Clive Myrie talks to Sylvia Emenike
BBC News presenter, Clive Myrie, presents the second of his three interviews on immigration as seen from an immigrant’s point of view.
This week he meets Sylvia Emenike. Sylvia came to the UK from Jamaica in the 1950s.
Clive will explore with Sylvia what her experience has been of living in the UK, but also of the changes she has seen since she moved here and her feelings about the waves of immigration that she’s seen from other parts of the world
Sounds innocent enough.
But really it is a bit of a bombshell…but not in the way you might think.
No ‘white person’ could say the things she does…and get away with it.
Sylvia Emenike left her home in Birmingham for some years but when she came back to Birmingham things had changed drastically.
Sylvia: ‘Where once there had been a predominant sense of a West Indian community that had changed….now there was a predominance of Asians.
Not only that…there was a sort of aura of secrecy…when people could only talk about our problems interacting with the Asian community privately, nobody was willing to speak out, nobody was willing to talk publicly about it and there was this fear if you like, that makes me feel uncomfortable because it feels as if there’s a sort of underlying cauldron of social ills or conflicts.’
She gives an example of Asian shopkeepers deliberately short changing Black people…so often that it couldn’t be a mistake….she said the Asians assumed that the Blacks weren’t well educated or ‘together’ and were an easy target.
Clive Myrie says: ‘It doesn’t sound like you like Asians.’
Sylvia starts to deny that…‘No…’
Myrie says: ‘Some people might say you are racist.’
Sylvia replies: ‘No..well I’d actually refute that, I’ve had bad experiences from people of all cultures..and good ones too…I’ve had some very healthy experiences with Asians…but as far as I’m concerned wrong is wrong and this fear of people being accused of racism or accused of speaking out about anything in that regard that criticises another race, that unfortunately stops free thinking and the sort of sharing of information that would actually minimise this sort of thing happening.
I would say that we need to try and rise above this bitterness and despite the fact that the experiences are very negative we now need to ask how can we improve our situation…moaning and groaning about it or feeling very resentful is not going to help us in any shape or form’
Clive Myrie: ‘Do you think as we move on that the two communities can live together and work together?’
Sylvia: ‘Yes I do, there’s a lot of positive things we can share but I think particularly within the Asian community that they have some very strong cultural influences that actually prevents, limits, some of the youngsters interacting with youngsters from other communities….If those barriers were lifted or relaxed I think it would be much healthier.’
Clive Myrie: ‘How are the two communties getting on at the moment?’
Sylvia: ‘I think there is a superficial politeness, a superficial tolerance but it is not healthy as it could be.’
Fascinating stuff…Aunty Beeb must be loosening its girdles a bit and letting the truth slip out about the genuine state of race relations rather than just pushing the happy clappy ‘diversity is such fun’ line.
A couple of weeks ago they ‘allowed’ the liberal from the left leaning Demos think tank (so ‘safe’), David Goodhart, on to speak about his new book on the damage done by mass immigration policies…..deemed so ‘toxic’ that the Hay Festival refused to allow him to attend.
I wonder how many complaints the BBC received about Sylvia Emenike’s revelations.