MONDAY MORNING OPEN THREAD…..

Phew! Now that the Mandelathon has finished, it may be safe to watch the more normal bias exuded by the BBC. Here’s a new thread for you to fill with instances of bias.

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319 Responses to MONDAY MORNING OPEN THREAD…..

  1. AsISeeIt says:

    The overseas phase of Madibarama has finished and the Beeboids are filtering back to the UK for Christmas…

    Reassured by their Twitter following that they got it ‘about right’

    Rachel Burden ‏@rachelburden 15 Dec
    Time to head home. Manchester is a mere 18 hours away.

    Mike Burton ‏@MikeBurton2000 15 Dec
    @rachelburden Great work Rachel. Safe flight home. Our children will be listening to your reports on the historic events in years to come.

    Rachel Burden ‏@rachelburden 22h
    @MikeBurton2000 I hope so. Not sure my children are that bothered at the moment but I might have to save a tape or two.

    BBC: If I miss this gig, my friends will think I’ve gone mainstream

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    • Uncle Bup says:

      I’m with Rachel’s children – not that bothered at the moment. Nor any other moment.

      I don’t suppose we the licence-payer will have seen any change out of twenty grand for the cost of Rachel’s jolly.

      Hey ho.

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  2. Thoughtful says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25411181

    A Lie by omission

    So people born in the 60s & 70s will be poorer than their parents, and there’s lot of reasons given as to why that is, but absolutely no analysis what so ever, because all the blame lies on the left.

    So many strikes in the 70s led to huge swathes of manufacturing industry closing and the loss of jobs was colossal. Now we have no domestic UK owned car industry – who can we blame? Well obviously no Red Robbo the Communist nor Arthur Scargill who helped him co ordinate the destruction of the union members jobs. No we’ll blame Margaret Thatcher instead !

    Years of Liebour mismanagement of the economy led to uncompetitive industries being allowed to swan along without modernising or becoming competitive until the UK went bust!

    Then there’s the mad mass immigration of the criminal Tony BLiar which has forced wages lower and house prices higher.

    One firm we heard about now employs only Poles on shift work all at the minimum wage with no shift allowance or overtime payments.

    The answers and the reasons are staring everyone in the face, but the BBC is not going to mention the reasons, just the facts as they see them.

    Those of us with a degree of awareness know what the cause is even if the biased BBC won’t say it.

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    • #88 says:

      And of course Gordon Brown destroyed Britain’s pensions. Our Pensions were the envy of the world until Brown stole £5bn a year (compounded) from our schemes.

      It seems that this is something that Labour will repeat.

      On the DP last week, Forghorn Reeves said Labour would include the State Pension in a benefits cap. No one bothered to ask her what that meant, or has done so since.

      The only conclusion that can be drawn is that under Labour the State Pension will be means-tested. If you have saved for a private or an occupational pension which is above the cap….you will not get the state pension that you have also paid for.

      Brown redistributive communism, stole from the thrifty, and their pension funds, to hand it out in benefits. They are going to do the same again this time making sure that those that have planned for their retirement will sacrifice their state pension in favour of those that have pissed all of their money against the wall.

      No wonder our kids will be less well off….and no wonder the BBC have buried a story that will destroy Labour’s chances at the next election.

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    • Number 7 says:

      You missed out on “The man who stole your Pension”.

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  3. JayBee says:

    I used to use the term “Evil Triumvirate” for politicians, banksters and corporations.
    Now, I realise that politicians are just a bbc prop for the illusion of democracy.
    The real Evil Triumvirate is headed by the bbc to propagandise the legitimacy of a corporate and banking takeover of our nation.
    The banks want to steal our money? Fine the bbc will produce a programme to confuse and confound the population whilst you pilfer their wealth.
    Corporations want zero hours contracts, to rape the planet of resources, to employ successive waves of immigrants to replace the last lot? Fine the bbc will make the population tow the line. We’ll call them racists and threaten their barely survivable existence with propaganda.
    The bbc is the ultimate corporation, looking after all the other crooked corporations.
    The bbc is a propaganda machine for the self-proclaimed middleclass, the self-loathing left, who want to curse the western world for self-perceived historical wrong-doings.
    The bbc hates our Christian past so wants to destroy our future with islam.
    The bbc creates the illusion of a middleclass with a neverending stream of middleclass leftist propaganda shoe-horned into every programme it puts out. Even a neverending stream of antiques programmes so that the middleclass haves can look down on the have-nots. And, neverending stream of property programmes so that the middleclass can measure themselves against others by how expensive their houses are. Have you ever seen anyone on those programmes by an ordinary house that the majority can afford?
    There is no such thing as a middleclass. We are all workers. You either earn money or you don’t. You either work for it or you don’t. A middleclass person is a worker who looks down their nose at another worker.
    Cut the head off the Evil Triumvirate. Starve it of its lifeblood. Withhold your hard-earned money.

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  4. George R says:

    “Liars! MPs say BBC bosses lied to Parliament about obscene pay-offs.
    There couldn’t be a more serious charge, but don’t expect any contrition.”

    By Quentin Letts.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2524821/BBC-Quentin-Letts-Liars-MPs-say-BBC-bosses-lied-Parliament-obscene-pay-offs-There-charge-dont-expect-contrition.html#ixzz2nj4R1GEY

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    • DICK R says:

      And still no criminal investigation!!!

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    • noggin says:

      The issue I have here, is the set up, and how it is viewed
      by the ordinary Joe in the street i.e.-

      Liars – MP s, say Liars – BBC, have … well … Lied, about pay offs/expenses.
      How refreshing it might be to have a non “old boy” network, of inquisitors, informed people to put their toes to the fire, and stand for no nonsense

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  5. JayBee says:

    On Keiser Report now…

    Not all “comic” relief donations has been spent on the poor. £100M has been invested in the stock market by the bbc, much of it in stocks that lefty libs would call unethical.

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  6. BBC Heart Labour says:

    Possibly a small, but certainly a noticeable, insight into the BBC mindset was demonstrated by Jeremy Vine on Sunday’s Andrew Marr’s show…. As he was reading out the agenda for the show he said…

    “We will be talking to the Shadow Business Secretary Chukka Umunna who can tell us whether the polls are rattling Labour as the economy recovers and so does the Government’s standing it seems. But we need some Christmas cheer too, so we bring you….”

    The only people who think that there’s bad news around so much that they need cheering up are of course Labour and the BBC.

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  7. George R says:

    INBBC and Chechen jihadists: Beslan, Boston and Syria.

    The following ‘sing-song’ INBBC commentary plays down the gruesome recent record of Chechen jihadists’ global violence in reporting this:-

    “The Chechen Jihadists fighting in Syria”

    (inc 2 min video clip).

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25405471

    Here, for INBBC, is some recent historical context on Chechen Islamic jihadists:-

    1.)

    “How Chechnya Became a Breeding Ground for Terror”

    http://www.meforum.org/744/how-chechnya-became-a-breeding-ground-for-terror

    2.)

    “Boston Marathon jihad murderers may have trained in Chechen Islamic school”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/boston-marathon-jihad-murderers-may-have-trained-in-chechen-islamic-school.html#_logout

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  8. John Anderson says:

    A little more of the news on the ObamaCare pile-up getting worse, not better – don’t hold your breath waiting for Mardell and the BBC reporting squarely on this ongoing disaster for ordinary Americans :

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304403804579260603531505102

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      John, when they do get around to it (and they’ll have to eventually), they’ll take the President’s talking point of blaming Republicans being dedicated to sabotage rather than making it work. It’s been Mardell’s go-to line since he moved to the US, and nothing has changed his mind on anything yet.

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  9. noggin says:

    V Drearybyshire – BBC 5live
    reports on a upsetting story – a Dr who has died in custody in Syria, one has the feeling something is amiss here in the story.
    Anyway … this quickly turns into a get (boo hiss) Assad, propaganda piece, expanded by VD and co, no news on
    the daily murders, beheadings and atrocities by the ahem
    … “opposition”
    as usual … pro jihadi bbc

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  10. ember2013 says:

    Currently on the BBC news page the story about “British surgeon Dr Abbas Khan imprisoned in Syria” dying in jail is far above the news that UK inflation falls to 2.1%.

    Funny how he was arrested so soon after arriving in Syria. Maybe the BBC isn’t telling us about how how quickly he picked up some guns and started shooting at Syrian government forces?

    We may never know.

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  11. John Anderson says:

    The worst of bad taste – at the US Embassy in London, Obama gets a bigger picture than George Washington and Abraham Lincoln :

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/12/now-he-belongs-to-the-gauges.php

    Has the BBC ever used the words “arrogant” or “narcissistic” about Obama ? Have they even reported that this is nhow many Americans regard him ?

    (And that is leaving out “congenital liar” from his “autobiographies” right through to “You can keep your health plan – and it will be $2500 cheaper per family”, or “despot who rides roughshod over the US Constitution”. No, just the one-sided BBC presentation as Obama The Magnificent.

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  12. Dave s says:

    On the news bias generally .I often watch RT news. It is much more informative than the BBC. It is also quite easy to look past the obvious Russian take on things and see the bare facts of the matter. RT seems to respect reality.
    I cannot do this with the BBC. For this reason alone it is not a serious proposition as a news provider.
    The news readers are poor and allow their emotions to show. The habit of interviewing each other is pointless.
    For the money if I was the boss of the news department I would sack the lot.
    As with BBC comedy their best days are long gone.

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    • flexdream says:

      I find RT toes the Moscow line, but then the BBC has it’s own agenda (including anti-Putin, and anti-Russia), so as I think no news source is impartial it’s best to use a few. http://wn.com/ has a good selection.

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      • Dave s says:

        Yes I agree. But the Russian take on things is very obvious lacking the pretence of the BBc’s “impartiality”. Thanks for the link.

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  13. Thoughtful says:

    What ever happened to Rudolph ??

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lidl-reindeer-steaks-sourced-grim-2928190

    Shhhhhhhhh don’t tell the kids !

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  14. Doublethinker says:

    On the Daily Politics today there was a jaw dropping example of BBC pro Labour bias. They had a guest comic actor , whom I have never heard of , doing a piece on how awful it is that people judge politicians so much on their looks and not on their policies. He cited E Miliband over and over again, as an example of a politician who people thought was too ugly to be PM and didn’t listen to what he said because they thought he was so ugly.
    This was clearly an attempt by the Labour spin doctors and the BBC to try and overcome E Miliband’s appearance and is surely driving a coach and horses through the BBC’s requirement to be impartial.
    If he had done the piece without naming any politician or party, then it would of been just a bit of whimsey, but to keep plugging Labour and E Miliband , they were mentioned at least a dozen times, is just not on.

       18 likes

    • Uncle Bup says:

      I don’t have a problem with ugly people being Prime Minister.

      It’s rank stupidity I have issues with. And REd has that in spades.

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    • Arthur Penney says:

      Princess IDA comes to mind.

      e’s blunders?
      CYRIL. Nature never errs.
      To those who know the workings of your mind,
      Your face and figure, sir, suggest a book
      Appropriately bound.

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      • Arthur Penney says:

        GAMA : Come now, be honest, tell the truth for once!
        Tell it of me. Come, come, I’ll harm you not.
        This leg is crooked – this foot is ill-designed –
        This shoulder wears a hump! Come, out with it!
        Look, here’s my face! Now, am I not the worst
        Of Nature’s blunders?

        CYRIL: Nature never errs.
        To those who know the workings of your mind,
        Your face and figure, sir, suggest a book
        Appropriately bound.

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    • ember2013 says:

      E Miliband is that rarity in being on TV frequently despite being both ugly and dumb.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Subjective issue I know, but Mr. Miliband is not ugly.
      They are trying to steer things, as always, to make this the defining issue when it’s not.
      Some of our greatest politicians have not exactly been supermodels, yet could inspire and lead the nation to go anywhere; do anything.
      Mr. Miliband would struggle to get me to follow him into a pub for a free pint.
      It’s not what he looks like that inspires this reaction. It is what he says, doesn’t say, doesn’t do and too often is seen doing. This from the BBC house journal, clearly not in receipt of the DP memo:
      http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2013/dec/13/lily-allen-ed-miliband-selfie-caption-competition
      A few contenders, but this sums most up:
      ‘This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs.’
      Speaking for whom again?

         7 likes

      • Deborah says:

        It isn’t that Ed is ugly but he reminds me of the sort of goofy youth that in my teenage years all the girls would dread being chatted up by at parties.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Miliband, Cameron and Clegg are far to young and therefore inexperienced and lacking in wisdom to be Prime Minister.

      People should only be allowed to become Prime Minister once they reach the age of 50.

      This would mean that only Nigal Farage would be eligible to become Prime Minister after the next election.

      Problem solved.

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    • Milverton says:

      J’accuse… David Schneider (for it was he) who was involved in On The Hour and The Day Today, with the marvellous Chris Morris back in the nineties.

      I saw a couple of minutes of this but when they decided to team Schneider and Nick Ferrari, an old bête noire of mine from Live TV, in the studio, my gag reflex kicked in and I had to turn over.

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    • pah says:

      T’was always thus.

      The BBC, via many avenues, have lambasted Ann Widdecombe for being fat and ugly and yet there’s ne’er a peep about Mo Mollam, Claire Short, Dianne Abbott, Gwyneth Dunwoody, Margaret Becket et al ad nauseum.

      No, only Tories are ugly in BBC land.

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  15. Thoughtful says:

    TWATO complaining about the treatment of their favourite brown eyed boys having a hard time in parts of India and comparing them to the Jews in Nazi Germany.
    Not a mention of Muslim atrocities against Hindus, nor come to that any other religion, and certainly not the reasons why people HATE the Muslims.

    The BBC doing its promotion of Islam yet again.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The number of Hindus killed during the period of Muslim rule (Moghuls, Tamerlane, Tipu Sultan etc) is incalculable, but runs into tens of millions. In “Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India” by K.S. Lal published in 1973, it is estimated that between 60-80 million people died between the 11th and 16th centuries as a direct consequence of the Muslim invasions and occupation. Whilst it is absurd to blame this on people alive today, it provides a historical backdrop to some of the amnosity in the sub-continent today.

         11 likes

      • thoughtful says:

        Why is it absurd to blame it on people alive today? The lefties and the BBC (same thing!) are constantly blaming white British people alive today for things which happened hundreds of years ago !

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Hope it links, but I was sent this and feel the message is powerful and apposite:

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  17. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Have you guys seen this?

    The team behind Twenty Twelve takes on BBC for new show

    The BBC is to become the subject of a new sitcom from the team behind Olympic mock documentary Twenty Twelve.

    Hugh Bonneville will reprise the role of Ian Fletcher, the charming but inept boss who was last seen planning for the Olympics in London, for new series W1A.

    This time, however, Fletcher will be taking on his next big job – the BBC Head of Values, a role that doesn’t exist at the BBC but very easily could.

    His task? ‘To clarify, define or redefine the core purpose of the BBC across all its functions and to position it confidently for the future’.

    The post is, apparently, one in which he is meant to be thinking ‘Big Thoughts’ in the run-up to the licence fee renegotiation in 2016. But it turns out he has little time to think any thoughts at all.

    It’s pure genius, really. They do this and everyone can praise the BBC for having the courage, humility, and transparency of making fun of themselves. It’s the next stage of the game after last year’s round of self-congratulation for the public airing of their dirty laundry over Savile/McAlpine. Remember all the pride they took in asking what other media organization would have such an “open” internal discussion? This won’t be skewering the real problems, but instead will be skewering what they believe most people accept as the real problems. You know the drill: management structure, a bit too much of the corporate mindset and not enough time or resources for the amazing staff to get creative and perform wonders. This way they can focus all the attention on the kind of thing Margaret Hodge was upset about, and avoid discussing the real problems of ideological corruption, greed, and far too much power and influence. Think I’m making it up?

    Writer John Morton, who was behind Twenty Twelve and People Like Us, says it’s not a ‘demolition job on anybody or anything and it isn’t one giant in-joke’.

    He adds: ‘If it is satirical then it’s satirical about an environment, an ethos, and the absurdities of modern corporate life itself. The key principle is to operate at a level of reality just to the left or the right of fact, to create stories that haven’t actually happened but that could happen or might have happened.’

    Head of in-house comedy Mark Freeland says it’s ‘a kind of love letter to the BBC. But a letter that gets mislaid, because the remote computer system is not working and Head of Recovery, BBC, is stuck in a blue sky brainstorming session in a meeting room that’s been double booked and, anyway, the bean bags have gone missing’.

    The BBC is just trolling you now. At your own expense.

       15 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      You are probably right, and they seem to be getting going on the satire right now (Nope, not April 1 either). The bit at the end is a peach:
      ‘An anonymous spokesperson for Tony Hall, in a moment of astounding clarity, announces that the director general is fully behind the project: ‘In a divergent, 360 degrees, flexi-content, on-demand marketplace, this is just the kind of connected proposition that the BBC is prioritising … What is it’
      A ‘anonymous spokesperson’, as opposed to the variety served up every other time… love it!
      More seriously, while they are likely going down the route you predict, it is a much more dangerous path as their lack of extra-bubble awareness meets their in-bubble obsessions.
      There is talent to be found there, and if it is of a kind that gave us ‘Yes, Minister’ or on-form ‘Thick of It’ levels of stiletto satire, I’m guessing a battalion of ‘Heads Of..’ and union reps and lawyers will be in there to shut things down quicker than an accidently comments-enabled HYS on immigration or Mandela coverage.
      And then it will be re-written, by committee, which means it will be total pants.
      Four, expensive, down the pan, episodes of pants.
      Or they do actually hit the mark, and if hit well, the screams from the culpable will be heard all the way from Salford.
      Can’t wait.
      Especially for ‘The One Where the Head of the Trust, an ex-DG and a Current Head of News all share alternative versions of the Truth’ about ‘The One Where A Producer Tops Himself Whist Being Harassed as a Top Talent Gets His Van Parking Validated’. They could get Sue Pollard to reprise the Demi Moore role and Richard Bacon plays himself.
      More a heavily redacted love-letter than a mislaid one, really.

         4 likes

      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        2012 had its moments, I thought. And they did have the courage to portray the Algerian (IIRC) Mohammedans as making an unreasonable request. But it wasn’t poking fun at the Olympics or at the people in charge or them or at anything other than a few muppets in the middle of it all.

        Maybe the Beeboids themselves will be laughing at various caricatures they recognize, but is this made for them or for the public?

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        • Guest Who says:

          ‘…but is this made for them or for the public?..’
          Ah, now that’s another question.
          It’s not like the BBC has any form sending itself pricey love letters on the public tab to post internal morale, now is it?

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          • Guest Who says:

            post. boost

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            • OldBloke says:

              Now this is interesting. On the Radio 4 comedy(?) slot tonight (6.30pm) the chat was to belittle the BBC by comedians in the BBC. Very clever, but it didn’t fool me and hopefully none of the listeners either. The BBC must be worried if they are using this tactic.

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          • David Preiser (USA) says:

            Your mentioning internal morale prompted me to have a slight rethink about what this show will be about. I should have realized right from the start the things they’ll be poking fun at are the things the Beeboids think are the problem, not just what the Hodges and Mail writers think about the salaries and payoffs, etc.

            What I mean is, I bet we’ll see them send up the “biddable types” Jeremy Paxman was bitching about as having ruined Newsnight, the moron who designed the public spaces in ways that make the poor little dears feel oppressed (viz the area Danny Cohen is spending 500 grand to make more “creative”). We might see scenes featuring a panel of mandarins telling a Victoria Wood or Jennifer Saunders proxy what’s funny and how to write their comedy, or how somebody’s interpretation of public service broadcasting stifles their creativity or causes a moment of hilarious confusion when a producer mixes the message.

            I bet we won’t see several different BBC correspondents and presenters flown out to cover a major story and the wastefulness of seeing them all standing side-by-side next to the production van making the same report (like I witnessed at a 9/11 memorial ceremony) only in a slightly different tone to suit their own programme’s unique audience.

            I think we’ll see all the little things the Beeboids don’t like about the corporate structure and rules, none of which have any relation to the real problems at the BBC everyone else sees. And it will still foster a round of aren’t-we-great-for-making-fun-of-ourselves preening, while enabling them to continue to ignore the real complaints about bias, corruption, and too much power and influence.

            Like I said, it’s sheer genius.

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            • Guest Who says:

              “all the little things the Beeboids don’t like about the corporate structure and rules”
              —-
              The Big Beeb Theory?
              Featuring…
              The Skinny Latte Disatisfaction
              The Overpriced Baked Potato Frustration
              The Rotating Door Inconvenience
              …etc…
              Citizen Khan may actually start looking pretty good.

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        • ember2013 says:

          It’s more self-indulgent pap from the beeb.

             7 likes

  18. Stewart says:

    Just caught this on ‘order order’

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BW3iIfjCUAIeD6H.jpg:large

    Bias what bias

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    • Stewart says:

      Sorry that’s one I sent earlier (some where else )
      Though it is a scary story not directly BBC
      I meant this

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25405250

      All Smiles I see

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      • David Preiser (USA) says:

        Vine is a complete ignoramus. It sounds like an unusual piece to play? It’s actually pretty simple, and children learn it easily. Oh, sure, it’s technically not children’s pieces and is about childhood (it translates more or less as “Childhood Scenes”), and the other pieces in the set are more difficult, but there’s a reason this one is in the kiddie books, as are a couple others. It’s mostly just chord progressions and passing tones. And Schumann’s working title for the set was “Easy Pieces”.

        Balls was playing wrong and extra notes all over the place, in addition to memory lapses. That’s why it sounded odd. Vine reveals his ignorance fairly regularly on Eggheads, so it’s no surprise. Maybe if Balls had played a tune by Morrisey, Vine would have been more in his element.

        Full respect to anyone trying to learn an instrument in middle age, and he has no reason to be embarrassed, really, but come on. Personal journey aside, Balls is trying to soften his public image. It’s the aural equivalent of Gordon Brown’s rictus grin. This is about rehabilitating a politician’s public image, and nothing else. Is the BBC duty-bound to give Balls this platform?

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        The BBC dancing to Ed Balls’ tune again. Even if it is a load of Chopsticks.

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      • Guest Who says:

        As always, my imagination roams to areas of precedent, as teams of SPaDs brainstorm how their guy or gal can snag a slot on the next BBC Political Strictly Amateur Hour.
        Can just see Prescott pulling on the hose and getting en pointe for his at last realised dream of being the next Nureyev.
        Or Vince doing a masterclass in oils very much homaging Jonnie from the Fast Show… ‘Yellow, yellow, everywhere, like the stain of stale urine in the snow…’.
        Tories may get a look in too, but like the HIGNFY guest list, only if they are sure-fire self-detonators.
        Gove penning a Broadway musical no chance, but if working out a long-repressed desire to be an abattoir-worker…. come on down!
        As to Vine’s capabilities, that’s a little unfair to the ignoramus community, who seem to comprise the majority of those on call to give his show their views.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Also, Balls on Vine sounds like where you’d end up if you took a wrong turn (or, depending, a right one) off Castro St in San Fran.

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  19. chrisH says:

    Can I be the first to say that I saw Nelson Mandela as me and a pal were heading for Salisbury Library?
    We were walking along and across from the market square when we realised we had forgotten what day was early closing day…and were we in danger of wasting our time?
    Blow me…if it wasn`t old Nelson who told us that-indeed this was a good day to visit the library…open `til 7p.m “as it `appens”(he didn`t say that actually!).
    It was only later on when reading the periodicals when it occurred to us both that we had been visited by Mandible…albeit in the guise of a Wiltshire 4×4 yuppie!
    “Were we not strangely warmed by his visitation?”…indeed we were!
    Nelson is alive…somebody run along to Salford and tell s `em the news!…tell them Boris sent you(with due respect to Bobby Boris Pickett).
    The crypt has been kicked!…Nelson is alive!…
    (It might have been Jimmy Savile-but would the BBC be as bovvered?)

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  20. George R says:

    Different headlines on LEE RIGBY murder case today.

    Whereas ‘Daily Star’ has this headline:
    1.)
    “Lee Rigby trial: Judge says ‘being a soldier of Allah is not a defence.’
    Being a ‘soldier of Allah’ is no defence for the murder of Lee Rigby, a judge ruled today.”

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/356352/Lee-Rigby-trial-Judge-says-being-a-soldier-of-Allah-is-not-a-defence

    BBC-NUJ has this non-Islamic version, as its headline:-

    2.)

    “Lee Rigby murder ‘indefensible’, court hears”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25416422

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    • ember2013 says:

      The BBC also seemed happy to tell us, via breaking news, that the defendants weren’t being charged with conspiring to murder a police officer.

      A pyrhhic victory for them and the BBC’s defence of Islam.

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  21. EmersonV says:

    Another attack on the military by Vine, I mean Afghanistan was such a lovely place before 2002′ executions in the football stadium, no education for girls.

    What have we left them with, democracy a functioning society and some security..

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      But, ember, the wrong people did that, so it’s no good. The BBC values lives according to who kills them, so in turn they must devalue any success if it’s thanks to the wrong sort of people.

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  22. ember2013 says:

    BBC News is cheekily headlining last night’s Newsnight spat between actor Matthew Perry and Peter Hitchens with the title: “Actor Matthew Perry says drug courts work.”
    (As if his was the final say on the matter.)

    Two sides to the argument, BBC

    The written article focusses on Perry’s comments like they are gospel. Anyone who watches the interview can see that Perry was outclassed by Hitchens who asked the simple question: “If addiction is an allergy why have so many addicts used willpower to overcome addiction?”

    Drug addicts acting as magistrates in courts? What next? Murderers judging the jury?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Since the BBC is so keen to use actors as authorities on important issues with which they have the absolute moral authority of personal experience, I eagerly await the segment featuring some darling explaining how high taxes are a bad idea and lead to people taking wealth – and revenue – out of the country.

      Or, you know, encourage them to set up production companies in order to avoid paying the higher income tax.

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  23. #88 says:

    Richard Bacon epitomises the ‘out-of-touch’ metropolitan, self-indulgent, left wing bollocks that is todays BBC.

    Reporting on an attempted arson attack in Belfast by republican dissidents, Bacon tries to ascertain whether the attacker was intent on fire starting or had set out to take lives. But in the way that Bacon frames the question he sounds like he is an apologist…The terrorist didn’t intend to kill anyone…just burn the shop down seems to be his analysis (which to him must be ok ’cause shop owners are capitalist running dogs and deserve to be burned out?). The shop owner respectfully chastised Bacon telling him, whether the attacker intended harm or not wasn’t the point. As if to justify his position – for it was a position he had taken – he asked the same question of an academic from Queens University. He got the same answer. Astonishing and comforting for the people who would destroy the peace in Northern Ireland.

    An hour or so later Bacon’s incredulity was in evidence when a business leader objected to the TUC’s proposals that Grandparent’s should get leave to look after their grandkids – graternity leave? He couldn’t believe, not for one minute, that businesses prime raison d’etre was to make money and provide employment and that these running dogs refused to be at the beck and call of the people that worked for them.

    I suppose though, in BBC land where they don’t have to compete and they throw money around like it is theirs, Bacon’s incredulity at the ways of the real world is understandable.

    That, OR Bacon is a complete pillock whose adventures in substance abuse have left him permanently deranged.

    Isn’t it time Bacon was canned?

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Will the BBC next have Bacon to defend on similar grounds, for example, the Jews who blew up the King David Hotel in their struggle for independence, then? I won’t hold my breath.

         5 likes

    • Span Ows says:

      Isn’t it time Bacon was canned?

      Well he’d have to be boiled and salted first so I’d say yes please.

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  24. Chris says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22389954
    apparently Mandela was the president of the world? No body told me!
    His list of achievements is also notable for the omissions…
    and Kim ban whats her face the Burmese woman? Not a chance the BBC will allow her to be the non existent (only in the BBC’s warped world) world president. To many of the ROP crowd being “oppressed” (translation – not allowed to run around raping orphans with impunity and murdering people in the street) in Burma. The Burmese, unlike us, don’t take their shit.

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  25. Chris says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25370076
    A bunch of Muslims who hated America for not being Muslim, and who followed the religion of Islam flew planes into the twin towers in the name of Mohamed.
    Muslims, who followed Islam murdered all of those people with no justifiable people. Muslims.
    The BBC just needs to fuck off and realize that Muslims did it. Muslims who followed Islam. It was not the USA. It was Muslims.

       16 likes

    • Chris says:

      They were MUSLIMS.

         5 likes

    • Dave s says:

      Conspiracy theories are very strange. They seem to fulfill some inner need in some people.
      It seems as if they are unable to face up to the reality of anything so need to invent their own. Very odd.

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  26. Chris says:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25416422

    In his closing speech, prosecutor Richard Whittam QC said: “Islam, one of the world’s great religions, is not on trial.”

    Even when they murder our people in the street, the authorities still lick their arse.

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  27. John Anderson says:

    It looks as though Swiftboat John Kerry plus Obama are aiming to force a deal on Israel that is worse than anything ever proposed before – with nil contribution from the Palestinians, of course. The BBC will be cheering it on, of course.

    One aspect of the deal is surrender of the Temple Mount, the site of the original Jewish temples from 3000 years ago. On that point alone, the whole deal looks terrible. Along with much of the main city. Jerusalem is so obviously a Jewish site – but it is also the site of the climax of the Christian story. Surrender to the crooks and murderers of the PLA and Hamas is surely unthinkable – except to clowns like Obama and Kerry. But not to the BBC, of course.

    http://carolineglick.com/kerry-forces-israels-moment-of-decision/

       11 likes

    • John Anderson says:

      A comment on Caroline Glick’s forebodings :

      http://pjmedia.com/spengler/2013/12/17/its-about-the-settlements-stupid/?singlepage=true

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    • Dave s says:

      Israel is the one and only viable ME state. The rest are faling or failed, or vicious dictatorships. Is this what the liberal cannot stand? The obvious success of Israel.
      I think it is. It is the age old jealousy of the Jew and the peculiar disease of anti Semitism.
      When you provoke the liberal by taking the side of Israel he or she always, and I mean always ,ends up ranting.
      Just visit any university.
      The liberal elitests in the West should be declared not welcome in Israel.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Stupid all-powerful Jewish Lobby can’t even get this right. Yet most at the BBC will still insist they control it all.

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  28. thoughtful says:

    The Lee Rigby trial eclipsed (deliberately?) by the Mandelathon has reached the final submission stage, and soon the summing up will begin.
    After a day of evidence the BBC choses to report this:

    In his closing speech, prosecutor Richard Whittam QC said: “Islam, one of the world’s great religions, is not on trial.”

    Makes you wonder seeing as the civil service is instructing him whether he has been told to say that, and other left wing organisations would have seized on it with glee.

    “Killing to make a political point, to frighten the public, to put pressure on the government or as an expression of anger is murder and remains murder whether the government in question is a good one, a bad one, or a dreadful one,” he said.

    No mention of the Islamic religion which Abelbolajo was scrupulous to tell everyone was what motivated him. It seems the intention of every government apparatchik to airbrush the religion of peace out of the picture despite it being central.

    Having said all that was this a coded message for those with ears to hear?

    “The barrister went on to tell the jury that the issue of what motivated Mr Adebolajo “raises awkward questions” for MPs.”

    He said: “A person, a human being, can do the most evil act in the world and not actually be evil themselves.”

    To me this is saying in a coded manner that it is Islam which is the motivator of evil, although of course I could be wrong and it might be perceived by others very differently ?

    What are the awkward questions being raised for MPs? About Islam, or the wars of BLiar and the other trigger happy assholes who should never be allowed near an order for our military to operate abroad !

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    • George R says:

      ‘Jihad Watch’:-

      “UK: Prosecutor in trial of jihad murderers of British soldier on London street reminds jury that Islam is not on trial”

      [Opening excerpt]:-

      “At the site of the murder, Mujahid Abu Hamza (Michael Adebolajo) said: ‘But we are forced by the Qur’an, in Sura At-Tawba, through many ayah in the Qu’ran, we must fight them as they fight us.’ More recently, he has said of the murder: ‘I obeyed Allah and that is the end of the story for me….I believe the best way to conduct any act is to copy Mohammed.’
      ” If Britain were remotely a sane society at this point, such statements would trigger a searching public discussion of the teachings of Islam and the need for Muslims in Britain and elsewhere in the West to reject the elements of Islamic law and Islamic teaching that conflict with otherwise universally held principles of human rights. Instead, judges like this Whittam and even Prime Minister Cameron say that the crime had nothing to do with Islam — and why? Because they really, really don’t want it to.”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/12/uk-judge-in-trial-of-jihad-murderers-of-british-soldier-on-london-street-reminds-jury-that-islam-is-.html

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      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Cameron will hear that statement by the prosecuting council, loud and clear. But somehow the words of that murderous cunt will fall on his deaf ears.
        Bastards all of them.

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        • Alan Larocka says:

          Oh to see all the streets and parks in the UK named after Mandela re-named Rigby. A fitting tribute to a British citizen and his family who paid the highest price for multiculturalism.

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  29. Geoff says:

    More Labour bias on The One Show tonight. In an article about the HS2 Hybrid Bill and the struggles of affected locals to understand the document. At the conclusion of the item, lightweight Baker asked Beeboid Siegle what people could do to prevent it, without hesitation she replied that Labour had big reservations and would look ‘seriously’ at the costs before going ahead.

    Of course the implication given that those against should vote Labour, no mention that UKIP are also against it…..

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  30. Geoff says:

    More anti Thatcher bias on Last Tango in Halifax, arguing couple woman rages “Name one war started by a woman?” male replies “The Falklands”

    Typical BBC bias, not only anti Mrs T, but also completely untrue.

       24 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      They are, of course, but words spoken by a character in a work of fiction, but the nature of such views seem rather unidirectional.
      Just the kind of complaint CECUTT are itching to dismiss, but I would love to hear their explanation for how the Falklands war was initiated by the Prime Minister of the UK.
      Rather mirroring the rhetoric and subsequent actions of General Galtieri & his merry junta in invading another country’s territory and subjugating unwilling inhabitants, President Kirchner may actually make the male respondent unwittingly accurate.
      But I doubt that was the scriptwriter or director’s intention.

         8 likes

      • Geoff says:

        I look at it more so that those under 40 who have no recollection of 1982 and are watching LTIH take such statements as read. Mix in the anti Thatcher sentiment post her passing (contrast with Mandela) our young are being lied to and brainwashed and the BBC are at the helm.

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        • flexdream says:

          In the news about Mandela, I didn’t hear a single mention about Mrs Thatcher’s role in bringing in black majority rule in Zimbabwe and ending the war. I heard plenty about her opposition to sanctions against South Africa though (and nothing about the trade the black led ‘front line’ states were carrying out with South Africa).

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  31. chrisH says:

    I`ve just heard on The World Tonight that a “British surgeon” has been killed in Syria.
    I did wonder what happened to them all after those Labour contracts allowed for out-of hours payments…but is Aleppo within the agreed call-out charge zone…or was his Tom Tom skewiff?
    British surgeon eh?…not a jihadist nutjob wanting to have a bit of a rumble between outpatients appointments then?
    The BBC calls him surgeon…we`d best call him a terrorist who picked the wrong place to hone his “skills”.

       13 likes

    • +james says:

      There are plenty of orthopaedic surgeons already in Syria. They amputate the heads of Christians.

         16 likes

      • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

        Albeeba news at 10 has spent 10 minutes on tne story and used it’s number one reporter Lyse ducette. And rightly so if he was a surgeon working for the good of humanity there.
        RT had an in depth report about a masacre in damascus. Whole families beheaded, humans tossed into bread ovens and roasted alive. Bbc report? Zzzzzzz…zzzzzz..zzzzz
        Sweet F A .
        Go figure.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Did he by chance leave on his rounds via Glasgow airport?

         5 likes

  32. George R says:

    Which Muslims in Syria is BBC-NUJ concerned for?

    Any of these?

    1.) (Nov 2013)-

    “NHS doctor cleared of joining Syria jihad wants to go back to work.
    “Shajul Islam was due to stand trial alongside co-accused Jubair Chowdhury and his brother Najul Islam at Kingston Crown Court but walked free today.
    “The trio were accused of kidnapping and assisting the kidnap of two photojournalists John Cantlie and Dutchman Jeroen Oerlemans.
    “CPS dropped case as it emerged the alleged victims could not give evidence.”
    By TOM KELLY and NICK FAGGE

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2500915/Case-NHS-doctor-accused-kidnapping-British-photographer-Syria-dropped.html#ixzz2nm53PDXo

    2.) (Nov 2013)-

    “The Al Qaeda fanatic from Britain who funded jihad trip to Syria by mugging Londoners with a Taser.
    “Choukri Ellekhlifi, 22, was originally from Morocco but living in Paddington.
    “Along with two other men he used a stun-gun to rob people in Belgravia.
    “He used the proceeds to fund a trip to the Middle East to fight in Syria.
    “Died on August 11 near Aleppo while attacking pro-government forces.”
    By DUNCAN GARDHAM

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516137/The-Al-Qaeda-fanatic-Britain-funded-jihad-trip-Syria-mugging-Londoners-Taser.html#ixzz2nm6KyBqW

    3.) (July, 2013)-

    “How British” [Muslim] “women are joining the jihad in Syria.”

    (8 min video clip)

    http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-rebels-jihad-british-foreign-assad

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  33. Pounce says:

    The bias the bBC has towards Islamic terrorism:
    UK doctor ‘murdered’ in Syrian jail
    The above is the current bBC headline on its internet news website. It tells me that a British doctor who went to Syria against the governments instructions found himself not only locked up, by as of last night hanging by his neck inside prison. To the bBC this is a crime worse than, well murder. Now compare the above with how the bBC reported the murder of Soldier Lee Rigby. Not once has the bBC reported the fact:
    ” UK Soldier ‘murdered’ on London street.”
    We had:
    Philip Hammond pays tribute to Woolwich murder victim
    and
    Woolwich attack: Drummer Lee Rigby was ‘loving father’
    And
    Woolwich attack: Drummer Lee Rigby named as victim
    And
    Woolwich attack: Victim Lee Rigby ‘had a wry sense of humour’
    And
    Woolwich attack: Lee Rigby ‘dedicated and proud soldier’
    And
    Woolwich attack: Who was Drummer Lee Rigby?
    And
    Woolwich attack: Lee Rigby named as victim
    And
    Woolwich attack: Saxilby residents shocked by house search
    And
    Anjem Choudary refuses to ‘abhor’ Woolwich attack
    And
    Woolwich residents in shock over Lee Rigby murder

    In fact to this day the bBC hasn’t reported the relgious murder of Soldier Lee Rigby as it has the death of somebody (sporting a suspicious Islamic beard) who we are told went to help the peoples of Syria. (Yeah right)

    That people is why the leftwing traiotrs at the bBC should all be sacked, deported to the nearest Islamic country and told to live the life they encourage the rest of us to live. I’m sure the cock sucking arseholes at the bBC will love to find how accommodating Islamic is to homosexuals.

    The bBC, the propaganda mouthpiece for Islamic terrorism

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  34. David Kay says:

    now that the grieving over that dead terrorist nissan main dealer is over on al beeb’s news24 propaganda channel, ive started watching it again.

    Still not seen a bloke presenting the sports news. In the real world, not that alternate reality beeboids live in, most women hate sports (except tennis). Why do they have so many women presnting sports news?

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  35. Geoff says:

    Double standards at the beeb, noteable ex jailbird dies they only give it 5 minutes of coverage, should we expect a team of reporters covering his funeral and fawning talking heads giving a tribute?

    Probably not he wasnt a murderer….

       5 likes

  36. AsISeeIt says:

    Sometimes BBC Radio 4 comedy is really funny. No, I mean it… sometimes the BBC really make me laugh. Look at this –

    ‘The Now Show returns, saving you from the trouble of keeping up with the news by providing a topical mix of stand up, sketches and songs that tell you everything you need to know. ‘

    Everything you need to know! Hahahaha

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  37. AsISeeIt says:

    Doctor, Doctor… this prescription you gave me for my flu…. I think there’s been some mistake. The pharmacist couldn’t do anything with it… He said you’ve given him your holiday shopping list… these aren’t real medicines are they…? RPG, AK47, Sarin, 37mm AA, T-62, Sarin…?

       6 likes

  38. Thoughtful says:

    Food Banks!

    Just a thought which has crossed my mind, but has anyone ever heard of them giving out Halal food, or ever seen an Asian face amongst those queuing up?

    Seeing as the corrupt usual suspects are first in line for anything which is free, I would have expected to have seen loads of them. I know that there needs to be a referral for a food bank so I have to make an assumption that Muslims are exempt from having their benefits suspended.

    I wonder if anyone reading these pages has any information which might help give some further insight to this suspicion ?

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  39. Joshaw says:

    Not directly related to the BBC, except that the views expressed will not be heard until Hell freezes over:

    Daniel Hannan memorial tribute to Margaret Thatcher

    I haven’t always agreed with Daniel Hannan but I wish I could speak like that. I’ve downloaded it to keep.

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  40. Alan Larocka says:

    Lots of hand-wringing last night about a ‘British’ orthopedic surgeon apparently ‘murdered’ in Syria. According to the BBC, this righteous and noble individual was so moved by the scenes of devastation and suffering he headed straight to the ‘rebel’ area and was promptly captured by the government forces. This sounds to me like another UK based wannabe Jihadi getting in over his head once he reached this hell-hole, and once captured by government forces realised that no amount of alluh ahkbars was going to save him and then wanted the UK goverment to help him.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      One shouldn’t jump to conclusions, but equally the BBC seem terribly keen to take at face value the claim that the good doctor had gone merely for humanitarian purposes. When I heard on Today that it had been planned for George Galloway to meet him on his release, it suddenly became harder not to make that jump.

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      • Pounce says:

        I see another hero of the left:
        “Ronnie Biggs” has kicked the bucket (I just hope he suffered in acute pain for these last few years)
        Now that the thug is dead, deport his fucking son back to Brazil.

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  41. NotaSheep MaybeaGoat says:

    The BBC report on the UK jobless figure falling to 2009 levels ends thus: ‘Average weekly earnings growth including bonuses picked up by 0.9% in the three months to October compared with a year earlier, the ONS said, a slight improvement on the three months to September.
    Excluding bonuses, pay grew by 0.8%.
    But this is still well below the level of inflation – currently running at 2.1% – meaning that people’s living standards are falling in real terms.’
    The BBC always ready to push a Labour Party line.

       8 likes

    • John Anderson says:

      The Office for National Statistics released the latest inflation figures along with the unemployment figures at the same time. But in the Reuters story the whole accent is on the employment pick-up – inflation gets a couple of lines at the end of a long long story on employment.

      The BBC are indeed giving them equal prominence in their radio headlines. To dilute the good news on employment ?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Yes but have the jobless figures fallen by the cruel policy of stopping claimants benefits for utterly spurious reasons so they have nothing to live on?
      A quarter of all claimants in a 9 month period had their benefits suspended (stopped). Many of these would have paid the iniquitous national ‘insurance’ only to find that the benefits are being paid to some immigrant who has paid nothing and is more entitled to the money that this countries citizens.

      I don’t know if anyone here has any faith in lefty Dave & his Mob of posh boys, but I think he’d sell every white face down the river if he could make a couple of quid from it.

      The man is a disgrace, and certainly not a Conservative as I know them.

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  42. Pounce says:

    Oh look bBC headlines
    FCO criticised over UK doctor death
    The Foreign Office (FCO) has been accused of not doing enough to help secure the release of UK doctor Abbas Khan, before he died in a Syrian jail.

    And here is what the bBC doesn’t tell you:
    UK closes embassy in Syria as security situation deteriorates

    and here is what the British Gov has to say on its foreign travel advice website:
    The FCO advise against all travel to the whole country.
    The Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) advise against all travel to Syria. British nationals in Syria should leave now by any practical means. The FCO is not able to provide consular services, and won’t be able to help your evacuation from the country.

    In June 2013, the Syrian government issued a new law stating that individuals who enter Syrian territories illegally will be punished by a prison sentence of 5 to 10 years and/or a fine of 5 to 10 million Syrian pounds.

    And the brother of Mr (I want to help terrorists) Khan is allowed to promote the message by the bBC that Britian let his brother down. No you twat, you let your brother down, by letting him go, your brother let himself down by disregarding common sense by travelling to a war zone,so don’t go blaming the rest of us for your fucking Islamic blood-lust.and to the bBC, he is the victim here.
    The bBC, the propaganda mouthpiece for radical Islamic terrorism

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