DB has done an excellent job in the previous post, I’m just going to add to that….
The BBC messed up. It badly, very badly wanted the Boston bombers to be white right wingers. They went so far as to claim, completely without evidence, that this was indeed the most likely scenario.
They were wrong.
But they are now attempting to rewrite history…not only to cover up the corruption of their own journalistic ethics but to hide the true catalyst that incited the Boston bombs…Islam.
The BBC’s Panorama programme claims to have connected the bombers to white supremacist’s supposed ideology…..and just about every news outlet, website and blog has picked up on this story and regurgitated it without thought or criticism….that is the power of the BBC to distort and manipulate the news and people’s views of the world.
As said the BBC is rewriting history and trying to change perceptions using what is essentially a fabricated story…a complete invention with regards to the meaning of this material and the causes of the bomber’s radicalisation.
The BBC’s Hilary Andersson reported this morning on Today (08:04)that:
‘The BBC’s discovery of the bomber’s interest in radical right wing ideas indicates he was not perhaps so much a radical jihadist but an angry young man who latched onto Islam.’
Let’s look at that last phrase for a start:
‘…an angry young man who latched onto Islam’
Was that Andersson’s own phrase…did she come to that conclusion by looking at the ‘BBC’s discoveries’ of his reading material?
No….in her own web article she tells us exactly where that phrase came from:
‘A spokesperson for Tamerlan’s mosque in Cambridge, Nicole Mossalam, said Tamerlan only prayed there occasionally. She portrayed him as an angry young man who latched onto Islam.’
In other words Andersson is peddling Muslim propaganda as her own conclusions.
Let’s now look at that White supremacist right wing literature…..
Here’s how Andersson starts off:
One of the brothers suspected of carrying out the Boston bombings was in possession of right-wing American literature in the run-up to the attack, BBC Panorama has learnt.
Tamerlan Tsarnaev subscribed to publications espousing white supremacy and government conspiracy theories.
Note that ‘in the run up to the attack’ thereby closely associating the attack with this literature….but just how long had he had it…did he suddenly start reading it and become radicalised? Because that is exactly what Andersson is suggesting by writing in that manner.
She goes on to tell us:
The programme discovered that Tamerlan Tsarnaev possessed articles which argued that both 9/11 and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing were government conspiracies.
Is that really right wing…the conspriracy theories about 9/11 are mostly left wing and Islamic….‘It was the Jews’
What about 9/11? Definitely those damn Yehudis. I mean, why else were 4,000 Jews in New York told to stay home from work on the morning of 11 September 2001?
Another quote from Andersson:
Another in his possession was about “the rape of our gun rights”.
In his possession…but what was the context….in which publication was this material published? Was it in a gun magazine? Something that came as a package? So maybe not actually of interest to him as an article.
Andersson tells us that there was…
Reading material he had about white supremacy commented that “Hitler had a point”.
Really?
A point about what exactly? Anti-Black racism in the US? Isn’t that what we mostly associate white supremacists with over the Pond? So the Boston Bombers were targeting black people?
Does Andersson not want to mention ‘the Jews’ in case we start to get the real picture?
‘It pains me to have to admit this but anti-Semitism isn’t just tolerated in some sections of the British Muslim community; it’s routine and commonplace. Any Muslims reading this article – if they are honest with themselves – will know instantly what I am referring to. It’s our dirty little secret.’
No Muslim of course wants to wipe out the Jews do they? Let’s see what the BBC favourite Muslim scholar, moderate and respected throughout the Muslim world (and one of the ‘experts’recommended by the BBC’s John Bowker should you wish to learn more about the true Islam and ‘What Muslims Believe’) has to say about Jews and Hitler:
‘Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the [Jews] people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them. Allah willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers.’
So perhaps the Tsarnaev brothers were reading material that suggested ‘Hitler had a point’ because they agreed with it…it tied in with their own Islamic beliefs.
But then Andersson gets to the truth:
There was also material about US drones killing civilians, and about the plight of those still imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay.
The Tsarnaev brothers, ethnic Chechens, spent their early years moving around a troubled region of Russia torn by a violent Islamic insurgency.
The brothers’ friends told us Tamerlan turned against the country and became passionate about Islam after becoming frustrated when his boxing career faltered because he did not have American citizenship.
“He (Tamerlan) just didn’t like America. He felt like America was just basically attacking all Middle Eastern countries…you know trying to take their oil.”
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Tamerlan’s younger brother who has been charged with the bombings, scrawled a note shortly before his capture stating “We Muslims are one body. You hurt one you hurt us all.”
The brothers had been reading militant Islamic websites before the bombings.
The FBI has been investigating the brothers, and possible connections Tamerlan might have had in the troubled Russian republic of Dagestan which he visited last year.
The House Intelligence Committee in Washington is being briefed on his connections.
The committee chairman, Mike Rogers said he believes the brothers’ mother, Zubeidat Tsarnaev, was involved in his radicalisation.
“He had family members encouraging, we know that for sure,” he said.
So despite all the evidence that points clearly towards the bombings being carried out in the name of Islam the BBC has ‘latched onto’ , to coin a phrase, some literature which it claims is right wing supremacist but is in fact perfectly in line with Muslim thinking.
‘The whole of Boston was jihad. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev said the bombing was “violence designed to terrorize the perceived enemies of Islam”and “when you attack one Muslim, you attack all Muslims. Tamerlan Tsarnaev declared, “I will dedicate my life to Jihad’’. “In telephone conversations he was caught on wiretap discussing jihad with mom (their mom was on the Islamic terrorism watch list as well). Tamerlan Tsarnaev vowed to die for Islam. US officials investigating the case said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s answers led them to believe he and his brother were “motivated by a radical brand of Islam.” Both Dzhokhar and Tamerlan had both become devout Muslims. And Dzhokhar uploaded a number of videos promoting jihad in Syria.’
The BBC prefers to play down the Islamic connections and headlines, literally, the white supremacist angle which they have in fact invented.
Andersson’s article and ‘Today’ piece must be one of the most corporate self serving corrupt pieces we have seen for a long time….covering up the BBC’s own failures and prejudices as well as hiding the real cause of the bombings.
The BBC Trust will no doubt recommend she be promoted…..though she obviously had better steer clear of this story from ‘ABC’:
‘Mounting Evidence’ Boston Bombers Involved in 2011 Triple Murder’
Wonder if that makes it into tonight’s Panorama.
the demonising by the left wing press and muslim groups of white people with centre right views is an outrage,there is no doubt there is demonising of anybody who just happens to have a white skin and right wing views and this has to be challenged and not tolerated,boston is a prime example of this demonising of imaginary so called right white american wing groups whom did not exist but still got blamed by the left wing press for the boston bombings when anybody that had half a brain knew this was an al qaeda insprired terrorist attack.
First thing i thought when i heard this on al beeb was “how can they be white right wingers when they’re not even white”
they look “asian” to me. probably as they come from asia
It really is shocking how low the BBC will go and it just seems to plumb new depths every week.
I can’t wait for the Islamist/Jihadist motives to come out during the trial and leave the BBC’s white supremicism theory in the gutter.
Imagine if one of the bombers was to cry the infamous words “allahu akbar” while standing in the court!.
The bbc will simply not report it.
I guess you’re right and they’ll still peddle their own warped agenda on it.
You mean like Major Hasan Nadal?
Great points. That “in the run-up to the attack” phrase is obviously intended to create the impression that “right-wing literature” was a significant motivating force in the older brother’s ideology.
In her video report Andersson uses a different phrase: “the older brother was also reading right-wing American literature months before the bombings” Which was it? In the “run-up to the attack” or “months before”? Make your mind up Hilary.
And yes, without context or further explanation “in his possession” is just a weasel hack phrase that is next to meaningless beyond its propaganda value.
The recent history of guilt by (selective) associations is not a pretty one.
Was there not also some daft hoo-haa spun up by the MSM because a political party (UKIP?) that it suits the establishment to have associated and hence tainted, however loosely, with the German National Socialist Party, had a meeting planned in a building that was once marked as a future office if they invaded.
It was this that showed me the MSM had fully embraced their role as tribal propagandists, using the techniques of those they pretend to deplore to smear opponents.
I once read the Communist manifesto – does this mean that I am a communist? And I also read Kim Il Sung’s “The Juche Idea” – his programme for communist rule in North Korea (a laugh fest of mad murderous socialism) does this make me a paid up died in the wool Stalinist?
You could check out my book shelves* and find all sorts of stuff; a road map of Damascus (I’m not Syrian) a history of Denmark (I’m not Danish) a journal from the university of Freemantle on the preservation of metal artifacts that have been in sea water for a long time but, remarkably, I an not an underwater archaeologist or even Australian. I have a copy of Les Miserables – but I’m not French and not a Communard. I even have a bible – does this make me a christian fundamentalist? And the fact that there is a copy of the Koran on the bottom shelf doesn’t imply anything at all about my religious beliefs. Most tellingly I even have an ancient Bluer Peter annual somewhere (Noakes and Shep on the cover)………………but I don’t like the BBC…………
*Or if you are a control-mad labour home secretary you can have GCHQ read my Amazon purchase history
Harry’s place have documented that islamist site’s very often link to white supremicist site’s for their jewish conspiracy theories.
It’s a new low of BBC reporting. So the possession of right wing material proves that they were right wing. Tommy Robinson has a Koran so he is really a Muslim. Adolf Hitler had read Das Kapital so he is really a communist. and so on
An other link of islamist sites linking to antisemitic sites;
http://archive.adl.org/main_Extremism/911_conspiracy_theories_report.htm?Multi_page_sections=sHeading_3
Meanwhile, still nothing from the BBC on the recent CNN revelations about the CIA giving regular polygraphs to its operatives to intimidate them into silence over Benghazi.
Unlike this Andersson bullshit about the Boston bomber the Benghazi stuff is a genuinely important story. But it might be bad for Obama and HR Clinton, so the BBC does what it always does and looks the other way.
The BBC is simply following the lead of their thought leaders. It’s not a major story for the NY Times or the WaPo (one of their bloggers mentioned it, but I think they got away with it) or Salon or Katty Kay’s friends at MSNBC or NPR. So it’s not worth reporting. As a matter of fact, both the President Himself and Katty Kay’s personal friend, Jay Carney, have said that this is a phony scandal. And as we know, Heroic Hillary, an inspiration to all women, said it’s irrelevant. That’s all the BBC needs to know.
Of course, there isn’t a major US media outlet making a major feature about how the Boston Bomber Bros. were actually inspired by white supremacist Truthers and the whole jihad thing was a non-starter, but that’s BBC double standards for you. Whatever feels good.
I’ve asked the BBC’s State Dept correspondent Kim Ghattas why the BBC hasn’t covered the recent CIA/Benghazi story. I don’t expect a reply. Or the BBC to cover it.
I hope she doesn’t give the same lame excuse Mardell did: it was a story covered only by those wacky right-wingnuts, so who could tell there was anything to it?
How easy is it to plant a book, make up a “I agree with Hitler” tweet? Is this the game-changing evidence, or the BBC HOPING it was all a far right plot. Didn’t any one tell them that “Nazi” is a truncation of National Socialist”?
doesnt al beeb know about the muslim SS who fought for hitler?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13th_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Handschar_%281st_Croatian%29
we can play the BBC at their own game. Next time a beeboid or their trolls accuses of being right wing we can refer them to this thread and say no, we have a copy of The Communist Manifesto – FULL Audio Book – by Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, so we must all be lefties. enjoy comrads
It would be interesting to know precisely what ‘right-wing’ literature the suspect was reading. The name of any periodical would be useful. After all, the BBC have their own definition of ‘right-wing’.
Isn’t this rather like Panorama on McAlpine? BBC staff sees something that they could use to ‘dish the dirt’ on the right and then follows it through with rose-tinted spectacles, blind to the fact that they are wrong?
Right wing fascists is all we hear about. But who are these people who have cornered the market in mass murder?
Socialism/ Marxism/ communism – the Unholy trinity, extreme Leftists all, have been responsible for the greatest mass murder of human beings in one century, in all history. Some 150 million killed, more then 10 times that number scarred for life, and its dire effects continuing even now.
What I find very depressing about humans, is that we continue to teach Marxism as some wonderful ideology that will lead to mankind to Utopia. Do our intellectuals never learn.
If two ideologies need taking down thoroughly it is Marxism and Islam.
just watched panorama.this was very poor journalism from hilary andersson in what seemed a like a falied attempt to excuse the actions of the terrorists and instead she was just scrambling about trying to understand why these poor little angels turned into bloodthirsty jihadi murderers,very worry as well the responce from the muslim community leaders in new york and there hostility towards the nypd attempts to smash these terrorist cells.why would helping the police in new york by spying on the mosques increase the chances of more terrorism according to that muslim woman interviewed by the caring poe faced hilary andersson,dont make sense.
I was forwarded this URL by someone whose opinion I respect who labeled it a “sensible discussion,” and I agree.
A few points that seem like minor items, but over time may reveal themselves as more significant:
If we’re talking about actual cause, and not proximate cause, I think there’s a different culprit.
We see this pattern repeat itself often: dropping out of society, drug use or other self-destructive activity, and then gravitating toward extreme ideologies.
It happened with school shooters like Jeff Weise, domestic revolutionaries like Tim McVeigh, the shoe bomber Reid, and the 9/11 bombers.
The point of this is that the origin of their issue is being lost, and they gravitate toward extreme ideologies from an extreme need for meaning and purpose.
I would submit instead that the core of liberal society, pluralism, causes this condition by removing from people any sense of identity, values or purpose.