427 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD….

  1. Fred Bloggs says:

    10:45am Parliament. Kate Hoey has just asked how Patten can refuse to come before a committee about bBC bias. Even Bercow said it was unacceptable. They should say he sacked himself for not being accountable for the bBC.

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  2. Sceptical scientist says:

    Anyone hear “Thought for the Day” yesterday. As usual the religious element was hard to discern. Apparently the Iran nuclear deal was mainly due to the efforts of that secular EU saint – Baroness Ashton,

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    • Umbongo says:

      The first lesson I learned in business – and I guess it applies to politics and diplomacy too – is that you can always get a happy customer/supplier by giving him more or less everything he wants: so with Baroness Ashton (and Kerry and Hague) vis-a-vis the Iranian foreign minister, Mohammad Javad Zarif. Oddly the misery in Iran after this ball-cracking deal was agreed was marked by rejoicing in Tehran: an unusual reaction unless it is a peculiarity of Iranian or Islamic culture to celebrate a tragedy and mourn when you’re happy.
      I think – contra the BBC/Guardian commentariat, Peter Oborne in the Telegraph and antisemites anti-Israel commentators everywhere – that this was a 6-month giveaway to be followed by a permanenet giveaway in 2014. Ashton is as good as a “negotiator” as she would be as a model for Chanel.

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      • John Anderson says:

        As an older guy with I hope some perspective on relations with the Mullah state of Iran, I would agree with the many commentators especially in the US who see the deal with Iran as total appeasement and the most dangerous foreign policy risk for decades. None of this sense of foreboding infects any of the BBC reports.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Whoops, possible sectarian conflict there. Others at the BBC told us it was the wonderful Nobel Peace Prize Laureate-in-Chief who stopped evil Israel from dragging us into another war.

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    • George R says:

      “IRAN EXECUTES FOUR ‘ENEMIES OF ALLAH'”

      Excerpt:-

      “In January, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton called on Iran to halt the execution of Ahwazi Arab activists.”

      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/12/iran-executes-four-enemies-of-allah.html

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      • Stewart says:

        Will Britain’s leading theologian, David Camaron, be telling us ( via the ministry of truth of course ) that this has nothing to do with Islam I wonder?

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  3. #88 says:

    I’ve just heard a competent and reassuring statement from the Chancellor and watched Balls really struggling to respond.

    I suspect though that the BBCs filter will make today’s proceedings feel very different – stand by for the Peston, Toenails and Norman Smith rebuttal team

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    • John Anderson says:

      Toenails gave his contribution to Radio 4 News at One. Somehow he failed to mention that Osborne wiped the floor with Ed Balls.

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      • #88 says:

        Yes and the BBC woman doing the interviews at the Trafford Centre only had three things on her mind;

        Cost of Living
        Cost of Living
        Cost of Living

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        • chrisH says:

          And her Nandos condiments too.
          Trafford Centre seems to do well out of BBC blowhards on the lam, so I undertand…albeit at the end of the months when the Savile Premium starts to go all sad on them….

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          • nofanofpoliticians says:

            Highly biased analysis appearing online right now

            http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25238747

            They really should be ashamed. No attempt at impartiality at all.

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            • #88 says:

              Well spotted ‘nofan’.

              I had to pinch myself to remind me that this (below) was from the BBC’s Iain Watson and not straight from an Ed Balls briefing.

              ‘Never mind that the chancellor has missed his own debt target. Or that he is taking longer to clear the structural deficit than he originally anticipated.’

              Perhaps Watson could have provided a bit of balance there, a bit of analysis, an alternative perspective, or have the Eurozone crises that blew everything off course, been erased from memory (in the same way that 1997-2010 has)?

              Unacceptable bias.

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  4. lynette says:

    Did anyone report on the Newsnight 8 minute film in which a BBC reporter accompanied a British “aid convoy” headed to the most dangerous parts of Syria. Aid for Syria Convoy is, in fact, managed by charities that many might justifiably regard as “extremist”: One Nation, Al Fatiha Global and Aid4Syria.

    These charities regularly organize fundraising events with Islamist themes, and invite radical preachers as guests. In mid-November, for instance, the Aid for Syria convoy ran an event named “O’Ummah [Community of Muslims], Wake Up and Rise”, starring as its key speakers, Zahir Mahmood and Moazzam Begg.
    read the full article BBC plugs Jihadi charities at http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4077/bbc-syria-charities

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  5. AsISeeIt says:

    Emergency Appeal

    The BBC News Channel are about to run out of superlatives with which to describe the weather.

    The Red Cross plan to start shipping in truckloads of ‘incredibles’, handing out emergency parcels filled with ‘huge, huge impacts’ and some ‘chaos’ with which to raise spirits at the BBC.

    However a special airlift will be needed to bring in the desperately required supplies of ‘the worst we’ve ever seen’

    If you would like to help a meteorologically and thesaurus-ly challenged Beeboid, do send all the mobile phone footage of your experience of the wind that you can afford.

    And remember to mark your donation ‘the worst I have ever seen’.

    They will thank you for it.

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  6. Llareggub says:

    I see St Nelson is ‘not doing well in bed’. The end could be approaching and teams of BBC reporters will have to fly to South Africa to cover the mourning. Wait for the eulogies from Comrades Ken, Diane, and the Blessed Mrs Laurence. Maybe this is not important, but I could not help thinking that the head and the rest of the great man do not belong in the same photograph. Has a new head been inserted?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25214805

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    • chrisH says:

      Imagine Those preening poseurs making shapes in front of the poor old souls shaving mirrors.
      The staff at his hospital won`t be able to get in or to park, what with collected Beeboids catching up on their Cape Capers…came home a bit flat last time didn`t they?
      Somebody tell his team not to accept greetings or sweets of solidarity bearing the Mid-Staffs logo…BBC too mean to pay for their own flowers personally…but what scope for grave hopping and seeing if his coffin(Lieback 3000?) will be as good as Jackos, Little Richards, James Browns or dear Amys!
      Hope Jade Goode is blowing gag ash up their fundaments!

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  7. John Anderson says:

    Panicky reports from Scotland included “tree fell on car”. High winds and snow in Scotland in December – who’d have thought it !

    Lord knows how crazy they will go if there really serious problems from the North Sea surge – which is genuinely serious, the worst for 60 years, apparently. But they can hardly blame it on global warming – there wasn’t any ofr that 60 years ago !

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    • ember2013 says:

      Anyone else see BBC News report an outlier wind speed of 100mph in Scotland? They should really present averages across regions, not try to scare people in the UK with such figures. It’s just hyperbole now with the BBC. Scare everyone into paying higher green taxes.

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  8. johnnythefish says:

    The business news on the Today programme at 6.15 this morning featured a three-way interview speculating about the Chancellor’s Autumn Statement.

    So we had some neutral city economist wallah, the Simpson shoe chain chap and Jonathan Portes.

    Still being somewhat drowsy, I didn’t catch how Portes was introduced but he is in fact head of the National Institute of Economic and Social Research, a fanatically Keynesian think-tank.

    So coincidentally, his views on Osborne’s Plan A tend to match those of Ed Balls, so we had a diatribe on how the Chancellor had got it all wrong and he should have been using a fiscal stimulus not austerity to encourage the ‘recovery which was underway in 2010’, how it shouldn’t have taken 3 years to get growth back, how Osborne shouldn’t be wasting money on tax breaks for married couples or ‘free meals for middle class kids’.

    Just like listening to Balls, just another Labour propaganda piece, with not a challenge from the BBC interviewer over what is effectively a discredited Plan B. Sheer bias, dressed up as impartial analysis. Bastards.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Harding of course meant holding others accountable. The old “Let’s see how we can $%^& the government today and speak truth to power” routine. Nothing new there.

      Why this gossip columnist thinks Paul Mason is respectable is beyond me.

      Having said that, I honestly fail to understand why that late letter from “Hugs” Boaden is such a game-changer. Pollard should have included it, okay, but what else does it change? If the whole credibility of Thompson’s story is that he remembers their convo differently, its just he said/she said. With the addition of Boaden’s letter, isn’t it just he said/she said/she said again? Why would repeating her story make it more credible? I wouldn’t believe her no matter how many letters her lawyers sent. I don’t believe Thompson either, for that matter. I think they’re all lying.

      Alternatively, I suppose it could be that Pollard’s review was always going to be a sham anyway, and he figured this later wouldn’t change that, so didn’t bother with it.

      They all knew, they all allowed the Savile special to go through while spiking Newsnight’s piece, and they all lied about it afterward. After that it was just different levels of ass-covering.

      If Pollard thinks she’s lied to him anyway, another letter wouldn’t change his mind. But really, rather than the omission of this one letter being the thing that discredits Pollard’s report, surely it should instead be the fact that there were no serious consequences from the whole thing. Steerpike at least grasps this. Entwistle’s scalp had already been taken, Stephen Mitchell was allowed to stay for six months and “retire” on full whack, Boaden was shifted sideways with and equally fat paycheck and still sits on the Board, and everyone else responsible for Savile and McAlpine are still in place. Except for poor Peter Rippon, that is, who got sent to the basement to refile the video tapes or something. He’s looking better and better all the time, really. And all this does seem to indicate that the Pollard report was always intended to be a Sir Humphrey Appleby-style internal investigation.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘..the Pollard report was always intended to be a Sir Humphrey Appleby-style internal investigation.’
        Bargain at just £3M to the hapless licence-fee compellee on such grounds.
        Though some might feel such amounts on a deliberate waste vs. an ineptitude-based one could be the straw that breaks the back of some treasured statuses.

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  9. DickMart says:

    One of the (very few!) arguments for having a state broadcasting organisation is that it would give priority to important news that entirely commercially-driven media companies might ignore. There was perhaps some substance in that in the early days of the BBC.

    No longer.

    Oceans of coverage on the private lives of an Olympic diver and celebrity chef. Virtually zilch on the nuns and the orphans in their care abducted in Syria.

    See http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/

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    • George R says:

      Yes.

      “Syria: Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch says Muslims killed three Christians for refusing to convert to Islam”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/syria-melkite-greek-catholic-patriarch-says-muslims-killed-three-christians-for-refusing-to-convert-.html

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    • Dave s says:

      Christians, especially non European ones, are of little interest to the liberal ascendancy. Sillly little people who are way out of date. Not like the vibrant Muslims at all.
      It will be the same if there is an outbreak of murder and genocide in South Africa when Mandela dies. Justy nasty old whites getting their just deserts.
      Nigella Lawson and this athlete are the acceptable face of the news that the liberal media allows to be seen or printed.

      At the core of liberalism is a monstrous lack of humanity. It is the end result of a people who lack any faith in anything even themselves. Their day must pass or the West is finished.

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  10. flexdream says:

    The BBC isn’t interested in Christianity unless it’s to do with homosexuality, women bishops, Catholic abuse scandals or attacks on Government policy. Among items ignored – the contrast between the life of Christian Arabs in Palestine and Israel
    “Ibrahim said he left [Palestinian] Nazareth 14 years ago for the nearby Jewish city of Upper Nazareth — and has never looked back.

    Ibrahim said his new Jewish neighbors in Upper Nazareth are very friendly, as long as he doesn’t discuss politics with them.”
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/nazareths-dwindling-christian-populace-torn-between-moving-out-fighting-back/

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    • chrisH says:

      Have a listen to “The Blaggers Guide to Bob Dylan” that was on Radio 2 the other night.
      THAT is how the liberal lefty weekend rebels there at the BBC(and-of course “Unique Productions”, who allow the BBC to claim it`s “nothing to do with them”). The Ross Brand Defence as these chess poseurs would have us believe..
      It`s on at the end of the show(50+ mins in!).
      Think these people stick the boot into Christ when it`s late, and no-one listens except their own “evangelists in conversion”to the Dark Lords-written by Russell-Brand Teabaggers” Davies, as far as I can tell.
      BBCs gaffes-BBCs rules…and radio seem nastier even than telly when no-ones about!

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  11. Guest Who says:

    I am subscribed to a few BBC FaceBook pages, hoping mainly for news.
    But currently there does seem somewhat of a singular focus there as to what is ‘newsworthy’ given what is offered up.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25142557?ocid=socialflow_facebook_newsmagazine
    Maybe it’s a phase?
    Still, Alan at his most forensic is now looking pretty good on length of article in comparison.
    If there were comments allowed, one might only imagine what such a piece may have garnered (a few on the FB page were… pithy… as to what the BBC seemed obsessed with these days).

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  12. TigerOC says:

    BBC West Country News 1pm;

    The Royal Marine Sgt that murdered the wounded Taliban insurgent is named……………….

    Yes that’s correct! This is our national broadcaster taking an internationalist view on the World. The enemies of our State are in BBC terms are downgraded.
    You should be ashamed when you use the word British in your name BBC.

    Traitors in our midst!

    Perhaps the squadie from Salford has also had enough and was planning to level the playing fields.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    An odd one that may still suit David’s twitter list?
    As the howls of free-speech bannings continue to echo (apparently rather oddly, and logic-free, post-banning still on their pages) across private forums, we can at least be assured the BBC is a champion of all views, always, showing neither fear nor favour.
    http://order-order.com/2013/12/05/five-live-censor-tim-montgomerie-for-bbc-criticism/
    Well, unless they don’t like ’em.
    Shame my ‘Future of the BBC’ submission has already been sent.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      That’s evidence of the widespread venality and defensiveness at the BBC, not sure about the Left-wing groupthink.

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘That’s evidence of the widespread venality and defensiveness at the BBC’
        Okey-doke:)
        Still not sure the first especially is optimal for a national broadcaster, tho.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          Definitely not. It’ll be the fault of those “enemies waiting to pounce” putting undue pressure on the poor lambs, though. Nothing to do with BBC culture or hiring standards.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      “The deeply unpleasant Radio 5 presenter…”

      A tautology.

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    • Milverton says:

      Although we hear appalling examples of bias from around the BBC, Five Live are the absolute nadir.

      Labour talking points are entwined deep in their DNA from first thing in the morning with (often) Andy Verity and Wake Up To Money, through Campbell and Burden, on to Derbyshire, Fogerty and Bacon, and rounding off with Peter Allen and this bitch. Some brave MP should do some research and ask some questions in the house.

      The only non-sports show worth listening to is Rhod Sharp. The rest is cultural Marxism in action.

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      • will says:

        And Rhod is very left leaning – but professional, his part of the week being infinitely better than the race baiting blather of Dotun Adebayo.

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  14. DB says:

    Last month a number of major news organisations sent a letter to White House press secretary Jay Carney protesting the increasing restriction on press access to official events by the Obama administration. The BBC didn’t join the protest.

    NB Katty Kay wrote a book with Jay Carney’s wife.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Not only did the BBC not join the protest, they haven’t even reported its existence. As usual, people here are better informed about US issues than those who rely on the world’s largest and “most trusted” news organization.

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  15. Teddy Bear says:

    The BBC aims double its global audience to 500 million people in the next decade to be available “everywhere, for everyone”, the director of news has said, as he urges staff not to be cowed by criticism it is “too big”.

    Question is, does that have any importance to the licence fee payer who has to fund their hegemony?
    I don’t recall their charter requiring them to do what they can to expand into world media domination, as much as serve the people paying for it. But we have recognised for a long time how the output of BBC news is biased to keep as many countries as possible onside so the BBC can keep their offices there, particularly the more extremist Islamic countries and other despots.

    Doesn’t serve our values or the need for information relevant to our society though.

    All the more reason to privatise them and let them get the 500 million they want to reach to pay for their output then.

    Watching them fall screaming to their financial death would be justice indeed. Show them once and for all how little they understand the unprotected real world, instead of the bubble they’ve been living in.

    Telling staff that “81 per cent of people in this country come to us for the news”, he added: ” I defy you to find any news organisation in the world that is doing as much and as well as the BBC.”

    So why are they so worried about being privatised?

    BBC news defies criticism it is ‘too big’ with pledge to double its global audience

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  16. Teddy Bear says:

    Here’s a story that shows just how the executives at the BBC are so used to ignoring just who they’re working for.

    We’ve had a few well known names recently criticize the BBC for one thing or the other. Now the BBC hierarchy want to stop any others from doing likewise. The only thing is, the BBC is owned by the public, it is not a private company. It is not the BBC that pays them well, but the public purse, and most people would agree they are paid way too much.

    But the BBC act like this money comes out of their purse, and they should be able to control who can speak about it, especially in a negative way.

    The Ministry of Thought.

    Well-paid BBC bashing stars should stop criticising corporation in public because it ‘damages staff morale’, top director says

    Danny Cohen: ‘staff who go public with their concerns undermine morale’
    David Dimbleby and actress Jennifer Saunders have been publicly criticised
    Mr Cohen refused to give names, but insiders say he was ‘incensed’

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    • #88 says:

      ‘Don’t bash the BBC…it damages staff morale’

      Yet the BBC does its best to damage the nation’s morale.

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  17. Llareggub says:

    For those who may have missed it on the BBC news here is the latest update on the trial of the Woolwich two, from the Manchester Evening News, which must be available to BBCers in Salford. Read the transcript and wonder if there is just one MP who will ask Cameron and Clegg if they still insist that it has nothing to do with Islam.

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/live-trial-two-men-accused-6374224

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  18. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Big fast-food workers’ strike over raising the minimum wage in the US today, and naturally he BBC is all over it. It’s an issue the BBC supports, so we get photos and lots of activist quotes. There’s one line from the National Restaurant Association about how this is probably a union-instigated deal. Did the BBC investigate that? No they did not. Did the BBC provide space for any voices concerned about the harm to businesses caused by excessively high minimum wage? No they did not. Did they cite an example of an heroic town where they raised the minimum wage to more than a BBC junior researcher earns? You bet they did. Did the BBC tell you The Obamessiah was in favor of raising the minimum wage, as was the Democrat-controlled Senate? Of course. Did the BBC tell you the evil Republicans in the House would block it? You bet they did.

    How many people were there in the NYC protest the BBC covered with several photos and videos? About 100. In stark contrast to how they handle protests about issues they don’t like.

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    • DB says:

      But the minimum wage at SeaTac is an inspiration, David. New York BBC business reporter Kim Gittleson says so:

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        But of course. Jesus. One more for the list. She must be the New York BBC “It’s All Kicking Off” reporter. Is there anyone at the BBC – anywhere, in any department – with anything to do with business or economics who isn’t a Left-wing ideologue?

        When Robert Peston is your most conservative figure, you’re not doing it properly.

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        • DB says:

          “Is there anyone at the BBC – anywhere, in any department – with anything to do with business or economics who isn’t a Left-wing ideologue?”

          Twitter says no.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Here’s a list gleaned from Wikipedia. It’s not completely up to date, as Paul Mason is still listed, and Peston is still listed as Business editor and Economics editor is still listed as vacant.

            International:
            Michelle Fleury – US
            Samira Hussain – US
            Mariko Oi – US/East Asia
            Mark Sanders – Europe
            Yogita Limaye – India
            Sameer Hashmi – India
            Sharanjit Leyl – Singapore

            Domestic:
            Robert Peston
            Jonty Bloom
            Simon Gompertz
            Joe Lynam
            John Moylan
            Rob Pittam
            Emma Simpson

            Thankfully, some of these appear to use Twitter in a professional manner. So far, those who do express opinions, well…..

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              I see Rob Pittam has left the BBC and now runs Robin Hood Media in Nottingham. His company produces…..BBC Midlands Sunday Politics.

              Very cozy.

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              • Stewart says:

                It was either that or go on PAYE I suspect
                No bourgeois Fauxcialist expects to fund the state he endorses.
                You have proof aplenty of that in your homeland courtesy of obamacare.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              I left out Dominic Laurie of 5Live, whose ideology can be seen on the “In Their Own Tweets” page.

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  19. Alex says:

    Utterly pathetic censorship and bias on tonight’s news regarding the impressive news on growth in the economy. Labour and especially Balls, were destroyed and made total mockery of in PM’s Questions, today, but you wouldn’t know this based on the BBC’s extensive editing techniques. labour have zero credibility on anything, let alone the economy and immigration, and yet the lefty luvvies at the BBC just keep on pushing out left-wing propaganda. Disgraceful. Scrap the TV License now and do away with this socialist advertising mafia.

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  20. Teddy Bear says:

    Douglas Murray has an excellent article at the Spectator:
    This is Britain: a crackdown on Islamic extremism will not cause attacks on Muslims

    As a result of a government task force finding concerning Tackling Extremism in the UK, we are told

    We have been too reticent about challenging extreme Islamist ideologies in the past, in part because of a misplaced concern that attacking Islamist extremism equates to an attack on Islam itself…
    To which Douglas asks
    Who could possibly remain opposed to such prevailing common sense?

    I know for most on this site it’s a rhetorical question.

    But let’s play along, now who has been most responsible for promoting the idea that anybody who attacks, or even debates the radical Islamic mindset equates to an attack on all Muslims?

    While Douglas refers in his article to the Independent, I don’t think that they have enough coverage to have swayed enough of the public. But then there is the BBC, the ones that interpret independent as being like the newspaper of that name.

    The Ministry of Thought.

    Just looking at the BBC most recent article concerning Tell Mama, (mentioned in Douglas’s article,) there is no mention of the scandal of blown up figures (no pun intended) that they were involved in following Lee Rigby’s murder, nor loss of government funding as a result.

    Does anybody know of ANY instance where if the BBC were going after somebody deemed against their agenda that they wouldn’t have done this?

    Needless to say, there is no reference on the BBC website about this ‘Tackling Extremism in the UK’ task force.

    So it’s clear just who is largely responsible for promoting the idea that we mustn’t tackle extremism.

    It might affect the BBC reaching their target audience of 500 million worldwide to do so, and we know what’s more important for the BBC.

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    • zoo keeper says:

      “But let’s play along, now who has been most responsible for promoting the idea that anybody who attacks, or even debates the radical Islamic mindset equates to an attack on all Muslims?”

      Albabum, Queen Scott and Dezmong

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    • DB says:

      Thousands of UK jihadists have joined the fight on behalf of totalitarian Islam, from Afghanistan and Syria to Libya, Somalia and beyond. All that pro-Islamic propaganda we’ve endured from successive governments and the BBC since 9/11 obviously did the trick.

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    • Chris says:

      The frustrating thing about the whole Islam issue is that they are egged on, defended and excused by Marxist socialists.
      Everyone should be forced to read Marxism at school and shown exactly how evil and sinister these people are. Fundamentally the Labour party want to destroy the UK and all its institutions- this is not hyperbole; its in their beliefs and its all written down.
      Do you really think they are so thick they can’t see the oppression and reactionary nature of Islam? they couldn’t care less about little mustapha the palastinian only so far as he can be used to attack the UK’s bourgeois culture.

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  21. dave1east says:

    imagine how the bbc would react if ed milliband’s rellies’ reputations were attacked in this way

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25142557

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    • Stewart says:

      A bit of a dilemma for the liberal inquisition?
      Does his being a homosexual rehabilitate him?
      I wouldn’t suppose so. Mr Kelly might find himself sent for re-education if not for implying that some gays might be racists then for failing to condemn Crane in the approved manner

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  22. DB says:

    Check hell for ice! BBC journalist criticises Obama on Twitter:

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    • Stewart says:

      Chinese Marxist/Leninism trumps American bourgeois socialism it seems

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Wow! This is historic. I’m glad you caught this, DB, or I’d never have believed it. I think this is the first ever Beeboid tweet speaking even remotely critical of Him.

      Technically, North isn’t actually criticizing Him, just raising the issue of the President’s draconian crackdown on leaks and media access. The BBC has actually reported once or twice that this Administration has pursued more leakers than all previous Administrations combined, but it sure has never been a theme they’ve pushed at all.

      Still, it’s good to know that at least one BBC journalist is concerned about this Administration’s treatment of his colleagues. You sure wouldn’t know it from Mardell’s or any other US Beeboid’s output.

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      • Reed says:

        It might be a good idea – in the name of impartiality 🙂 – to dedicate another tab to tweets that are non-standard, non-leftist…not your typical BBC worldview opinions.

        The tiny number would tell its own story, in contrast to the ever expanding litany of leftist propaganda in the other tab.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          North’s tweet has been added to the bottom of the ITOT page, along with Andrew Lansley’s possibly non-Left one. This and Andrew Neil’s existence balances out the other 8000 in the News division and the other thousands in other BBC departments.

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  23. +James says:

    Yet again the BBC are shilling for the Islamic jihadis. Just watched BBC World News. On it Zeinab Bedawi was talking about the conflict in the Central African Republic. She said that the “Christians were fighting the Muslims” and that “Christians were fighting Muslims rebels who control the city”.

    Yes reminds me of how the Beeb presented their pro-Boko Haram propaganda.

    No mention that it is Muslim “rebels” that are causing the chaos.

    The BBC’s Orwellian use of language is disgusting.

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  24. George R says:

    Easy question for BBC-NUJ on most brutal murder of LEE RIGBY:

    Was there an ISLAMIC motivation?

    “British soldier’s alleged killer ‘told police he went for jugular as he was hacked to death in London street because that is how animals are killed in Islam.'”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518738/Lee-Rigbys-killer-told-police-went-Fusiliers-jugular-animals-killed-Islam.html#ixzz2mdK1cjx9
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  25. Dave s says:

    The BBC really is up against reality now. Lee Rigby, The situation in Syria, the Central African Republic.
    How to report this that is the question. Omission, distortion and spinning rather than outright lies. After all this is a news organisation with world wide ambitions and it would not do to be entirely discredited.
    Things are not going the liberal beeboid’s way. Shame.

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  26. George R says:

    Reporting LIBYA:
    1.)
    BBC-NUJ’s non-Islamic version-

    “Libya violence: US teacher shot dead in Benghazi”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25239168

    2.)

    ‘Daily Mail’:-

    “U.S. teacher shot dead in Benghazi while out jogging days after al Qaeda told Libyan supporters to take revenge on America”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518736/US-teacher-Ronnie-Smith-shot-dead-Benghazi-Libya.html#ixzz2mdWSp74E
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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  27. Geoff says:

    Last Tango in Halifax is reaching PC platitudes that even Eastenders struggles to match. Underage pregnancy aside, the interracial lesbian couple (who still co-habit with one of their ex husbands) now want to try for a baby…

    Boxes and sub boxes being ticked here….

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    • Leo says:

      Nasty throw away comment about uncaring christians in the one I have just watched as well.

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  28. kev says:

    The BBC will not be really progressive until they have CIS gender people on their programmes.

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  29. Jeff Waters says:

    Five Live Censor Tim Montgomerie for BBC Criticism –

    http://order-order.com/2013/12/05/five-live-censor-tim-montgomerie-for-bbc-criticism/

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  30. Pounce says:

    Ding dong the the terrorist is dead

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah

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    • David Kay says:

      damn you beat me!!!

      wooohoooooo an evil communist terrorist mass murderer is dead, i hope he rots in hell

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    • Stewart says:

      bad form old man, bad form

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      • Pounce says:

        Actually it isn’t, the leftwingterroristlovingbritishhatingwankersatthebeebandtheirilk loved it when Maggie died, so what is good for the goose is good for the ganda anybody want to join me for a ‘Mandela is dead party?
        If they want to bitch about what I wrote, I only have to say, well you cock sucking wankers how do you think I felt when you arse fuckers celebrated when Maggie died.

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        • David Kay says:

          i’ll join you, pmsl at beeboids, marxist and the rest of you left wing traitor scumbags

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        • Stewart says:

          Two wrongs and all that, I wont shed any tears mind. but nor will I celebrate the death of another human being.

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          • Pounce says:

            I will, dancing like its 1999

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          • David Kay says:

            Stewart, at the last, the families of the hundreds of innocent victims of this evil commie terrorist scumbag have justice.

            May all victims of Mandelas’ murderous violence Rest in Peace

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Well said, Stewart. Now we get to sit back and wait for the inevitable charges of hypocrisy from defenders of the indefensible against all those here who complained about people celebrating Mrs. Thatcher’s death.

            Having said that, any defender of the indefensible who comes here to do that can go to hell anyway. You know damn well we won’t see any Beeboid tweets about trying to get the equivalent of Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead to top the charts. Yet defenders of the indefensible who will scold us tomorrow remained and will remain silent about that.

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            • Reed says:

              I wonder if the BBC’s reports will include persistent, knee-jerk references to the leader being ‘divisive’ and ‘controversial’…

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    • TPO says:

      Beat me to it, but I’ll join you in the laughter.
      He’ll be necklaced by old nick now.
      Made my Christmas this has.

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  31. TPO says:

    Another terrorist murderer has gone to meet old nick.
    Brace yourselves for a month of sackcloth and ashes from the communist bbc.
    Eulogising and airbrushing to the fore for mandela.
    Not one mention of those bombs.

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    • David Kay says:

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      • flexdream says:

        I find this in bad taste. Nelson Mandela was a terrorist once, but he grew up in a racist state, and he was pretty magnaminous in triumph as regards the white minority which ruled South Africa. Which of us would have been a better person than Mandela if we found ourselves in his situation?

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        • +James says:

          I agree that is in bad taste. But Mandela has the responsibility of the man who gave South Africa AIDS.

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        • George R says:

          And now we have ANC rule, which BBC-NUJ also supports politically:-

          “The ANC’s Real Achievement:
          Building the New Plutocracy”

          By R.W. Johnson.

          Click to access leadership.pdf

          e

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        • David Kay says:

          flexdream

          what if Bin Laden renounced violence, became president of some muslim shithole and preached peace, would you forgive him?

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          • +James says:

            Here is one thing the BBC will not mention. The ANC were trained by the IRA.

            The BBC will never mention “Mandela’s Necklace”

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          • flexdream says:

            The difference is principally that Mandela grew up in a state where the majority community, of which he was a part grew up oppressed because of their race by a minority whose power was a legacy from colonialism. He did renounce violence, even as it was being used to maintain apartheid. When he came to power he did not take revenge on the community from which his former oppressors came. Bin Laden came from a privileged background. Initially as he was opposed to the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan he was useful to the US and Pakistan and was encouraged and supported. He and his organisation evolved into a Sunni supremacist Islamic jihadist group dedicated to the establishment of an Islamic state across and beyond Muslim states and with nothing for their non-Sunni and non-Muslim fellow man other than servitude or death. Both men may have shared something in their initial motivations but one pursued the path of peace and reconciliation while the other only offered death, destruction and ruin. I could forgive neither, as only those injured can offer forgiveness, it’s not mine to offer.

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            • David Kay says:

              no difference my friend, a murderous terrorist is a murderous terrorist. i have no time for mitigating circumstances.

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  32. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:

    Time to disconnect the TV for a week or so. The terrorist has croaked. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520

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  33. Big Dick says:

    Oh No , Some old git in SA has just died, cue “We`re all going on a LF freebee to SA with the rest of New Broadcasting House , Media City & all” Now we are going to suffer weeks & weeks of this NM crap .

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    • Pounce says:

      Go to the bbC news website, on every page (And I mean every page) in huge (bigger than anything before) the bBC informs you that their fav black terrorist has croaked. REally glad that I was bought the complete 5 series of breaking bad for Christmas. I’ll bet after watching all of them and finishing off the many books on my kindle I’ll still face a few months of ‘Cry, i Nelson Mandela is dead,

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  34. bogtrott says:

    BBC in meltdown,nelson has died.1min silence and crying can be heard.Salford closed due to bereavement.

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  35. chrisH says:

    Bet his grasping families are already wrapping up presents from him, and attaching a stiff fingerprint to the cards attached.
    At least I`ve saved myself a stamp to Jo`Burg to send him his one!

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  36. ember2013 says:

    How many hours of tributes to Mandela will be broadcast by the BBC over the coming weekend?

    Spare me this.

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  37. Dave666 says:

    Just watching the Cold war series about submarine warfare.

    Up comes flashing banner. BREAKING NEWS ON BBC1

    What could it be? Oh right prepare for a puke fest and re-written history over the next few days.

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  38. pah says:

    The terrorist leader Mandela is free at last. Let’s hope the relatives of those he ordered killed can be free too.

    BBC speakerenes in black with their hair covered speak of their ‘fears being realised’ and a ‘sad day for the world’.

    No bias there then.

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  39. OldBloke says:

    I wonder what will happen to his garden?

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  40. thoughtful says:

    20 Effing minutes of non stop BBC Eulogising about how wonderful he was, I’m sure there can’t be many other world leaders they gave this much time to, although UUuuuugo ShavvvvveZZZzzzzzz does spring to mind.

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  41. Pounce says:

    How much does someone want to bet that the bBC will issue the statement:
    “Have you been affected by the death of Nelson Mandela”
    Write in and tell us your story

    Meanwhile in England thousands are without Power (lucky them) thousands are been moved as the once in a million years storm (well so the bBC told me) hits the Uk. But hey all that is smaller than the death of a black terrorist who did sweet FA for the UK.

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  42. David Kay says:

    Fatty Mardell just called dead commie terrorist Mandella a “Saint”!!!!

    St Nelson, patron saint of terrorism maybe

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  43. kev says:

    Obama must be really upset another black has stolen his spotlight.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Not all, kev. This is pure gold to the President, and to the media who have been waiting for an opportunity to stop worrying about reporting negatives. I just now saw Him give a statement about how His very first public act ever was to join a protest against Apartheid. Whether that’s as true as so much else He’s claimed about His past (never having met that uncle, imaginary girlfriends, never having really known Bill Ayers, not being close with Rev. Wright, that His father served in WWII, that his mother died because evil insurance companies canceled her policy, for example), I have no idea.

      Now we get to spend the entire weekend talking about racism, and how Apartheid is still with us in the US, the perfect distraction from the problems with ObamaCare, the IRS scandal, Benghazi, the rapid approach of that budget can we kicked down the road a couple months ago, and all the rest of it. He and the media will exploit this for all it’s worth.

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  44. All Seeing Eye says:

    I’ve started a new Mandela thread.

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  45. Pounce says:

    Nelson Mandela is sitting with the devil watching TV and drinking a beer in which to keep cool when he hears a knock at the door.

    When he opens it, he is confronted by a little Chinese man, clutching a clip board and yelling,
    -* “You Sign! You sign!”

    Behind him is an enormous truck full of car exhausts.
    Nelson is standing there in complete amazement, when the Chinese man starts to yell louder.

    -* “You Sign! You sign!”
    Nelson says to him,
    -* “Look, you’ve obviously got the wrong man”, and shuts the door.
    The next day he hears a knock at the door again. When he opens it,the little Chinese man is back with a huge truck of brake pads.

    He thrusts his clipboard under Nelson´s nose, yelling,
    -* “You sign! You sign!”
    Mr Mandela is getting a bit hacked off by now, so he pushes the little Chinese man back, shouting:
    -* “Look, go away! You’ve got the wrong man! I don´t want them!” Then he slams the door again.

    The following day, Nelson is resting, and late in the afternoon, he hears a knock on the door again.
    On opening the door, there is the same little Chinese man thrusting a clipboard under his nose, shouting,
    -* “You sign! You sign!”

    Behind him are TWO very large trucks full of car parts. This time Nelson Mandela loses his temper completely, he picks up the little man by his shirt front and yells at him:
    -* “Look, I don´t want these! Do you understand? You must have the wrong name! Who do you want to give these to?”

    The little Chinese man looks very puzzled, consults his clipboard, and says:
    -* “You not Nissan Main Dealer?”

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  46. thoughtful says:

    Now it’s 30 minutes and the ridiculous spectacle that they are making of this drags on. They should have had a special ‘Mandelas dead spectacular’ after the main news instead of Hijacking it. This looks like it will develop into a one hour session wiping out the main news and all the rest.

    No doubt they will manage to find a way to work in how the storm affected Nelson Mandelas family.

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  47. dayday says:

    Who would believe that there is something more important than some windy weather in winter.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Probably the people who died before their time because of it ! Probably the ones seriously injured, the tens of thousands without power, or their homes flooded, or worrying if theirs is going to be.

      Mandela was a 95 year old man, whose death was widely expected, it was not a ‘news story’ other than the usual 10 minute slot with special programs after the news.

      I sincerely doubt any other world figure other than perhaps Fidel Castro would be accorded so much air time from the Bolsheviks in the BBC.

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  48. Geoff says:

    Jeez looks likes no QT tonight 45 mins into bBC 1 news and no mention of the storms yet, not to mention the same on Newsnight. This has only just started, Thatchers death didnt get this much coverage, expect endless docu’s and a full days coverage on 1,2, News 24 and theRed Button.

    Roll on midnight for the cricket.

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    • Banquosghost says:

      Hear, bloody hear!

      Mind you, what’s the betting the players wear black armbands and Haddin marks the death by scoring a fucking century!

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  49. Geoff says:

    Ah a break for local news from Points West, but no they find a Mandela angle to lead with, agenda what agenda?

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