‘One lesson well understood in both Stalin’s Russia and Nazi Germany was that propaganda is most effective when it is backed by terror.’…Sir Alan Bullock.
We refuse even to face it, let alone to stop it.
The Met’s head of counter-terrorism said that there had been an increase in reported hate crime in the wake of the Woolwich attack: “Every single incident is horrible but compared with previous times we have had slightly less,” she said.
Dick added that while there had been “horrible” attacks on Mosques there had not been any very serious assaults reported. “It has started to reduce now,”
The BBC however has taken a different view and continue to push the narrative that Fiyaz Mughal of ‘Tell Mama’ put out…that Muslims were under attack….and the attacks are still rising in numbers.
After the Woolwich incident, Tell Mama claimed that there had been a “sustained wave of attacks and intimidation” against British Muslims, with 193 “Islamophobic incidents” reported to it, rising to 212 by last weekend.
Mughal, said he saw “no end to this cycle of violence”, describing it as “unprecedented”. The claims were unquestioningly repeated in the media.
Perhaps the BBC should have asked Saif Rahman about his experiences as an ex-Muslim, an Apostate….how he has been under constant threat and how he has received 139 death threats for leaving Islam.
He’s just one person…and that’s 139 death threats for him alone….Tell Mama claimed it had 212 examples of ‘Islamophobic incidents’ for the whole population of near 3 million Muslims in the UK.
Is the BBC interested in Saif Rahman? No. Are they concerned that one man has received 139 death threats? No.
But then again the good people of the BBC love Yusuf Islam…they love his music and go to his concerts…and yet he is the man who said not only should Salman Rushdie be killed but he would personally execute him if he were in an Islamic country.
Curious now though that the BBC have stopped referring to ‘Tell Mama’….but now refer to Fiyaz Mughal as coming from ‘Faith Matters’:
Fiyaz Mughal, from interfaith group Faith Matters, said Mr Robinson’s condemnation was “hollow”.
Why might the BBC not want to refer to ‘Tell Mama’?
Could it be that the group is now widely discredited?
Mughal’s claims under the guise of ‘Tell Mama’ of a wave of Islamophobic attacks has been debunked…..but even before Woolwich ‘Tell Mama’ was being sidelined by the government for presenting figures and data that ‘didn’t stack up’:
‘However, The Sunday Telegraph has now learned that even before Woolwich, the communities minister, the Liberal Democrat MP Don Foster, called Mr Mughal to a meeting and said that Tell Mama’s grant would not be renewed.
The organisation has received a total of £375,000 from the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) since last year.
“Mr Mughal was giving data on attacks to DCLG which wasn’t stacking up when it was cross-referenced with other reports by Acpo [the Association of Chief Police Officers],” said one source closely involved in counter-extremism.
“He was questioned by DCLG civil servants and lost his temper. He was subsequently called in by Don Foster and told that he would receive no more money.”
A senior Liberal Democrat source confirmed the sequence of events, saying: “There was a bit of a spat. He was called in and told that Acpo had cast doubt on his figures. He was told that he would be closely monitored for the remaining period of the grant and that there would be no more money.” ‘
£375,000…for one year, adding up police statistics…not bad work if you can get it.
Could there be a link between ‘Tell Mama’ having its funding withdrawn and the sudden ‘spike’ it found in Islamophobic attacks after Woolwich? Could it be that it hoped to ‘encourage’ the government to think again and start dishing out the handouts once more?
It’s a shame that the BBC can’t find the time or will to investigate organisations like ‘Tell Mama’ that milk the System dry and far from helping to reduce ‘community tensions’ actually helps raise them by exaggerating any threat levels.
Perhaps the BBC could start with claims that ‘Tell Mama’ had been using its funding to launch legal attacks against people that criticise it as reported in the Telegraph:
Tell Mama has also been using its budget to threaten members of the public with libel actions for criticising it on Twitter.
In mid-May, before Woolwich, one Jewish activist, Ambrosine Chetrit, received a threatening letter from solicitors after she tweeted that “Tell Mama are sitting on Twitter on the EDL hashtag, threatening anyone and everyone whose comments they do not like about Islam”.
Tell Mama also objected to a tweet in which Ms Chetrit said it was “trying to close down pro-Israel [Twitter] accounts daily”.
Other recipients of legal threats at the same time include Atma Singh, a former race adviser to the then Labour mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, who received a legal letter from Tell Mama after tweeting that it “gives a platform to Islamists”.
Tell Mama did not claim that either of these individuals was racist or anti-Muslim. But it said their tweets were false and “defamatory” of Mr Mughal, had “damaged” his reputation, causing him “distress and embarrassment”, and demanded immediate apologies and damages. Up to four other people are believed to have received similar threats.
The letters were written by Farooq Bajwa, a solicitor who has acted for a number of Islamists and Islamist sympathisers, including the Palestinian radical leader Raed Salah and the Respect MP George Galloway.
The letters to Mr Singh and Ms Chetrit were sent to their private home addresses, neither of which are in the public domain. Ms Chetrit’s lawyer, Mark Lewis, who has acted for many phone-hacking victims, has reported Mr Bajwa and Tell Mama to the police after they refused to say how they obtained the information.
“I have been instructed to resist the claim,” said Mr Lewis. “It has no merit. I have not had any response as to how my client’s name and address were obtained.”
Mr Singh said: “I find it absurd that someone can threaten people on this kind of basis and use libel in this political way. This is nothing to do with Islamophobia – they are just trying to shut down debate.”
Ms Chetrit said: “It is very worrying and scary. All the people who have been threatened by Tell Mama are pro-Israeli.”
Charles Moore in the Telegraph spells out exactly what is wrong in this country when the BBC and government get into bed with the wrong people:
It is less than a month since Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered in Woolwich, yet already the incident feels half-forgotten. In terms of the legal process, all is well. Two men have been charged. There will be a trial. No doubt justice will be done. But I have a sense that the horror felt at the crime is slipping away.
The media, notably the BBC, quickly changed the subject. After a day or two focusing on the crime itself, the reports switched to anxiety about the “Islamophobic backlash”.
‘I sing no song for the once-proud country that spawned me,’ wrote a sailor who fought the Japanese in the Far East, ‘and I wonder why I ever tried.’
I see that the “Free Speech” (sic) programme via BBC3, a programme that is purposely aimed at teenagers and twenty somethings….You know, the one that vilified Tommy Robinson the other night in a sort of Stalinist show trial, Is both made and produced by the makers of Question Time…
That figures….”ein-volk-ein-reich-ein-fuhrer”…No age groups will escape the BBC/Guardianista’s indoctrination classes.
It is useless to resist…
well … when you get a ahem! “panel” of an alternative comedienne,? (who are ya?), some “rappa” chappie, and a woman whose only talent appears to be total ignorance of fact and training for the consistent gurning contest.? …
Throw in the socialist worker party audience, with a UAF
spokesman AND 😀 a host who applauds them? …
now come come …
the bbc can t get any fairer than that 😀 surely
it’s ok for the panel to appeal to an audience but it does not mean they are right. An audience could be doctored to fit the narrative as we all know.
Another classic sadly not available yet!
is andrew neale, sunday politics, sheesh!
another day, another round of constant interruption, hectoring, and incorrect far right/fascist inferences
… i maybe wrong, thought the idea was an interview, not a two bob psychology lecture, from yet another
agended beebot, hmmm getting to be quite a regular occurence … just compare the Neale attitude with the
MCB interview with Murat that followed …
Keeping his cool as these inferences get more absurd is a learned skill :-D, as they used to say on “Dragnet” … just the facts.
Andrew Neale eh!
then again … maybe he s just insecure about his … erm
well … what exctly is it on his head.
Andrew ‘brillo pad’ Neil, the poor sod, thinks he’s Perry Mason.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehdi-hasan/ten-questions-sarah-monta_b_3419665.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
I think that neale, had a print out of this, in front of him today …have a look
oh by the way … did it make any difference ? 😀
How sad is it to see mehdi hasan bleating the losers chorus,
“should have said this/should have asked that” …
laughable! the pertinent reality is, if you just stick to facts, and harsh reality … whatever comes your way is easy to answer … the bbc still just don t get it …
They in their deluded universe still think bleating offence, or racist is a rebuttal?
IT IS NOT … not when fact and reality come calling, these are just excuses for not facing the truth.
It’s on iPlayer as well.
Poor old Tommy looked out of depth and really couldn’t square the circle. If EDL is not a political organisation, it’s a street gang using intimidation. Like it or not EDL has attracted odd men who seem to want to constantly evoke the Nazis in every photo. Worse was Tommy saying they didn’t have a membership list which is a rather feeble getout.
He doesn’t have any solutions apart from not building mosques which is simply purile. If he wanted a debate on the funding of mosques he would find many moslems equally concerned about Saudi Arabia. However that’s too subtle for the skinheads EDL attracts.
However, why did the BBC then interview the Moslem Council of GB? A pretty discredited organisation which represents its own very conservative self interest. Pity the spokesman hadn’t been asked about the Gay and women’s mosque being set up. I suspect the mask would slip. Why wasn’t he?
Will,have you renewed your membership of the U.A.F. yet?
Robinson was brought in so that he and the EDL could be discredited in front of a serious BBC audience once and for all. Neil was reading either Mehdi Hasan’s list of questions, or from the same source Hasan got them. The goal was character assassination, and it was nearly accomplished. If you can’t defeat the message, shoot the messenger. Robinson fell for none of it, but there’s too much easy evidence against him.
No wonder the BBC keeps having Robinson on instead of, say, Douglas Murray, Rod Liddle, Andrew Gilligan, or Charles Moore, all of whom have espoused the same general views about the dangers of Islamist extremism in Britain.
The BBC needs to stamp down the message, so allows the worst possible spokesman for it to get nearly all the attention. It’s an old game. Perhaps Liddle and Gilligan have been invited on but declined? I suspect they haven’t been asked, but it’s easy enough to find out.
If the BBC had any real case to discredit the message other than shouting “racist” or, in Neil’s case, shouting “fascist thug”, they’d be talking to the credible pundits I’ve mentioned, or others without the baggage Robinson brings, and having adult conversations. But they don’t. And I don’t mean having them on panel shows every once in a while to debate other topics. I mean have them on in exactly the way Robinson is brought in, on the exact same kinds of shows, to discuss this topic specifically and no others.
As I predicted, the lessons of the Montague interview have been learned.
Will. You were in danger of making some interesting points there, but unfortunately your predictable snobbery and pathological hatred of white working class (or is inculcated SWP cant?) disables you.
“However, why did the BBC then interview the Moslem Council of GB?”
Why not? We either have free speech or we don’t. The question should be “why were they treated so differently” If Robinson is prepared to go on TV to spread his message then he should be prepared to defend it from hostile interrogation (However going ‘ner ner ner your a racist you are’ over and over again is hardly forensic questioning ).But Mehdi Hasan should have been treated the same.
Either grill them both or give them both a free ride and let the viewer make up their own mind ,that’s all I ask from the BBC .Any thing else is bias
If Medhi Hasan hates the West so much, why doesn’t he bug off to Saudi Arabia ?
A reply from one of the BBC’s “Chosen people” to Tommy Robinsons “Free speech” appearance…
Multiculturalism just is race hate – as this clip demonstrates.
The BBC promote Fascism (under a different name) with all the fervor that Leftist ideologues once put into supporting Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot.
It is not simply appeasement, although for most of the leeches at the BBC that is most of it, their ideologues are attracted to evil like flies to shit.
A Leftist ideologue is a narcissists for whom everybody is a means (just read the biographies of their heroes), and their envy and resentment is bottomless.
I’ve asked You tube to remove this. They are supposed to be more responsive. We’ll see.
You really hate a free society don’t you. Let the man say what he thinks, and let people make their own minds up about him.
Is it because you’ve had your illusions shattered will? Or is it because you want the vid despatched down the memory hole as if it never happened?
Can’t have a bad impression of Islam being broadcast can we, especially when it’s an anti-English foul-mouthed racist rant from an English Muslim.
This is a prima facia hate crime and would certainly be counted as such under Mama’s criteria had it been aimed at the islamic population. This person should be reported to the [thought] police rather than Youtube. Nothing would happen of course but it may cause a tremor of doubt to spasm across the CP trained chief inspectors’ brow.
Why?…..Don’t you like reality?….
Does it impinge on your precious feelings that much?
Please share this, its brilliant. This is what multiculuralism is all about. Creatures like this cannot integrate. Should be compulsory viewing for socialist dinner parties.
Damn , I think I’ve hit the report button…sorry!
Multiculturalism is/was never about integration. Good grief, how very 1970’s.
And again…This time a foul tirade against a twelve year old girl on Facebookm from one of the BBCs chosen peoples.
The BBC yet again working hand in glove with the far-left/Islamist UAF playbook that only the racist EDL say there’s a problem with Islamism.
Unfortunately this correctnick strategy has huge success. Outside the racist EDL there are only isolated voices that point out how Islamists are eating away at our country’s heritage and democracy with the aid of their totalitarian allies on the left.
The political bias of the BBC makes it unthinkable that there woul be a balance of guests and audience members disavowing the EDL but telling it straight about the Islamist menace this country is offering its throat to.
Andrew Gilligan has his finger on the pulse:-
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100140248/ken-livingstones-anti-fascist-group-appoints-fascist-as-vice-chair/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/10122496/Anti-fascists-fuel-the-fire-of-hate.html
EDL – UAF, two extremist groups trying to exploit legitimate causes to advance their own totalitarian agendas. The BBC exposes one and acts in cahoots with the other.
this is a bbc triple whammy …
here the other day on the bbc asian network, note the same staged bbc set up …
first montague – then neale, here with an arch apologist nihal,
It is National Union of Journalists’ policy to politically oppose the English Defence League, and here are Beeboids carrying out that policy.
george that asian network is by far the best of them all, no question
I didn’t hear it myself (I’m not actually that interested in what Mr Robinson has to say)
But others have told me that they felt ‘Asian Network’ gave him a fairer hearing than BBC 3
The left’s manipulation of our language is desasterous. it is sad for us because we have let it happen, without so mutch as a fight. I used to be a man, who was very verbose, and demonstrative. now i am just a machine who asks his daughter was that right. Did i offend anyone? have i used all my privlage? Orwell warned about this and we fell asleep.
Well then, blame Thatcher for getting rid of University tenure. I would happily tell the Equality and Diversity unit at the University what I think of them, but I would be on the street in 30 seconds flat.
sorry for typos rather nice chablis and no spellcheek !
Living in Britain is now akin to living in occupied France with a vichy government and a quisling media. How is it possible that the BBC side so obviously with a hateful group of people who behave in Britain in much the same violent and murderous way they behave in the rest of the world?
Islam stands against everything the “liberal” BBC purports to believe in, yet these leftist degenerates defend them to the hilt whilst attacking their own countrymen.
Is it simply because Muslims are non-white? Let’s face it, if a large and well organised group of whites practiced an ideology which espoused the core Nazi beliefs of supremacism, death for Jews and homosexuals, second class status for women, a desire for global control for which they are prepared to use violence and terror under a leader revered as a messianic prophet, would not the BBC roundly denounce them as Nazis?
Any Beeboid on these threads care to explain their perverse defence of Islam, which IS the new Nazi party in Europe?
“Is it simply because Muslims are non-white?”
I think it is. The BBC’s attitude towards other issues with a black/white divide seems to support it. Black victims of racist crime are promoted by the BBC (and others, it must be said) as household names but I can’t think of a single white victim who enjoys this distinction. No shortage of candidates, though.
The process started in earnest with the Deptford fire – remember that? Unfortunately for the BBC, it never really delivered. But then Stephen Lawrence was murdered and the crime became the “Deptford Fire” they had hoped for.
The BBC is an obnoxious, racist organisation.
Our old friend Weston. Leader of the EDL’s political wing! Which doesn’t exist anymore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Freedom_Party
Love the vid of your new party launch. Just you speaking to an empty room and a few friends.
Tomorrow The world.
Not.
No counter argument then?
His invite to ‘Free Speech’ must be wending its way to his inbox as we speak.
Votizpoint here Tommy?
Unless it`s to show that you have no knowledge, no experience or nothing whatsoever to bring to the party except an SWP/RAR banner from the 70s?
Doesn`t really matter what Mr Weston does-or his appeal or other-there`s a debate here, and he`s making a case deserving of more than your reflex personalisation of anything that might upset you.
I`ll be seeing Tony Benn soon as usual-the man is a credit to the Left in that you need not agree with anything he says-but he argues from the strength of policy, argument and of history as he knew it.
I respect that-and disagree….but he`s no empty vessel of mindless abuse or petty points as you are.
Watch a clip of him-borrow one of his arguments and post it up-learn it by heart if you like…but for Gads sake, give us an argument if you`ve gone to this trouble to “enter the conversation”.
Chowderhead!
Or even Choudrayhead?
It’s not Tommy Smith is it? The Anfield Iron? Good to see you’re still playing the man and not the ball, Tommy.
Talking about France, BBC-NUJ has not reported this:-
“MUSLIM MOB ATTACKS POLICE IN FRANCE”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/muslim-mob-attack-police-in-france.html
Update on France (above):-
“ARGENTEUIL, FRANCE: MODERATE MUSLIMS ATTENDING ANTI-ISLAMOPHOBIA RALLY ATTACK POLICE, LAY SEIGE TO TOWN HALL”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/argenteuil-france-moderate-muslims-attending-anti-islamophobia-rally-attack-police-lay-seige-to-town.html
“Is it simply because Muslims are non-white?”
Imagine if Islam was exactly the same in all respects but practiced by white folks, from Texas say. Then imagine the sneering, the ridicule, the condemnation, the burkha jokes that would come from the liberal lefties and their BBC allies.
Indeed: I was going to suggest that noggins video was probably an insight into the news quiz audience.
Have a listen to the repeat of Any Questions today if you want to see that the BBC hopes to belong to the likes of Free Speech(hah!) audiences and caring passionate panellists of colour and accent.
The Labour lollard seems to have a fitful clapometer that appluads all she says-and Medhi Hasan clearly gets a time share on it at times when he`s stuck for anything to say.
Dan Hannan gets his own tumbleweed meter and a fridge silence setting when he gets at the EU, rip off Labour councils, Browns “legacy”-and it turns to boos when he says that Labours schools abortion was somehow not as great as we`re told by the teaching unions….BOO!
As for the only elected politician-a teacher, and at least someone who has a few facts and figures…he just gets shouted at to resign at frequent intervals by some lone loon…and it goes uncontested by Dimbler.
Welcome to democracy, Pyongyang style…very dangerous ,and Comrade Patten sees no signs of it.
Maybe we`ll have to hang them around the necks of the revanchists, before anybody notices how creepy and debauched the BBC has become.
No official opposition any more, you see.
Yes, dimblebore’s apparent inability week in week out to silence the dross in the audience smacks to me rather a lot of James ‘****’ Naughtie and his pretend attempt at interruptions when he interviews his Labour chums.
Did I say ‘interview’ I meant ‘hand over the airwaves to’
My bad. 🙁
I really didn’t think it was too bad this week (unlike last week’s one, from mid-Wales). The audience was small and fairly quiet, both when agreeing and disagreeing with panellists. Those on the Left seemed to get slightly louder applause but it was never intimidating. The whole prog’ had a strange feel about it, curiously small scale, but apart from the man who shouted “resign!” a few times, the audience was ok.
What then of the incessant clapping from a few individuals for anything and everything said by the lefties?…sounded really contrived and forced to me!
I`m afraid we`re all deeply cynical of any output from the BBC these days…that Free Speech with Robinson in was the sign of what we can expect in future.
No neutrals in the Culture wars.
“Imagine if Islam was exactly the same in all respects but practiced by white folks, from Texas say. ”
Louis Theroux would be making sneering documentaries about them every other week
Charles Moore has a very good piece in the Telegraph today which sums up the attitude of the Liberal Left and their mouthpiece the BBC, towards Islam. He is quite right to say that the LL judge Muslims by very different standards to the ones they apply to the rest of the population.
One day, perhaps those Brits not lulled into permanent sleep by the BBC, will wake up and realise what a menace to them and their way of life, radical Islam really is.
If and when that happens I doubt that even the BBC will be able to lull them back to sleep.
Thank God for the likes of Charles Moore and Douglas Murray amongst others.
They manage to make the big points, and shine searchlights onto the hypocrisies and cowardice of the liberal left..spineless against Islam, fearless in the night raids on pensioners that don`t pay a TV Licence.
One point was well made-how come Islam pleads for tolerance when it`s a minority-running to Strasbourg and to Cherie/Cheria? at the drop of a burqa?
Yet when it`s the majority faith-f*** human rights, death to the rest of us and tolerance is for wimps!
All Muslim atrocities are followed by the second jihad-that of grievance farming, offence at everything that falls short of condoning their evils…and of course that call to tolerance they want for themselves, but not for the rest of us.
Anybody seen Dez?
I’ve said on here before, a good test of how peaceful and tolerant a religion is; what happens if you try to leave?
In Islam, the sentence is death. I have never heard any muslim, even those claiming to be moderate, refute the death penalty for apostasy.
If any other ideology in the UK imposed such salvage rules it would be deemed a dangerous cult, probably banned by the authorities, and anyone raising children under its rules would undoubtedly have them seized by social services. The BBC would condemn it at every opportunity.
It would be a real eye-opener if every Muslim interviewed on the media was asked; “just before we start, to establish your moderate credentials, what do you think should happen to people who leave islam?”.
Imagine if the penalty for leaving the Conservative Party – was, death. Would Cameron express any concern, or would he shrug “had it coming”?
BBC are quislings and traitors, continue to vilify as racist anyone who might remotely be patriotic. When a US Pres says “My fellow Americans” or French Pres “my fellow Frenchmen” this is the integration model, not the model of Multiculturalism.
I look forward to Cameron with a speech that begins, My fellow um .. errr.. “Britons” to cries of “racist racist racist!”
The only way that this country will wake up will never ever be from BBC news.
Hence Harman wants the res of the news licenced. They attack the bloggosphere the same way the attack pubs with the smoking ban. They simply dont want people gathering together to support democracy.
Yes, indeed Doublethinker. As I see it, the liberal Left cannot see what it might be like in a radical Islam state, where, it would be most probable that the Liberal Left would be the first ones lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head or as of recent events, beheaded in the streets of Great Britain. They, the liberal left, would have served their purpose but they are so stupid to see it, and the BBC is helping to promote this happenstance.
It is not simply stupidity it is love of evil. There is a sadistic (and masochistic) core to the Left that comes out in their politics, it is no accident that terrorism in modern times is almost entirely a product of the Left.
like hitler said in that you tube clip above,he recruited anjem choudary and the uaf to do his dirty work for him,but both of them have failed to subvert are democrasy,hitler,the uaf and anjem choudaty must learn one important lesson,they will never smash are democratic freedoms we fought so hard to get and enforce there way of life on us ever.
My dear old mom who died 3 years ago said: We fought against facsicts trying to invade our shores.
Now they come through the back door in the name of politics. Our brave youg men who gave their lives, and for what?
Just an adendom. Mom was 84 when she died.
“When Fascism comes to America, it will be called anti-Fascism” Huey Long
We already have it here. it’s called the UAF.
Will BBC-NUJ report this?:-
“UK: Man loses out on job after Muslim boss takes offense at his offer to buy bacon sandwiches for colleagues”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/06/uk-man-loses-out-on-job-after-muslim-boss-takes-offense-at-his-offer-to-buy-bacon-sandwiches-for-col.html
How did this story come to the attention of our asleep at the wheel cut and paste so called journalists? The real story is always “who passed this story to the press” but that will pass without remark because it shows them up for what they are: useless tools of every pressure group that wants attention for their cause.
TURKEY.
BBC-NUJ still supporting Erdogan, and censoring this:-
“Turkey: Erdogan claims Jewish investors behind anti-Sharia protests”
[Excerpt]:-
“Of course. Who else? Islamic Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Paranoia Update”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/06/turkey-erdogan-claims-jewish-investors-behind-anti-sharia-protests.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2341776/Coming-Britain-You-conned-homeless-set-Warning-Polish-migrants-official-UK-video.html….the politacaly correct goverment would never make a video advising black or asians not to come to the uk.singling out the poles just because they are white is just anti white racism
Now can the Govt make a video deterring Somalis, Pakistanis or Bangladeshis from coming to the UK ?
Those immigrants seem to get first pick in Britain; and some of them find London, Birmingham, etc useful bases for jihad activities in the UK, and in Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan, etc.
I quite agree Mark. At least the Poles don’t try to turn this country into a third world shit-hole.
Charles Moore says: ‘Malcolm Grant is the president of University College London, whose student Islamic society was run by the “Underpants Bomber”, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. He resists the suggestion that he should prevent such extremism on his premises. Now, as well as UCL, Prof Grant manages to be chairman of NHS England. I predict a peerage very shortly, or at least a knighthood. I also predict that preachers of deadly hate will continue to operate easily in our universities under the banner of academic freedom.’
Grant is an accepted and well remunerated member of the Establishment, it seems, and is happy to let radical Islam flourish on his campus, including the segregation of audiences.
It’s a funny old country we live in.
Is BBC-NUJ reporting this?:-
“UK: Muslim gang shouts abuse at young air cadets at Army barracks”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/06/uk-muslim-gang-shouts-abuse-at-young-air-cadets-at-army-barracks.html
It seems that some Muslims in Preston, Lancashire may have been inspired by events at Woolwich Barracks recently; but not worth mentioning for BBC-NUJ.
An enemy action at time of war.
Why aren’t they rounded up and incarcerated?
Add it to the ‘Nothing To See Here’ file, along with this:
http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co.uk/news/10468731.Man_alleged_to_have_slashed_friends_after_they_voiced_support_for_Woolwich_victim__Lee_Rigby/
The direction the BBC has taken really is strange. By rights, the BRITISH Broadcasting Corporation should be the other way around.
We should really all be talking about how embarrassingly patriotic they are and how unaccommodating they are towards “non-Brits”.
We should be laughing at how they play the national anthem in between programmes and how all their presenters speak like the old Pathe News presenters.
We should be cringing as they buy the rights to such “classics” as Love Thy Neighbour and broadcast them at peak hours.
I’m too young to remember but has the BBC always hated Britain so intensely?
It now acts, on matters relating to Islam, as
an Islam Not British Broadcasting Corporation (INBBC)
Thanks. I’ve seen the abbreviation used several times on here and always wondered what it meant. 🙂
The BBC is just the reflection of the so called educated/administrative/University/ media classes. It is their views, and their views alone, it reflects.
Too cool to have any love for their country or any attachment to the land. That would just be so embarrassing. Sneering comes easy to them but also along with it is mixed in cowardice and greed. After all they get the top jobs- mostly useless. They make nothing, grow nothing ,husband nothing. Not even children very much .
A good thing this last as it means they are doomed to extinction in a generation but not before they have wrecked havoc in my land with their me first and I want my needs satisfied philosophy.
I say it again the very very worst generation in the last 1000 years.
Stop talking to them. It is a waste of time. Think of them as heading towards yesterday and have faith in the ordinary Englishman. As for the BBC. It speaks only to these people and no longer to us.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/15/mosque-stabbings_n_3448248.html?utm_hp_ref=uk?ncid=GEP….edl in machete racist attack on mosque in birmingham all over far left lying websites.no.i live in birmingham and the stabber who went into the mosque with a machete was a somalian,never trust a lying uaf commie…
The reporting on this from Press Association, picked by INBBC and ‘Guardian’ and others, is disingenuous.
It is only towards the end of the report that it suggests that the perpetrator(s) of the violence in the mosque was/were Muslims:
“A nearby resident reported hearing an argument coming from inside the mosque and believes it was a domestic incident between members, Mr Shafiq said.
“‘I have spoken to someone who lives a few doors down from the mosque and they described hearing an argument between some of the people inside the mosque. It escalated into violence and a police officer has been stabbed..”
But the final propaganda is given to a Muslim to speak against anti-Muslims.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/four-stabbed-at-birmingham-mosque-29347881.html
‘Speaking at the scene, which has been placed under police cordon, Mr Byrne – MP for Birmingham Hodge Hill, said: “The community and the police have pulled together really quickly since the incident last night.
“What is already clear is that this was not a hate crime – this was a tragic, sad, and isolated incident.’
Tragic, sad, isolated attempt at 4 murders with a machete. Ahhhh, I feel soothed and reassured already…..
Tragic, sad and isolated….this bald gob on a stick seems to be confusing Gordon Brown with the brutal murder in a mosque in his own city.
Not racist, not a hate crime, simply a paper cut….God we`re in schtuck as long as the likes of Byrne are allowed to infest the body politic with their post-it notes etc.
He`s a Chinese whisper, and the future of Socialism alright….
BBC reports:
‘BBC Midlands correspondent Peter Wilson reported: “All lines of enquiry are being investigated, but this does not appear to be a hate crime attack.”‘
Because when one hears of machetes, mosques and stabbed policemen, one immediately suspects it is the ‘far right’ up to their old tricks again…
For INBBC:
– the man arrested is apparently a 32 year old Somali Muslim.
“Mosque knifeman stabbed policeman in chest and stomach AFTER he had been Tasered… and only stopped when worshippers helped restrain him”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2342504/Mosque-knifeman-stabbed-policeman-chest-stomach-AFTER-Tasered–stopped-worshippers-helped-restrain-him.html
Has INBBC reported this on Dewsbury?:-
“UK TEEN BRUTALLY BEATEN BY 15 MUSLIMS”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/uk-teen-brutally-beaten-by-15-muslims.html#comments
BBC 1 has just had on Andrew Neil interrogating English Defence League’s Tommy Robinson; this was immediately followed by a soft, non-interrupting chat with a rep from Muslim Council of Britain.
The first item I heard on BBC 5 live radio this morning (after 10 am) was a soft, non-interrupting chat with an-ex Guantanamo internee from Morocco who was apparently a UK resident for a time, being given a platform to politically campaign against the existence of Gitmo. No counter-view was allowed.
The politically empathetic ‘interviewer’ was: Ms ANAND.
Like those Nigerian butchers-funny how they all become “british” when it suits eh?
Much of what Rod Liddle has to say here is politically anathema to present-day INBBC-
“The blurry line between Islam and Islamism” *
http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/rod-liddle/8932201/to-draw-a-line-between-moderate-and-extremist-islam-is-to-miss-the-point/
(*Personally, it’s all ‘Islam’ to me.)
violence and trouble follows this religion called islam around like a bad smell,how can they be sure that it is not a hate crime because this guy was somalian and black,maybe because he forgot to scrawl edl on the mosque wall was his big mistake,then the bbc and media would be shouting racist and hate crime and blaming the edl.what really annoys me about this story is the use of the word hate crime,dont the media think that people with black or brown skins cannot commit hate or racist crimes in this country,we all know the answer to that.
For all we or INBBC knows, it could be part of the Sunni v. Shia hatred, as currently practised in Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, Lebanon, and globally.
Noted somewhere that the beloved Sarah Palin says that Allah should sort out Syria and the Sunni-Shia bloodbath in the making…and until the USA gets a decent Commander In Chief, they should not change.
The woman is a wonder to me-yet the paper says that what she says in “controversial”…hardly!
Any reporting of this in the BBC…need I ask?
sounds like he got upset because one of his fellow mosque worshippers sold him dodgy beefburger with traces of pork in it lol
Will INBBC report this example of Islamic sectarian hatred (and ‘islamophobia’?):-
“Syria Rebels Blow Up Shi’ite Mosque.
Al Qaeda supporters exact revenge against Shiites after the fall of Al Qusayr.”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/168985?
I wasn’t in the country at the time, but how did the bbc treat the brutal slaying of PC Blakelock in Broadwater farm? As I recall he was almost beheaded by a mob of blood-thirsty blacks. Was that seen as a racist crime? It seems that our soldiers and our police are seen as fresh meat for blacks and muslims and the bbc are by omission condoning, if not encouraging this uncivilised behaviour. Once the defence forces are subdued, they’ll come for us, the normal people of our nation; or rather these agents of evil are even now probing our weaknesses to choose their next target. Maybe if a few bbc creatures were to come into close contact with their beloved ethnics, they’d show some realism in their attitudes.
They blamed the police and promoted the views of Barmy (the police got a good hiding ) Bernie Grant
Barmy got a swift promotion within the Labour Party after that disgusting remark. Labour, the party of hate!
And Diane Abbot has carried on we he left off
So John in Cheshire, black = evil does it?
That equation = evil.
He didn’t say that
But you made that connection
He doesn’t say that.
It’s the extreme, one sided sensitivity and imagination of people like you who’ve made the job of the police almost impossible with certain types of crime.
Three people acting like the three monkeys over patent racist comments by j-i-c.
Just like those who choose not to see that the likes of Mo Begg & Binyamin Mohamed are Al Qa’eda.
I’ve got no illusions about the disaster that ‘multi-culturalism’ has wrought over Britain, but neither do I have illusions of what a disaster it would be if such visceral anti-coloured racism was to hold sway over Britain. At the end of the day, the far right of Islam and British racism both represent evil.
I’m not arguing that john’s comments aren’t ‘racist’ the ,definition of which is so fluid as to make any judgement of that irrelevant.
What I’m saying is that he didn’t say being black makes a person inherently evil (any more than being racist makes a statement automatically wrong) You extrapolated that for yourself
I mean wrong in a factual not a moral sense of course
Hippiepooter – mate, your account has been hijacked by Dez/Scott (or both).
Scrutinising every word in every comment or article that refers to minorities to find evidence of prejudice, putting the worst possible interpretation on any ambiguity, or just assuming that any comment on minorities has a sinister motive, stifles debate (sometimes intentionally) and contributes to the situation we find ourselves in. It is also arguably racist because members of minorities in positions of influence do not seem to me to be subjected to the same scrutiny and pressure, as pointed out regularly on this site. It is certainly not reasonable to expect people contributing to forums like this to employ lawyers to draft their comments. Mistakes will be made and words will be chosen badly from time to time. It’s natural, and everybody needs to learn to live with it. Freedom of speech, which we still retain to a limited extent, means that we will all be offended from time to time. BBC employees, and many of the people invited into its studios, offend me on a regular basis.
I worked with one of the CID who tracked down Silcott for this murder. Even 20 years on, the anger from him and the disgust at the resistance his team got looking for the killers was still vivid. Winston Silcott was subsequently found not to have been involved. But there were several others who combined to try and decapitate this police officer.
The methods the police used to find the killer would never see the light of day today, perhaps correctly. After 8 years in CID myself I can attest to the resistance we faced when trying to work through community leaders to get even a statement let alone information when communities closed ranks often at the say so of a local community or religious leader.
Today the police have one hand tied around their balls through oversensitivity to community cohesion. I would add that the majority of people from black/Indian/Muslim etc. communities I encountered were very nice, friendly and positive but a lot were in thrall to their community. If PC Blakelock were murdered today hunting those who tried to behead him would be nigh on impossible.
I weep for my country.
One abiding memory I have of the ‘Free Winston Silcott’ campaign is a press conference tabled with reams of ‘black yoots’ sat in a couple of serried rows with subservient looking young middle class white girls doing their best to look like ‘I’m only here because I care about justice’.
I wonder where these ‘gels’ are now? No doubt continuing to play a role in making the rest of us join Banquo in weeping for our country.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGznCC4MBeY…..england 16th june 2013 god help us
“Charles Moore has it just right on Woolwich.”
By Douglas Murray.
[Excerpt]:-
“In the piece Moore rightly criticises our societal inability to deal with Islamism. In particular he criticises the switch of attention which took place immediately after the murder of Drummer Rigby thanks to bogus claims of an ‘anti-Muslim backlash’. Moore also addresses the follow-up fib that a threat equal to the jihadis – or even the primary threat to our society – comes from the English Defence League.
“Incidentally, I saw that, whilst over for the G8 meeting, last night David Cameron had a joint press conference with the first minister and deputy first minister of Northern Ireland. Watching him standing beside Martin McGuinness, I wondered if Mr Cameron has any plans for another of those ‘we will never compromise or give in to terror’ speeches which he gives so well?”
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/douglas-murray/2013/06/charles-moore-has-it-just-right-on-woolwich/
Moore and Murray should be all over the BBC discussing this, not Robinson. Of course, that depends on what the BBC is trying to accomplish.
Indee-absolutely-deed.