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  1. George R says:
    April 12, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Fracking facts: irrelevant to BBC-NUJ high-cost ‘greenie’ lobby:-

    “Fracking: No great shakes says definitive British study.
    “Court cases and studies have shown time and again that fears over earth tremors and threats to drinking water acquifers have no basis in fracking facts.”

    By Peter Glover.

    http://www.thecommentator.com/article/3230/fracking_no_great_shakes_says_definitive_british_study

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    • pah says:
      April 13, 2013 at 3:26 pm

      Love the way a lot of the reviewers are trying to put people off buying by saying it is an anti-Thatcher song (and then review it as 1 star!)

      Almost as if they are worried isn’t it?

      Either way a hijack of the song in the same way as Ding Dong The Witch is Dead has been hijacked is in order.

      NB Now at no. 2 for the days sales whilst the other song is no. 360. Is their spite is running out of steam?

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  3. George R says:
    April 12, 2013 at 10:30 pm

    Beeboids seem to be concerned about issues of bullying in the workplace, so they will be interested in this?:-

    “Christian airport worker vows to take Muslim bullying case to Luxembourg after being granted right to appeal against sacking”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308268/Christian-airport-worker-wins-right-appeal-tribunal.html#ixzz2QHmWMJLo

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  4. #88 says:
    April 12, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    A couple of weeks on, and the story having taken a new twist, the BBC still have still not said a word about Chuka Umunna’s manipulation of his facebook profile or his description of Londoners as trash.

    Imagine if Boris had have insulted Londoners’ in that way. As for manipulating social media, we don’t need to imagine anything…look at the way Grant Shapps was pursued by the massed ranks of the lefties in New Broadcasting House

    It’s not only what they say…it’s what they don’t report that betrays the BBC’s activism

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    • Guest Who says:
      April 13, 2013 at 10:26 am

      ‘ the BBC still have still not said a word about Chuka Umunna’s manipulation of his facebook profile’
      —-
      Always a dangerous assertion, when there’s a Flokker about with access to Peter Rippon’s search tools and prepared to look an utter numptie citing a site page in face of massive broadcast assault.
      In other news, it is interesting what the BBC is keen to mention, albeit coyly using others to mention how constantly agonised the BBC is about mentioning the unmentionable.
      You almost think they were playing games again.

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  5. George R says:
    April 12, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Will Beeboids take up the issues of the front-page report of Saturday’s ‘Daily Mail’?:- [‘Guardian’ & P.Toynbee’s hubby involved]-

    “Princess Diana fund cynically hijacked by the Left: How money is being diverted to pro-immigration campaign fund.
    “Secret project saw hundreds of thousands of pounds towards pro-immigration campaigns.
    “Close friend of the late Diana describes it as ‘outrageous.’
    “Labour MP Frank Field says organisations ‘undermine MigrationWatch.’
    By JAMES SLACK, MICHAEL SEAMARK and REBECCA ENGLISH

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308315/Diana-fund-hijacked-left-Cash-diverted-pro-immigration-campaign.html#ixzz2QI1np7QG

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    • #88 says:
      April 12, 2013 at 11:36 pm

      Some of you might remember this posted in February by Richard Pinder

      ‘Richard Pinder says:

      February 9, 2013 at 2:58 pm

      The left-wing cess pit at the BBC seems to be coming apart in this BBC civil war set off by the Jimmy Savile investigation. Neo-Communist Purpose Socialist Workers, and now a Militant Tendency revival.

      The evidence that the BBC is more left-wing than Labour is mounting.

      It looks as if more and more Labour politicians are seeing the BBC as a problem akin to a loony left militant tendency infiltration.

      Frank Field is worried that Migration Observatory is linking up with the BBC.

      Migration Observatory and the BBC both push the same left-wing views on immigration as the Guardian, but both insist they are impartial.

      Indications are that Migration Observatory was set up with the purpose of pushing out the voice of Migration Watch from the BBC, and replacing it with waffle. ‘

      It is clear that the public is being manipulated by these BBC / Guardian activists

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  6. T Smith says:
    April 12, 2013 at 11:21 pm

    I offer my apologies to all readers as this is my 3rd post re Lady Thatcher but I am so infuriated by the manner of the news delivery and agenda that the bbc (and sky news(just as appalling)) is pursuing……….Finally, this evening they actually took a little action in demonstrating their bias………they have actually made it a news item that bbc radio will be playing ‘ding dong the bitch is dead’ or whatever that left wing filth morrisey has entitled it over the weekend……….How can this possibly be a news item? I suspect that 99% of the tv consuming public have never heard of this piece of ‘music’ but the bbc (and sky news) just have to make it part of the news agenda. All of their output re the death of Lady Thatcher, I believe is purely to incite public disorder at the funeral so that the demonstrators can feel ‘justified’ in their protest.
    I am generally a middle of the road guy with reasonable views….I am totally unrepresented in the Britain of today.

    I have to say that if I had the power I would close down the bbc this evening, for ever. I don’t think they actually realise how much credibility they are losing (already lost) with the ‘normal’ people in this Country.

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  7. John Paul Jones says:
    April 13, 2013 at 12:32 am

    It appears that Human Rights Watch has criticised Hamas for the failure to investigate the killing of 7 alleged collaborators, who were executed in November 2012. the body of one of the 7, all convicted by a ‘military court’ before execution, was dragged through the streets from a rope tied to a motor cycle. See full BBC story below:

    “Hamas failed to probe Palestinian ‘collaborator’ deaths
    Armed men dragged a body of a suspected collaborator through the streets of Gaza
    Human Rights Watch says Gaza’s Hamas government has failed to investigate the killings of seven Palestinians accused of collaborating with Israel.
    The men were shot in public and the body of one was dragged through the streets by a motorcycle.
    The incident took place in November (2013) during the eight-day conflict between Hamas and Israel.
    HRW said a promised inquiry into their deaths seemed not to have begun, a claim denied by Hamas.
    The men had already been convicted by a military court in Gaza of spying for Israel, before armed men seized them from custody.
    But HRW said their convictions may have been based on evidence extracted through torture.
    “Hamas’s inability or unwillingness to investigate the brazen murders of seven men makes a mockery of its claims that it’s upholding the rule of law in Gaza,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director of the New York-based HRW.
    “Even before the killings, the abuses the men suffered made the criminal justice system a travesty, regardless of their guilt or innocence.”
    At the time, Hamas deputy leader Moussa Abu Marzouk called the killings “unlawful” and said the perpetrators should be punished.
    On Thursday Hamas spokesman Ihab al-Ghusain denied the HRW allegation, saying that an inquiry headed by the prosecutor general had been set up just after the incident and had already made recommendations to the cabinet.
    The HRW report came on the day Hamas had set as a deadline for suspected collaborators with Israel to turn themselves in, promising them an amnesty.

    Collaborators are widely loathed in Palestinian society.

    Gaza’s Interior Ministry spokesman Islam Shahwan said security forces would conduct large-scale arrests of suspected collaborators as soon as the amnesty period ended on Thursday evening.

    Please note that as the BBC is at pains to point out “Collaborators are widely loathed in Palestinian society”. Well that is a surprise! One would think that the Palestinians being no different from other people would hold ‘collaborators’ in the highest esteem. However, if unlike you and I they don’t then I can quite understand that they would want to shoot them right away and drag at least one, if not all the bodies, through the streets.
    Once I have to thank the BBC for its cultural sensitively and helping me understand why people would act as they do.

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    • AsISeeIt says:
      April 13, 2013 at 8:52 am

      “Collaborators are widely loathed in Palestinian society”.

      I expect the BBC see them as ‘divisive’ figures

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    • Teddy Bear says:
      April 13, 2013 at 5:28 pm

      ‘Collaborators’ is the term used by militant Palestinians for anybody who opposes their agenda. The justification being ‘if you are not for me then you are against me’. They have no way to know who might be in contact with Israeli intelligence, but they can find out who has been critical of their policies, like any sensible peace desiring person would be, and make examples of them.

      This dynamic exhibited by Hamas, Fatah, and all of the similar mentality groups in that region is one the BBC is at pains to avoid highlighting. In the same way they don’t criticise Hamas for using built up civilian areas to launch rockets at Israel, knowing it is these areas that will be counter attacked.

      I find the BBC culpable in allowing this mentality to continue and reign when every civilised society should be addressing it for what it is.

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:
        April 13, 2013 at 6:08 pm

        “Collaborators”….”undocumented immigrants”….”assault weapons”….”the Prophet Mohammed”…

        The BBC does like to use the language of a specific side of an issue. And yes, it’s wrong if other news organizations do it, too. If the BBC is supposed to be special, superior, most-respected, they ought to be required to aim higher than merely joining the crowd.

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        • Guest Who says:
          April 13, 2013 at 6:37 pm

          ‘they ought to be required to aim higher ‘
          Along with ‘supposed’, being unique does seems to render what the BBC ‘ought to be’ surplus to certain requirements.
          Luckily, fro them at least, they are unaccountable.

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  8. John Paul Jones says:
    April 13, 2013 at 12:33 am

    again

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  9. George R says:
    April 13, 2013 at 9:20 am

    ‘Daily Mail Comment’:-

    “Hijacked by the Left.
    “Today the Mail reveals how the Princess Diana Memorial Fund has been hijacked by the Left in order to fund a pro-immigration propaganda campaign.
    “Understandably, Diana’s millions of admirers – assuming their donations would go to the Princess’s favourite causes, such as Great Ormond Street Hospital – will be appalled to learn their money is now bankrolling a political project to ‘change’ Britain’s ‘negative’ attitude to mass migration.
    “Yet, as Quentin Letts writes on Page 6, this is typical of the way the Left has been allowed to infiltrate hundreds of this country’s most important charities, quangos and public bodies.
    “From Ofcom to the BBC and the NSPCC, ex-New Labour ministers and apparatchiks have seized control of the levers of power.
    “Labour-run charities – freed to indulge in political campaigning (or propaganda) by the Brown government – now wage open warfare against the Coalition over cuts.
    What is most depressing is the way David Cameron has utterly failed to remove these Labour activists from the political system and replace them with men and women more sympathetic to the Coalition’s cause.
    “In his first full year in power, an astonishing 77 per cent of people who were appointed to a public position and had a known political allegiance were Labour supporters.
    “For his – and Britain’s – sake, Mr Cameron must urgently redress the balance.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2308370/Craven-BBC-wants-cake-eat-it.html#ixzz2QKU7Ap44
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    • Teddy Bear says:
      April 13, 2013 at 3:50 pm

      We continually illustrate the Orwellian nature of the BBC, in the role of the Ministry of Thought. It appears that there is more to the Orwellian theme throughout Britain, wherein the BBC is only a part of it.

      This disturbing revelation, highlighted here by Quentin Letts, shows how the left is actually running society from beneath. Take note of the charities and organisations mentioned in the article, as they are likely to be those that the BBC invites representatives from and presents them as ‘non-political’ voices, when in fact the truth is far from that.

      This is a coup from within, and something the government must address for there to be any vestige of free society to be retained. This is serious stuff, that the ‘Common Purpose’ link touches on, and I’ve no doubt there will be more coming out about this in the near future.

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      • Dave s says:
        April 13, 2013 at 8:18 pm

        CP are in essence totalitarian. The nice totalitarianism of the caring liberal middle classes as opposed to a boot on your face.
        In many ways this is worse . Harder to identify and harder to fight against. The end is the same. The crushing of dissent.
        They have been at it a long time. The ultimate expression of the worst generation in our history. -the 68ers.

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  10. George R says:
    April 13, 2013 at 9:25 am

    “How the Left’s grip on Britain is tightening, with ever more control over key public bodies since David Cameron came to power.”
    By QUENTIN LETTS.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308301/How-Lefts-grip-Britain-tightening.html#ixzz2QKVT666q

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  11. Fred Bloggs says:
    April 13, 2013 at 10:19 am

    24h news: 10:15am. While describing attendee’s to the funeral, the commentator, mentioned the Australian and Canadian, premiers. But also added the bBC political positioning i.e. centre right and right.

    Can’t wait until they describe Milibrain as ‘loony left’.

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  12. Mat says:
    April 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/margaret-death-of-a-revolutionary/episode-guide/series-1/episode-1
    Martin Durkin will cope a whole load of screaming left wing **** for this if his other stuff is anything to go by ! !

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  13. ron todd says:
    April 13, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    Listening to ‘Any Questions’ seems like the Dimbelby in charge is acting as an extra left wing panel member more than usual.

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  14. Fred Bloggs says:
    April 13, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    This will not come as any surprise to any frequent visitor to this site. Labour used tax payers money to form a unit that appointed placemen to numerous quangos and charities. Any wonder the bBC is riddled with them.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2308301/How-Lefts-grip-Britain-tightening.html

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  15. Mark says:
    April 13, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    If there is any mayhem in London tonight involving Millwall supporters and anarchists, who will be referred to as “thugs” and who will be referred to as “demonstrators” ?

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    • Mat says:
      April 13, 2013 at 3:53 pm

      Well foot ball is a regular event and no one can say the fans are nothing but boisterous now can they! as for the Tw%t party goers and UKunu%t they will just have to take there chances!
      I just hope that the emergency services can cope with the real people who need real help ! this bunch of wasters is worse then crank callers !!

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  16. Guest Who says:
    April 13, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    I’d almost given up on The Editors blog, as it had appeared to go into hibernation during a few periods when no BBC editor wanted to be caught out in the open.
    Well, it’s back, if still closing after a few days following the wrong kind of comments on the line.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2013/04/the_great_british_class_calcul.html
    Mr. Hermann is a tried and trusted exponent of the ‘tell it often enough school’, and is in fine form…
    ‘So why has it proven so popular with our audience?’
    He also goes on to talk about engagement:
    ‘..lets everyone engage with the new model and discover where they might fit in’
    From of the look of the comments that were enough to see the plug get pulled, how one ‘fits in’ with the BBC’s way of things appears to require bending over and hoping the soap is worth the effort.

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  17. Guest Who says:
    April 13, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    OT(ish), but I have to wonder how the BBC’s market rate talents, servicing the mortgages to their Notting Hill or Wandsworth Common terraced houses with their £395,000pa salaries, will get their heads around reporting this press release:
    http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/blog/uk-uncut-stages-bedroom-tax-protests-at-lord-freud-and-iain-duncan-smiths-million-pound-mansions
    Maybe they’ll just redact it?

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    • Inky Splash says:
      April 13, 2013 at 7:04 pm

      I wonder if they will point out that the house does not belong to IDS but his in laws?

      Still who wants facts to get in the way of the agitprop?

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  18. Doublethinker says:
    April 13, 2013 at 6:27 pm

    I live well to the north of Cambridgeshire and we have much more unpleasant immigrants than Poles or other East Europeans. But the BBC refuses to allow anyone to voice anything other than content and happiness about sharing our bit of the country with these aliens. The BBC hasn’t been trustworthy for many years.

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  19. Roger Wedlake says:
    April 13, 2013 at 10:10 pm

    News at Ten, 13/4

    “500,000 chinese died fighting for N Korea in the Korean War, Their enemy was America”

    David Rattigan BBC Reporter unaware that it was the United Nations fighting the Korean War!!! WTF

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    • Albaman says:
      April 13, 2013 at 10:15 pm

      They would have see the United States as the enemy as it provided almost 90% of the UN contingent. In China the war was officially called the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea.

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  20. Guest Who says:
    April 13, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    Time for bed.
    But as I do, it would seem something interesting may be unfolding involving Panorama, the LSE (there may irony there) and North Korea.
    Seems the BBC still knows how to be in the news as much as reporting it.
    But this was all just on twitter, so it may have been a different time.
    Who knows what tomorrow may bring?

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