You couldn’t make it up……this from the BBC:
Boston bombing: How internet detectives got it very wrong
For the past 48 hours, internet users have been working with each other to piece together clues about the culprits of the Boston bombings. The result? They got it wrong – and left innocent people fearing for their safety. Many are now asking: should “crowd-sourced investigations” be stopped?
Is this the same BBC whose prestigious current affairs news programme ‘Today’ told us that the evidence was pointing towards ‘domestic’ terrorists?
Is this the same BBC whose expert, specialist security correspondent told us this:
‘So what lines is the Boston investigation following and why?
A home-grown US operator with a domestic agenda
As of Wednesday, this is thought to be the most likely culprit.
And that:
‘America has long been [Jihadists] favoured target, but there are reasons to question whether this was the work of jihadists.
There is no suicide element, the explosive used was relatively low power and, most importantly, there has been no claim of responsibility.’
Is this the news organisation which boasts of having more journalists than any organisation outside of China, that has billions of pounds to invest in indepth, accurate journalism but gets it badly wrong and then attacks the auld enemy…the Bloggers?
Guess the BBC’s new Director of News, James Harding, was right when he said the BBC doesn’t do investigative journalism.
No s**t Sherlock!
A final quote from the article:
“It’s been a kind of a media literacy seminar – people are learning to be less stupid. You don’t want to be the person who names a suspect who turns out not to be right.”
He added: “I doubt that when we write the history of this event that the intelligence services will be thanking social media over this.”
Won’t be sending the BBC a bunch of flowers either I’m guessing.
The reporting of the Boston bombing is becoming more comical by the day, but not in a good way, the lies, deceit and cover up of Saudi Arabian terrorists.
they are being ironic? …
“crowd-sourced investigations” – there is no organisation more sheep like than the bbc, , lazier in it journalism, scant regard for both facts and truth, overtly political/politically correct when it should not be, a protector of the indefensible – hmm stones and glasshouses come to mind.
mind you, what do you expect dave, from a team like “ironsides” n lard .. sheesh!, they even have an inside man in Boston now ………..yep! fatty nolan,
(shakes head) lord save us.
hey talking of “sheeplike” … this could be a header for al bbc tomorrow 😀
http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/new-york-times-sympathy-for-the-devil/
“Internet detectives” with a £4bn/year budget.
They left that £ tidbit out.
It’s the cuts you know. You can’t get the staff these days.
Yes indeed, people like Humph and Evan D, slumming it on a few hundred thousand a year.
Looks like some of this internet jury went to the Evan Davis School of Analysis. See previous thread and #88 comments:
“This was Evan Davis, on Tuesday morning, just hours after the blasts [listen again: 2:18:50]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01rvpg3
Save for a few ifs, buts and maybe’s, he’s looked at all of the evidence and concludes that in his opinion, this looks more like ‘domestic terrorism’.”
Then see my entry on previous thread::
Evan Davis has much form, going way back. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/evandavis/2007/05/tony_blairs_economic_legacy_1.html
Only on the BBC can you expect to keep such high profile employment in such an analytic world with getting so such wrong.
Evan davis said in the above link:
“Blairs Economic Legacty – In the 1997 election campaign, the Conservatives ran under a slogan “Britain is Booming. Don’t Let Labour Blow it.”……..It hasn’t happened that way.”
Oh really Evan Davis? Where did you study economics?
I believe he studied at Chad Valley University………
The same BBC that mistakenly claimed an arrest had been made on Wednesday:
The same BBC that mistakenly linked the Aryan Brotherhood to the murders of three justice officials in Texas (not so).
He added: “I doubt that when we write the history of this event that the intelligence services will be thanking social media over this.”
Shouldn’t that say ““I doubt that when we re-write the history of this event…”
This may be the least self-aware blogpost on the Internet ever.
Rather depends on how it is read?
Or from what perspective,
Liberal, wishy-washy bedwetting left wing perspective, or normality.
Stunned
Explain your ‘thinking’…..You can’t can you…it’s the usual random , meaningless attempt at a putdown.
Keep digging Alan
Don’t worry, your grave will be ready soon.
“Keep digging Alan”
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These one-liners are really masterpieces of interpretation.
Digging as suggested in matters of journalism of course is no bad thing.
Raising topics for discussion that are being suppressed seems quite responsible.
Desperately trying not to mention certain things, or use lazy drive-by snarks to suggest they should not be raised is nothing but reprehensible.
History will judge which digging serves who better.
The media now appears keen to separate religion from nationalism from ideology from sheer inadequacy to an extraordinary degree of stretch.
What was done, to whom, in what way, surely is worth looking at to guard against repeats. Ignoring cultural influences with a history of complementing aspects seems astoundingly uncurious by some at best.
‘What was done, to whom, in what way, surely is worth looking at to guard against repeats’
Indeed. Thats why I welcome the BBC’s coverage.
On the other hand I don’t think ‘Islam’ as an explanation covers it all. By that reasoning, there’d be a billon bombs every day. Now that is lazy.
Some reality for INBBC:-
“Terrifying cache of explosives found at home of Boston bombing suspects as thousands of police officers scour locked-down city for fugitive after his elder brother accomplice dies in gun battle”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311443/Boston-bomb-suspect-Dzokhar-Tsarnaev-hunted-SWAT-teams-police-kill-boxer-brother-Tamerlan-running-gun-battle.html#ixzz2QwtH3vcs
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I notice under the BBC webpage with the headline Huge manhunt for Boston bomb suspect
they have the following subheadings which lead to different articles:
Latest: Live: Suspects: Maps: Video: In pictures: Muslim fears
In case this might be missed by anybody not expecting to find an article about Muslim fears under this headline they also have these articles:
Boston Muslims react to marathon bombs
Boston bombings: Muslim Americans await bomber’s ID
What is most revealing about the BBC coverage is they haven’t thought about a particular aspect from the standpoint of our society:
What about the fears of residents who don’t know if there will be further attacks if as shown it is caused by Islamic radicals?
Why no articles or reference to this?
Because no one else matters…
Until it comes to paying yer telly tax.
Muslims fear backlash from tomorrow’s bombing.
This week may well be a watershed in the liberal media’s relationship with its audience, what with the no reporting of Kermit Gosnell then the Boston fiasco, no one can plausibly deny the naked bias anymore.
In some ways it has been worst of all for the BBC in particular, in addition to the above lowlights, they have also had the Sweeney affair and the dreadful Thatcher coverage to contend with. A bad week for them, but many more such weeks to come, I think, since the BBC is obviously in a downward spiral and now rely solely on gimmicks and the fading memory of their past glory to keep the viewers watching.
The BBC still has its guaranteed income stream, though, and most people are too timid and misinformed to stop paying it.
True, but its influence is waning. Its credibility is shot to pieces. Of course it will continue to act as though nothing has happened or engage in diversionary tactics like the one in this thread, it will probably limp on through another renewal of the license fee, but its glory days are over.
Young people are growing up getting their information and entertainment from other sources such as the internet and will eventually start to ask “why are they required to pay for something I barely watch?” I do not think TV is central to a young person’s life anymore.
I daresay that the young will continue to watch the BBC but there is nothing about it (apart from lack of ads) to distinguish it as public service broadcasting. Most young people I know prefer to watch American imports already. The reason why BBC3 was created is to try to keep the young on board, but the channel is so feeble and derivative that it is more an embarrassment than an advantage. Young people are not stupid, they know quality.
Which is why they are actively perusing licensing and policing of the internet.
Look at their startling comments on internet “detectives” asking for regulation because some blog sites got it wrong…unlike the Beeb of course, they were bang on the money every time…”White…er….right-wing…NRA…um….Amish…eeee….home-grown…er….tea party…Isla….oh, no, not them, not a chance….”
Yes, the monopolistic BBC hate any competition, whether from ITV, the Murdoch publications or the i-net. They are terrified that the truth will escape their censorship on an unregulated i-net. In “Any Questions?” on Radio 4 they managed to cook up a discussion on how reaction to the Boston bombings had been distorted by bloggers and stories spreading rapidly. It reminds me of the Catholic Church’s fears about the arrival of printing in the late 1400s and loss of control of the narrative.
Hence them throwing so much of their (our) money at BBC online, it’s to drown out anything else, they swamp the narrative, strangulate the discussion.
If you want to find anything with a shred of balance, you gotta scroll past all the liberal shit, and head a few pages on.
I`d agree.
The BBC are so knee deep in their own craven fantasies now, that they genuinely don`t know truth from fiction anymore.
Nor can they understand that nobody believes a word that they say-their coverage of the Queens Jubilee, Margaret Thatchers death, the killing of Bin Laden etc has been a disgrace and the white vans out there will take their revenge one day.
The BBC wish it, tell us all to believe it-but only the Guardian and public sector labour schmucks will parrot it as truth.
Balls..Goebbels….all the same these days.
Their fantasies that the gun lobby under Palins direction did this was a disgrace-it won`t be forgotten.
The bBC does damage limitation for Islam
Backlash fears US Islamic community hopes bomber is not Muslim
As the investigation into who was behind the Boston bombings goes on, Muslim communities are braced for a backlash should the perpetrator share their faith.The day after the Boston Marathon bombings, Yusef was treated differently.The 10-year-old went to his Ohio school and was surprised by a question from a classmate, according to his family. While the class was discussing the explosions, the classmate is said to have asked: “Does that mean Yusef is going to blow up the school?” A confused Yusef, whose family asked that his last name not be used, says he repeated the classmate’s question. But the teacher apparently only heard Yusef’s end of the exchange, a misunderstanding that resulted in detention and having his locker searched.This story is exactly what Anum Hussain feared when she first heard of the bombings. Hussain is a regional director with the Muslim Inter-Scholastic Tournament and teaches Muslim youth about bullying. Having grown up in the aftermath of 9/11, Hussain worries that this generation of Muslims could be bullied because of the blasts – especially if the person responsible is a Muslim.
Muslims blow up WTC, murder thousands bbC headlines…
Fear closes Islamic schools
What would the backlash be if a christian in a majority muslim country set of a bomb?
Saudi leaders fear Muslim backlash
Extra police to protect Muslims
NI’s Muslims fearful after US attacks
Only the bbC can make those who wish everbody ill as the real victims.
Muslims blow up London, bBC headlines:
Bombers’ community fears backlash
Kashmiri anxiety over UK attacks
Muslims fear retaliation attacks
Remind me again just who will be having sleepless nights here?
Pounce, a thought strikes me – just how many recoded incidents of islamophobic violence have there been in the Western World? I can think of one horrible incident after 9/11 when a Sikh was dragged behind by a pickup and the perps were sent down for murder, but that is the only one I can think of.
So why does the BBC constantly talk up this threat when there is little evidence to support the fears. I mean if there had been a massive pogrom against islamic people – like say the mass deportation of Greeks (who had resided there fro 2,250 years) from Anatolia and the Smyrna massacre of 1922 – then there might be some grounds for concern.
Does the BBC really believe that a simmering genocidal mania lurks just millimeters beneath the skin of the US (or indeed British) population – because that is the way it appears?
Does the BBC really believe that a simmering genocidal mania lurks just millimeters beneath the skin of the US (or indeed British) population – because that is the way it appears?
I think there’s 2 elements to this.
First it’s necessary to understand that people tend to believe that others think the way they do, and relate to others on how they know themselves to be. So for example a liar will believe that everybody else are liars.
The BBC are terrified of Islam and believe this is shared by all. They cover it up, even to themselves, by pretending to be obeisant, but it is the inner truth that prevails. So they suspect if everybody feels the same, but are not as ‘high minded’ as the BBC deceives itself that it is, then they must want to attack this threat.
The second is that they want to be seen as friends and protectors of Islam, which is part of the same fearful dynamic.
SCUM = SUCCUMB
or …
1. They are liberals. Liberals see any distrust of Islam as racism. They therefore cannot bring themselves to be critical because that’s just raaaaaacist.
2. They are excusing Islamo-fascism because they hate all things British and your enemy’s enemy etc … q.v. The sinking of the Belgrano.
3. The are using agitprop to frighten the average peaceful Muslim into ‘defending’ themselves. Divide and conquer. Whilst they are worrying about you and you are worrying about them who is watching the Normans trough at all of our expence?
Remember to them the average English man is an EDL football thug who is one step from stabbing the next dark-skinned person they see.
They hate and fear you, you see.
Well, Fox has mentioned that Boston Bomber the Elder – Tamerlan – shares a name with the self-styled Sword of Islam, Timur/Tamerlane, who was fond of massacaring tens and hundreds of thousands of people at a time and piling heads up into massive towers. A big fan of terror, was Tamerlane. Not sure that I’ve heard this yet on the BBC.
Now it may seem trivial, but let’s imagine this was a “right-wing” extremist who happened to be called Hitler, or had even been named “Timothy McVeigh” after the Oklahoma bomber? Can you imagine the BBC letting that go without comment?? They’d be all over that like a rash. Tamerlan? Not so much.
Muslims blow up Madrid, BBC headlines:
Prayers and fears of Madrid’s Muslims
UK Muslims urged to fight terror
“We’re seeing a backlash against Muslims but Muslims must not lose heart.”
and
The MCB letter was drawn up as part of the council’s long-term plan to combat “Islamophobia”.
and the best one from this sop of an article about a foiled bomb attack in London days after the Madrid attack:
Mr Bunglawala said some media coverage of Tuesday’s arrests were unfair. In particular, he said one headline – “Islamic bomb attack foiled” – was offensive to ordinary Muslims.
Only from the Allah loving bBC:
The teenage suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings is in custody after being found hiding in a boat in a suburban homeowner’s backyard.Police said they exchanged gunfire with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, after cornering him in Watertown, near Boston. He had escaped on foot early on Friday, apparently wounded, after a police shootout that claimed the life of his elder brother, an alleged accomplice.
Alleged accomplice bBC? He fought the law and the law won.
Remember the “backlash” on mohammedans after the Toulouse attack? Yeah, me neither but the al-beeb was right on pattern.
Muslims try to blow up Glasgow Airport, bbC headlines:
Reflecting on Glasgow’s terror attack
Can somebody please explain to me why after each and every terrorist attack in the West, the bBC bends over 5 times a day in which to try and force the viewpoint over that Islam i snot only a religion of peace, but that all its followers are victims of the nasty people who are shedding tears for their loved ones who have been murdered for Allah.
Yet the same bBC, has no problem defending Islamic hoards across the globe when they decide to vent a little anger becasue somebody burnt a book, drew a picture or even if a country has decided to strike back at the idiots who launch hundreds of missiles against them. Then retribution is acceptable.
The bbC, defending the Islamic mantra that Non Muslims must be killed for allah
what should really worry us in the uk is this, these terrorists did not dress like that fascist muslim extremist anjem choudary and his goons with there long beards and dresses who openly preach hatred and murder in the uk,they are open with there hatred of the west,we all know that,these terrorists in boston hid there hatred for the west and blended in,how many millions of muslims in the uk who dress like westerners hold the same hatred and despise the west like the boston muslim bombers,that should worry us all.
it all comes down to this comrades,,,,its islam and muslims again,,,when is it never,,,no doubt the left wing pinko apologists for radical extreme islam will crawl back under the stones now because the boston bombers were not blue eyed blonde white males from some right wing militia…that the left hate that,,they was praying it was not muslims who killed them children and innocent people in boston,,,but here is the thing you left wing creeps,,answer me this….why are these terrorists never christians,sikhs,hindus,buddhists.or jews,,,,why is that,,,can you explain that,,,why is it always muslims doing this,,,well you have no answer do you,,,but i have,,,,the botten line is this,,,the koran is behind all this muslim and islamic terrorism…simple as that,,,and i will go one step further here,,,the book called the koran to the muslim world is no different to the book called mein kampf was to the follwers of adolf hitler. and the nazis……………
BBC on religions:
“Many modern writers claim that the main meaning of Jihad is the internal spiritual struggle, and this is accepted by many Muslims.”
from here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/beliefs/jihad_1.shtml
Whereas, “Mein Kampf” means …………..
Oh, hang on a minute…….
just listened to bbc news and there reporter in boston jane little waffling on about why these poor muslim boys turned into terrorists.the usual politacaly correct garbage you expect from the bbc employees,i thought i would type jane littles name into google to find out her backgound, heh presto,she not only works for the bbc,but she is a journalist for the ultra left guardian newspaper as well.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/459253/20130419/feiz-mohammad-tamerlan-tsarnaev-boston-marathon.htm….seems like a nice enough chap if your a liberall
Gordon Corera: “the question of why they did it remains elusive”.
Thanks to the internet I know why they did it. I know why they all do it. And they were all nice, well adjusted boys.
Just switched on Sky to learn this is just the next wave of domestic terrorism that the US needs to come to terms with.
Yes these nice young men had a bit of history, but the media appear very keen to take the lead certain politicians are now alluding to, and when questions get asked the answers provided better conform to that lead.
Unsure any mass media can be relied upon now to ask, much less answer key questions any more as they either have been leant on or simply know where they are meant to be.
Education and information it is not.
One can only wonder how the broadcast entity that has perfected propaganda backed by censorship will respond to the call to find what is wanted and suppress anything that does not.
Obama learning from the BBC:
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/19/obama-we-cant-rush-to-judgement-about-these-individuals-or-groups-of-people-gets-name-of-one-of-victims-wrong/
“we can’t rush to judgement about these individuals or groups of people”. Translation: don’t look behind the curtain at the Islamic radical connection.
I wonder if Obama is disappointed that he was caught locally.
This will limit the number of mosques he will authorise to build to commemorate another Islamic victory.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 30 Days
So said the guy who blamed Benghazi over a movie and couldn’t help to insert racist overtones in the Trayvon Martin affair before any police investigation.
The self-righteous petulance and hypocrisy is nauseating in this guy.
BBC going in to overdrive (as in Newsnight last night) to say these boys were untypical and American-educated and no lessons can be drawn from their actions.
No terror has ever left the shores of Chechnya (except perhaps into Russia) accumulated nervous experts rush to advise interviewers. It must be therefore be a personal flaw.
I happened to be up before 6am on 19th April and I was surfing the news channels ,as you do.I chanced upon CNN whose coverage of the Boston bombers chase was superb.I kept checking the BBC and they had no news about it till after 8am.CNN showed what a professional outfit could do-the BBC are a pathetic expensive disgrace.
The BBC have proved since then that they are nothing but a propaganda channel -time to break it up and sell it off.
Strange, because I watched from about 23:00-02:00 and the coverage was live and pretty much uniterrupted.
The BBC don’t do Investigative Journalism? No they certainly don’t, they only do Inventive Journalism.
BBC Radio 4’s Carolyn Quinn interviews Bennie Thompson (D), ranking member of the House Committee on Homeland Security, on the day after the Boston bombings. Speculation is all about the KKK, Aryan nation, neo-Nazis etc. (R4 PM, 16.4.2013)
You say tomato I say tomato.
Can’t just blame the droids as all our news agencies were at it (well all three of them).
Did we really need journos and presenters to demonstrate their ‘familiarity’ with US gangsta prison vernacular by using the term ‘lockdown’ repeatedly.
I mean, wouldn’t ‘curfew’ have served just as well.