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A novel analysis for INBBC:-
“The London Beheading: A Betrayal of Britain, Not Islam”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/13353?
Stabbing in PARIS: INBBC’s big deception continues.
INBBC STILL censors out description of Muslim perpetrator in this ‘report’, and instead it invents a threat from the French political ‘right’!:-
“Knife attack on soldier in Paris treated as terrorism”
[Video clip censoring Muslim element, and instead deflecting criticism to political ‘right’]
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22671590
In contrast, ‘Sky News’ is relatively straightforward-
“French Soldier Stabbed In Neck In Paris.
French authorities believe the attack may have been inspired by Drummer Lee Rigby’s murder – but are not formally linking them.”
(inc video clip)
http://news.sky.com/story/1095605/french-soldier-stabbed-in-neck-in-paris
The “religion of peace” does advocate an eye for an eye, it does authorize violence against non believers. It’s just that the wusses in the BBC darn not say so.
Swedish Citizens Take to Streets to Defend Property From Rioting Immigrants
Stop me if you’ve heard this one before:
Faced by another night of terror at the hands of predominantly immigrant rioters, Swedes grown tired of the police’s inability to put an end to the unrest took to the streets Friday night to defend their neighborhoods.
The vigilantes were described as a motley crew of homeowners and concerned citizens, as well as neo-Nazi activists and football hooligans.
In the Stockholm suburb of Tumba the police decided to abandon their earlier non-intervention policy as a large group of police officers rounded up and dispersed a group of vigilantes trying to fend off rioters.
The decision to round up vigilantes while, according to Stockholm Chief of Police Mats Löfving, ”doing as little as possible” to stop rioters, met with a wave of protests in various social media and on the Internet. Representatives of some vigilante groups contacted Fria Tider to give their view of last night’s events.
I blame Swedish foreign policy and nationalism.
First, they came for the Jews. But I was silent because I was not a filthy Zionist. I did, however, speak out when those who came for the Jews complained about discrimination. Not once, not twice, but thrice and more.
Then they came for the Swedes. And I blamed the Swedes. Again.
It’s nice that the British can watch their own possible future playing out right before their eyes, all with the help of your official state broadcaster. The next Beeboid who moans about the US being a racist country and how that’s a major part of the nation’s identity can go to hell.
Oh, dear, apparently the Dept. of Justice went after a New York Times reporter under the Espionage Act. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Now all the Left-wing media mavens are complaining about a chill settling over journalism, and how their sources are clamming up left and right. Ironically, it seems that it wasn’t the totalitarian persecution of the journalists that caused the chill, but the finding out about it.
This is one thing Mark Mardell can’t blame on Republican intransigence.
BBC HYS. What is the second topic we are allowed to comment on today? “Brazil cancels most African debt”. Nice for Africans, good trading ploy by Brazil and no doubt has been the main topic of conversation for most of us all day.
Well the population of London resembles Timbucktu, so I suppose they’d be interested in that news story.
Time for a new open thread surely?
I suspect David Vance has been visited by Special Branch for running an ”anti Islam site.”
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
You might have to scroll down to find it now
The poll site UK polling has an amazing report that only 33% of people believe that “Muslims are compatible with the British way of life”.
I knew there were a lot of people who felt the same way I do but I never realised it was so high!
Do you have a link?
“Woolwich attack: Why did BBC give hate preacher ‘oxygen of publicity’, Home Secretary asks.
“The Home Secretry has questioned why the BBC allowed radical cleric Anjem Choudary to broadcast his ‘disgusting’ views on Newsnight.”
By Steven Swinford.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/10081385/Woolwich-attack-Why-did-BBC-give-hate-preacher-oxygen-of-publicity-Home-Secretary-asks.html
The BBC didn’t quite give the oxygen of publicity to his real views in full, though. They managed to avoid asking him if he thought Mohammedans didn’t need to obey British law.
For INBBC: Not ‘lone wolf’, but a pack of Islamic jihadists.
“Woolwich attack: ‘Lone wolves’ who run with the pack.
The reaction to the murder of Lee Rigby was as predictable as the story of the suspects , writes Andrew Gilligan.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10080864/Woolwich-attack-Lone-wolves-who-run-with-the-pack.html
And the latest news on further arrests, debunks further the INBBC deceivers on Islam:-
“Man, 22, is fourth person arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder over Woolwich attack.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330999/Woolwich-attack-Man-22-fourth-person-arrested-suspicion-conspiracy-commit-murder.html?ico=news^headlines
Wow! That Telegraph article is a ‘must read’, and it isn’t likely to be picked up by the BBC, is it?
Extracts (my emphasis):
“…Mr Ali, it turns out, doesn’t just worship at the Glyndon Community Centre, which is owned by Greenwich Council. In 2010, he was a member of its management committee, during which year it was paid £137,000 by the council.
The local hospital gave Mr Ali a job as its official Muslim chaplain, leading Friday prayers for staff and patients. The Greenwich Islamic Centre said it warned them about using Mr Ali, but was ignored until an undercover reporter filmed him inviting along a guest preacher who praised the Taliban…”
and
“…Several convicted terrorists have been officers of university Islamic societies affiliated to Fosis and have attended its events….”
“…Whitehall has even used Fosis events to recruit “fast-stream” graduates for the Civil Service, until prevented from doing so by Mrs May.”
Fosis is the Federation of Student Islamic Societies, the national organisation representing Muslim students and university Islamic societies
Necessary information for INBBC:-
“How to Debate with the Muslims”
by Ibn Warraq
http://www.islam-watch.org/IbnWarraq/Debate_Muslims.htm
It’s a very poor article. The main criticism coming from Muslims is not that it needs to be read in the original dead language, but that the verses quoted at the are always somehow quoted ‘out of context’.
For instance Surah 8 Vs 12 “8:12 When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. ”
This is the verse which appears to command Jihadists to decapitate enemies and yet there are those who say that this only relates to the battle of Badr.
Who is to say which is correct? Obviously the politicians of all colours will take the path of least resistance and claim that the weakest interpretation is the correct one. This does nothing to address the problem.
since 9/11 there have been an incredible 23,000 terrorist attacks carried out in the name of Islam – that doesn’t include the ones which didn’t succeed, and we know that 25% of British Muslims supported the 7/7 attacks. Although Muslims might claim verses are taken out of context, or they do not mean what the Qur’an appears to say they mean, that is only their interpretation, and it is clearly not the only one. There is NO GENERAL AGREEMENT IN THE INTERPRETATION OF THE QUR’AN.
The claim by people like Cameron that there is no basis in Islam or it was a betrayal of Islam is clearly wrong, and only applies to one interpretation of the text.
LONDON: the REAL threat for BBC-NUJ (which by trade union policy must oppose EDL) and ‘left’ tomorrow:
English Defence League in town –
http://englishdefenceleague.org/edl-news-2/1922-bank-holiday-demonstration-downing-street
And no doubt the following English Defence League activity will be opposed as particularly threatening by INBBC:-
“Sponsor Tommy”
http://englishdefenceleague.org/edl-news-2/1924-sponsor-tommy
“Lilies and lilacs and red and white roses, in tribute to a British Fusilier.”
http://www.newenglishreview.org/bloga.cfm/blog_id/49251/Lilies-and-lilacs-and-red-and-white-roses-in-tribute-to-a-British-Fusilier
This might have been mentioned on another thread but I haven’t found it yet. This morning on the Radio 4, 9.00am news, a reference was made to the fact that during the labour government, a work party was up and funded to look into the radicalisation of Muslims in our society. The news reader then stated that the current coalition government had cut this funding. The way it came across in this editorial (and it was deliberate), was that it was the current governments fault for the death of Lee Rigby in cutting the funding for this work party that in this instance (by inference) if the funding hadn’t been cut then it was unlikely the murder of Lee Rigby wouldn’t have taken place.
I have not subscribed to the BBC for over 6 years now and following this comment on the BBC news this morning, where they were trying to make political gain over the death of a British Soldier, murdered on a street in our capital, I will never, ever again subscribe to this sham which they have the audacity to call the British Broadcasting Corporation.
…typo…*that the murder of Lee Rigby would have taken place.*
Problem for INBBC’s Islamophilic chums at ‘Guardian’:
-reporting of Islamic jihad murder of British soldier ‘encourages Islamophobia’! (see 8th para.)
Expect even more Islamophilic, censored ‘reporting’ in future.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/26/guardian-coverage-of-woolwich-murder?
Co-op Bank.
-So much for Labour’s/BBC-NUJ’s favourite ‘ethical’ bank:-
“Co-operative Bank halts new business lending”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22651713
The BBC website have had Adebolajo’s face staring upwards as its top news image all day. If the intention is to not make him into some kind of hero figure I suspect the BBC has failed. Killers are often shown with less than becoming profiles.
Police Instructions – Bedfordshire Police
THESE ARE INSTRUCTIONS HANDED OUT TO ALL OFFICERS AT C.I.D COURSES AND ANTI-TERRORIST COURSES IN THE BEDFORDSHIRE FORCE/SERVICE
UK’s Bedfordshire Police’s rules regarding terrorists and dangerous criminals
If they’re non-Muslim
• Consider the most opportune time of day to be able to arrest suspects with minimum resistance.
• Apply all necessary force to enter the premises and arrest suspects accordingly.
If they’re Muslim:
• Community leaders must be consulted before raids into Muslim houses.
• Officers must not search occupied bedrooms and bathrooms before dawn.
• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises.
• Cameras and camcorders should not be used in case of capturing women in inappropriate dress.
• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.
• Officers should take their shoes off before raiding a Muslim house.
• The reasons for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.
• Officers must not touch holy books or religious artefacts without permission.
• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.
And the band played ‘believe it if you like’.
The Police Are Now Puppets Of Islam
The following is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.
Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).
As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:
United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).
France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).
Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%
After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%
At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:
Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:
Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:
Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:
Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%
Certainly doesn’t work ! AT around 1% they pose just as much of a danger as at any other percentage!
Australia has had terrible problems with them, and the USA has only just suffered the Boston bombings. Canada recently saw the arrest of several Jihadists planning to derail an express train.
Unless ‘stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:’ includes terrorist atrocities I think we can conclude it’s in the nature of the beast to be violent.
This evening BBC Radio 5 Political Editor John Pienaar chats with Neil Kinnock about Ed Miliband’s chances of becoming our next PM.
Often when the BBC talks to Labour the resulting conversation sounds like an in-house debate. Thoughts turn to tactics and matters of presentation because policy and ideology are agreed.
This was the case again today. It might have been a more balanced conversation had Pienaar discussed Labour’s welfare policy or attitude to welfare reform. But no; all we get is a debate as to the merits of Miliband’s use of language.
It is almost as if the BBC wants to give Labour advice.
This will turn INBBC even more against the Tories (but not against Islamic jihadists):-
“Hate preachers facing a TV ban: And Google could be forced by law to block extremist websites ”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2331361/Hate-preachers-facing-TV-ban-And-Google-forced-law-block-extremist-websites.html
[How would INBBC ‘Newsnight’ fill up its programmes?]
As for ‘Google and Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt’:-
“The role that Google’s young Egyptian executive Wael Gonim played in organizing the demonstrations was reported expansively. His participation in the anti-regime protests – as well as his brief incarceration – was seen as proof that the next Egyptian regime would be indistinguishable from Generation X and Y Americans and Europeans.”
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/caroline-glick/the-muslim-brotherhoods-useful-idiots/
Your website is really interesting!
Well researched articles on critical topics. Keep up the good work!
Bank Holiday Monday, the sun is shining and England are winning a Test Match…..
Nicky Campbell’s Flying Circus wants us to ban ‘Lads’ Mags’
I say this because prior to the ‘balanced’ BBC phone-in debate Campbell quips ‘….Jodie Marsh topless – I’d rather have Rodney Marsh…’
Our Nicky often uses the full resource of his own lame humour to signal to the Beeb-loving Twitterati on which side of the debate it is that his own and his employers* right-on sympathy lies.
[* He is, of course, not an employeee in the PAYE sense of the word]
The Feministas and their lawyer buddies want to shame the supermarkets into a ban on the top shelf publications.
A female supporter of the mags suggests that with this prudery we are in danger of heading back to the 1950s.
Sharia compliant anyone?