An investigation into a child sex ring in Telford has concluded.
Around 100 white girls were abused by British Pakistani ‘heritage’ men…Muslims.
The BBC tells us that: (11:27:30)
‘It’s a case that has echoes of Rochdale and Derby and other cases…the offenders all being British Pakistani Muslims and the vicitms generally being white British teens.
No one is suggesting this is something endemic within that community…but obviously one can’t deny that these are similar cases and I know people within the Muslim community saying that they’ve got to deal with it, they have got to stand up and recognise that within that community there has been a problem.’
Later on Shelagh Fogarty’s show (13:09) Eleanor Oldroyd deals with the same question and states that:
‘Clearly there is a cultural implication to all of this.’
So it seems that even the utlra PC BBC has been forced to recognise a link between religion/culture and the abuse….most especially the choice of victim.
The Police attitude is interesting, and not unusual…they deny that there is any racial element at all to this case.
In such cases as those involving sex crimes committed by Muslims (e.g Derby, Oxford, Rochdale, Telford, etc, etc), a typical journalistic sequence of events for Beeboids is:
Firstly: use only the noun’ men’ for as long as possible;
Secondly: after any conviction of such ‘men,’ defer to the ‘Muslim Community’ for the main, and possibly only soundbite;
Thirdly: largely ignore the plight of the (usually) white female victims.
….and depict them as slags, ie “known to social services”.
The focus on the victims in these cases is disgusting.
Can you imagine if ethnic British men were targetting Mohammedan or black girls – the girls would all be future doctors , nurses or ‘talented’ Olympic athletes!
There is never ANY suggestion that the victims of black gangstas are ‘vulnerable’ or come from chaotic backgrounds, although most clearly do, as the absence of a parent (or two in some cases) makes obvious to those who bother to read between the lines.
Funny how the ever ubiquitous “asian” transformed into “men”. The al-beeb employees must be big fans of Newspeak.
“I know people within the Muslim community are saying that they’ve got to deal with it”
all sounds like a bit of … well, we ll get our erm “scholars”, we ll all sit down, and check with the koran etc etc. … WHAT! … is this? pandering to their deluded supremacism?
Therein lies the problem … they are NOT to be allowed to dictate, do you let caged paedophiles decide what they want to do? … mass murderers, have a choice of their sentence? … absurd
It is to be ensured that their serious issue, is eradicated, out of their hands, not to be entrusted to the same cult that has covered it up for years in the first place, it IS endemic
it IS and it is an islamic issue.
The police … grr … don t get me started.
Looks like the police have been so used to “backhanders” after all these years, to look the other way, that they can t see a GENUINE “racist” element of crime, if it is on a mainly white community.
No one is suggesting this is something endemic within that community…
Wrong again, bBBC! Everyone outside the leftie pc-bubble is suggesting exactly that.
“Everyone outside the leftie pc-bubble is suggesting exactly that…”
And if they’re not saying it, some part of them is at least able to join the dots and, in BBC terms, think the unthinkable.
My own conclusion is that the BBC’s p*sspoor ‘reporting’ on these cases (basically obfuscating the truth because the truth won’t fit their chosen narrative) is the sum result of ‘groupthink’ at The Corporation.
Time and again, in this and in issues such as CAGW (so called ‘man-made climate change’), the BBC has become too deeply entrenched in own deeply political, culturally indoctrinaire outlook.
‘Truth in journalism’? Hmmm. I think many ordinary people would beg very much to differ – not that this will ever matter to the self-congratulatory, smug, sneering common purpose trolls at the BBC.
It is not endemic, it is pathologic.
They tried to imprison Nick Griffin for exposing Muslim rape gangs.
I aint a fan of the BNP, but if Griffin says something about Muslims in the UK, folk would be well advised to listen to him, and give him the benefit of the doubt…maybe investigate his claims, before clamping the irons on him.
no bbc speak allowed.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/05/uk-yet-another-muslim-sex-slavery-gang-jailed.html
Mo’ count: 3
Hmm, I suspect you are a fan of the BNP. A bit of ‘look, no handsism’ I see here.
I wonder what we should make of his Holocaust denial claims.
notice how when muslims see themselves as victims of injustice they will always bring up the fact they are muslim and victims of islamaphobia,the police will always say there is a racial motive when muslims are victims of crime,now this case in telford where muslim men targerted white children for sex baffles me,there is no mention they was muslim men and a complete denial of a racial motive by the police,that has become the standard politacaly correct responce now from the police and the bbc,the bottem line is these muslim paedophile rings all over england only target white girls for the jihadiphilia,why the police and the bbc always try to cover that up just makes them look like they are protecting these paedophiles from the muslim islamic community.
Jihadiphilia, what an excellent term. It covers every element of this behaviour pattern by the mohamedans. My only quibble, and it’s not with you, is that muslim isn’t a race. I think the police are correct in this instance and should correct their terminology when the shoe is on the other foot.
Whilst the fact that the males committing the offences are Muslims does not necessarily make the offences racial the fact that they are Asian Males specifically selecting vulnerable young white girls and only young white girls most certainly does make the crimes racial.
Of course, they could use the weasel excuse that the “motive” for the crime was sexual abuse and that specifically selecting only white girls was not the “motive” and the “motive” itself was not racial.
I hope I make myself clear but what I am getting at is that a game of carefully worded avoidance is being played and a game the BBC and the authorities have become expert at to avoid admitting what is obvious to anybody with even half a brain.
What makes this case even worse, if such a degree of severity can be made in such cases, is that the girls in this case would appear to have been trafficked round Britain to be bought and sold, for a pittance, as Sex Slaves on a wide basis meaning the vast majority of the abusers will never be traced, let alone prosecuted. I can’t even begin to imagine the trauma the girls suffered during the abuse or the damage they will continue to suffer for the rest of their lives.
I wonder if the police have been as diligent in collecting DNA samples relating to “the vast majority of the abusers will never be traced” as they have been in collecting it from non-violent ‘wasters of police time’.
[sarc]I’m sure the BBC will be right on it [/sarc], investigating the many (hundreds? thousands?) who these vile criminals would have confidently done business with, exchanging money for the use of sex-slaves. And all of them with no fear of the police.
Or indeed from the killers of St Stephen Lawrence.
Can these girls hope to see justice?
Anyone with an ounce of brain capacity knows that it is the medieval and unwelcome Islamic traditions that have been the major factor behind these wide-scale revolting abuses. I’m sorry but wherever Islam goes, it causes endless problems.
Could the bbc just remind us of those ghastly Indian Sikh and Hindu, Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Burmese and etc child abusing Asian ‘communities’ that are ravaging not only our country but every Western country where they’ve been allowed to invade? No? Well, that’s because they don’t exist. The only (and I use it in the most general sense) people who commit these disgusting (in normal, not socialist therefore, eyes) and heinous crimes are muslims. If the bbc wasn’t so contaminated with the socialist/communist virus that seems to infect far too many people these days, they would have been educating our nation and supporting those who wish to bring the perpetrators to justice and evicting, well, just about all muslims from our country.
Alex, stop apologizing for pointing out the obvious !
“The Police attitude is interesting, and not unusual…they deny that there is any racial element at all to this case”!
That’s as maybe–but it is in fact much much worse–these children were abused because in the eye’s of their tormentors they were worthless,”apes and pigs”,infidels,kaffur,less than human—the spoils of war.
rochdale,keighley.preston.blackpool.derby.rotherham,blackburn,bradford.telford.london,luton,etc etc,what is the link,to hide the truth you must tell a lie,there is no racial motive according to the police.ummm really.hide the thruth
They are areas of heavy Labour support?
… helped by postal voting fraud, no doubt.
Jihadiphiles it is then…with Islamonausea another word I`ll be owning by way of explanation of the reflex hijabbing of anything unsavoury or pervy amidst these “British Heritage Men of Muhammed”.
Wonder it Jim Al Savili might have caught the Islamoperv disease by contagion or by living too close to the Leeds-Dewsbury-Bradford triangle of Muslim lovelieness?
Maybe HE was a victim too….Jim an honorary Muslim then?
I was surprised to hear earlier in the day on Radio 2 news that men of “Pakistani origin” had been involved.
Normal service was resumed later when they became “Shropshire men”.
Oo-arrrrr!
A whole new meaning to “A Shropshire Lad”.
Some comfort that even the BBC has now been forced to report in a more realistic and honest about this epidermic of organised abuse. Perhaps they realised how silly they made themselves look.
Unfortunately the police are sticking to the politically correct and thoroughly dishonest notion that these crimes have no racial motive. At least they now seem to be tackling the problem, after years of both the police and social services ignoring the abuse despite widespread reporting. A legacy of MacPherson?
Credit to The Times who have led in the reporting of this issue. Also worth noting: the awkward truth is that the police took no action until the EDL started organising protests.
“the awkward truth is that the police took no action until the EDL started organising protests”
Worth repeating.
And that needs to be known and remembered by as many British people as possible.
It could be that the EDL were not the reason that so many different police
forcesservices were all stung into action around the same time;it could be all those different police services had completely different motivators… it is possible. but would be an incredible coincidence.
And the light of Truth the EDL have shone on this national issue is certainly not welcomed by Far-Left political factions like the UAF, nor by Islamic activists and ideologues who have shown by their threats and violence what they promise for our future.
For the BBC the honest factual Truth only seems to be Far-Right simply because the BBC is Far-Left, as shown at a basic level by it’s recruitment through the Guardian Far-Left mouthpiece.
The Police as an orginisation very wisely do not say what they think in these type of cases. Even though the court has decided guilt of these men the Police will still tried in the court of the bbc and shami should one word of percieved racism be uttered. For the Police to say what the rest of the free thinking world is saying, that this was obviously muslim men thinking that all females are there to do what they wish with, and that non muslims are even below that would be impossible. To balance this out and show how the Police are between a rock and a hard place, just read littlejohn or the daily mail occasionally.
men were
A Shropshire Lad – A E Housman: 1887, a poem for Queen Victoria’s Jubilee. Times have changed a bit
“It dawns in Asia, tombstones show
And Shropshire names are read.”
……….
“Get the sons your father got
and God will save the Queen”
oh the irony
1887
From Clee to heaven the beacon burns,
The shires have seen it plain,
From north and south the sign returns
And beacons burn again.
Look left, look right, the hills are bright,
The dales are light between,
Because ’tis fifty years to-night
That God has saved the Queen.
Now, when the flame they watch not towers
About the soil they trod,
Lads, we’ll remember friends of ours
Who shared the work with God.
To skies that knit their heartstrings right,
To fields that bred them brave,
The saviours come not home to-night:
Themselves they could not save.
It dawns in Asia, tombstones show
And Shropshire names are read;
And the Nile spills his overflow
Beside the Severn’s dead.
We pledge in peace by farm and town
The Queen they served in war,
And fire the beacons up and down
The land they perished for.
“God Save the Queen” we living sing,
From height to height ’tis heard;
And with the rest your voices ring,
Lads of the Fifty-third.
Oh, God will save her, fear you not:
Be you the men you’ve been,
Get you the sons your fathers got,
And God will Save the Queen.
It dawns in Asia, tombstones show
Naughty.
The BBC had no problem yesterday reporting on the jailing of a C of E priest and church organist for child abuse in Sussex. There were multiple references to their religion throughout the news reports.
Well, if it’s an actual ordained cleric, they kind of have to mention the religion. The question is, did they connect the religion to the abusive acts, or make sure to tell you there was no connection, and that it’s not a widespread problem amongst CofE church organists? I hope they pointed out that it’s just a Tiny Minority™.
It’s just their way of trying to equalise the religions when it comes to abuse. They’d run the historical RC priest abuse stories to exhaustion, so they’re now starting on all other faiths to convince the public that ALL religion is inherently linked to abuse – except the Beeb’s secular PC creed !
Give or take the odd Savile, Hall, et alii.
There’s no way in hell the BBC will try to convince anyone that a brand of Islam is inherently linked to abuse.
The connection was implicit in that he was referred to as a CofE vicar several times, his church where the abuse too place named and throughout he was named as Father Wilkie Denfold.
“The Police attitude is interesting, and not unusual…they deny that there is any racial element at all to this case.”
Interesting or sickening? Because everyone of them will know that if they dare say anything they risk their careers & their pensions. This is the reason people are voing UKIP and the blinkered idiots in London haven’t got a clue just how angry it’s making people. Almost every day I hear people talking openly of the need for revolution and a dictatorship – a strong man to put the country right again.
I wonder though how many people here are aware that the leader of Rochdale council was being sued for suggesting that care homes in Rochdale were not safe because of the threat from predatory Asian males in the town?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10010572/Rochdale-care-homes-to-sue-council-leader-for-suggesting-children-not-safe-after-grooming-scandal.html
I seem to recall that Nick Griffin of the BNP tried to expose this sort of abuse some years ago. The Beeb secretly recorded his “deeply shocking” remarks and passed them on to the police. He could have got seven years for inciting racial hatred for what turned out to be telling the truth.
I wonder if the BBC or useless plod will offer an apology?
Anne Cryer, MP for Keighley, also cottoned on to what was going on but, being a Labour MP, this was OK.
You would have thought that any journalist worthy of the name would have at least have made an effort to establish if there was any truth to Nick Griffin’s claims before involving Plod. Then again, I suppose, we are talking about the BBC.
Does Dez have anything to add to this thread, I wonder?
Shropshire Islamic Jihad Sex Slave Gang convictions:
– a clear case of an Islam Not BBC (INBBC) news online COVER-UP today.
The case has been confined to ‘Shropshire’ subset of West Midlands INBBC online news presentation.
Which specific Beeboids are responsible for that?
Yes, I also noticed that it had been relegated to the Shropshire pages of Freeview teletext . The main UK news page did, however, cover a story that pork had been found in halal burgers served at schools in Leicester. Nice to see that they have their priorities in the right order.
I was out most of yesterday, did not hear or see the news.
As the BBC has scrubbed it from major news coverage, I would have remained ignorant of this major story – which links to so many other stories – if I had not seen it raised here
About the sickest form of news management possible ?
So it seems that even the utlra PC BBC has been forced to recognise a link between religion/culture and the abuse….most especially the choice of victim.
The Police attitude is interesting, and not unusual…they deny that there is any racial element at all to this case.
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The police have yet to receive the memo. Times are a changin. .
Seven “men”:
Gary Glitter, Jonathan King, Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Jim Davidson, Max Clifford and Jimmy Tarbuck.
What do they have in common? WHITE – BRITISH – CHRISTIANS.
When are people on this blog going to recognise a link between religion/culture and sexual abuse?
Or do different rules apply when it’s your own religion/culture?
What a nasty piece of work you are Dez with a second ‘z’ – an unashamed apologists for the cringing, pathetic, terrified BBC. You list just seven men, all of whom have been named and shamed; and still, your beloved BBC cannot bring themselves to name the culture that links a nation wide disgusting practice against white teenagers or describe it for what it is – a blatant racist attack.
They, like you, are terrified cowards, falling over themselves to distance themselves from the truth; too scared to face up to the facts. The nation wide attack on white girls is being perpetuated by Islamic men – say it after me Dez with a second ‘z’; Islamic men, not Shropshire men, or Bradford men, or Keighley men, or Rochdale men – but Islamic men; and they are doing it because people like you are too frightened to call them on it.
Hang your head in shame.
So the BBC as usual gives an objective report into the disgusting activities of perverts and still they complain.
Two very white music schools are at the centre of long term abuse allegations. Does that mean every music teacher in the UK is a paedo? Using the logic of this blog, yes. They are all perverts just like all muslims are perverts because of the actions of a few. And indeed everyone in the BBC because of Saville.
The lack of logic is breathtaking. But fun to read!
I thought the BBC coverage of the Telford sexual abusers was fair, at least when I listened to Radio 4’s ‘PM’ and 6 o’clock news on Friday. They didn’t avoid the link with Pakistani Muslims, as they have in the past.
What makes this abuse different from the Manchester music schools cases is that it appears to be a planned operation on an almost industrial scale, alongside which S Hall’s activities look like a cottage industry.
Show me where anyone has said that all Muslims are perverts.
Of course no-one has, and you are arguing against a point that no-one has made.
Pathetic
A few points:
1) There’s no evidence that they chose their victims by race.
2) It was contrary to the teaching of “their” religion. It would be difficult to stretch the teching of Jesus to justify this.
3) Seven men out of how many millions?
4) The fact that it was common knowledge within the BBC, of all places, justifies the existence of this site.
‘Different rules’ clearly apply at the BBC. When the perpetrators are Roman Catholic priests that little snippet of info can be guaranteed a prominent slot, most often in the headline.
You have destroyed your own argument.
Knowledge of ALL of these names and crimes is in the public domain. Non of them are anonymous, all, dead or alive, are facing investigation and, were applicable, trial.
One might be tempted to think that reporting of their crimes, or the accusations made against them, has been so thorough on the BBC because the are, to quote: “White – British – Christians”.
I am sure you already understand this (and are just being two-faced in what you posted) but the difference is that the men you listed didn’t abuse children because of their religion; if anything, all of them would have been aware that what they were doing was directly against the teachings of christianity.
The contrast with the muslims gangs that are ‘grooming’ children (I don’t understand why the media uses this euphemism, they should call it for what it is, child abuse) is that
i. they are deliberately targeting non-muslim girls (I’m not aware of any instances where such abuse was carried out on a muslim girl, and I’m certain that if there were any such instances, the BBC would have gone out of their way to use it to show that these crimes are definitely not islamic)
ii. they believe that their religion actually sanctions such abuse, as they look upon non-muslim, westernised girls as being sluts who deserve what they do to them
I’m also sick of the ‘asian’ label; these gangs are comprised of pakistani muslims, and thats the label that should be used by all media (and the police) when referring to these crimes.
Seven “men”:
What do they have in common?
Errr dunno Dezz. Did they all work at the BBC?
Hmm, Gary Glitter, Jonathan King ‘Christians’?
I guess you they used to go to the same church you do?
As for the others, with the exception of Stuart Hall, would you care to remind us of what they’ve been convicted of? Must have passed me by.
I agree but one quibble
King was arrested in November 2000 after a man approached Max Clifford with allegations, originally about other man, was tried in September 2001 and received a seven-year sentence for six offences against five boys aged 14–16 committed between 1983 and 1989
(Wiki)