdinand seemed to epitomise the self-absorption of so many modern footballers — more Harry Styles than Nobby Stiles.
When discussing his controversial withdrawal from the latest England squad, Rio Ferdinand spoke of his strict fitness regime and how both ‘rest and recuperation’ was a crucial part in allowing him to continue to compete at the highest level.
What he did not first mention was that that strict regime allowed him to work as a pundit for Al Jazeera in a job involving a 15-hour round trip.
Controversial: England’s fans were understandably unhappy at Rio Ferdinand’s withdrawal from the latest squad
BBC: Don’t take their word for anything.
it seems like there is a witchunt against white people in this country at the moment by what i would describe as black radical white haters who look for any comment made by white people which is then spun to be racist even though it is not racist,peter herbert from the racist named soceity of black lawyers is behind all this race baiting and stirring,this man is the black version of nick griffin,as for these false made up allegations of racism at san marino,well thats what is was, false disgusting allegations by .f.a.r.e.i am sick of these so called anti racists who are in fact the biggest racists going,these people have there own politacal agenda and in fact quite dangerous in my view,this so called anti racist f.a.r.e black lobby group send spys to football matches hoping they hear white people making racists comments is just what happens in communist dictatorships,thats is fascism and not democrasy.
I think you’ll find that most black people couldn’t give a rats arse about all this racism shite, and that the reality is it is white radical white haters. yes lunatics on the left who hate themselves and everyone else like them allowed the power to spread their bile over everyone else.
“I think you’ll find that most black people couldn’t give a rats arse about all this racism shite…”
You have of course sought the opinion of “most black people”?
Anecdotal, but all of the “black” people I know are concerned about racism; if for no other reason that they have been subjected to it.
“…and that the reality is it is white radical white haters…”
Ridiculous false dichotomy; that if you oppose prejudice against one section of society – you must therefore be prejudiced against your own.
The allegations (whether justified or not) where against a small section of football supporters. Not “Whites”.
‘Anecdotal, but all of the “black” people I know are concerned about racism’
Thus, any perceived slight or claim from this quarter must be prosecuted to the full force of the various laws or media conventions rather loosely designed to ‘cover’ nuanced issues with the subtlety of a stonking great sledgehammer?
The presumption that your adding ‘Anecdotal’ at the start renders your offering objective wisdom status whilst, to you, thoughtful’s ‘I think you’ll find..’ is ridiculous, suggest a level of delusional lack of irony that would be funny if not serious.
You both are offering opinions based on experiences, and experiences perhaps shaped by the circles you move in.
Quite how yours trump those of others is unclear.
Dez, you allow no leeway on this, which is wrong.
You won’t agree with me, but I think the neo-Communist left are using different races and cultures in order to fragment and destabilise the West in order to further leftist power – if not finally bring about their longed for revolution.
In other words, they are using race and the anti-Western ideology of multiculturalism as a specific weapon against traditional Western States.
If race is your main weapon of choice, and you wish to achieve a total Blitzkrieg, it would make sense to remove your enemy’s principal defence system against your principal weapon.
Hence the invention of “racism” as the Cardinal Sin of all sins and the heavily biased anti-white use of racism we see all around us on a daily basis, firmly entrenched within the government, civil service, the police, the entire MSM, state funded “anti-racist” pressure groups (which never have whites as victims) local government, universities, schools and even nurseries where children as young as three are monitored for “racist” attitudes.
If you want to argue with me about this you had better come prepared Dez, because there is so much evidence out there which backs up my argument – and very little backing up yours.
One question: Do you agree that ALL native races and cultures have a legal and moral right to retain their culure and homeland in accordance with UN guidelines?
Paul Weston. Chairman, Liberty GB.
Anti-racism is the most constructed of social constructs
“Paul Weston. Chairman, Liberty GB.”
Did you spend a lot of time playing with a John Bull Printing Outfit when you where a child Paul?
http://goo.gl/T8LbD
Great intellectual argument Dez!
I rather suspected you would be unable to take up my challenge. How can you (and the entire liberal/left) hold the peculiar political views you do, if you are totally unable to defend them?
As I have said before, I think you lot are one of three things: Insane, malevolently evil or just astonishingly ignorant.
BLACKS ARE UNDER-REPRESENTED IN FOOTBALL!
IT’S A NAZI SPORT . . . . . FACT!!
The massive over-representation of blacks in football is the main instance of racism. Around 1/3rd of Premier League footballers are black; blacks only make up around 3% of the general population, meaning they are over-represented by a factor of 10. Strict racial quotas should be enforced to reflect this demographic meaning, for instance, that there would be no more than one (if that) black player in the England football squad. Extremists have claimed that things should be based on merit and ability alone; however, this is not the system used by the BBC and other broadcasters in appointing newsreaders, childrens television presenters, or by Avon Fire Service in recruiting firefighters, or by the Labour/LibDem/Conservative party in nominating political candidates.
“BBC 1 Breakfast are bringing me alarming reports that England football fans ‘sang racist chants’ recently.”
Also reported by The Daily Mail:
http://goo.gl/EEVOM
The Sun:
http://goo.gl/v9i4n
The Telegraph:
http://goo.gl/BDPfi
…The Times, The Mirror, The Guardian, The Independent, The Metro, Sky, ESPN, The Irish Times, The Daily Star and The Bangkok Post!
“I’ve come to be a little wary of what the BBC tell me. Particularly when there is a vagueness about their reports and some PC issues at stake.”
Likewise with posters to B-BBC who are particularly vague about what was actually said on “BBC 1 Breakfast”.
Allegations of racism were made, the FA found them to be invalid.
What is the objection to the BBC covering this story like every other news source listed above?
Also reported by The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Telegraph, The Times, The Mirror, The Guardian, The Independent, The Metro, Sky, ESPN, The Irish Times, The Daily Star, The Bangkok Post…combined readership 20 million? Read once and thrown away…
BBC, combined radio and TV listener-ship (70% of UK at least gets their main news from the BBC) across all radio and TV channels?…every hour or half hour? BBC most read and most re-tweeted Twitter feed. BBC 2nd most read news website?
‘Allegations of racism were made, the FA found them to be invalid’
Ergo – it becomes a massive ‘story’ on the BBC
So Dez, are you suggesting that the BBC does not have a disproportionately huge response reflex to ‘racism’ stories reflecting their unwritten internal agenda?
Dez…. The problem that many people of us have with the BBCs` reporting of the so called `racist chanting` at the San Marino match is this….. Whilst the tabloid press did indeed also falsely report an unproven accusation as `fact` before awaiting the outcome of the FA investigations of the matter, which actually turned out to be false and completely unfounded. Your favourite media corporation blithely carried on repeating the false allegations throughout the day, and also added further `opinion pieces` from various sources mainly from ethnic minority race lobby groups whose only contributions were false allegations of inherent racism on the football terraces backed up with no factual evidence or proof of thier claims… Also the BBC further stirred the pot by pulling the twitter feeds made by Rio Ferdinand stating ¬i`ll wait until the FA investigations` findings are published before I comment on the racist behaviour of the England fans directed at me` (notice he also lied about it and acted the injured party in all this even though he knew 100% that the fans were targetting him not becouse of his colour but becouse of his lack of loyalty to the England football squad when it came to a choice of patriotism or a few sheckels of Arab TV cash. Also the fact that he had lied about his motives in refusing to represent the country that wouldn`t have asked him to play if they had not needed his presence on the pitch) To me, it seems that he was more than willing to play the `race` card becouse in his twisted view of morallity the fans backlash needed an answer, and unlike others he had decided that the answer was to get `revenge` on England for catching him out on his dishonesty and deplorable behaviour in the few days prior to the San Marino match… A normal person would have been embaressed and would have apologised, not him though, the guy is so far up his own ar$e that he thinks he is beyond criticism and that his feelings and needs are all that matters… He knew that if even one fan had said anything remotely racist the whole whirlwind of effluent being stirred up would result in FIFA ruling that England would play thier next home fixture behind closed doors… Which TBH would further damage our chances of makin g it to Brazil…. In my eyes this makes him a massive w*nker and also makes him a player that should never ever be asked to represent England ever again…. He doesn`t give a flying f*ck about anyone but himself and TBH if I saw him in the street I would quite happily give him a fist in his lying selfish vacuus mouth…. If I were a member of any team he played for I would refuse to play alongside a man who has no actual loyalty or was worthy of trust… He is quite happy to lie for the sake of a pound note so in my mind is capable of taking a bribe to change a games result, and as a central defender is ideally placed to ensure a result ends in the desired direction… Bear in mind the number of times his recent perchant for making `mistakes` which resulted in a goal over the last few years…. Not only that but he clearly has no respect for the fans, his team mates or those members of the public he has treated with disrespect… He should be treated as a social pariah by everyone and should make an abject and sincere (if possible) apology as soon as possible as he brings the whole game into disrepute and furthers the false agenda of the so called anti racism industry which works hand in hand with the BBC who much like himself are incapable of self analysis or morality when it comes to themselves….
Was it not a relation of Ferdinand’s who made allegations of racism against John Terry? And who did Terry replace as England captain? Coincidence or what?
The reason Ferdinand was the subject of the song in question was because, having been left out of the England Squads for some time, when he was recalled to the team he turned down the offer claiming, if I recall correctly, some kind of mysterious injury. What made matters worse he then, during the same period, was fit enough to travel to the Middle East to act as pundit for a different match. Personally I don’t doubt he had some kind of injury which genuinely meant playing was not an option but fans, when their team is struggling, are not so forgiving.
Had the fans been inclined to hurl racist abuse I’m certain they would have left nobody in any doubt and other non-white players would have also received some kind of abuse of a racist nature.
The fact that no other non-white player was allegedly abused would seem to indicate that Ferdinand was made the subject of a rather common song taunting opponents or players who have caused fans upset would seem to indicate his colour was not a cause of the chanting but rather that he had ducked playing for his country. I’ve little doubt that such chanting would have been happened had any other player, irrespective of race, colour or creed, acted in the same way. I rather suspect that, as a result of past well publicised court cases, the moment Ferdinand was mentioned some mischief making opportunists saw it as a convenient vehicle to push their own particular hobbyhorse.
I don’t know if there were chants or not, if they were I don’t know the reason for them. But I am sure that if a report is done and it concludes there were no racist chants there will be very coverage of nits conclusions by the BBC.
I suspect nobody in authority would commission an investigation unless he was sure it would conclude that all white English football fans are racist.
‘A Biased BBC reader send this and thought it worth sharing!’
You thought wrong.
There is too much attention given to football full stop, never mind the BBC over egging stories about racism for their own motives.
Let Ferdinand and the BBC carry on with their hyper-sensitivity and false claims.
And let them be judged as liars just like the boy who cried wolf.
Both the Ferdinand brothers are deeply unpopular with football fans. They seem to have set themselves up as arbiters of perceived “racism”. That’s quite amusing if you think about some of the charming remarks Rio has made! The fact that a common (and unpleasant) footballing chant stirs up so much over hyped angst shows just how unstable multicultural societies are.
Meanwhile, in a parallel universe where the BBC still practices the lost art of journalism they would have reported this bit of background:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098325/Boss-footballs-anti-racism-group-branded-racist-calling-Asian-fan-coconut.html
Sure sounds an entirely trustworthy middle of the road moderate to me!
How about this for an idea???? When Dez turns up again on other threads over the next seven days…. How about if we all just keep finishing our replies with “BTW what was the outcome of the investigations into the racist chanting aimed at Rio Ferdinand then??? We looked on the BBC site but they stopped updating it every fifteen minutes about the same time you disappeared…… Did the BBC manage to find some kind of a link between a song about a bonfire and the inherent racism in football???
We can just keep going on about it the way he did to see how long it is before he goes full retard on us….
“How about if we all just keep finishing our replies with “BTW what was the outcome of the investigations into the racist chanting aimed at Rio Ferdinand then???”
I’ve already said; “Allegations of racism were made, the FA found them to be invalid.”
As reported by the BBC:
“While we have no reason to dispute the media reports which are without doubt made for the right reasons of fighting racism, at this time we have not found any recorded evidence of the specific discriminatory chanting referring to Rio and Anton Ferdinand.”
http://bbc.in/ZvHVGa
So what exactly is your problem?
Yeah but… I will of course be posting the same question to you all day…. Same as you did yesterday….. Its annoying isn`t it?? Especially when it is yet another instance of you being a facile and pedantic pro BBC online activist who has been made to look rather foolish after spending so much time counting and collating all the BBC updates so you could share them with us, who really were hanging on your every word and wondering at the same time about the connection between a song about a bonfire and the concept of intentional racist intent…..
And my problem is that you constantly play the race card whenever you get the chance becouse you think that it is your right as a member of an ethnic minority to do so…. I have watched the way you accuse everyone of being little Englanders etc. You live here in England and that makes every anti British sentiment you put forward a condemnation of yourself and shows you to be as arrogant as your peadophile infested friends in the BBC who also refuse to accept that other people have opinions too and are getting tired of false flag racism crimes and jumped up little nobodies like yourself making thinly vieled accusations that we too are racists as well….. Thing is, my parents are from the catholic section of N.Ireland and I am offended by you always assuming you can cry victim status becouse you are of an ethnic minority… I don`t have a problem with being British and have no problem with the British way of life or its sense of patriotism, I live in England and I live within the rules and laws of the land… You live here too but constantly deride the British and thier ways….so just what is YOUR problem??? BTW how many other media sources retracted the story along with the BBC??? Also what did Rio “Choc Ice” Ferdinand say about it on his twitter feed???