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I don’t have a tv or iPlayer so I missed BBC’s QA. But I listened to R4’s QA programme today. I missed the start & the names of the people who were on it, although I gather Rachel Reeves was on it. I do not believe these audiences are randomly chosen. Either the BBC is lying when it says local audiences are drawn randomly or somebody somewhere knows how fix the system. I have never heard such left wing tosh.
I came across this article on the BBC website http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24285175
Do a search and replace on German for Soviet, Germany for Russia, and Fascism for Communism and you know damn well the article would never see the light of day on the BBC.
Agenda what agenda?
Mark Mardell reports from the heart of Republican country – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24394644
He tells us about the ‘hardcore’ views he encountered, such as:
“I don’t want Obamacare.”
“We are headed towards socialism and that’s not America.”
So in Mark Mardell’s book, if you are in favour of reining in rampant public spending, you are ‘hardcore’…
The saddest part of all of this is that the black woman expressed proper Tea Party and very old-school US values, yet Mardell still believes that the movement – and opposition to the President’s policies in general – is driven by foul hyper-tribalism and crypto-racism. I wonder what doublethink he’s come up with to explain her away. Or maybe she’s just the victim of the Fox News/Limbaugh echo chamber, the poor thing.
Greenwald decides that HE decides what US/UK security should be opened up. The result?:-
“Glenn Greenwald, who reported on NSA surveillance leaks, to address banquet of Hamas-linked CAIR”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/10/glenn-greenwald-who-reported-on-nsa-surveillance-leaks-to-address-banquet-of-hamas-linked-cair.html
Is BBC-NUJ prepared to criticis Greenwald more now than this?:-
(14 min video clip ‘Newsnight’)-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24402521
(It seems odd that the above ‘Newsnight’ interview appears on BBC News ‘Technology’ page, not ‘Politics’ page.)
Maybe it’s less likely to be seen there?
At least, by the wrong kind of person…
http://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2013-10-04/the-most-embarrassing-news-interview-ever/
Of course, it may be seen as that elusive ‘head-in-oven/feet-in-freezer’ balance for the corpse of BBC professional credibility.
It was not for me so much the lines she took, more the woeful level of preparation and argument she displayed.
Not a single thing on the BBC website about the ObamaCare system being an unmitigated disaster that’s been shut down for the weekend (at least) for repairs. No mention, either, that signups have been so scarce that the White House operatives in the media (most of them outside of what Mark Mardell calls the echo chamber of talk radio and Fox News) were scrambling to find a positive story. It got so bad that the guy the White House used as their first poster boy for signing up on the ObamaCare Exchange turns out to be an activist for the President’s own Organizing for America. Oh, and actually he hasn’t completed the process yet. The BBC knows all about this because it’s in the Washington Post and the HuffPo, but have decided you don’t need to know.
There’s no room for any of this – even though ObamaCare is at the center of the current budget war – because the BBC is too busy publishing reports about the public being angry at Congress in general, along with the requisite White House demonizing but not even remotely divisive or anything rhetoric. No blame for any of this gets anywhere near Him, of course. Only racists are angry at the President or place any blame on Him.
I read on American Thinker Blog that the ObamaCare poster boy has admitted being a paid blog troll for the Democrats.
Do you think the Democrats got the idea from the BBC?
There’s no need for a conspiracy or secret communications for this kind of thing to happen. Just like the way Left-wing bias and a specifically Left-wing perspective on a given issue spreads across the spectrum of BBC broadcasting without any memo or editorial cabal or directive sent from on high, the bias occurs naturally if they all think the same way already.
I see this case as more analogous to the IRS scandal the BBC pretends doesn’t exist. Some ideologue feels it’s his duty to perform in support of his beloved Obamessiah and acts accordingly, without giving the slightest consideration to the consequences.
This kid did it all on his own, out of religious devotion. Just like how so many Beeboids on different shows and in different departments magically take the same perspective on certain issues. I could expand on this religion metaphor for ages, but lurking and non-lurking journalists may object.
You almost feel sorry for Vance. He gives the impression he is going away and won’t be dropping in. All the while he is busy tweeting!
No doubt his many socks and false identities are packing out the comments here! Most of this site is populated by a handful of very lonely men replying to their own posts!
Keep it up David. We know you are here!
People have handheld computers these days called ‘phones’.
I’m David Vance, and so’s my wife.
“Most of this site is populated by a handful of very lonely men replying to their own posts” Oh the irony! Welcome aboard ABBA.
Funny how these BBC supporters/employees/whatever they are are blissfully lacking in self-awareness, especially when shooting themselves in the foot.
ABBA will be changing his user name for his post on this site. Strange he uses the same old phrases and insults used by previous Beeboid trolls on this site. They really ought to try harder in future.
You should be credited for such an accurate prediction.
Well, the name didn’t change, nor the message, but still sufficiently case sensitive to see you validated.
And he is now joined by a young, popular (2 likes) man replying to his posts. Ironic again.
Guessing ‘”Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man
After Midnight)” is probably ‘their’ song?
Speak for yourself….
The BBC constantly gives the impression that the shutdown is due to Republican’s intansigence. Conveniently forgetting that a President must follow some basic guidelines when his party doesn’t control everything: i.e. look for common ground and make compromises. That’s democracy and the BBC is quick to forget the realities when it suits their agenda.
‘IPCC Stands Accused Of Misleading World Leaders & The Public’
‘Did The IPCC ‘Fix The Facts’?’
‘The full text of the IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report has been out for less than 24 hours and the tales of malfeasance are flowing already. Steve McIntyre has already blogged about some misleading behaviour by senior scientists involved in the review, but his post this morning is amazing, revealing how the discrepancy between climate models and observations was systematically hidden between the final review of the draft and the report issued to the public’. –Andrew Montford
‘For the envelopes from the first three IPCC assessments, although they cite the same sources as the predecessor Second Draft Figure 1.4, the earlier projections have been shifted downwards relative to observations, so that the observations are now within the earlier projection envelopes. You can see this relatively clearly with the Second Assessment Report envelope: compare the two versions. At present, I have no idea how they purport to justify this. None of this portion of the IPCC assessment is drawn from peer-reviewed material. Nor is it consistent with the documents sent to external reviewers.’ –Steve McIntyre
Lots more here:
http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=c920274f2a364603849bbb505&id=c6a443f94c&e=f4e33fdd1e
Some good leads there, BBC – off you go now!
Worth giving the individual link to Steve McIntyre’s findings on the IPCC’s ‘sleight of hand’:
http://climateaudit.org/2013/09/30/ipcc-disappears-the-discrepancy/
‘So how’d the observations move from outside the envelope to inside the envelope*? It will take a little time to reconstruct the movements of the pea.’
How indeed.
Any clue, Harrabin?
* ‘The envelope’ being the temperature projections from the IPCC’s climate models.
Any cooling is presumed to be a scientific error, and then the politicians insist on corrections to the science, and therefore errors always show a warming when corrected.
That’s how I assume how the IPCC works, but Harrabin would not have a clue due to the fact that as with most guardianistas, they have the mind of a thirteen year old, and therefore should read the book “The Delinquent Teenager” by Donna Laframboise.
A very good book. As is “Watermelons” by James Delingpole, as is “Taxing the Air” by John Spooner and Bob Carter , and “Behind the Green Mask” by Rosa Koire – a scary indictment of UN Agenda 21, under which we will all find ourselves imprisoned before very long.
Yes.
BBC.1 Flagship “Religion” programme … Sunday,
which one?
spoiler … Sunday “Muslim” … oops Morning Live.
treats tomorrow?
“The Ottomans” … well could it be anything else
propaganda/advert in one
Europes Muslim Emporers
Muslims doing enough to prevent radicalisation?
oh … and marriage a thing of the past?
– Yvonne Ridley?
– former Mujahideen fighter researcher Usama Hasan?
hosted by – Samira Ahmed
Religious Programmes Editor – Aquil Ahmed
a little addition,
– Rageh Omar will probably introduce “The Ottomans”
– will include Yasmin IaLiar Brown
oh … and its produced by Kuljinde Khalia
AND … I wonder who they’ve got lined up on the bloody Skype
You mean! … there s no room for Mehdi (kaffirs animals) Hasan?
Yes, the INBBC’s Islamisation of broadcasting output has become the political norm.
Can’t wait for the Benediction Shill show.
‘Sunday Telegraph’ page 1 (£):-
“BBC accused of becoming Ed Miliband’s mouthpiece”
[Excerpt]:-
“MPs accused the corporation of allowing the Labour leader to ‘milk’ the row over a description of his father as ‘the man who hated Britain’ by covering it extensively and prominently for far too long.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10358533/BBC-accused-of-becoming-Ed-Milibands-mouthpiece.html
‘Becoming’?
Ok, let’s go with that.
“BBC accused of becoming Ed Miliband’s mouthpiece”
The BBC is already there, and has been there for some time as regards being inspired by Marxism.
How the bBC has become the Lord Ha ha for Islamic terrorism:
Al-Shabab militant base ‘attacked’ on coast of Somalia
Islamist fighters in southern Somalia say Western forces have launched a night-time raid on one of their bases. The militant group al-Shabab told the BBC “white soldiers” had arrived by boat at the port of Barawe and rebels had repulsed them, losing a fighter.
So the bBC unable to report the fact that their ideological heroes got a good kicking last night report with a pro Al-Shabab preceptive which is why they point out that the attackers where white (Thus automatically Racist and that the brave jihadists drove them off. But hang on this is the bBC, which is why they report this leftwing wet dream:
“Local al-Shabab commander Mohamed Abu Suleiman said the raid had failed and the group remained in control of Barawe.Later, Reuters carried a statement by Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, al-Shabab’s military operations spokesman, which said that British and Turkish special forces were involved.He said the commander of the British force was killed, and four SAS and a Turkish soldier were wounded.”
So the bBC with no information on what happened instead of sticking to its editorial policy of waiting for the facts reports that the British SAS lost in a gunfight to their Islamic heroes.
Really?
Here is what the rest of the world are hearing about the raid:
U.S. Says Navy SEALs Stage Raid on Somali Militants
NAIROBI, Kenya — A Navy SEAL team targeted a senior leader of the Shabab militant group in a raid on his seaside villa in the Somali town of Baraawe on Saturday, American officials said, in response to a deadly attack on a Nairobi shopping mall for which the group had claimed responsibility.
So much for the British SAS bBC?
The bBC, The propaganda arm of Islamic terrorism
” al-Shabab later reported that it had killed the agent.”
—
‘Reported’? Maybe al-Shabab should get their own byline and designation: Africa Kicking Off Editors?
They certainly seem to have very direct access to the BBC watertight oversight circumvention team.
‘And now, in other news, we pop back to Syria for some great offal dietary tips from our new BFF, and Middle East Cannibal correspondent, Mad Al’.
A BBC spokeszombie is quoted as saying ‘So what? We can do what we like, hahahaha..!’
BBC news running an “outrage” and “sympathy” piece tonight on the protests taking place outside Russian Embassy,s here and elsewhere for the Greenpeace pirates arrested whilst trying to board a Russian oil rig in the Arctic. Usual suspects of course, lots of green idiots with placards and one dressed as a polar bear. Viv Westwood also amongst them along with Jude Law who Was interviewed….”They Are being held illegally and could get 15 years”
As they attempted to board the rig illegally and have been charged quite rightly with piracy let’s hope they do Jude, can you also tell them to put their tents on eBay as they won’t be going to any fracking demos for while !
‘”They Are being held illegally and could get 15 years”
The world is full of young useful idiots being sent off as cannon fodder to suit the greater PR aims of older, wiser, more cave-comfy guys.
As Obama and his PR teams are currently deliberating how to spin, if a person or persons try and storm edifices with ‘Do not come any closer, or else), there can be… consequences.
As to legality, or not, that surely gets decided by allowing legal process to take its course?
Or are Stuart Hughes & his acolytes going to inspire another boycott to circumvent this when the result does not suit?
‘Telegraph’ (£) –
“Questions over BBC ‘Labour bias'”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10358412/Questions-over-BBC-Labour-bias.html
I expect this has been posted, but haven’t got time to look through all the posts.
“BBC Question Time only wants answers from the far left”
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4228/bbc_question_time_only_wants_answers_from_the_very_far_left
BBC/Ed Miliband inspired by Marxism theme again.
A delight to find a free copy of the Guardian on the train home tonight.
Do read it-you`ll find that it comprises much of tomorrows headlines as set up by the BBC.
Well worth a read…tells you all about the BBC/Guardians mindset…”if you want to defeat your enemy. listen to his song and all that”.
Basically, these people are shallow and pissed…and nothing to be scared of whatsoever.
Just learn the song , and repeat it.
In this BBC report concerning failures in the delivery of quality R.E. in schools, guess which religion the BBC chose for the report photo? Yep, it’s that good ol’ religion of peace, again!
LOL! Sorry, guys and gals, wrong bloody link!!!! I don’t watch Ghost Adventures, honestly!!!
Here’s the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24399813
The Muslim school closure is getting undue coverage.
This is not the free school in London but the Al-Madinah, in Derby. True to form the Islamophilic Liebour party has got involved calling on the education secretary to “reassure the public” amid persistent concerns over the school.
Allegations had been made by parents and staff that pupils at Al-Madinah had been told to follow strict Islamic practices.
What did Ofsted close it for ? “Sources have told the BBC the closure was due to incomplete records of child protection checks being done on all staff.”
As expected no one dares upset Liebour brown eyed boys over the extremism of their religion.
This almost certainly would have been a local news story if it had not been for the intervention of Liebour and it broadcaster the BBC.
oops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24417085
Parklife : BBC blurs the race issue
I have been trying to fathom the mentality that lies behind an adult man suddenly taking it into his head to go whipping out his I-phone to snap a photograph of some random passersby in a London park and then posting that pic on his Twitter feed – just because those folks happen to be black.
Is that not a bit…. racist?
https://twitter.com/cumiskey/status/382919566604513281/photo/1
Adam Cumiskey is a supposedly intelligent man – he works for the BBC as a co-editor of Radio 4’s Today programme.
And let’s be clear Adam is a white man. It was our Adam who raised the race issue here…. “Brilliant mix of people working out in Lloyd Park tonight.”
Come on Adam… “mix” We know and you know that we know that you are referring to those peoples’ race.
And “mix”? I don’t think so…. none of the individuals were white. At least one lady however did wear a rather British expression. I mean the lady in a headscarf may have been dark-skinned but her self-conscious air of awkwardness as she glances back toward you and your camera phone is somewhat British. Mind you she has a child in a buggy beside her so exactly what went through her mind just at the moment when some white plonker with a camera pops up beside her in the park and snaps random photos…well who knows?
I can only explain Adam’s odd and slightly dodgy actions as having something to do with his job. Now we all know the BBC Twitter formula ‘Views expressed are nearly mine not BBC’s’ (That’s literally what Adam says at the top of his Twitter account).
But come on, why else post up this sort of thing unless you are making a point? You are attempting to wear your BBC diversity badge loud and proud.
And I’m sorry Adam and your BBC paymaster – I think this sort of thing is a bit racist. And condescending. By the way, is there not some by-law in that park that covers this sort of activity? Did you ask all of those peoples’ permissions?
Apropos of nothing in particular…
I see a red door and I want it painted black
No colours anymore I want them to turn black
I see the girls walk by dressed in their ethnic clothes
I have to turn my I-phone on until my Twitter diversity profile grows
I see a line of people and they’re all looking back
Whatcha taking my photo for are you some kinda sick fuck…?
I see people turn their heads and quickly look away
Like the Radio 4 Today programme it just happens ev’ryday
I look inside myself and see my heart is black
I see my red door and it has been painted black
Maybe then I’ll fade away and not have to face the facts
It’s not easy facing up when your whole world is black
No more will my green sea go turn a deeper blue
I could not forsee this thing happening to you
If I look hard enough into the setting sun
James Naughtie and Evan Davies will laugh with me before the morning comes
‘…a supposedly intelligent man – he works for the BBC’
Easy Tiger. Phew, I see you go on to notice:
‘Views expressed are nearly mine not BBC’s’
Being informed or educated by such a calibre of thinking may worry some. Like his employers, colleagues and maybe even those subjected to his output.
I wouldn’t let such a person near sharp objects, let alone operate dials.
I agree: it is racist to value people according to the color of their skin and not the content of their character. Unfortunately, this racist attitude seems to be engrained in the BBC culture. Bizarrely, it makes them feel good about themselves.
I don t know which was most gaulling
Rageh Omaars, tear squeezing Islamic History of Europe, or his and the al beebs propaganda/fabrication fest about Mohamhead?
Well just like some seafood, you can t keep him down
heeeeee s back! with “The Ottomans” and sadly more nose growing ahem … “Golden Age” al beeb whoppers,
I suspect
Now the BBC s own personal muslim chat show has taken over any semblance of an impartial, genuine faith based issue show on a Sunday morning, you can can
erm ,”reed all abaaaat it” on Sunday Morning Live. at length
along with other Islamic issues, with
– Yvonne Ridley?
– former Mujahideen fighter researcher Usama Hasan?
– Yasmin IaLiar Brown
– hosted by – Samira Ahmed
– produced by Kuljinde Khalia
– Religious Programmes Editor – Aquil Ahmed
on BBC Skype Hotline …
Sheik Muhammed al Husseini
Dr Mustafa Akyol
sadly the Muslim Council Britain couldn t contribute?
(a load off 😀 )
Are Muslims doing enough to prevent radicalisation?
oh and on this issue, no viewers comments? … ow queer?
but the public vote 96% think they are NOT!
and Raggy Omaar gets 10 mins to grandstand
An alternative to INBBC 2’s OMAAR Ottomans:-
“Ottoman Empire and the Armenian Genocide”
http://www.armenian-genocide.org/ottoman.html
Will INBBC report this aspect of Islamisation of Britain?:-
“UK Imams agree to perform underage marriages”
http://www.itv.com/news/2013-10-06/uk-imams-agree-to-perform-underage-marriages/
Meanwhile, Labour’s Blair campaigns to speed up the Islamisation of E.U, and U.K:-
“Tony Blair joins Albania’s campaign to join European Union”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24387295
(-Unmentioned by INBBC/Blair, Albanian’s population is about 60% Muslim.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-24399813
An article where you don’t even need to read beyond the headline to know what the BBC’s agenda is – you only have to look at the image on the top right.
It is possible it was the only one left over from this story?: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21283301
Or maybe they do feel, as they look around the cubicles, that this does represent the nation?
So I went to bed last night after posting how while the Americans had admitted to the fact that they hit Somalia, the bBC to the contrary was still reporting that Al Shabab were saying that the SAS had done it, that they had been repulsed and they had killed 1 officer and wounded 4 others.(So much for the bBC waiting for the facts before posting)
This morning I find that the bBC is now reporting the story (Having removed the inaccurate SAS angle) and are also reporting that the US also hit Libya yesterday and picked up an AL Q leader there. So how does the bBC report this:
1)How much the Libyan government knew about this American counterterrorism operation on its territory is unclear. What is clear is that it will have to face the public in the somewhat awkward position of explaining why and how a Libyan citizen was picked up and taken out of the country so quickly by the Americans. The operation is seen by many here as one that undermines the country’s sovereignty and an already weak central government.
2)a leader of the al-Shabab group was targeted in southern Somalia, but that raid appears to have failed.
3)Al-Shabab told the BBC that “white soldiers” had arrived by boat in Barawe and rebels had repulsed them, losing a fighter.
As usual the bBC defending Terrorists, inside Libya the fledgling government is locked in a battle with AL Q elements who have been going around killing willy nilly (Only friday16 soldiers were killed, ) The average person inside Libya wants normality just like everybody else, but according to the bBC that doesn’t include getting rid of Islamic thugs who wish to impress onto you their way of life (I suppose a little like the bBC with its pro Islamic angles.
The attack on Somalia while it didn’t achive its primary objective (The capture alive of idiot number 1) did achieve the secondary objective of eliminating him . Also one which isn’t factored in, is that the leadership now know nowhere is safe and will like Binladen have to start moving around in which to remain free. (In otherwords life as they knew it has ceased to exist) Al Shabab will now have to spend time and effort in keeping terrorists back from the front line in which to defend their rear bases, at a stroke lessening the effectiveness of their forces on the front line. So contrary to the bBC saying this mission was a failure it was anything but.
Lastly the bBC feels it is acceptable for them to quote non-whites to use the adjectives, ‘Foreigners and white people’ while harmless, when was the last time you saw the bBC allow similar in the west with people being allowed to quote ‘Foreigners’ and Black people’. Exactly the bBC has made a rod for its back by stamping out any forms of racism from its coverage, yet it has no problem looking the overway when the people using such so called Racist terms’ are None white people.
The bBC, the traitors within our Midst
‘So much for the bBC waiting for the facts before posting’
Watertight Oversight, when first coined by Richard Black to refer to selective censorship in guise of responsible source verification (laudable as a notion if applied equally), seems more honoured in the ignoring by the BBC and its 8,000 cubicle warriors awaiting #prasnews advisories from favoured stringers.
Maybe this should be a major factor, FoI non-excluded, in Trust inquiries or Charter Reviews?
What do you know, the bBC openily defends the capture of Islamic terrorists by fearing of a backlash. (Just like they feared for an anti-Islamic backlash after: 9/11,7/7,Madrid,Bali, Attack on Glasgow airport,Grooming gangs, Mumbai, Soldier beheading, Kenya and now……Libya. Gee if I was a dark skinned packy with an Islamic name living in the UK, I don’t know how I would sleep at night, hang on wait..
The bBC, the mouth piece for Islamic terrorism paid for by the British tax payer
Duh-oh, the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24418333
Oh, great, beyond the obvious evident success of bending over and touching toes, there is also an opportunity to tax the public too…
http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/search/unready
What’s not to like for the boys & girls in the gated communities?
Oh heck… any critic of BBC, May or UAF-founder Cameron’s BFF’s better look out if they’re planning a visit anytime soon.
Those ‘communities living in fear’ must be pissing themselves laughing.
Supplementary.
“‘Core’ al Qaeda member captured in Libya”
By THOMAS JOSCELYN.
http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2013/10/core_al_qaeda_member.php
In INBBC’s Ms Jawad’s report on Libya, she says:-
“The operation is seen by many here as one that undermines the country’s sovereignty and an already weak central government.”
Ms Jawad does NOT say:
“The operation is seen by many outside the Islamic world as a blow to those who use Libya as a base for Islamic jihadists responsible for the massacre at the U.S Embassy in Nairobi, 1998”
Excerpt from ‘Age of Terror’ (10 min video),
Islamic jihad massaacre, U.S Embassy, Nairobi, 1998-
The bBC has allowed its guests to make big sounds over the Daily and its Nazi links. The message I get from all these so called qualified speakers is that any link to Naziism is wrong and that anybody whose grandfather had such links is also a nazi and should be ostracised. But what happens when the Person is Black why its a gay parade and this person can in no way hold the views of her forebears unless of course you happen to be white then: Empire,Slavery, Bombing Nazi Germany during the war, dropping an A bomb and Global warming are your fault.
Nazism was undoubtedly evil and vile. So was Marxist/Leninism if only in pure body count terms – if there are any ‘class enemies’ left alive I’m sure that they would confirm this.
1) Why are Marxists, and marxist apoligists for the ‘excesses’ of Communism not treated with the same disgust as Nazis – somepone murdered because of their ideology is just as dead as someone muurdered because of their race.
2) If we accept that ideology is not heredetary (though in the Benn case this is questionable with a 5th generation trying to get into parliament) in the Cade of Miliband – his father was a marxist but he isn’t fair enough. Why is it permissable, then, to paint ther Mail as a Nazi organ. This was 80 years ago. Not one person employed by the mail then is still in their empoly. I am also assuming that Time magazine is Nazi as they had Hitler as their 1938 “man of the year” (Stalin was “man of the year” in 1939 AND 1942). Similarly what about all the leftist apologists for Stalin, smugly concluding that you couldn’t make an omelette without breaking eggs in their editorials in the early 30’s……
PS Glasto selling out in 1 hr 27 mins @ #210 a ticket is the second biggest story of today……. Nothing elitist about that is there……….
The bBC, banning horse derby’s and half the story:
Legal bid to stop Dairycotes Derby in Hull
People attempting to ride horses along a street in Hull during the annual fair week have been warned they face court after a judge granted an injunction. The Dairycotes Derby, run during Hull Fair Week this month, usually sees horses ridden along Hessle Road. But now the city council and Humberside Police have obtained a court order stopping the event. Councillors and police said the event caused disruption to businesses and was a safety concern. City officials are to return to court on 8 October for a further hearing related to the injunction. Hull City Council said although the event had taken place during the fair week, it was not connected to the fair.
So what about the above isn’t the bBC telling you?
Here is how the Hull Daily Mail reports the very same story:
In 2010, hundreds of travellers gathered around the Dairycoates area of west Hull to sell their animals.
Dozens of carts filled the streets as the horses were driven along the flyover. The managing director of one Hessle Road firm said the fair halved his day’s trade each year. The man, who asked not to be named, said: “This is a public road, but the travellers have closed and claimed it.
“It stops us trading as a lot of people are intimidated.”We probably lose half our takings every year on the day.
Another managing director said he had to take preventative action to stop any damage to his business on the day of the fair. This included locking the firm’s gates and relocating 30 members of staff.
I wonder why the bBC left out those very salient snippets???
The bBC, bringing you, half the story all the time
Dear David Preisser (USA) and others who follow US politics,
I draw your attention to one of the most disgraceful reports I have ever heard on the BBC. Log into the current edition of “The World This Weekend” and at around twenty minutes into the programme, you will hear a “view” from Urich Martin about the Federal Govt shutdown in the US.
Boy, I’d love to hear your opinion on this piece of propaganda – but I warn you, sit down in a darkened room before listening.
I’m not surprised at all by this, Louis. It’s the typical one-sided myopia of BBC producers. Once again the same perspective on an issue magically spreads across the spectrum of BBC broadcasting. This was an uninterrupted op-ed, not an interview. Sickening, but typical. If Ted Cruz needs to talk to Newt Gingrich, the President needs to talk to His counterpart as well.
ObamaCare was passed by “Congress”, eh? Passed by Democrats without a single Republican vote (a time when the Dems had a super majority in both chambers, which Mark Mardell once referred to as a “golden age”), and practically all the Republicans elected to the House and Senate since then – including demon-of-the-month, Sen. Cruz – were voted into office in opposition to it. It’s not a stretch to say that the main reason they’re in Congress now is to vote against it, in response to the demand of their constituents. It’s been the “law of the land” (another White House talking point, what a shock) just as the idea that black people counted only as 3/4 of a person was for a long time, as was Prohibition. “Law of the land” is the refuge of scoundrels.
As usual, defenders of the indefensible will be able to say only that I just want to hear my viewpoint instead, when actually I’ve been very consistent in demanding both.
PS: When I went to the TWTW home page, the current segment was a
hatchet jobprofile of Paul Dacre. A purely domestic spat is a world news story? I don’t think even our lurking and non-lurking journalists could support that one. Is it something the world really needs to know, or simply something the BBC felt the world needs to know? Once again an agenda spreads across the spectrum of BBC broadcasting.This was a 15-minute feature early this morning on Radio 4. The point being? Well, to keep the story going, of course.
Right at the end, they had the views of an ex-employee. But what was unique was this person didn’t want to be named and insisted an actor’s voice be used to air her views. And for said views read ‘hatchet job’.
I guess we’ll just have to take the BBC’s word for it that this ex-employee and her views did actually exist and were not a fabrication of the Beeb’s own poisoned imagination.
Can we have a new open thread please?
BTW, are threads deleted when someone else has written about the same topic? The reason I ask is that I can’t find a post I submitted yesterday (nor David’s reply).
Nothing of yours has been deleted, Jeff. It’s still near the top of this page.
This is damning stuff from Terry Wogan…
The 75-year-old broadcaster has told of how he despised Savile and how his horrific legacy of child abuse has “poisoned” the BBC.
He said: “He always struck me as creepy. I’ve talked to people and not one of them has said: ‘I really liked him.’”
The Children in Need host recalled a celebrity lunch with journalists revealing that it was common knowledge in the industry what Savile was up to.
“I was sitting at a table having lunch and Savile was sitting one up from me, and also up from me was Jean Rook (the legendary columnist)
“And Jimmy Savile got up to go to the loo, and she looked across at me and said: ‘When are they going to expose him?’
And I said ‘that’s your job.’ And nobody ever did, even though everyone had heard the rumours.
“This whole Savile thing has poisoned everything.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/terry-wogan-hatred-jimmy-savile-2341936
File on Four worth a listen and quite unusual for the BBC, although it only covers a partial story.
For quite some time I’ve been banging on about the level of taxes levied on gas & electricity, which people don’t seem to want to know about, preferring to take the liebour lead and bash the energy companies who are delivering some of the cheapest prices in Europe despite the tax being levied.
File on 4 concentrates on the effect these horrendous taxes are having on industry, and it appears that some sectors will be eligible for subsidies against the swinging taxes.
The figures might both surprise and frighten you.
Currently the tax accounts for 20% of a commercial bill, for domestic add the VAT and you’re looking around 30% but this is set to double by 2020 and to double again by 2030. All the time blaming the energy companies for the price rises.
It really is the case that they are viewing gas & electric as the next tax cash cow and view it in the same way they view petrol & diesel.
Get ready to shiver because the idiots in power haven’t got the sense they were born with!
There was some good stuff in this programme, including an industry expert saying what a disastrous impact Miliband’s proposed price freeze would have.
However, you were still left with the impression ‘renewables’ are a good thing – so in the case of wind turbines there was lots of talk about how the national grid couldn’t cope when the turbines were at full throttle, and energy suppliers had to be paid to switch them off, but never was the question raised about what we will do for electricity when the wind doesn’t blow. The presenter just couldn’t bring himself to do it – or was under orders not to.
Also, you were given the false impression that governments have been closing down coal and gas-fired power stations because they are past their sell-by date, not because of some evangelical mission to achieve carbon emission targets.
As ever with the BBC, we only get half the story – with the inconvenient half being left out.
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2013-14/bbcprivatisation.html
29 November 2013 will be a day I will be paying attention to parliament.
Hopefully Telegraph, Mail and conservatives are playing this out to push this along.
http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/moving-money.html
‘Increased spending… it’ll rise by 20%, but from what – and more importantly, from where ?’
Shame if it came from the PR ‘special projects’ budget. Those guys doing such a bang up job ‘n all.
Anyway, with any actually used for programming, at least we now have ‘Atlantis’.
While the BBC continues the Narrative that the government shutdown is damaging the country all because of hyper-partisan, intransigent Republicans bent on national suicide rather than
submissioncompromise, here’s yet another example of how classy our Community Organizer-in-Chief is:Unbelievable: Police prevent drivers from pulling over and viewing Mt. Rushmore
And a curious silence from the BBC Twitterati. Imagine if a President Romney or Palin had done this sort of thing. Mardell would be seething with rage on Today and the BBC News Channel, and Daniel Nasaw wouldn’t be able to find the space on the website to keep up with the demand for “bespoke” video magazine pieces. Yet while they find news value in these issues, they cannot bring themselves to report the pure political theater the President is ordering. If you’re going to report that one side is doing grandstanding and all that, dear lurking and non-lurking journalists, you’d better report on what the other side is doing as well. Especially if it’s this kind of thing, to which the shutdown has zero relevance (it never costs the federal government anything for people on a public highway to stop and look at a mountain in the distance), ordered from the White House. This is deliberate psy-ops, infringing on the public for purely political reasons. And you don’t think it’s worth reporting? It’s not bias to report this: it’s fact. Stop protecting the leader of a foreign country already.
You don’t half talk bollocks, Preiser. National parks are closed – that’s been reported by the BBC on numerous occasions. But hey! Somebody’s blog has posted a photo and blamed Obama directly! That’s good enough for the man who wants so hard to be treated as an authority on US politics, but can only do so by hanging out in a forum full of idiots, racists and bigots who know nothing about anything, but insist that they must be right anyway.
Still, as long as you’re on here all the time, there’s a location in the US spared human interaction with you. Small mercies and all that.
Stop pretending I’m talking about something else, Scott. Blocking of part of a road so that people can’t see a national monument from a distance is not the same thing as closing the monument. And it doesn’t happen on its own, so stop pretending that they appeared out of thin air on the wings of magic pixies. Bringing in barricades where none existed is over the top, and is actually spending money when they’re supposedly shutting it down because there isn’t any. I’ve previously posted more than one direct quote from NPS staff saying they got orders from on high. This is all over the non-Left news. Stop pretending this isn’t happening.
Your continued ad hominem attacks are proof that not only that you are unable to address the facts but that you have some personal animosity towards me which prevents reasoned debate. You constantly claim intellectual and moral superiority to me and everyone here, and it’s about time you started demonstrating it.
ignore Scott, he’s just a closet hetrosexual
Actually Scott is a little brain dead. Due to the battering he’s received around the ring during his boxing phase. (That’s packing eggs down at the local chicken factory)
FFS Grow up.
In what way is that a critique of what Scott has written? So what if he is gay, lots of people are you know.
This and Pounce with his crude arse-based humour (although I must say I did laugh at his volcanic and protracted obscene ranting a week or so ago at Albaman) add nothing to the debate and just about single handedly destroys any credibility that this site has.
I disagree with Scott profoundly but not because he is gay.
Oh please, yet another clone, are you sure you aren’t that twat who bitched about Alan Suger and his so called racist joke.
Scott wrote:
but can only do so by hanging out in a forum full of idiots, racists and bigots who know nothing about anything, but insist that they must be right anyway.
Just asking Scott, but seeing as you spend so much time over here, do you include yourself in that encapsulation?
Out to Scott, I remembered that you are a huge DW fan. You probably know this already, but go onto google maps, go to Earls Court, outside the tube station is a blue Police box, go inside.
Can you give examples when I’ve been a racist or a bigot, please, Scott, as I’m a regular contributor to this site who presumably is included in your flailing rant? And as for the ‘idiot’ bit, a tad more engagement with the debate and a few less ad hominems might help your cause.
While Scott pretends this doesn’t exist, here’s more on the story:
Rushmore blockage stirs anger in S.D.
Barring visitors from view an unexpected effect of shutdown
Please note that I’m not blaming the President for the clouds, though.
The National Park Service placed cones along highway viewing areas outside Mount Rushmore this week, barring visitors from pulling over and taking pictures of the famed monument.
The cones first went up Oct. 1, said Dusty Johnson, Gov. Dennis Daugaard’s chief of staff. The state asked that they be taken down, and federal officials did so with some of them. The state was told the cones were a safety precaution to help channel cars into viewing areas rather than to bar their entrance.
This is more than closing the park. This is infringing on personal freedom outside the park, done by the National Park Service. Not to mention that this is the federal government spending money to block public view of it when they supposedly don’t have any to keep the monument open, just like with the WWII monument and other DC monuments where the cops are hauling people away.
The State of South Dakota apparently offered to fund the monument temporarily to keep it open, let tourists come in, and pay furloughed parks employees. The federal government said no thanks. Extra-legal political theater, brought to you by the Community Organizer-in-Chief. How’s that hopey-changey stuff workin’ out for ya now, BBC?
It’s interesting how the BBC is playing this capture, by US military on foreign soild, of ‘suspected’ terrorist (the BBC puts it no higher than that) Anas al-Liby.
How long before the BBC lionises Mr Obama as having bravely sent these troops into Libya to get this guy ?
However, one question the BBC has NOT asked yet, that I can see…. just what the heck are they going to do with him ?
Gitmo ? – but surely not if Mr Obama is hell-bent on closing it within a year of his being first elected to the office of POTUS (oh, wait a minute….); some maximum security prison in an Eastern Seaboard State so beloved of the Democrats, who are so willing to house terrorist suspects who may have their mates turn up to try to get him out ?…. (oh, wait a minute…..) the remote island ‘birthplace’ of Mr Obama, Hawaii ?…. (now just hold on there a second….) his political alma mater city of Chicago ?…errrrrrr….
So, I repeat, what are they going to do with this guy ? It’ll be fun to see how this gets spun.
After all, hasn’t Mr Kerry just announced that the US would never never stop “in its effort to hold those accountable who conduct acts of terror” ?
Holding them accountable means trials (if they are alive…. and of what type ? Military or civilian, where and when ? Anyone else remember when Mr Obama tried to move Gitmo resisdents to the mainland to stand trial in civilain courts – and the amazing rush of Democrat politicians to house these trials in their own constituences ?…..oh, wait a minute…
Not only that, but the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate-in-Chief sent a team of Navy SEALS into Somalia to try and get one of the leaders of the mass murders in that mall in Kenya. I thought He was elected because everyone was tired of the US being the world’s policeman? Where’s Mardell’s scolding tongue now? Gavin Hewitt told us recently that the President was reluctant to play the role. I guess if it’s done one assassination at a time it’s no problem, international law be damned. That attack had nothing to do with the US or US interests or anything of the sort, yet here we are invading yet another country on yet another covert assassination mission. This time, though, the Mohammedan killers got wind of it and sent reinforcements so no new notch in that Nobel this time.
Remember when BBC analysts used to be critical of this sort of thing, lamenting that it was causing the US and UK to lose the battle for hearts and minds in the Muslim world? Ah, good times…..good times……
Oh for f***s sake….The militant left no doubt spurred on by their beloved BBC attack the Daily Mail offices..
I did try and converse with yet another SWP front “The peoples assembly”, but as ever and are we surprised, no opposing comments are tolerated…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-24421453
Not even Liebour grandees are safe from the bullying idiocy! Perhaps this might serve as a wake up call but somehow I doubt it.
Of course, the revealing piece of information here is that… “The communication has been examined by the force’s specialist hate crime investigation team and at this time it has been recorded as a hate incident and no criminal offences have taken place.”
…they have a special hate crime investigation team. If no criminal offences were commited, then why has it been logged as a hate incident? Shouldn’t it be logged as a ‘wasting of police time’ incident and the complainant charged? 🙂
Racism is in the eye of the beholder. If someone, particularly of darker hue, thinks it is racist then it IS racist, and thus a hate incident. Even if everyone is innocent.
Now doesn’t that make you feel safer in your bed at night?
‘Now doesn’t that make you feel safer in your bed at night?’
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Only the black Zil brigade.
And those who know that they only have to call to tell them how high to leap.
‘Twas all the rage in Salem a few centuries ago.
But then, it wasn’t a different time.
This is classed as a hate incident?
But the BBC’s favourite Question time guest calling us non-Muslims ‘kaffirs’ and ‘animals’ isn’t? But then I guess bigotry is a one-way street.
Funny old world eh, Scott? (And something tells me it’s going to get even funnier.)
I notice that the BBC didn’t show the picture. For those who haven’t seen it, this is what the humourless cow was moaning about – it certainly made me chuckle.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2446088/Lord-Sugar-faced-police-racism-probe-joking-Twitter-crying-Chinese-boy-upset-told-leaving-production-line-iPhone-5.html
Andrew Marr taking the piss on behalf of the BBC.
Terrorists
What happened there ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03d4yp2/The_Andrew_Marr_Show_06_10_2013/?t=49m55s
‘Terrorists, as we call them at the BBC’.
Ha ha ha. I bet relatives of the Nairobi victims find that so funny.
Tosser.
The BBC’s latest love-letter to Islam on BBC2 is touching…
Yes; Muslim Rageh Omaar gets first call to do any INBBC TV series relating to Islam, as with the Ottomans.
An alternative version, censored by INBBC:-
“Ankara’s Unacknowledged Genocide.
Turkey, Past and Future.”
by Efraim Karsh.
[Concluding excerpt]:-
“Few crimes against humanity have been so widely and so comprehensively ignored as the Ottoman Empire’s ethnic cleansing of its Armenian population during World War I.
“Mesmerized by the myth of a benevolent Ottoman colonialism (in stark contrast to their scathing indictment of the Western colonial legacy), Western scholars and intellectuals have turned a blind eye to the overwhelming body of evidence of Ottoman genocidal intentions and practices. For their part, Western politicians and leaders were loath to bring the Armenian skeleton out of the closet given Turkey’s position as an important anti-Soviet bastion and an alluring bridge to the Muslim Middle East. And while the end of the Cold War has increased Western propensity to address the issue—in 2005 the European parliament conditioned Turkey’s accession to the European Union on its recognition of the Armenian genocide—Ankara has remained as defiant as ever.”
http://www.meforum.org/3429/ankara-unacknowledged-genocide
Apologies if this has been brought up before but has anyone ever stumbled across the Digital Spy forums?
It seems to be a love in for Beeboids, anyone that dare question any bbc output, the licence fee in particular they are shot down in flames using the usual lefty aggressive attack dog tactics.
Being an involuntary Radio 2 listener by day, the site is used by them (namely Steve Wright) as a reference point for ‘celeb’ gossip. The site makes interesting viewing as its invariably the same posters who are the attack dogs and will almost immediately react to any anti bbc posts no matter what time of the day of night. There seems an obvious connection to the bbc and shades of the bbc forums.
Folks. You may be interested to know that there’s a survey about BBC news and current affairs. I’m busy completing it now – as fairly as I can.
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http://consultations.external.bbc.co.uk/bbc/news_review
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can’t remember where it was linked from on the site
However fairly you fill it out (I have already), there is the small niggle that it is, of course, again, a BBC on BBC exercise.
Given their tendency to ignore, forget or ‘lose’ anything that doesn’t suit, can there be much doubt that what does will see the light of day and what doesn’t will probably not find there is room for.
‘The BBC Trust works on behalf of licence fee payers to ensure that the BBC provides high quality services and good value for everyone in the UK
As Pollard and the PAC Inquiries showed, such ‘work’ is hardly effective.
But tell it often enough and some may believe it still.
Two questions
Why do the BBC get a journalist and not a historian to present their Ottoman extravaganza?
Why does Rageh Omaar insist on the pronunciation Isss-larm?
Asiseeit wrote:
“Why does Rageh Omaar insist on the pronunciation Isss-larm?”
Have you ever flown, have you noticed just how many passengers retain their baggage stubs in which to say:
“Look I’m well travelled”
Its the same with naming things, the bBC idiots are quite adapt at this, in fact they even ran a series a while ago teaching you how to pronounce mainly ‘Islamic’ nouns. But for some strange reason they haven’t got round to naming :
Koln, München or even copying the hissing way that Muslims pronounce…Isssssreal yet.
Its their way of saying, I’ve been there, read the book, killed the cast and uttered ‘Allah ackba’ while doing it.
For the same reason they use Mo Farrah as a British sporting hero….
I hear Nicky Campbell (former Olympics Gamesmaker) is busy bigging up the Glasgow Commonwealth Games Makers
Aye, see you Jimmy….
Oh sorry the BBC can’t seem to find a friendly keen volunteering Glaswegian – so instead they bring in a female journalism student with a trans-Atlantic accent.
Pure puff for the upcoming BBC televised but expensively irrelevent sports day
When I woke this morning and put on “Today” there were so many Muslem ladies about, I thought I had the wrong channel.
Came back from my ablutions a little while later, and it had started again.
Turned off in despair.
BBC radio stations wetting themselves this morning giving max coverage to dear Malala’s pronouncement that we just need to talk to the Taleban.
Meanwhile those reasonable chaps bomb people seeking to encourage polio vaccination in the hell hole of the Taleban’s making
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24425441
(the folk bombed are described by the BBC as “anti-polio campaigners” – makes them sound almost sinister)
PS Does the BBC report lead one to the thought that the Taleban’s objection to polio vaccination is all Amerika’s fault? From the link above :-
A fake hepatitis vaccination campaign, run covertly by the CIA, helped to locate al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden in 2011. He was then killed in an operation by US Navy Seals.
Since the article doesn’t make it clear that the Taliban had been opposing immunisation in Pakistan long before Bin Laden’s death, I think you’re right. Also, the the statement is misleading. The Americans had already located Bin Laden. The fake hepatitis campaign was an attempt to gain absolute confirmation that the man in the building was Bin Laden.
Ah yes, the pen is mightier than the sword huh?
How can you reason with savage barbarians?
Savages who would kill because allah oppresses women.
I smell an imminent Nobel peace prize, yet another faux prize.
It seems that Linda Yueh is treading the same path as Stephanie Flanders at the BBC.
“Here’s a look behind the scenes as to what a correspondent gets up to.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24421618
Yep,she thinks that she is the news!
Radio 4 – a new Toady rears its head?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2448411/I-told-Id-wear-hijab-I-said-I-dont-think-Today-programmes-Muslim-presenter-wont-wear-veil.html
and thank goodness she s a “moderate”
aloha snackbar to that
yep! THIS Mishal Hussein?
That woman is a fool & a disgrace!