45 Responses to ICE BABY….

  1. chrisH says:

    No doubt it will now be seen as a personal odyssey-a voyage of discovery for all concerned.
    Maybe even the equivalent of an Aborigine walkabout…well, obviously using ice skates, killing lots of whales with diesel effluent and ruining a pristine and fragile environment with old Soviet crocks that blast through ice(or not, as the case may be).
    Definitely Putins year wasn`t it?…maybe we should flog him the Mary Rose and a flotilla of pedalos so he can hunt down terrorists in Dagestan…very eco friendly Vlad, and Allan Carr is willing to lead the armada!
    Hope this crock of a ship gets a berth on Camden Lock after this-could do with a laugh!

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  2. Span Ows says:

    the very fact that there are Guardian and BBC personnel on board speaks volumes: they are there with one purpose only which has blown up in their faces. Even National Geographic etc are questioning the real motives of the expedition.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      The real motive is obvious: a media stunt with which to proselytize. They brought members of the church nunziate (BBC and Guardian) along so their clergy could preach to the masses. Google helped fund this on some level as well. They had some branding and marketing coordinator on board (listed on the science team page, no less), and she wasn’t riding for free. Branding and Marketing. Says it all, really.

      That actually makes it all the more pathetic. Not even the great and powerful Google could tell them to get the hell out because the ice was coming in. They’re one of the most evil companies on the planet, so it’s not surprising.

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  3. DownBoy says:

    Be prepared for some fantasyland damage limitation from the Ship of Fools ‘scientists’ on their return home. This whole expensive folly will also continue to be downplayed by the BBC and misdescribed to take attention away from the original warmist propaganda mission.

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  4. DownBoy says:

    I’d also like to hear from the actual crew of the Russian ship regarding what happened and what their opinions of the smug, spoilt greeny fools on board is. I wonder what the Russian is for ‘tossers’ and ‘prats’.

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Some of those Russians are apparently going to stay there for a couple more months at least as a skeleton crew until the ice thaws enough or is cleared to free the ship. Poor bastards. I wonder if any of the BBC/Guardian/Science Team crowd gave them any of their own belongings to help make their time pass a little easier.

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  5. Dave s says:

    Hilarious.The incompetence and fantasies of the liberal collides with reality.
    May it be the first of many collisions with reality this fateful year.

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    • The General says:

      “Collisions with reality” do not impact on those with a left wing agenda.

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  6. John Anderson says:

    One of the Guardian/BBC idiots has been tweeting about the rescue operation. Instead of giving the blow-by-blow details of what has been happening – ie the NEWS – he is twittering on about the choice of puddings he was offered on the rescue ship.

    Ship of Fools indeed. And we will be paying this prat.

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    • John Anderson says:

      I bet the clown was not on the last helicopter out. Still people left on the Ship of Fools – but this smug idiot is ,more interested in his food.

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  7. joed says:

    On the BBC website this morning, those on board are simply described as “passengers” – no mention of them being global warming political whoremongers – oh sorry, I meant scientists and journalists. Nor any mention of the BBC having anything to do with the financing of it. They’re just hoping this will go away as quickly as possible…

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  8. Joe Public says:

    With 3 x chopper flights needed to evacuate the tourists, who pays for the extra 2 x flights to evacuate their equipment?

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    • chrisH says:

      Suppose there`s no “earth audit” for the damage done to Dear Gaia by all those oily ships…cost of wasted manpower in attending these fools…helicopter fuel blowing over the seal pup colony…choking them and melting the polar bears ice floes still further.
      Let`s hope some genuine mariners didn`t pay a high price for the BBCs grandstanding on behalf of Aussie academics with business interests, and Guardian scumboats fleeing from reality as ever.

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  9. Euchromatic says:

    Off-topic, but did anyone hear the outrageous anti-UKIP bias on ‘The Last Days of Farage’?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03m7zb7/15_Minute_Musical_Series_8_The_Last_Days_of_Farage/

    I suppose they’ll be broadcasting a similar skit lampooning New Labour any day now?

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  10. ember2013 says:

    BBC News had some “expert” discussing the rescue.

    It included the phrases: “Something to tell their grandchildren about” (like it was analagous to going to war) and “Freak weather conditions impeded the journey” (because in the BS bubble of climate science the Antarctic should be free of ice.)

    I had to take a few pain killers, after hearing that, because you can only perform so many facepalms before developing a headache.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘Freak’, otherwise known as ‘extreme’ weather, otherwise known as ‘global weirding’.

      Melting ice, loads of ice, extremely hot, extremely cold, loads of rain, no rain – all symptoms of climate change, doncha know.

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  11. The Sage says:

    Here are the key sentences from the BBC story:
    “Despite being trapped, the scientists continued their experiments, measuring temperature and salinity through cracks in the surrounding ice. One of the aims was to track how quickly the Antarctic’s sea ice was disappearing”.

    Strange then that the ship should be trapped when the “scientists” were in Antarctica to investigate the disappearance of ice.
    Don’t forget this group of eco-idiots was supposed to be following the exact route of Australian explorer Douglas Mawson who, it seems, did not get stuck in the ice 100 years ago and before so-called global warming. Strange, but also hilarious!

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    • Number 7 says:

      Mawson’s ship was stopped by shallow water (close to the shoreline) – not ice.

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    • Arthur Penney says:

      Yeh – the ice disappeared so rapidly that the 2 miles of pack ice from the open sea when they got stuck shrunk to 16 miles when they were ‘rescued’.

      Of course the vessel is still there

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  12. Phil Ford says:

    Just had the severe misfortune of hearing a report on The World At One concerning The Ship of Fools. Apparently they’ve all been airlifted onto a nearby Australian ship. The Beeboid then ‘interviewed’ a commentator in the studio. Only, this wasn’t an ‘interview’ it was an opportunity for a fully-signed-up warmist zealot to restate the agreed party line on climate change and how ‘important’ the work of this ill-fated – but ‘incredibly professional’ – adventure was to the future of the planet.

    No criticism, no intervention whatsoever from the Beeboid.

    Job done, BBC. Job done. BBC ‘impartiality’ at work, people.

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    • johnnythefish says:

      The lazy bastards don’t even need to get up off their fat arses – the information is a mouse-click away:

      ‘Whenever the ice at the North and South Pole is mentioned, it is mostly in the context of melting ice triggered by global warming. However, the sea ice in Antarctica – in contrast to that in the Arctic – has proved to be remarkably robust. New measurements have now confirmed that. As the U.S. space agency NASA announced, the sea ice in the Antarctic has extended over an area of ​​19.47 million square meters at the end of September. That is the highest since measurements began in 1979.’

      http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/10/22/nasa-announces-new-record-growth-of-antarctic-sea-ice-extent/

      But of course it’s not because they are lazy bastards, it’s because they are lying left wing bastards shamelessly peddling an eco-socialist agenda.

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  13. John Anderson says:

    News at One on Radio 4 had an interview with a stupid woman who was fully supportive of the intrepid Fools. She made a few errors –

    1 Thank goodness the captain and crew are safely rescued. No they are not – they are still on the Russina vessel.
    2 The trip had strong scientific objectives. Rubbish, it was just a very brief visit, most of the “scintists” were PhD students in other disciplines with nil focus on the Antarctcic.
    3 The entrapment by ice was a freak accident because a lot of ice had just been broken off the Mertz glacier. Nonsense – the glacier was damaged 3 years ago, the ice has been around since then.
    4 She had the gall to make a spiteful remark about men of Mawson’s time – men with beards and dogsleds – compared with today’s cleverclogs scientists.

    It was a total whitewash by a selected “expert” who seemed to be pig-ignorant about several aspects of the whole fiasco. Her sole purpose was to defend the Global Warming cult. Disgraceful bias as ever by the BBC..

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    • Number 7 says:

      No mention of the “scientists” ignoring an order from the captain to return to the ship, from a jaunt onto the ice, due deteriorating weather conditions.

      No mention of the above in relation to the Ship being trapped.

      No mention of the assistance given by Anthony Watts and Jo D’Aleo with weather forecasts due to the “professionals” on board not having a clue about meteorology.

      Bias by omission to an extreme m’lud.

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        Indead, I have been told that the morons did not have a meteorologist on board.

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        • David Preiser (USA) says:

          They wouldn’t need a meteorologist. All they had to do was rent the same basic equipment fishing boats have or make an arrangement with the authorities to get regular updates.

          As I mentioned yesterday on the open thread, they didn’t bother to get any real equipment to monitor the weather, or even attempt to get regular updates from elsewhere until it was too late. These so-called scientists simply didn’t care because they’re convinced of their own intellectual superiority and the invincibility of their religious faith.

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          • Richard Pinder says:

            It is like the BBC seminar on Climate Change, you would assume they would have invited at least one causational climate scientist on that seminar of the “Best scientific experts”.

            You would also expect at least one meteorologist on a shipload of scientists on a scientific expedition to the Antarctic.

            But, no, in both cases my assumptions where found to be wrong.

            Both that BBC seminar, and that ship, where made up of a 100 percent concentration, of morons.

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            • David Preiser (USA) says:

              No, I don’t think one would expect a meteorologist on a palaeoclimatology and eco-tourist expedition. I would, however, expect someone who charges $8000 plus per head to have planned on having proper weather reports, and wasn’t so arrogant as to treat his professional ship captain like an annoying servant and ignore everyone telling him to get a move on because they’ve all noticed the ice closing in.

              If whatever research they actually did is claimed to prove the ice is melting anyway, the BBC will still believe it.

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  14. stuart says:

    do you know who these lot remind me off,these posh sounding aid workers who usually come from the leafy surburbs in devon and sussex who go to wars zones like syria and iraq in there do gooding capacity thinking they are helping out people who in fact hate there guts because they are infidels,and hey presto al qaeda end up capturing them and threatening to cut there heads off while begging the british goverment to get them out of the plight they put themselves in the first place,these spoilt mommys boys and girls out there in the antartic are just the same as these aid workers by putting themselves in unnecessary danger,the bbc love people like this but they get on my bloody nerves with there irresponsible behavior.

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  15. Oldbob says:

    Just watched a clown from the BBC on the ship of fools telling us how wonderful it is to be rescued grinning and gurning into his camera. He and the rest of the idiots were behaving like a bunch of infants playing in the snow and you could tell that they simply had no sense of how much of a knife edge the rescue effort must have been on. These people are a complete and utter insult to the likes of Scott and the rest of all the explorers that have died in the polar regions and deserve all ridicule that they have and will continue to receive.

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  16. John Alexander says:

    When you know with the religious certainty of a Beeboid the facts can always be made to fit.

    That’s how “global warming” became “climate change” without even a pause for breath.

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    • OldBloke says:

      So true John, but look out for an even newer saying, that one being of: “weather change”. Global Warming” became “climate change” became “weather change” without even a pause for breath.

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      • Arthur Penney says:

        Then it will be a ‘mild breeze’.

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      • Lobster says:

        OldBloke, it will be interesting to see how they explain that one away as they constantly tell us that climate and weather are two entirely different things. Never understood that, personally.

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  17. Thoughtful says:

    TWATO interviewing some global warming loon.

    She was trying to say that the ship was encased in ice several miles from the coast and the position of the ship, was caused not by new ice, which we all know is the case and is backed up by Antarctic survey.

    So she blatently lied and claimed that the ship is stranded because of ‘old ice’ which had broken off a glacier and then refrozen, despite all evidence to the contrary.

    Of course all this went unchallenged and she was allowed to carry on lying to her hearts content.

    The water underneath the ice has become desalinated because of the freezing which proves it is in fact new ice and not the old ice which is preposterous!

    http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

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  18. John Anderson says:

    Pass the sick bag – here is a video clip of the inane Green politician on board the Ship of Fools :

    There needs to be a full enquiry on why and how this absurd trip was funded, whether there were any valid science objectives, why the “scientists” were so ignorant of the known conditions in the area and the fact that sea ice has been increasing year by year.

    And I am still waiting to see why the “expedition” leader was allowed to take his wife and 2 kids along for the ride. One big jolly, at taxpayer expense, now with a huge rescue bill to be paid.

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  19. John Anderson says:

    There really is a long list of questions about the follies of the Ship of Fools fiasco. Including questions about the behaviour of the Warmist media in OZ and at the BBC and Guardian :

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/02/now-that-the-ship-of-fools-is-safe-in-antarctica-tough-questions-need-to-be-asked/#more-100318

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    • johnnythefish says:

      Sounds like they already had an answer to their question and were on a mission to fabricate a few ‘findings’ to back it up. The Antarctic up until now has been the elephant in the room for the warmists because of its record ice levels and they obviously think it’s about time it became a player in the global warming story.

      Meanwhile the effect of Pacific Ocean currents (El Niño/La Niña) goes ignored by climate models and their CO2-obsessed creators unless, of course, it’s the cooling effect which has temporarily ‘stopped’ man-made warming:

      ‘Anyone with a little common sense who’s reading the abstract and the hype around the blogosphere and the Meehl et al papers will logically now be asking: if La Niña events can stop global warming, then how much do El Niño events contribute? 50%? The climate science community is actually hurting itself when they fail to answer the obvious questions.

      And what about the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (AMO)? What happens to global surface temperatures when the AMO also peaks and no longer contributes to the warming?

      The climate science community skirts the common-sense questions, so no one takes them seriously.’

      http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/08/28/another-paper-blames-enso-for-the-warming-hiatus/

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        The climate of Antarctica is relevantly isolated, so any increase in cloud cover in summer would cause cooling, as clouds would reflect solar radiation, and there is little heat input for the clouds to trap.

        The Arctic has got heat input from the Gulf stream, so an increase in clouds has caused the only area of the Earth undergoing a continuation of Global Warming due to thermal inertia.

        But indications are that even the Arctic has started to cool due to a trend towards thermal inertia coming to a total end in 2018.

        So from 2018, I am afraid there will be nothing left for the warmist morons to do other than travel on a spaceship to analyse Global Warming on the surface of the Sun, hopefully.

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  20. Buggy says:

    As soon as our representatives among this group of permanently adolescent, self-righteous navel-gazing bastards return to our blighted shores you’ll need a crowbar and some dynamite to get them off the sofa merry-go-round (BBC Breakfast, Lorraine Kelly, Loose Women, The One Show: you know the drill).

    Interviewers’ incisive questions will include : “Were you very frightened ?” “Was it very cold ?” “How did you keep your spirits up ?” and something which will allow the unfrozen twat to whitter on without any interruption or incredulous spluttering about how AGW is real and important and hand over some cash now to show yewww care.

    There will be absolutely NO questioning of the motives of the interviewee, no suggestion that the Antarctic might be a slightly dodgy place to go if you’re a complete tosser with your head stuck firmly up your arse with regard to actual conditions there, no naughty telling the audience that these idiots have actually been imprisoned by the very ice the proof of whose non-existence was the whole bloody point of their bloody bastard voyage (‘cos that might occasion a few titters from the audience, which would never do). Also no suggestion that they might contribute something towards the cost of their rescue, nor that perhaps, given their unshakable belief in the thawing Antarctic, they should have stayed with the still-stranded crew until the ice melts in the near future and frees them to go on their idiotic way.

    Thus will the narrative be established as ‘poor innocent darlings in peril’ rather than the actual ‘stupid, overindulged bastards hilariously hoist by their own self-regard.’

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  21. John Anderson says:

    It now looks as though the rescue ship Aurora Australis may have difficulty breaking through to the open sea. This reports that it is making only a quarter of a knot per hour – with ice right across to the horizon :

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/02/rescue-ship-aurora-australis-slowed-to-a-crawl-fighting-heavy-sea-ice-to-reach-open-water/

    You can manipulate the URL of the image to give later bow views – this is the latest I could get, it really looks grim again :

    http://images.aad.gov.au/webcams/aurora/14/A140030300A.jpg

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    • David Preiser (USA) says:

      Turney’s backers better have deep pockets. The Chinese will want the damages and expenses paid, which is their right by law, the Australian Coast Guard will want the same, and the captain and/or owner of the Shokalskiy will want reimbursement if it turns out the environmentals ruined one of the Argos, never mind what might happen if the religious pilgrims decide to sue the ship captain for getting them stuck instead of Turney and his church.

      Too bad it will be impossible to get an FOI result on how much the BBC actually contributed to this little propaganda exercise, because journalism. No way was it just a few grand for room and board for their two (I guess 1.5, technically) Timothys.

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  22. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Ship of Fools update from the Warmist bishop. Don’t start laughing until you’ve read the whole thing. Yes, he’s essentially creating the groundwork to blame man-made Global Warming for his predicament.

    One Week On

    The conditions we are experiencing over the Shokalskiy are a result of the frequent and deep low pressure systems that encircle the continent. In combination with a funnelling effect from the ice sheet, these lows are producing strong and pervasive winds from the southeast. The wind is not unusual but what is unexpected is the major reconfiguration of thick multi-year sea ice to the east of the Mertz Glacier. In 2010, a large iceberg known as B09B, calved from the continent and collided spectacularly with the extended tongue of the Mertz Glacier. The knock-on effect has been that Commonwealth Bay has filled with sea ice (termed ‘fast ice’), preventing direct access from the sea to Mawson’s main hut at Cape Denison. Unfortunately for the AAE, it appears the region has just undergone a massive reconfiguration of sea ice, years after the loss of the Mertz Glacier tongue.

    Does anyone seriously believe that this scientific expedition was ever going to actually test their hypotheses and draw anything other than this conclusion?

    LOL, YCMIU bit:

    Meanwhile on board the Shokalskiy, moral remains good and the team are pulling together in an extraordinary way. Everyone is working hard to support one another. Take a look at the video diaries on the Intrepid Science YouTube Channel to see what we are up to. We are all keeping busy, with twice daily briefings outlining all the information we have to hand, alongside classes through the day (knot tying, languages, yoga, photography and many others) while the science programme has continued as best we can.

    Like any religiously observant organization, they’ll be doing all these summer camp activities in between whatever the Warmist equivalent is of Vigils, Matins, Vespers, etc.

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  23. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Ship of Fools update: the latest comment on WUWT:

    Jason Mundy acting director of the Australian Antarctic Division stated on ABC radio that Commonwealth Bay and Mawson’s Hut had been difficult to reach in “recent years”, so Chris Turney MUST have been aware of the dangers. The ongoing rescue effort has impacted on the AAD’s programs and delayed vital supplies to Casey.

    It was known to be difficult to reach, but presumably Gaia would provide. I said earlier that the vegetarian passengers had prevented them from making the appropriate animal sacrifice before setting off, and I see no reason to change that opinion.

    There’s a link to the ABC report about the ever-increasing bill for the Aurora Australis, which was supposed to be taking supplies to proper scientists elsewhere, and is now itself practically trapped after having to rescue the Mawson’s Hut pilgrims. I hope they at least got to burn some incense or leave an offering somewhere before casually strolling back to the ship……

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  24. David Preiser (USA) says:

    Google is definitely a sponsor of the Ship of Fools. Not only did they send some branding and marketing coordinator on the trip, but they sponsored a competition for the public in Australia and New Zealand to win places on board as well:

    Doodle 4 Google and WIN!

    Doodle 4 Google was back earlier this year. The pencils were sharpened and we were swamped with brilliant entries. With Commonwealth Bank of Australia, the lucky winners are sending their teachers south with us on the Australasian Antarctic Expedition.

    Two teachers went, one from each country. They were there as part of the propaganda exercise. So Google contributed a good amount of money and resources to this little shindig.

    Notice at the bottom of the page they say “You may have seen, heard, or read about us”, and list Radio NZ, the BBC, and the Guardian. That’s on the static footer of the whole website, acknowledging the BBC’s promotion and support.

    Your license fee hard at work.

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