Britain First
It is a fact…Oswald Mosley loved Britain.
How do we know this for sure?
Because he served not only in the British Army in the First World War but in the Royal Flying Corps as well.
The Westminster Gazette told us…‘He has human sympathies, courage and brains.”
So let’s have no more derogatory remarks condemning Oswald Mosley for his Fascist beliefs.
He loved Britain, he served in the Forces…and that’s good enough for the BBC.
Oswald Mosley in British Army Uniform 1918
If we are to believe the BBC having served in a country’s military is demonstration enough that you love a country….regardless of your political, social and cultural beliefs however much they are in contradiction to British political, economic and cultural values.
Emily Maitlis on Newsnight continually pressed this point of view…and flashed up a photograph of Ralph Miliband in uniform to emphasise her point.
But that is a very easy, lazy, unthinking route to go down as proven above with Oswald Mosley…and demonstrates, if any demonstration were needed, just how bad Newsnight is at handling anything more than a simplistic argument.
If past political positions inform us now how that same political institution thinks today what to make of this:
The Democratic party created the Klu Klux Klan.
Are we saying that President Obama is a racist, anti-Black Democrat?
Maybe he is…he didn’t serve in the US Army after all.
Someone should point out to Miss Maitliss that service in World War II was not voluntary. Apart from that fact, after 1941 a communist such as Adolphe Milliband would have been quite willing to take up arms against the enemy of the Soviet Union. Before the German invasion of the USSR in 1941, he would have been under orders from Moscow to oppose the British war effort against Stalin’s ally Hitler. Real life is a bit more complex than Miss Maitliss must think.
Yup, I noticed that Mili never said his dad WANTED to serve, only that he did serve.
Never forget that Oswald Mosley had a son, who’s feelings may be hurt by people being rude about his dad!!
“Never forget that Oswald Mosley had a son, who’s[sic] feelings may be hurt by people being rude about his dad!!”
Of course, there is also the question of whether Mr Mosley would sue, on the basis of any articles alleging his father’s politics plays any part in certain aspects of his (*ahem*) “private life,” shall we say?– oh, how soon we forget!
I just wonder what would happen if a British soldier serving in some or other Islamic cess pit is somehow indoctrinated into the ways of the holy “prophet”, and then goes onto wage war against those he once fought alongside…..
Would he love this Country too?…..Or does that depend if he’s acceptable to the BBC/left or not?
Don’t know about a British soldier but isn’t there currently a very popular tv series where an Amrr’kan soldier does exactly that?
As he is a baddy he is, of course, played by a Brit. Does that count?
Just a pity the BBC doesn’t feel the same way about the guys who serve right now, instead of producing 2 bazillion dramas in which they’re either bloodthirsty psychos or burned out PTSD cases.
They’re largely white working/lower-middle class oiks.
Quite a number of these ghastly creatures sympathise with the EDL too. Certainly not the sort of people one would wish to do cocktails with.
Whilst it is certain that Mosley was a patriot, but obviously not a democrat , it seems to me highly unlikely that Miliband was either! But then the BBC isn’t democratic either unless of course you agree with them!
Whatever the Mail said about Ralph Miliband pales in comparison to what’s been said and published on the BBC about Sarah Palin.
Some people here may remember this Richard Bacon incident, for which the BBC was eventually forced to apologize. Worse still was the when several people at the BBC blamed Sarah Palin for causing that lunatic to kill a bunch of people in Tucson. How is calling somebody a Marxist who hated his country worse than that? Then there was the time the BBC had to apologize for calling Norris McWhirter a fascist. Nobody was calling for severe restrictions and oversight on the BBC then. Yet now the Beeboids are happily demanding it on the Mail for an equivalent sin.
Marxists, by the very nature of their ideology, hate ANY country which doesn’t share their political philosophy. Miliband Snr, admitted many times throughout his life that he loathed the institutions, establishment, traditions and culture of this country. That, in a nutshell, is pretty much admitting that he DID hate this country. It was Aneurin Bevan, Labour’s poster boy for setting up the NHS, who famously stated that the Tories were “vermin”, Herbert Morrison, Mandelson’s grandad, who said he was determined to “build the Tories out of London”. We’ve seen the vitriol that was poured on Margaret Thatcher e when she died. The poison spouted by Labour’s pigmy politicians and other left wing “thinkers” makes the Daily Mail’s article on Ralph Miliband seem like a love letter to him. Where was Red Ed then? NOWHERE! He didn’t even criticise his own MPs for their part in the vilification of Maggie when she died. There was certainly no thought of the feelings of her family when Labour politicians and party members held street parties and celebrated her death. Didn’t see Ed moaning about the intrusion on family grief then.
Ed Miliband is a disgusting politician, forever attacking opponents and jumping on politically advantageous bandwagons, but becomes a cry-baby, bellyaching about criticism of his “beloved” father.
If, God forbid, this creep ever becomes Prime Minister, how will he react if he falls foul of the big boys on the world stage (Putin for example)? I think the past week has shown Red Ed is totally unfit for P.M.
It also shows just how politicized the BBC’s editorial perspective has become.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/10/miliband-and-daily-mail-the-vultures-are-circling-the-free-press-again/
‘I’ve now had about 18 phone calls, 16 of them from the BBC, asking me to comment on this nonsense.’
Let 8,000 Tulips bloom, maybe?
‘But look at the graphic on the right: the most-read stories on the BBC website. No one gives a monkey’s about Ed Miliband’s spat with the Daily Mail. But the BBC has nonetheless decided to make this the lead story on its website and on its bulletins.’
Yet… they claim to speak for the nation.
Lucky the nation is compelled to fund them even if this, too, is total BS.
Ed Miliband, the man who stabbed his own brother in the back to become the leader of the welfare party! And we are supposed to feel sympathy for this disingenuous snake? Get this Ed…. Marxists hate democracy, hate freedom and any country that embraces these human rights…period !
And as for the useful idiots at the anti British broadcasting corporation….simply that…useful idiots !
Such behaviour is endemic in the Far Left.
I say, fight fire with fire. The Leftist bullies know what it is like.
And, of course, Mosley was an ex-Labour guy. And the lefty Mirror was pretty impressed by him. At least at first.
I love it when they get into one of their moral tantrums. And as everybody knows two things you must never give in to are terrorists and tantrums.
As regards another BBC obsession, the racism of the working class, there’s a great post called: “Racism Obsession” at:
http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/#!/2013/10/racism-obsession.html
I suppose it’s OK you only ever linking to your blog in your comments (it’s a good blog) but, after a torturous change of subject mid comment to get in line with what you have blogged about do you have to insist on always having such a banal tag line “there’s a great post at” or “there’s a good take on this at”…purleeez
Yes, and let’s not forget Oswald Mosley started his political life in the Labour Party, where he was looked on as a future Labour PM.
Just for clarity didn’t he originally stand as a conservative then when he won immediately crossed the floor? prob because he stood no chance of winning his seat as a labour MP !
Ralph Milliband fled the Nazis and arrived in Britain in May 1940 as Britain faced invasion. In June 1943 he joined the Royal Navy. He took a medical in 1942 with a view to joining the Belgian Resistance.
Did something happen after 1940 and before 1942? Milliband’s native homeland occupied by the Nazis and Soviets. His place of refuge occupied by the Nazis. His adopted homeland threatened with likely defeat by the Nazis. Did something happen in 1941? The Nazis turned on their allies and invaded Soviet occupied Poland, and the US joined the UK at war with the Nazis and Japan, but surely these developments reduced the threat to Britain?
http://order-order.com/2011/05/03/red-ed-hugs-thatcher-grave-dancer/
Hypocrisy !
Although it must be easier said than done, when under pressure in a hall full of leftists, I think Quentin Letts could’ve done a better job at defending the Mail on QT, by pointing out just how evil the Milliband’s political ideology is and explaining the misery, suffering and death that it’s inflicted on hundreds of millions of people.
Harry Cole did a good job of this in his BBC interview, but could still have gone further.
Mosley ‘was a left wing nationalist so by definition ‘loved Britain’ in his own warped way. He and Miliband wanted to change this country to be like a foreign dictatorship. Mosley chose Hitler, Miliband chose Stalin.
And let us not forget, that Hitler and Stalin were two sides of the same coin.
They were rivals not opponents. A bit like the Green Party and the Socialist Workers Party.
Their enemy? Anybody who seeks to defend a free society.
How entirely coincidental that so many of the BBC journalists who made no secret of their hated of the “Tea Party” are so keen to defend the memory of Ralph Miliband.
rivals not opposites I meant to say
Only Alan, supporter of current fascist trash like the EDL would compare a strutting uniformed buffoon with an intellectual academic. One was a total dead in rejected by the British public then and his adherents continue to be rejected. However the move left continues as evidenced by the utter despair now evident in most of the posts on this site.
You’ve lost every argument, every votes, every day.
Good fun reading the squirming:-))
“I am not, and never have been, a man of the right. My position was on the left and is now in the centre of politics.” Oswald Mosley (1968)
“an intellectual academic”
As opposed to an academic that plays the spoons.
‘You’ve lost every argument, every votes, every day.’
Hard to tell with this gem of a (w)EFL post, but is Alan standing for election?
If so… if you say so.
I`m not going to get too involved in this, but wasn`t Mosley a Labour Party member , then a Labour MP?…and one considered a future Labour Leader at the time before he traded in his “International Socialism” for a more “National ” one?
And-to be fair to Oswald…al least he got voted in by Labour supporters…and didn`t pay for them to sit at the LSE and urge the defeat of this country in various wars and causes…and well able to urge the same from his Hampstead drawing room salon with fellow useful idiots.
Many of who are doing rather well now thanks to that old red tie and badge of daddys…Toynbee, Harman etc.
Whats your excuse for condoning this old red wedge of privilege will?
Both were of the left, supported philosophies that led to the deaths of millions of people, and have sons who want to control the press. The only real difference is that Mosley as a nationalist could claim to love his country, Miliband wanted to change everything about a nation that had given him refuge in his time of need.
“TUSC/STUSC announced the below list of parliamentary candidates for the 2010 general election, including ten in Scotland.[16] They received a total of 15,573 votes, or 0.1% of the popular vote”
Still by 2013
TUSC stood in the Eastleigh by-election. Candidate Daz Procter achieved 0.15% of the vote.
Yep the left marches inexorably on
“One was a total dead in rejected by the British public then and his adherents continue to be rejected.”
If by this you mean that the fascist left has generally proved unpopular with voters in this country (unless of course you are talking about British Muslims voting for the Respect Party) then you have just explained why Ralph Miliband was so opposed to democratic systems.
“the move left continues…Good fun reading the squirming”
Ah yes willduncan the not at all left wing bloke who declared that the BBC
“usually get it right”
and that despite
“the huge output of a news organisation like BBC”
mistakes happen, but because there are
“so few…is why the BBC still has credibility.”
Credibility with who? A fascist twat like you?
Q: What do you do with a (will) dung-can?
A: Sh*t in it!
It would once have been “Vote Mosley-get Labour”
Today it remains that if you vote labour, you`ll getr Mosley in his new incarnations…Hugo Boss pastel with Russell Brand as the new face of the marching powder of the elite.
I prefer Savile to Brand…at least our Jim did raise a few bob for charities…or so the BBC used to tell me.
Mosely and Milliband loved their country like a paedophile loves a child.
marxism= fascism=commuism=fascism,socalism= fascism,islamism = fascism,hitler= fascism,stalin= fascism,pol pot = fascism..pick your favorite fascists out of this lot.
The best way to understand Mosley and Milliband is to read what they have written and said, in addition to what they have done. How many have done either? Both of them fought in world wars. Both of them supported policies they believed could bring about peace. Both expressed qualified support for Hitler or Stalin. The main difference was that Mosley and his supporters advanced detailed policies for the development of the British Empire, whereas Milliband and his leftist comrades supported the Soviet Empire.
As for Jewish attitudes in the 20th century I refer readers, just for a start, to Professor Colin Schindler’s article in “The Jewish Chronicle”, 4 October, “Ralph, Israel, Orwell and Marx”. It is ironic that while Jewish Communists and British Fascists were engaged in a mutually misguided conflict in this country before the war, Stalin was killing more Jewish communists than Hitler. The curious thing about the robot-leftist response to their iconic (if unread) opponent, the “Daily Mail”, is the ignorance of or indifference towards the invasions, mass-murders and concentration-camps of communism from 1917 in Russia to North Korea today. Who gives a tinker’s cuss about the innocent victims of the RED Holocaust?
A brief PS if I may, please.
The name is Shindler, not Schindler. Apologies, since it was this gentleman’s interest years ago in the “prisoners of Zion” in the post-Stalin camps that spurred me to research this entire subject and to subscrbe, among other weeklies, to “TJC”.
The “Mail” newspapers are not exactly “far-right” in their support for Stephen Lawrence and transracial adoptions, and their attacks on “fascism” and Prince Charles. But to attack them because of the original Lord Rothermere’s short-lived support for the Blackshirts and his efforts to promote peaceful co-existence with Germany is as irrelevant as to blame LibDem Leader Nick Clegg for the massive eulogies to the National Socialist Leader from Liberal Leader Lloyd George, e.g. “I talked to Hitler”, Daily Express, 17 September 1936. At one stage even Churchill came out with favourable comments on Hitler and Mussolini far more excessive than any I could find from Mosley, whose assessment of Hitler in “Right or Wrong?” (1961) seems balanced and thoughtful (though it seems to echo some reflections of Erich von Manstein).
“Ralph Miliband and the politics of hate”
http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/ralph-miliband-and-politics-of-hate.html
Paragraph writing is also a fun, if you be acquainted with afterward you can write or else it is difficult to
write.
Someone interviewed on Sky News reminded us that Miliband was not up in arms when the BBC and others were dancing on Margaret Thatcher’s grave (the witch is dead). What about the hurt and injury to her relatives and friends?