MID WEEK OPEN THREAD….

It’s Wednesday and it’s also Budget Day!  I see that the comrades at the BBC have sent Evan Davies up to Newcastle to gain insight into opinion on the state of the economy. Ah, that impartiality – I’m just surprised it wasn’t Liverpool airport! Anyway, a new Open Thread for you!

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267 Responses to MID WEEK OPEN THREAD….

  1. Eric says:

    Yep, it’s always fun to see where the BBC send their intrepid reports for a vox pop on the budget: a Working Men’s Club in Barnsley, a Food Bank in South Shields, a Mosque in Bradford and a Community Hall in Tonypandy.

    “And in the studio this afternoon we have Owen Jones…….”

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    • Beez says:

      A fruitless journey up North one would assume, given the BBC’s preconceived ideas about Tories regardless of what the budget may be like.

      We could be the most prosperous nation on Earth, but as long as those evillll Tories are at the helm, you just know the BBC will do their up most to piss on the parade.

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      • Eric says:

        Fruitless maybe but someone else is paying for it and it gives them a rare chance to rub shoulders with some real working class types that you don’t find in a Hampstead bistro or Camden wine bar..

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        • Mark says:

          Last time Mandelson went up north, he confused mushy peas with guacamole IIRC.

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          • AsISeeIt says:

            Have you just coined a new proverb? If so, it’s a very good one. As I understand it, when they visit Old Trafford, most beeboids prefer it up the Stretford End.

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          • chrisH says:

            I well remember sifting clothes sent up to the north east at the time of the miners strike in 84/5
            I got my bundles sent from N10-22 in London…Stamford Hill sort of via Hornsea to near Enfiled!
            You should have seen the colliery kids and parents….a right load of Lord Fauntleroys with pipes and moleskin patches!
            Come Saturday night at the Fed though…oh dear, lots of trouble and stripping/debagging-and not always in a good way.
            And not one bloody writer or ballet dancing critic came out of that Lost Generation…only loads of embittered grievance mongers on the sick, and ringing Vanessa or Esther to drone on in the day.
            They ring Winifred or Martha these days-so that`s progress eh?
            We need to expand on Kielder…ha`away the lads as Jimmy Carter said-last one to make sense up there!

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    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      I reckon the budget has completely wrong-footed Millibands bunch of idiots, not a bad budget at all , all things considered. Labour must never, ever hold power again…..but people i suppose forget….and back to square one we go…..depressing.

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      • Guest Who says:

        No budget has ever pleased everyone, but what I am reading so far is that it has done better for more, than many.
        On top of the encouraging economic figures as books get rebalanced, this should be a disaster for Labour, who seem capable only of Ballchinian hand gestures and Millberk mantra parroting.
        If the BBC again decides the ineptitude of the actual opposition is so great they have to step in and do the job themselves, it will be hard for them to retain a leg to stand on when it comes to claims of impartiality.

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      • Eric says:

        I missed the budget live but did see Mililband’s reply and it was the most wretchedly inept performance I have witnessed from a party leader. Ed Balls was nodding like one of those toy dogs seen on the back seat of a Ford Escort circa 1978, Harriet Dromey had a face like a smacked arse and even the Eagle brothers looked more miserable than usual. It wasn’t a case of Osborne pulling a rabbit from a hat. The only rabbit was Miliband – caught in the headlights without anything to say.

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  2. john in cheshire says:

    Mr Davies would have done better going walkabout in Salford based on his recent negative observations about the place.

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    • chrisH says:

      As yet, the rainbow rickshaw has yet to appear at Salford Docks….and it would need a bloody good lock and shotgun riders if it did.
      Poor Evan would get his spats wet had he chosen to do a Quentin Crisp up there…although they DO like crisps.
      But only for breakfast usually.
      So-no Queen walkabout here…no jokes please, Evan did at least buy a postcard of the Tyne Bridge I believe…

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    • ROBERT BROWN says:

      Yep, Davis should wear his ‘on the pull’ gear, ripped jeans, biker jacket, chains, yes he does wear this stuff, oop north in Salford……mind you, some of those northern boys are a bit rough……..

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  3. Llareggub says:

    Worth noting the relationship between a BBC news heading and the story below it. ‘Israel attacks’ , says the headline which portrays Israel as the aggressor, but you have to read further to find out that the attack was a response to a Syrian attack.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-26641815

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    • Pounce says:

      Come on, this is the bBC, anything Israel does is always wrong. Personally I often wonder if the Jews had been wiped out in 1948,56,67,73 what the liberal stance would be on the region?

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    • Rufus McDufus says:

      if Israel is nuked and totally wiped out, the BBC will still say it’s their fault.

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  4. Pounce says:

    The hypocrisy from the bBC:
    The growth of gay retirement homes
    The bBC airs an article about the concerns about that segment of the gay community which still feels discriminated against. The Gay pensioner
    “As gay rights advance across the US, there is one group that feels it has long been neglected and isolated – the elderly. But that may now be changing, with a series of retirement housing projects opening to serve the gay community.”

    Ah bless, but this is the bBC, you know the same bBC which refused a gay Muslim to speak out about the Islamic community. Which is why they end the above with this little heartwarming tale about how a gay man called Scott who no doubt has faced discrimination at the hands of white Christians (well according to the article) found acceptance from Somali women:
    “Scott Quail tells a story of when he was in the lift with a man he was dating and they started to kiss. The elevator opened and in walked a couple of Somali ladies and they just kind of looked and smiled and that was it. And it felt good because now I feel I don’t have to hide myself from them.”

    I wonder if our Scott would like to kiss his boyfriend in front of Londons Somali population and see if they are all smiles. New pound to a penny , I bet they don’t.

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    • pah says:

      How did they know they were Somalis I wonder? Did they ask their ethnicity? Do Somalis carry signs with them? Do the intrepid couple speak Somali? Is one of the an ethnographer? Were they carrying flags? Did they keep saying nautical phrases and wear eye patches?
      Or is the story cods?

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  5. George R says:

    INBBC: still confused after all these years.

    Euphemistic INBBC says that a ‘rebel’, a ‘rebel leader,’ a ‘militant’ of a ‘militant group’ may be dead.

    It seems that, in reality, INBBC is talking about the Chechen Islamic jihadist murderer, Doku Umarov.

    Two contrasting report on this, which use different language:-

    1.
    ‘The Long War Journal’:

    “Islamic Caucasus Emirate confirms death of emir Doku Umarov”

    By BILL ROGGIO.

    Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2014/03/islamic_caucasus_emi_1.php#ixzz2wOfNVJAq

    2.

    INBBC:

    “Chechen rebel leader Doku Umarov ‘dead'”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26634403

    1.)

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  6. George R says:

    For INBBC: Islamic Jihad in CHINA.

    INBBC has, report 1.) below, but not, report 2.)-

    1.)
    “China: Two dead in Xinjiang violence”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-26641546

    2.)
    “The fight against China is our Islamic responsibility and we have to fulfill it”

    By Robert Spencer.

    [Excerpt]:-
    “Abdullah Mansour couldn’t have made it plainer: he is fighting against the Chinese because he is a Muslim. He believes that it is his Islamic responsibility to fight against the Chinese. Other Muslims the world over have proclaimed that they believe it is their Islamic responsibility to fight against the Americans, the British, the Australians, the Indians, and so on and on.

    “Yet Western non-Muslim analysts routinely ignore these declarations, or reflexively prescribe as the solution initiatives to aid Muslims economically, and to partner with Muslims in various ventures. When these remedies only embolden the jihadists, the analysts just apply them again and again, in the vain hope, apparently, that someday they will work.”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/the-fight-against-china-is-our-islamic-responsibility-and-we-have-to-fulfill-it

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    • noggin says:

      here is the typical example, of Al BBC narrative wheeling out Iranian Press tv s Ridley as a “voice of reason”? … lots of bleating about poor Wega victims
      oppressed etc, then just cast your eyes on Georges post
      … thank goodness for D Murray

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      • stewart says:

        Would like to know more about german court room murder , the further we got into interview the less it sounded like what was on the tin.

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      • Rob says:

        Yvonne Ridley who purposely went to Afghanistan to promote the Taliban and set-up a fake kidnap then conversion as a publicity stunt. A mouthpiece for Militant Islam and a master practitioner of Taqiyya.

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      • Pounce says:

        Bloody hell, imagine waking up to that ugly trout.

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    • Mark says:

      Kipling summed it up : Keep paying the Danegeld, and still you’ll never get rid of the Dane.

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  7. Pounce says:

    A success story about the liberal attitude towards Islam:
    Female genital mutilation: London hospitals treat 4,000 patients
    Nearly 4,000 women and girls have been treated for female genital mutilation (FGM) in London’s hospitals since 2009, according to new figures.

    4000 Women in London alone over the past 5 years and not 1 prosecution . In the above article not once does the bbC mention just which brand of people carry out this evil act, in fact the so called liberal experts will tell you, it is wrong to stigmatise the people who carry out this act and that we should tar everybody with the same brush so no allegations of racism can be raised.

    FMG which has been illegal in the Uk since 1985 has seen the total number of zero people been charged for carrying out this act. We can thank the sensitive nature of the liberal elite for that.

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    • Pounce says:

      Regards that liberal sensitivity , here is the photo the bBC use for their article:
      _73666964_fgm_getty.jpg

      Different picture when the bBC airs a story from a British school.

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      • Bangernofski says:

        BBC Radio London right now on the barbaric practice of FGM. Lots of mention of culture, not one of the religion of peace that is involved. Incredibly seen as our problem, our fault. We are all guilty meme. Utterly disgraceful.

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      • George R says:

        Yes, and Islam Not BBC (INBBC), don’t even mention Islam in connection with FGM.

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        • noggin says:

          V Feltz mentioned gentital examinations
          being done in France in schools on this issue, and she couldn t imagine it being allowed in a Cof E school, a Jewish school, or a Catholic school? ..
          HELLO!
          ….it is deliberate … the bloody wilful ignorance of fact, unbelieeeeeevable!

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    • Dave s says:

      The reality is that in 1950s London and other cities this practice was almost completely unknown, Many other things like street knife and gun crime were also very unusual.
      We all know what has changed. So do the stupid liberals but they refuse to face reality.
      Until it smashes them in the face. Like Russia in the Crimea.
      Just the first of reality’s blows to come

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      • ROBERT BROWN says:

        We should help them to be smashed in the face Dave, good and proper, pound them, hurt them, ridicule them constantly, we can do that now thanks to the internet……no mercy.

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      • Danny Howard says:

        Street Gangs became a national concern in the United Kingdom from around 1870 onwards. Newspapers began to carry reports of their fights and they became known generally as ‘scuttlers’ in Manchester, ‘sloggers’ and later ‘peaky blinders’ in Birmingham, and ‘cornermen’ in Liverpool. Their principle pastime was fighting territorial battles against their neighbours, armed with buckled belts, sticks, stones, knives and even guns.

        Brian McDonald; “Street Gangs” (excerpts from the Gangs of London, 2010, p.59-72)

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        • Pounce says:

          Danny all well and good saying that, but in the 1870s, the old bill was relatively new. However the police did their job and ensured that thugs of all calibres were a thing of the past.
          Are you now saying that just becasue there were gangs in the 1870s that we shouldn’t complain about the black (yes black) gangs today which run drugs, rape girls and who have murdered more black men in London alone since 2001 than British soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan.

          People like you suck all the oxygen out of any room they walk into with their so called smart arse remarks,

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          • Danny Howard says:

            “From around 1870” not “in 1870”.

            “Are you now saying …” No.

            “their so called smart arse remarks”.

            You mean facts? Perhaps you would rather I went off on cathartic, profanity-laden, rant with repetitive use of bold text. They seem popular round here.

            The idea that gun and knife crime were “very unusual” in the 1950s is not in accordance with the historical record.

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            • johnnythefish says:

              Ah, the old leftie mantra ‘But it’s always been like that’.

              No it hasn’t. Yes, there have always been gangs, but not on the scale and with the level of violence we’ve seen over the last 20 years or so. That also goes for violent acts carried out by individuals. I remember going to see ‘A Clockwork Orange’ in 1972 and being relieved when I came out of the cinema and back to civilised reality and thinking ‘Thank God it will never happen here’. Well it has, and to some fine tune.

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            • stewart says:

              The trouble with your facts is they are all highly debatable
              First a giveaway paper that claims that Romanian lumpers are entrepreneurs now a ‘cor-blimey the krays they luved their muver’ paperback compared to this brief but authoritative picture

              http://www.historytoday.com/victor-bailey/crime-20th-century-britain

              This from the excellentTheodore Dalrymple’s ‘The leftist mentality as seen in debate’ says it all.

              Insistence that ’twas ever thus

              This is employed to deny the Golden Age, but also to rubbish ideas for improvement by suggesting that there really is no need for improvement. TD has spoken of this trick with reference to Hogarth and Gin Lane, saying that intellectuals choose the comparison that suits their purposes.

              It works like this: something that is currently bad was always bad, so you should stop trying to improve it – even if it has been shown to be improvable in the past. So the British are a nation of boorish drunks because in the 18th century they were boorish drunks, conveniently ignoring the example of what they can achieve when galvanised, as in the 19th century

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              • Beeboidal says:

                Quite right, Stewart. In 1950 there was a total of 500,000 recorded offences in England and Wales. The number of recorded offences peaked in 1995 (I think) at more than 5 million, a tenfold increase in 35 years.

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            • Pounce says:

              Dan the man wrote:|
              ““From around 1870″ not “in 1870″.”
              But Mr Pedantic , I didn’t write 1870, I wrote 1870s, the former as you quote is but one year, I on the other hand quoted the 10 years which began in 1870.

              As I said:
              “People like you suck all the oxygen out of any room they walk into with their so called smart arse remarks,

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              • Danny Howard says:

                Pounce: Exactly – and this referred to all incidences from 1870, not in 1870, or even in the 1870s.

                Dave s: “Next you will be telling us FGM was commonplace in the 1870s.” No

                Dysgwr_Cymraeg: False logic? Showing a statement to be false is false logic? I think you need to go back and study logic again.

                Andy S: “The Police were allowed to deal with them without interference.” That may be so, but that doesn’t alter the fact that the claim gun and knife crime were “very unusual” in the 1950s is demonstrably false.

                Fascinating response to someone who challenges the Gruppendenken. Insult the poster, create distracting straw men arguments, logically fallacious assumptions that draw inferences that were not made, and then one I see here quite a lot, recourse to group paranoia (the oft-repeated claim there exists some conspiracy against this site).

                PS stewart: “First a giveaway paper”. Is truth dependent on the price you pay? The data came from Companies House.

                Thank you for the reference to TD. I can’t find the original essay or talk, but I found a commentary by someone called “Colin” here. That was very interesting. This struck a chord pace your comments on CityAM.

                Any evidence that the leftie disagrees with is never good enough, or never comprehensive enough. (See also Relativism.) There is always doubt as to the integrity of the evidence, or the intentions of the people who gathered it.

                “Colin” would fit in well on this site.

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                • Dave s says:

                  The real issue is FGM. Either have something to say about it or hold your peace.

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                  • johnnythefish says:

                    Danny Boy’s interjections on this site are not only infrequent but appear to be completely random and typically pick on arguments that have strayed off topic, are less controversial and are what he considers to be factually inaccurate.

                    Quite bizarre, really.

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                • stewart says:

                  That’s because Colin is right in his analysis
                  The report, Danny,came from Duedil and as I said at the time,
                  “So immigrant and internationalist (Damian Kimmelman) sets up company with immigrant backing (Shakil Khan ) writes report that says immigrants are superior to indigenous people, at least as entrepreneurs (spivs)”
                  You promoted it as being in the (cant even give away) canary wharf free sheet City-AM,. as though that made it an absolute truth
                  I notice your not now claiming that your gangster porn paper back as a source of unassailable evidence.
                  But in case you are
                  http://www.historytoday.com/victor-bailey/crime-20th-century-britain
                  or
                  http://www.civitas.org.uk/data/RecordedCrimePer100k1950-2004.htm
                  Facts Danny don’t you just love them?

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                  • stewart says:

                    Sorry meant to post this
                    http://ukhousebubble.blogspot.com/2012/01/crime-in-britain-horrifying-truth.html
                    My point being that most of the stuff you claim to be,debate ending, facts are in fact little more than opinions
                    fair enough as that but no more than.

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                  • Danny Howard says:

                    “Facts Danny don’t you just love them?”

                    Yes. You should try using them sometime, you will find them very enlightening.

                    (1) Shakil Khan isn’t an immigrant.
                    (2) The Data comes from Companies House (and is provided on the site so you can analyze it yourself).

                    I repeat: “Any evidence that … disagrees with is never good enough, or never comprehensive enough.”

                    Show me evidence that counters their argument.

                    Your crime statistics are interesting but irrelevant. No one said crime hadn’t gone up. The claim was that knife and gun crime were “very unusual”. That is demonstrably false.

                    Dave S: FGM is a disgusting, barbaric practice.

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                    • stewart says:

                      Then you have a strnge idea of what is usual
                      “Britain. In 1950, there were just 14 violent crimes per hundred thousand people. In 1997, that number had risen to 482. In percentage terms, that is a 3200 percent increase.”
                      The report was commisioned by companies house but produced by Duedil an organisation with a clear agenda. As has Shakil Khan ,son of immigrants who seems to have lived most of his adult life anywhere but the UK.
                      He, like Kimmelman, is an internationalist and has an axe to grind legitimate, nobel perhaps,but an axe never the less. Ive allready de-constructed that report for you, it was a joke from end to end.
                      No wonder Spiv AM made so much of it.

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                    • Danny Howard says:

                      And if 13 of those 14 crimes were committed by gangs then that would be usual. Your comments remind me of Prescott who once said that under Labour all schools would be above average.

                      And I repeat, if you claim the Companies House report is wrong, then provide the data that refutes it rather than attempting to suggest that it is part of some sort of conspiracy (my but this site loves a conspiracy).

                      In the absence of facts that disprove the report it stands.

                      But there again facts are scarce on this site. Wild and unsubstantiated speculation, Gruppendenken, crass and selective interpretation, observation and confirmation bias, logical fallacies that a first-term AS student would drive a bus through, emotional ranting and paranoid delusions – those are here in abundance. Facts? Not so much.

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                    • stewart says:

                      ‘And if 13 of those 14 ‘
                      If is that one of your facts?
                      If we lump together every self employed curry chef ,Asian shop keeper employing his immigrant relatives and and Bulgarian lumper, but ignore all the existing workers displaced we can make a case for immigration being good for the economy
                      Youve also a strange idea of what ranting is

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                    • Danny Howard says:

                      “If is that one of your facts?” No. The use of the conditional was the clue.

                      “we can make a case for immigration being good for the economy” Which is why I disregarded your “de-construction” since that wasn’t what the report was saying. You clearly failed to understand it.

                      Noted that, once again, you pulled a “Colin”, attempted to denigrate the supporting data but spectacularly failed to produce anything but unsubstantiated assertions to support your “argument”.

                      “Youve also a strange idea of what ranting is”. After spending time on this site my knowledge of ranting gets better by the hour.

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                    • stewart says:

                      “No. The use of the conditional was the clue.”
                      Then what was the point if not to support your erroneous position that gang violence was usual in 1950s Britain
                      And what was your point in your brandishing that report from City AM aloft ( a report that says immigrants are more entrepreneurial than indigenous Britain’s) if it wasn’t to claim that Immigration is good for the economy?
                      And if your so sure of your ‘facts’ why has your diatribe descended to the level of personal attacks ( several posts back) Are you sure you want to call others out for ‘ranting’?

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            • Dave s says:

              Street crime was secondary in my post. Like all liberals you are incapable of addressing the real issue which is FGM. -Original post by Pounce.
              If the subject offends change the subject. Typical lefty response. Next you will be telling us FGM was commonplace in the 1870s.

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              • Dysgwr_Cymraeg says:

                Obfuscation is their method.
                Muddy the waters, deflect the argument, it is all a standard lefty tactic, like the constant name changing.
                Trolls ought to be ignored.
                The same old same old keep up the diversionary tactics, so long as they elicit a response.
                Next week he or she will be back with another name, fresh from a strategy meeting at HQ in Salford or in London.
                Best way is mot to engage their false logic.

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            • mo says:

              But Danny Howard it was not pervasive as it is today. It really is widespread today and not so then. There is a real difference. You have produced this statsitic soleely to attempt to counter a valid point. Your point though is not valid.

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        • Andy S. says:

          Danny, street gangs there may have been in the 1920s, but the Police were allowed to deal with them without interference from the bleeding heart brigade who seem to dictate operational policy these days. You should read the book about Sheffield’s street gangs and how they were broken up by Sir Percy Sillitoe’s very hard policing methods. The Sheffield’s gangsters were hard men, but Sillitoe’s coppers were even harder. It was a case of fighting fire with fire – and it worked!

          These days police management would be inviting “community leaders” and some of the gang leaders for a discussion over tea and biscuits.

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          • Mick McDonald says:

            Danny Howard, I am from Small Heath where “Peaky Blinders” is set. I was brought up here (born mid 50s) and still live nearby. I had never heard of this gang until the recent TV series was broadcast – it’s not like they were part of local mythology.
            If they were around 100 years ago, they must have gone away in the intervening period, because I don’t recall hearing anything about them until recently. I don’t remember any such gangs growing up in the 50s -70s.
            Antiquity doesn’t equal continuity.

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        • ROBERT BROWN says:

          Sure they were about, one gang even delighted in ‘cutting’ people, with razors. Thing is, then you could carry a knife, swordstick, or revolver and hit back…….now?……

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  8. George R says:

    “Useless bosses. Silly job titles. Endless futile meetings. Who says the BBC’s beyond satire?
    “JOHN HUMPHRYS discusses the corporation’s past and present.
    “Humphrys argues that the BBC is over-managed, and always has been.
    “Also says it is no different from any company when it comes to bosses.
    “Claims that W1A, the new BBC self-parody, is a good sign for its image.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583953/Useless-bosses-Silly-job-titles-Endless-futile-meetings-Who-says-BBCs-satire-JOHN-HUMPHRYS-discusses-corporations-past-present.html#ixzz2wOkEqr4b

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    • Joshaw says:

      “Silly job titles”

      Like “comedian”?

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    • Dave s says:

      Sounds like a pre emptive strike by the apologists. Won’t work. The BBC is on the ropes.
      Finish it off . The kind thing to do now.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      I guess that one of the duties of a “Diversity Officer” at the BBC, would be to force everyone to celebrate the fact that the BBC would not employ identical twins, because of the diversity policy.

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  9. Thoughtful says:

    Compare & contrast what happens when a fascist or two makes a bullying allegation of ‘Waycism’ against the bBC, and how senior staff all spring into action, whereas when they are accused of left wing bias they don’t even bother to respond.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2582833/Jeremy-Clarkson-accused-racism-Top-Gear-series-finale-Thailand.html

    From what I can gather around three bigots all of them white have made a complaint based around an obscure use of a word which the vast majority of people didn’t even know meant what they claim it means.

    For the vast majority this is the fascist left, up to their usual tricks sitting there with a dictionary of waycist words so obscure or obsolete no one will have been aware of the possible meaning, ready to pounce on their target regardless of the real context of the word used.

    Clarkson is an obvious target for them, but note that it isn’t the people allegedly insulted who are complaining, – it’s the fascists again.

    Thee or four complaints and a response, albeit negative from an executive director? Anyone here ever complained and had a response from someone at that level?

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    • Pounce says:

      You’d think, if it is as racist as the liberals make out, the so PC bBC would have edited it out.

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      • Buggy says:

        Hands up anybody beyond the United Order Of Professional And Permanent Grievance Mongers (Obscure Slurs Chapter) who’d ever heard of ‘slope’ as a derogatory term ? It’s not as if the dreaded ‘chink’ or ‘nip in the air’ was invoked. Googling ‘slope’ it appears to be an American slur not in use over here so clearly these homegrown idiots sit watching the tellybox with their much-thumbed copies of ‘The Big Book Of Naughty Words International’ close at hand, lest there be anything, no matter how obscure, they can jump on so as to get a rapid stiffy from their own righteousness. Remember the saga of ‘nitty gritty’ a few years back ? Here are the same pricks trying the same game of speech control through guilt once more.

        One would hope that instead of the usual hand-wringing defence of ‘No offence was intended but we apologise to those who were upset’ which franks these morons’ imagined grievances as legitimate, that perhaps for once they might be told to ‘procreate abroad’ and to seriously grow up before it’s too late, the sad little gits.

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        • pah says:

          ‘Slope’ is not exactly like ‘nigger’ but IIRC it was used in the Korean/Vietnam War eras as a derogatory term by US soldiers. It is definitely verboten.

          There is an outside chance that Clarkson was deliberately using the word to see if anyone was listening but I seriously doubt someone of Richard Hammonds literary and historical knowledge would get the ‘joke’.

          I think the only racists here are those who complained.

          NB I watched and enjoyed (ish – it wasn’t their best) this ‘special’ and I didn’t notice the connotation and at the time I thought the man on the bridge was James May. Again IIRC the man is not shown in close up so how would you know he was a native?

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          • Richard Pinder says:

            It’s a good job they didn’t travel on the road from Timbuktu to Niamey, they could have come a cropper if Clarkson said “doesn’t that say Niger” at the border crossing.

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        • Joshaw says:

          I don’t think people in that part of the world are sensitive at all.

          “Darkie” toothpaste was freely available until relatively recently and, last time I was there, the Sriracha Tiger Zoo featured a black boy dressed up like something out of an old Tarzan film.

          Not at the expense of locals, admittedly, but they certainly don’t share BBC priorities.

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    • Geoff says:

      No racism here, its standard bBC practice if not mandatory to ensure that nearly every shot/scene in every bBC program/news clip must contain a person of Asian origin.

      Clarkson’s comments were purely coincidental….

         34 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Is that not an April Fool story that’s sneaked out early? Are some people seriously suggesting we’re not allowed to use the word “slope” now? Who gave them permission to appropriate a word in common usage for their exclusive use?

      I suggest we find a derogatory use for the phrase “BBC” and stop everyone else from using it.

         27 likes

      • Joshaw says:

        “Are some people seriously suggesting we’re not allowed to use the word “slope” now?”

        Terrible. It’s a slippery slope.

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        Isn’t BBC used by racists as an acronym for “Bloody Black Cunts”

           17 likes

    • Phil Ford says:

      “…For the vast majority this is the fascist left, up to their usual tricks…”

      Liberal fascism, plain and simple. It’s everywhere now, permeating every possible aspect of our lives, never more so than when employed by the doctrinal commissars of the BBC.

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      • mo says:

        Liberal fascism, plain and simple. It’s everywhere now, permeating every possible aspect of our lives

        Well said Phill Ford

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  10. John Anderson says:

    the silly interviews in Easington this morning seemed to me to point to a couple of conclusions

    1 Some folk up there are still fighting the Miners’ Strike, which was a folly they deserved to lose.

    2 They say they hated mining – but they are still clinging to the past. But that’s OK, Joe Taxpayer can keep them going.

    Wallowing in self-pity ? Easington is next to Peterlee New Town, massive investment went in there to try to turn the employment situation round. Time they pulled themselves by on their own bootstraps, rather than forever relying on the public teat. Or time they moved on. Sorry, clean out of sympathy.

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    • #88 says:

      Awful wasn’t it? Sour conflicted socialists who couldn’t work out whether the pits were a blessing or a curse.

      Compare that with the earlier story from Wallsend about the optimism from industry there, growing by 20% per year, struggling to find the skills. ‘The river bank was full of factories and workshops we were told’, or the later story from a booming Nissan factory.

      I have no time for socialists or for the Labour party that want to co-opt me and the rest of us into their army of victims, the regiment of the squeezed middle or their cost of living warriors.

      It’s time for those wasters in Easington (and the bloke from London on Five Live yesterday who told the audience that he’d been abandoned by the Government) to get a life, or at least take control of it.

      Enough

         46 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Well done Evan Davis.
        A day return up to Geordieland at public expense, and not even needing to leave the airport concourse…Costa and breakfast panini, presumably packed for him by Auntie Sarah last night for that fearsome trip northwards!
        No wonder then that Radio Newcastle and the ghost of Mike Neville managed to jalopy around Silly Iriot(Billy Elliot) territory in their radio cars( converted TV detector vans with the coat hangers removed, which locals genuinely thought were aeriels!).
        Has anybody up there got over the death of Margaret Thatcher yet?…course not, still on the sick and in mourning for the only MP with a spine to visit the land of the Maoning Minnies in the last 40 years.
        Didn`t even listen-unless Evan gets his Fauntleroy cords pressed and he shows up to the Durham Miners gala-with incredibly clean and ironed banners that only come out once a year(twice if a Tolpuddle trip can be blagged)…`til Evan rolls up on a pit pony and risks a bit of a stroll around Durham at the pit head(no, sexual connotations there -someone tell him!)…I`ll not give a hoot on whether his panini travelled well.
        Typical patronising BBC indulgence, leisure cruising on imagined chips and slights…and the idea of Davis thinking he`s Billy Elliot for a day is a joke.
        He`s already back at Boodles as we speak-like Bacon and Derbyshire the north is a day thrill as long as they can piss off back home for high tea.
        Geordie pits…indeed they are-and they STILL won`t forgive Winston Churchill for 1923…so poor old Mrs T has a long time before she`s canonised…the only part of the country where Byers, Milbands, Blairs and Mandelsons are regarded as “Labour sticking it to the toffs”…and “Junkers Jack” Cunningham is still regarded as something other that a pustule on Marx` arse!
        Hope Davis put his watch back fifty years when he flew to the Geordie Nation…still hoping that Benn will reopen a Blyth Valley mind!

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        • Big Dick says:

          Is Mike Neville still alive , last saw him on Nationwide , then heard he was on Tyne Tees TV , Look North East , ITV local news .

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      • johnnythefish says:

        Would have loved to see a BBC ‘alternative comedian’ trying to get a laugh in a working men’s club.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Tricky to decide today which news medium is the more dire today.
    SKY has Kay ‘you can’t say that’ Burley trampling on an MH370 relative to get to the…’story’.
    The BBC meanwhile offers this crucial contribution:
    The Today Programme
    Helen Steel speaks to Mike Thomson about her relationship with an undercover policeman, who knew “all her innermost thoughts”.
    Couldn’t have taken him too long to acquire them, frankly.

       29 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      I’ve seen no end of interviews with our boys (and girls) single, double, and triple amputees not one of whom has said,

      ‘… has ruined my life’.

      Nah – to hear that, you have to listen to a brain-dead leftie activist on full howl and with a sniff of compo in her nostrils.

      An activist (as usual) not quite active enough to hold a job down.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2583990/Fans-desert-McIntyres-chat-Comedian-loses-400-000-viewers-week-critics-say-interested-guests.html
    I wonder if this was another Danny Cohen special?
    ‘being [paid, presumably] £500,000 for the six-part series’
    Tried a few minutes of the first* and switched off when I saw what the inbred Beeboid celeb merry-go-round guestlist was.
    *Got to love iPlayer. Tried it, didn’t like it, dropped it. Didn’t cost me a penny.
    As it should be. Shame about the half mil down the pan though, eh, BBC ‘interests of the licence fee payer’ Trust?

       21 likes

    • Geoff says:

      Tin hat on, I quite enjoyed it bar the Strictly scouse non-entity.

      Clarkson got some good un pc jibes in, especially the Jeremy Vine one and it was good to hear David Jason give some background on Only Fools and Horses. The program was neither smutty or filled with gay innuendo as per Graham Norton.

         17 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        Clarkson was impressed by the “ethnically stereotypical pedestrian crossing men” bit.

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    • uncle bup says:

      It must be a good programme because a Droid spokesman has come out and said how ‘absolutely delighted’ the BBC are with it.

      If you want to hear Michael McIntyre interviewing Sue Perkins with the canned laughter cranked up to 11 this is the programme for you.

      Not for me though.

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  13. Oldbob says:

    Full on anti -Tory , anti -Osbourne fest by the news drones this morning. The usual suspects, Oakshit and Toynbee being given a free reign to spout their shite about bankers bonuses, mansion taxes etc. The drones now have a helicopter following Osourne’s car down Whitehall like this is some sort of state funeral………FFS how much more of this garbage do we have to put up with before anyone does anything about this arrogant, out of control, left wing cesspit that is the BBC ?

       57 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Not just the BBC, but I do wonder how any news medium whose staff po-faced intone dire warnings about the consequences of runaway GHG emissions can in the next breath credibly add commentary to helicopter footage of a car journey through town.
      It’s almost like they’ll parrot anything and then promptly drop any ethical standard attempted simply to fill the next void in the 24/7 news schedule.

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  14. George R says:

    BBC-NUJ, reporting South Africa, ANC, Zuma, post-Mandela.

    BBC-NUJ has largely lauded ANC and Zuma over the past 20 years, despite the massive corruption and worse (e.g. shooting of striking miners, 2012).

    Will BBC-NUJ political attitudes now change?-
    “South Africa’s Zuma slammed for $23 mln home makeover”

    http://www.trust.org/item/20140319105532-hb7pl/?

    R.W.Johnson had this critique in December, 2013:-

    R.W. Johnson: “In South Africa, the reality is debt and corruption.
    “As we bid farewell to Nelson Mandela, his successors in the ANC have failed to govern a complex country.”

    http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/rw-johnson-in-south-africa-the-reality-is-debt-and-corruption-8994993.html

    Also, by R.W. Johnson:-

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    • George R says:

      I note that in its edited version of its report on Zuma, BBC-NUJ censors out this part of Reuters report (above):-

      “It” [the amount spent on Zuma’s house] “is also more than 1,000 times that spent on F.W. de Klerk, the white president who stepped down in 1994 after the first all-race elections that signalled the end of apartheid.”

      -The above does not appear in BBC-NUJ report below.
      I wonder why not?:

      “Zuma’s South African Nkandla home upgrade ‘unethical'”

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26645400

         20 likes

      • therealguyfaux says:

        You’d think they’d want to investigate to see whether it was “green” enough to suit their sensibilities. Wouldn’t want Jay-Zee to set a bad example for all the other Third World tinpot tyrants with an “unsustainable” large-carbon-footprint house, would we now?

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  15. Thoughtful says:

    Had to laugh at this past cover from Private Eye:

    http://transitionculture.org/wp-content/uploads/BlairCameron.jpg

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  16. George R says:

    Not a INBBC ‘Panorama’ investigation:-

    “Forced out by fanatics: Head teachers reveal how they’ve been bullied, smeared and driven from their jobs for resisting Islamic extremists.
    “The teachers speak of the harassment and hate directed against them.
    “One, a moderate Muslim, was ousted after a ‘sinister hate campaign.’
    “A recent letter claims there is a plot to spread extremist agenda.”
    By SUE REID and LUCY OSBORNE

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583905/Forced-fanatics-Head-teachers-reveal-theyve-bullied-smeared-driven-jobs-resisting-Islamic-extremists.html#ixzz2wPeSeG1P

       24 likes

    • George R says:

      Robert Spencer, ‘Jihadwatch’ comments:-

      “This is the Britain that British authorities have forced upon the British people. This is the Britain that British authorities have chosen. This is the Britain that British authorities have wanted. This is the Britain that British authorities have brought about by means of their immigration policies, their supine attitude toward Islamic supremacism, and their eagerness to appease Leftists and Islamic supremacists even to the point of barring foes of jihad such as Pamela Geller and me from entering the country. This is the Britain that Tony Blair, Jack Straw, Jacqui Smith, Gordon Brown, David Cameron, Theresa May and a host of others have brought about. And now they have to live in it.”

      -from:
      “UK: Non-Muslim teachers bullied, smeared, driven from their schools for resisting Islamic supremacists”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/uk-non-muslim-teachers-bullied-smeared-driven-from-their-schools-for-resisting-islamic-supremacists

         23 likes

  17. AsISeeIt says:

    A couple of days ago BBC News aired an interview with a Ukrainian government spokesman (that’s the new EU/US-backed interim Kiev regime)

    I was struck by the language this chap used to rally support – quite obviously he had in mind that he was on the BBC – and I’m guessing he had listened to quite a lot of our BBC.

    Rather than bore us again with Putin’s supposed breaches of ‘intrenational law’ he bleated over and over “Russia can’t do this – it is 2014! It is 2014 – you can’t do this these days”

    Do you see? The ultimate refrain of the ‘progressive’ ‘liberal’.

    What I say is true, is true because…. well, this is just how it is these days.

    This was exactly the form of argument that accompanied the passing into law of our own recent Pantomime Marriage Act.

       25 likes

  18. George R says:

    INBBC ‘Newsnight’: Female Genital Mutilation? Blame the Catholic Church, not Islam.

    In Ms Lloyd-Roberts’ long, rambling piece on FGM in the lesser African state of Bukino Faso (why not concentrate on FGM in Britain?), she ends up blaming the Catholic Church, not Islam!
    “The unopened ‘Pleasure Hospital’ of Bobo”
    By Sue Lloyd-Roberts
    INBBC ‘Newsnight’.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26577358

    Apparently, the majority of that country’s population are Muslims (60%); and Ms Lloyd-Roberts must know the link between FGM and Islam:-

    ‘Jihadwatch’:-

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/search_gcse?q=fgm%20and%20islam

       23 likes

  19. DYKEVISIONS says:

    Al beeb’s rolling news:-

    ‘Reaction starting to flood in from groups affected by the announcements. The Fire Brigades’ Union says the cut to inheritance tax for emergency service workers killed on duty is a gimmick. “Inheritance tax only applies to those leaving more than £325,000, so it is hard to assess how many would actually benefit,” said Matt Wrack, general secretary. “Meanwhile, the families of all firefighters, including those killed at work, will be worse off as a result of government attacks on our pensions.”
    Any other groups we can hear from? Hello , Helloo anyone there?

       20 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Never known a fireman who didn’t hold down at least one other job (usually cash in hand).

         15 likes

      • John Anderson says:

        Years ago I had a large extension built by local firemen. They di a good job – but wanted paying in cash, of course.

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  20. George R says:

    “BRITISH TV NEEDS ETHNIC QUOTAS ABOUT AS BADLY AS IT NEEDS THE COMEDIC TALENTS OF LENNY HENRY”

    By James Delingpole.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/19/British-TV-Needs-Ethnic-Quota-Systems-About-As-Badly-As-It-Needs-The-Comedic-Talents-Of-Lenny-Henry

       32 likes

  21. Scronker says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583111/It-aint-half-daft-BBC-ban-racist-Dads-Army-creator-JIMMY-PERRY-BBCs-refusal-repeats-greatest-hits.html
    I’ve ordered the full dvd box set will they’re still available.
    BBC – soft, leftie, humourless authoritarian bastards.

       26 likes

    • Rob says:

      Not really my cup of tea. I ordered Love Thy Neighbour instead

         12 likes

      • chrisH says:

        Mind Your Language was my favourite…really funny in a Lenny Henry way…but DID get the EU project “just about right , on balance”

           8 likes

      • Mark says:

        Trinidadian Bill (Rudolph Walker) nearly always came out on top against white Eddie Booth (Jack Smethurst) IIRC.

        What’s more, Bill was an aspirational Tory and Eddie a stuck-in-the-mud racist Labourite.

           18 likes

        • chrisH says:

          .
          Rudolph Walker you say?
          He called me a honky…and on , one occasion…a ghost! Or he called Eddie next door this…and my mate is called eddie and it therefore still haunts me.(like a ghost you might say)
          I have post-traumatic race battered syndrome…can I go straight to go and claim my £200…actually, I`m going for £200, 000 seeing as their maths is pretty crap these days.
          I will of course be suing Errol Brown of Hot Chocolate-he also called me a honky in “Brother Louie”….anti-white racism I find is quite contagious, and I`m feeling a bit peeky even now as I think on it all!
          BTW-I don`t hear Rudolph, that Norman bloke or indeed Don Warrington moaning about the lack of black actors on telly-those few are never off the bloody screens.
          But maybe they`re talented…as opposed to wee Lenny( I was a Black and White Minstrel support act once, you know) Henry.
          And he never even learned ONE funny thing from all that time there either.
          Useless….Lennys just a bolster mattress for Premier Inn, testing bedsprings and snooze alarms…and if Lenny uses these one in his next outing at BAFTA, then I`ll forgive him….

             16 likes

    • Geoff says:

      The bBC have stacks of decent stuff in their archives, which could be argued belongs to us.

      Instead of killing off BBC3 and replacing it with BBC1+1 give us a channel of the old stuff, after all its far better than the PC and Strictlycomevoicinghomesundertheatticmasterchef drivel that fills all the other channels.

      Bollocks to any PC sensitivities that exist today that didn’t exist when the programs were made, Guy Gibson’s dog was called Nigger – unfortunately (for some) fact and no amount of PC gerrymandering can change history.

         36 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Now if Melvyn Hayes could only be persuaded to show a wee bit more ankle during the pitch, a revamped version of ‘La Cage au Camp Bastion’ would probably be commissioned by yon BBC Queen of Drama before you could say ‘what conflict of interest?’.
      It’s a quota thing, honest.

         10 likes

    • chrisH says:

      George Entwhistles first acting role was in this splendid show…as Mr La-di-dah Gunner Graham I believe!
      Wonder what happened to him?
      Not another tired Jimmy Savile tribute act is he?

         12 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      What was Humphrys saying about the BBC belonging to the viewers and licence fee payers? Well not if they paid for it years ago and it no longer fits the left liberal BBC view, it would appear. What right do they have to censor this material on my or anyone’s behalf unless it’s breaking the law?

      If he was truly genuine in his sentiments, he’d resign – else he’s just a patsy for the latest re-run of a clapped out old BBC ploy (‘Look how we have the freedom to criticise from within!’ or ‘We used to be biased, but we’re not any more!’).

         11 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      The sight of a British army Sergeant Major taking his boot to the arse of a punkah wallah brings out the droids in full shriek.

      That it is ten thousand times the quality of W1A is neither here nor there.

         14 likes

  22. Doublethinker says:

    In the Daily Mail today there is an article on the License Fee and it contains a quote from the BBC Head of corporate and public affairs , Andrew Scadding. Mr Scadding says that if non payment of the LF became a civil offence ‘ the BBC would have to install technology in TV sets allowing it ( the BBC ) to switch off access to those who do not pay’.
    I am unclear if he meant switch off access to the BBC only or to all stations! But surely, if the latter, it would be a tiny technological step to allow the BBC to switch off access to its own output if people didn’t pay the LF. In other words the BBC would become a subscription service. I am sure that all contributors to this site would welcome such a move and commend Mr Scadding for his views.

       28 likes

    • stewart says:

      How exactly would the Ministry of Truth install this technology . Would they send officer/technicians around to your house or just to the retailers ?
      And could not TVs be made that would not receive State telecasts? I sense a niche in the market.

         19 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      This is a standard BBC line on why subscription ‘wouldn’t work’. Purnell was using the same argument last week claiming it would cost ‘£500 million’ to put the technology in place.

      Er, have you considered a strategic business partnership with someone who DOES have the technology, Mr £300k A Year?

      No, thought not.

         12 likes

      • thoughtful says:

        Sky Freeview & Freesat already offer encryption service. Cable is slightly different in that it denies access, but all the technology is already in place, it need cost the bBC nothing, or very little.

           7 likes

  23. Guest Who says:

    Just checked my FaceBook feed and the series of logic and irony failing drivel from BBC cubs ‘reporting’ on a vile media griefmongering scrum created by and comprising themselves is utterly gobsmacking.
    BBC News
    There’s been chaotic scenes in Malaysia, after relatives of passengers on flight #MH370 were forcibly removed from a news conference in Kuala Lumpur.

    The BBC’s Jonah Fisher tried to speak to some of them – and was met by a line of police.
    BBC World News
    #MH370 search. There were emotional scenes today as some relatives of the Chinese passengers were dragged away crying and screaming. The BBC World News team were there. Here is some of what they saw.
    The Malaysian big-wigs have handled the PR poorly to be sure, but this numpty’s smug ‘there you have it’ Pulitzer application having had his demand that the BBC be answered given the Patten treatment by a Corporal from KL was just one of many moronic moments in this unedifying spectacle.
    Quick question of A. Newsroom. How many different BBC teams were there in this scrum adding to the overall cluster-FUBAR before rushing to upload to FaceBook?

       13 likes

    • Phil Ford says:

      “…Pulitzer application…”

      Lol. They’re all it, though, all these pompous, heroically self-important senior BBC ‘reporters’ (and I use the term cautiously), serial award chasers, all, each of them ready to drop everything (including their principles) and leg it across the globe to the latest crisis/famine/flood/conflict/ etc at the merest whiff of a Royal Television Society gong for services to something they still quaintly refer to as ‘journalism’.

         16 likes

  24. stuart says:

    did you listen to richard bacons radio 5 live interview with noel edmunds yesterday,a must listen,one thing noel said was quite interesting,gobby bacon asked noel have you got a tv licence since you are so against it.noel said no,i dont need a tv license because i watch all bbc programmes on catch up on iplayer,what was quiet interesting was noel edmunds idea to scrap the tv license and buy off the bbc himself,bacon did not like that and later on at 3.30pm with the tv review bacon and that bbc bumlicker creepy boyd hilton laid into noel edmunds with all kinds of insults,i was quite impressed with that inteview noel edmunds on gobby bacons show,go listen and judge for yourself

       35 likes

    • chrisH says:

      What a crock-just heard these bits!
      Still-Bacon`s dropped the BBC in it according to Noel with his saying that the BBC don`t get paid(or declare) for product placement.
      Noel hopes they`ll investigate-and not in a Savile way.
      Loved Steve Barnett and Boyd Hilton….very much the new breed of zoo academic shout outs that the BBC like to bring in.
      Hope Noel has noted what they said about him…reckon our Poly Dolly Steve ought to be worried, what with Mr Blobby being quite wealthy an `all…
      Buy shares in Noel!…

         18 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      ‘….bacon did not like that and later on at 3.30pm with the tv review bacon and that bbc bumlicker creepy boyd hilton laid into noel edmunds with all kinds of insults.’

      How brave of them. I think it’s called the ‘Bellamy is now bonkers’ technique.

         13 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Whatever the technique is called, it’s the last vestige of the true weasel.
        How many other times have Beeboids, and Bacon in particular, been bested live, but then waited until their nemesis has left the building before crawling out from under their rocks to abuse the edit and transmission facilities force funded by hapless licence fee payers, in revenge? Cowardly sods.

           13 likes

  25. barry says:

    Jo Coburn told the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, ” We won’t be better off in 1015″. Sounds familiar and the BBC opened their Budget programme with a Labour party political broadcast.

       23 likes

    • JohnM says:

      I do not understand you comment.

      Do you mean the hour 10:15AM? Or PM?

      Or is it the year 2015?

      Or what?

         0 likes

      • johnnythefish says:

        2015. An obvious typo to those familiar with the BBC’s relentless publicity for Labour’s ‘Cost of Living Crisis’ propaganda (pursued ad nauseam by Sarah Montague on tonight’s ‘PM’ programme, too, in her interview with Danny Alexander).

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  26. George R says:

    In its reporting of the global Islamic jihad threat, INBBC is inclined to use distorted euphemisms, and relegate this threat, and to almost reduce it (wrongly), to Al Qaeda and ‘affiliated’ organisations.

    But even then, as an ostensible public service broadcaster, INBBC does a poor job on up-to-date information on Al Qaeda, apparently not incorporating material like this:-

    1.)
    “AL QAEDA MAGAZINE URGES FOLLOWERS TO BOMB SAVOY HOTEL”

    By Nick Hallett.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/03/19/Al-Qaeda-Magazine-Urges-Followers-to-Bomb-Savoy

    2.)
    “Al-Qa’ida, the second act: Is Saudi Arabia regretting its support for terrorism?
    “In the second part of his series, Patrick Cockburn examines the role of Saudi Arabia as the jihadists’ greatest ally – and asks whether the kingdom will be forced to change tack in the face of American impatience and anarchy in Syria.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/alqaida-the-second-act-is-saudi-arabia-regretting-its-support-for-terrorism-9198213.html

    3.)
    “The Sunni revolt in Syria has given al-Qa’ida more power in Iraq.
    “In the third part of his series, Patrick cockburn looks at the growing influence of Isis, al-Qa’ida’s force in Iraq, which dominates Sunni areas and is wreaking havoc among the Shia majority.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/the-sunni-revolt-in-syria-has-given-alqaida-more-power-in-iraq-9200376.html

       7 likes

  27. George R says:

    Will Beeboids support Associated Press in USA, as they support Islamic Al Jazeera in Egypt?:-

    “Tin Pot Power-Grab: AP Pushes Back Against Obama Press Control, Demands ‘Independent Coverage,’ White House putsch – rewrites FOIA to suppress release of politically sensitive documents.”

    – See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2014/03/tin-pot-power-grab-ap-pushes-back-obama-press-control-demands-independent-coverage-white-house-unfettered-whitehouse-re-writes-foia-suppress-release-politically-sensitive-docu.html/#sthash.ldRjsLpj.dpuf

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  28. Betty Swollocks says:

    Did you notice their Budget coverage…again lots of red ties and blouses from the Beeboids….Labour masters at work again ??

       26 likes

    • Pounce says:

      Well if I received my news only from the bBC, I’d be of the opinion that this budget is a shambles and that if I voted Labour they would simply tax the bankers and everything woulf be OK. Got to love this comment by Miss Cooper of Labour which the bBC have given prominence:
      ” Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper tells the BBC: “I think the problem is that right across the country people are going to be worse off at the end of this Parliament than at the beginning as a result of the decisions that this government is taking.

      Gee Miss Copper, I wonder why that is, do you think the previous lot in power made a huge Balls up of the economy. Well your thieving husband is a fat cunt.

         38 likes

    • Raging Bull says:

      Yes I noticed that…a nice red background in the studio, both Nick Robinson and Preston had beautiful red ties and the female presenter had a lovely red top. I thought Danny Alexander did a good job of defending himself against their jibes and poor questionning. With Ed Balls of course they were all smiles and at one point I could swear I saw the Welsh presenter (whose name I temporarily forget) gazing admiringly into Balls’ eyes until he realised the camera had swung back to him and he quickly adjusted his posture to appear more ‘neutral’.

         14 likes

  29. chrisH says:

    Just listening now to Kevin Howlett( Howlett Media Productions) blustering all over Andrew Bridgen MP…probably the most hated MP at the BBC for some time yet.
    The “interview” is meant to be about the MP trying to decriminalise non-payment of the License fee…but I can hardly hear him get a full sentence out without Kevin fluttering, spluttering and seeing all manner of agendas.
    Clearly Howletts “income stream” is under some kind of pressure-and don`t we all know it, by the tenor of this mere MP sticking his stick into the drones of the BBC hive and all that easy honey.
    And now Howlet is interviewing Lenny Henry about the lack of BMEs(go on, guess!) in the sitcoms…oh, how Kevin allows Henrys inner Lear gets full expression, Kevin fairly massaging Lennys honeyed words.
    Compare and contrast-a master class for a Craig to do some figures on.
    Basically, decriminalise drugs, murder ,whites getting slaughtered or persecuted by Allahs Little helpers-my God, the prisons are full, solves nothing…isn`t that the BBCs reflex posture.
    Except for this one regressive punitive poll tax on single mums and befuddled OAPs..the TV Licence fee.
    To the Tower for their likes….who`s gonna pay for Saviles old shellsuits once the Beeb rehabilitate him?

       31 likes

    • JimS says:

      Indeed! The contrast is remarkable!

      Maybe the reason there are ‘no’ Black actors on the BBC is because all the ethic slots, (slots not slits!), have been taken up by Asian women newsreaders? Apparently that particular demographic has all the expertise on football too, at least on the newsdesks. They aren’t so keen on getting out onto the cold touchline though.

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      • chrisH says:

        Wonder if headscarves will yet be produced in football colours?
        The Doncaster Belles surely will have to wear them should they dare to play anywhere where the Religion of Peace holds sway.
        Has Saddam still got any sons around to come over and train them?…a mere thought….

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘“income stream” is under some kind of pressure
      The value of ‘debate’ or even commentary on the BBC, about the BBC and/or by a BBC-largesse beneficiary has to be at best deemed questionable or, in many case, a blatant stitch-up by the BBC to give the appearance of objectivity when clearly the circumstances ensure it is anything but.
      Don’t know this chap, but another clearly from the same mould is Steve Hewlett, claimed independent expert media commentator but also just a wee bit interest conflicted when it comes to the broadcast monopoly responsible for many a Max Bialystockie chekkie.
      At the ‘Future of the BBC’ inquiry he gave a masterclass in dissembling on 28Gate, claiming he knew little of the matter but oddly then managing chapter and verse on how it was nothing to see here and in fact simply normal, good newsroom practice for Hugs to try and cover up a room full of barely relevant Beeboids with AGW activists convening to set the future news coverage of matters climate the way the public needed to hear it.

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      • chrisH says:

        Sorry pal, it WAS Steve Howlett-was Kevin a footballer or something?…
        Thanks for the bloke above who told me of Bacons “show” yesterday…awaiting Noel Edmonds, but how the hell Bacon gets a true 21st Century hero like Henry Marsh on his show is a mystery!
        Still-great to hear the Great Man( Marsh I mean, not dipshit Dick(tell me how it feels to be a brain surgeon then!)Bacon!
        Tell your kids that drugs are baad…listen to Dick, and reflect…

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    • Dave s says:

      Hilarious listening to a liberal beeboid trying to defend the extortion under legal duress known as the TV licence. They have lost the argument and know it. It will be decriminalised and a very good thing too. The BBC is one of the very last of the failing state industries. We privatized nearly everything else .Just what is so special about an entertainment company?
      Beats me.

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  30. EmersonV says:

    Just been listening to the Labour Party political broadcast. Formerly know as Radio 5 live.

    Unbelievable bias they don’t even bother trying to hide it now.

       34 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Just heard Richard Bacon blab that the BBC doesn`t declare any product placement in its “income stream”…and Noel Edmonds states that , if so, this is deeply worrying and in breach of the Charter-and needs investigating if true! So-Richard Bacon must stay…and the smarmball from Westminster Uni( Hacked Off board member!) is allowed to trash Noel to finish the programme.
      A “balanced and typically impartial” defence of the BBC and its seedy privileges…but a few more years of Bacon will do for them…and let`s hope Noel remembers Bacons bitching zoo team and Steve Barnett too( Lecturer in Communication Studies-Westminsta Uni).
      Plenty lecherers at the BBC, so Barnett should feel right at home….

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  31. EmersonV says:

    When they work out the cost of immigration do they include the cost for this.
    Female genital mutilation: London hospitals treat 4,000 patients
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26639542

       26 likes

    • Pounce says:

      Beware the liberal wanker who will come on board and call you a racist for broaching the very subject. Do you not know that Muslims can only be victims, that even with blood on their hands they can only be victims and that ‘Islamophobia’ is rife on this board.

      The irony here is the very people who defend the gay death cult will be the first to see their throats slit if Muslims take power in the UK.

         37 likes

    • johnnythefish says:

      Surely the cost is easily offset by the benefit of ‘cultural enrichment’?

         15 likes

      • EmersonV says:

        Of course yes, I mean we would still be living in caves if it wasn’t for mass immigration.

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  32. Guest Who says:

    And in other news, an eclectic set:
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/correction-costs.html
    ‘BBC internal legal effort is not costed in the response’
    It seldom, if ever is.
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/creative-carpets.html
    ‘A chief adviser to Danny Cohen (how many advisers does he have ?)’
    Clearly not enough, given how well the statements he has made of late have lead ballooned.
    And finally…
    http://tradingaswdr.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/where.html
    ‘BBC’s Chief Economics Correspondent, now appointed Health Editor’
    Presumably on the basis that what he didn’t know before fully qualifies him for not knowing anything in his new job?
    At least the role was advertised before finding someone internally with no relevant qualifications.

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  33. Jeff says:

    All of those politically correct fanatics, like Lenny Henry, who are obsessed with ethnic quotas are going to be exceedingly happy this evening. There will be no shortage of black faces on the Beeb tonight.
    Crimewatch is back…

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  34. thoughtful says:

    You just gotta love the stories the bBC tells about Africa. All over the continent the story is the same and yet despite all their claims about ‘diversity’ ‘vibrancy’ and ‘multi culturalism’ they just can’t get it into their thick intolerant liberal minds that some cultures are very different to our own, and that while we might not like the fact, the people living in their own cultures live their lives they way they wish to.

    Take tribal leaders – or the leaders of countries. It is their culture that the chief has everything and the people – very little. So it has been and so it continues to be across the whole continent. From Mugabe, to Kabila, to Zuma.

    So when Zuma goes & spends more than he should, they simply can’t understand that it’s the way Africa is, and they desperately try to shoehorn it into a European vision, because they cannot view life outside of it.

    Odd because they castigate and bully everyone else who dares criticise multiculturalism, whilst having no concept of what it means themselves.

       33 likes

    • David Brims says:

      Do you think the BBC will be reporting this ? Africans burning witches. Warning graphic content.

         3 likes

      • David Brims says:

        Note the lack of empathy shown towards the victims, they’re still being beaten and hit while on fire.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Yes they’ll report that so long as the people doing it are Christians, if they are Muslim then there’s no chance what so ever!

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  35. George R says:

    ‘W1A’ review:-

    Biased-BBC commenter says –

    ‘it should run until the BBC is closed down’.

       12 likes

  36. George R says:

    Alan Yentob-Salman Rushdie arm wrestling moment was brilliant.

       5 likes

  37. Guest Who says:

    On matters comedic, just watched on iPlayer a Mock the Week round-up repeat episode under the category ‘Britain’.
    Have to say, it was very funny, even given the lack of topicality.
    Bar one small thing, which I do wonder whether it was intentional.
    Because in the whole episode, there were seen a few lady panellists yes, but best I recall, not one was shown actually saying anything, much less of humour.
    Now waiting for Danny Cohen to mandate that the audience must laugh on a 50% gender-split basis too, or else, even if it’s not funny.

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  38. Jeff Waters says:

    Complaints system for the NHS in England is “hopelessly complicated” and needs an overhaul, patients’ watchdog says – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-26647668

    I can think of another organisation whose complaints system needs an urgent overhaul…

    Jeff

       21 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Hopelessly complicated complaints systems are created not to answer complaints but to make them go away, be it NHS or the BBC.
      And they have been created that way at the top.
      No tinkering will address this fundamental fact until full accountability for deliberate obfuscation by policy is laid at the door of those responsible.

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  39. Jeff Waters says:

    It’s the BBC’s rightwing bias that is the threat to democracy and journalism – by Owen Jones

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/mar/17/bbc-leftwing-bias-non-existent-myth

    Utter bs…

       27 likes

    • Dave s says:

      Poor lad. Needs a permanent job at the BBC by the sound of it. 400k a year?
      One thing for sure. He fools nobody. I have done all sorts of manual jobs in my life and all sorts of things. One look at him and you know the type. All mouth and no skills. No foreman I worked with would have let him near a job.
      The modern liberal to the T .
      At least on the Guardian nobody really reads him. it is the dullest paper in Christendom. Let us campaign to keep him there.

         17 likes

  40. pounce says:

    I see the so called brilliant and leader of the Worlds Press has cone out with an article which even the Daily Mail wouldn’t touch:
    Benefits Street residents react to Budget
    Got to love the fat slappers reply to the bBC cunts question are there hard working people on this street.
    “Even unemployed people are hard working”
    and this brought a smile on my face:
    “My priority is food”
    Of course it is you fat trout. I wonder how much of that £13,000 she stole while working for Birmingham council she spent on fags, pies and do-nuts.

    The bBC, the epitome of quality journalistic reporting from the gay bastards at the bBC

       32 likes

    • Buggy says:

      “My priority is food”

      LOL. When Abbott is pushed up to the Lords’ (you know it’ll happen) as Lady Diane Of The Hackney Pie Shops this could be just the motto to go below her coat of arms.

      (Or “Meus cibus est prior” for that classy latin touch). 🙂

         13 likes

    • Dali Kman says:

      [ahem]…re White Dee, isn’t it supposed to be, like, totally waaaysist to refer to somebody by the colour of their skin ? Or is it a simply a reference to her purity, chastity, virtuousness, etc…..

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  41. Reed says:

    Is the BBC facing financial apocalypse?

    As an ex-trainee cost accountant, I calculated the cost of such meetings. Presuming 25 people, at an average of £15 per hour, with overhead, establishment costs and depreciation, it worked out at about £3,000 for a two-hour meeting (some were much longer). That’s a small street-worth of annual licence fees gone up in waffle. Being a curious sort of character, I once asked what the meetings were for. Staffing, internal communications, I learned: that sort of thing. One was about new office seats, which I later discovered were £295 each, with special orthopaedic support.

    blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100264312/is-the-bbc-facing-financial-apocalypse/

       19 likes

  42. George R says:

    Another consequence of political class (inc BBC-NUJ’s) advocacy of mass immigration into U.K:-

    “£1,000 bill to put contract in Urdu:
    Council under fire after chiefs spent amount translating just one tenancy agreement”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584897/1-000-bill-contract-Urdu-Council-fire-chiefs-spent-translating-just-one-tenancy-agreement.html#ixzz2wUWCmGhC

       17 likes

    • IsItMe? says:

      This sort of thing makes me seethe. First, why are immigrants who do not speak fluent English not only being allowed into the country in the first place, but also being given social housing?
      And second, granted that they are here and have been granted social housing (because it’s not like there’s a shortage of such housing, is it?), why is it not their own responsibility to get the tenancy agreement translated if they are unable to comprehend it?

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    I wonder what others here think about the BBC’s coverage of the Malaysian Airliner story?

    Considering the BBC’s huge resources and their boastfulness and pretentions as a broadcaster of world standing – I would suggest they’ve made quite a Kuala Lumpur of the story so far.

    Back on 10th March Beeb-eyed Jonathon Head interviewed friend of the pilot Peter Chong and learned that Zaharie was a ‘political and social activist’. To paraphrase slightly, our Jonathon’s reaction was : ‘oh really, how lovely for him’. It was as if he had been told something really really dull over a Gin Sling on the veranda. I wonder how it is that the BBC seems to neuter their newshounds?

    Several days later and as the Malaysians extrude information at the rate of a constipated camel things do start to look less and less like technical failure so quite naturally our Sunday papers – as opposed to the BBC – speculate (you have to so as to accumulate)

    But BBC Newspaper reviewers meet, chew the fat and roundly poo poo the idea that the pilots might be to blame. Gosh, they reassure me ‘Zaharie’s favouraite politician is more “liberal” than the present Malaysian government”

    Perhaps this lame style of reporting is all about Post-Imperial Guilt and heaps of respect for Johnny Foreigner?

    Well the Beeb blew it this morning with an awful crass choice of words.

    At first Jennifer Pak – our girl out East – reports that the families of the missing passengers are “witholding comment” about the lastest US/Australian sightings – blimey, has everyone in the world now got a degree in PR speak?

    Well, our Jennifer explains “It’s been a rollercoaster ride for the families”

    – not half as much as it was for the passengers.

    BBC : too much respect due – then drop the big clanger

       13 likes

    • Dave s says:

      For what it is worth I bumped into an airline pilot on Sunday who said the media is either stupid ( the BBC) or being fed what could be called misleading information.
      He did not wish to elaborate.
      One thing I am sure of it is that the BBC will be the last to work out the real fate of the plane. All that taxpayers money, all those people and for so little.

         16 likes

      • Roland Deschain says:

        It’s seemed pretty clear to me for days now that the authorities know a damn sight more than they’re letting on. Perhaps with good reason. Time will tell.

           7 likes

    • Framer says:

      It is a fact that the pilot was a supporter of the opposition leader Anwar who just been jailed for sodomy (again). He (Zaharie) is a most unlikely Moslem extremist, or sadly was.
      It has been plain to me all along that the failure of any passenger or crew member to use a mobile phone indicates they were all dead shortly after the plane turned.

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  44. Pounce says:

    Nobody (outside the plane) knows what happened to flight MH370 but that doesn’t stop the bBC trying:
    Malaysia plane search: Why terrorist attack is unlikely

    Isn’t there an bBC edict which states they have to have the full facts on the ground before they can pass comment on anything.

    The bBC, the propaganda arm for Islamic terrorism.

       22 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      ‘bBC edict which states they have to have the full facts’
      If there is I’d love to have the URL of where it is, as CECUTT would need to triple its staffing overnight based on the ‘sources saying’, ‘critics claiming’, BIJ-inspired allusion and gossip the BBC passes off as substantiated ‘news’ across its broadcast, print and social media estates.
      I’ll grant the rest of the MSM is in the sewer too, but the delay in any actual answers on MH370 to date (indeed possibly down to anything from rampant inefficiency to darker reasons by the relevant authorities – all the more reason to eschew the media scrum circus we saw the BBC wading around in yesterday to actually… investigate vs. succumb to griefmonger PR stunts for cheap ratings) has shown the clear, venal priorities of the world media laid bare and shared by the uniquely derivative BBC. Staff on the ground are pricey. No news means no space being filled and audiences drifting. Hence they have to make things happen, no matter what.
      The first victims of this will be the actual first victims, then their relatives, long lost or turned into pawns to serve the media mob maw.

         3 likes

  45. Deborah says:

    Bit of a car crash at 7.10 this morning on the Today programme. Two people were being interviewed about the annuities no longer being compulsory, including one who worked in the industry. Both agreed with the Chancellor that it was a good idea, this was not what Evan wanted to hear. Although I missed one round Ed at 7.50 Mr D tells me that Evan got so excited that he was putting words into Ed’s mouth, telling us that rates had got lower and lower before Mr Balls had chance to say it himself. But Evan did not ask if Mr G Brown and round Ed were responsible for the problems with UK finances.

       16 likes

    • Phil Ford says:

      Davis was in full brown-nose mode this morning whilst ‘interviewing’ Ed Balls(up) on the Today Programme (R4). The sycophancy on Davis’s part was nauseating; as has been suggested, Davis was practically putting words into Balls mouth throughout, whilst allowing his fragrant chum to repeat the same old, same old Labour bollocks without even the merest suggestion of a critique from the firmly on-side Davis.

      Your license fee at work, folks.

         20 likes

      • chrisH says:

        I heard Davis struggling hard to make any inroad into George Osbornes explanation for the Budget that he gave.
        I would have commended the piece after 8.10 in that Davis did not interrupt Osborne has he used to do…the answers were clear enough, and Davis could not get Osborne to pour buckets of cold water on his party members who want lower taxes and soon.
        So far, so good.
        Then comes the cherry bomb…true Labour Twitter shitter along the lines of fags, booze and bingo…and isn`t this all a bit populist and patronising Chancellor?
        This was Evans rabbit-bit dead, old hat alright!
        If only Osborne had asked Davis who gave him THAT line of attack?…was it Labour, HQ, did Balls leave it on a post-it note( the past-it notes, please God)…or did those clever editors and researchers there in the suite next door highlight it for him themselves?
        It`s about time the likes of George turned the tables on these grease gun merchants of New Labour-Davis would not have an answer anyway, but at least we could pin the moment to the Labour Donkey and skewer the BBC at one and the same time.
        Transparent oafs-except for Savile and Balen of course!
        Osborne DID mention Labour-but this was an open goal, and he could have done much better on this last nasty little plot of the BBCs.
        If only he`d heard Tony Bennett earlier ask some Beeboid klutz about how SHE got her opinion on his singing…and note Evan being decidedly unhappy about Bennett squashing her like the thick slug she clearly turns out to be.
        Suddenly I like Bennett!

           14 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        ‘Davis was practically putting words into Balls mouth’
        Words? There’s a mercy at least.
        Probably because, as has been well established by now, if Balls is left alone in this regard, the only thing put in there are his feet.
        He, as Shadow Chancellor, has again been found wanting, capable only of his own Tourettes-based sign language, along with his Dear Leader, capable of… well… nothing.
        This must indeed be very frustrating for a BBC whose whole corporate strategy is based on screwing the country so they can survive by getting this remedial class of GOATs back in.
        However, blatantly shouldering aside the elected opposition to try and act as the one the BBC requires, is getting very, very sinister (in Latin sense too).

           12 likes

    • onlyne says:

      Ah, the great interviewer and economist Evan Davis. Doesn’t interview people, just bludgeons them with his opinions. Wonder if a woman who was skinny, jug-eared, agreng, had a squint, etc (not his fault, but true) would be so well regarded. But he seems to have all the qualities the BBC think make him a national treasure. Now, what could they be?

         4 likes

  46. Pounce says:

    In the Central African Republic, a country which is 80% Christian. Islamic rebels took power by the bullet and the bomb and once in power went on the rampage killing…Christians . Naturally the Christians fought back and the followers of Islam are getting a well deserved beating. Here is how the bBC reports from CAR:
    The CAR priest who saved 1,000 Muslims from Christian militias
    “The Central African Republic is ravaged by what some human rights groups are calling ethnic cleansing. Mainly Muslim rebels seized power last year but after their leader was forced to stand down in January, Christian militias have been targeting Muslim civilians.”

    When Muslims are rampaging in:
    Pakistan
    Sudan
    Yemen
    Turkey
    Iraq
    Syria
    Egypt
    Tunisia
    Libya
    Malaysia
    Thailand
    India
    Bangladesh
    China
    and the rest

    Have you ever heard the bBC opine a sob story about the poor non Muslims getting robbed, raped and ethnically cleansed by the followers of the religion of peace.

    Yet look funny at a Muslim and its a full blown human rights incident

    The bBC, the propaganda mouthpiece for Islamic intolerance.

       33 likes

    • chrisH says:

      Yes-and wasn`t that Glenys Kinnock(well known expert on African Kleprocracy if little else) worrying herself so, with Mishal(daughter of Allah) Husein providing the pistachios and tissues.
      Appalling interview-neither had anything to say except for to bring in the UN, seeing as it`s” Muslims under attack”.
      Whereas when the indigenous “Christians” were getting slaughtered a la Boko Haram next door…well that`ll be cultural sensitivities and the occasional over-exuberance…and absolutely NO reason for the UN or the like to bother their heads. Islam would remove those very soon anyway.
      This followed Mishal talking fashions in Lahore-so eastern, so western chic…and isn`t fashion simply divine darlings?
      Can`t imagine Alexander McQueens family or Sir Mick would agree, but hey?
      Apparently Pakistan is suffering fuel shortages, presumably with a shortage of semtex and ricin in manufacturing…Mishal seemed concerned, once she`d left the Lahore Fashion Week(it`s always the new black, my dears!…maxi with suitable matching ski masks, for when the snow falls).
      Pile of crap-all that sun?…energy shortages?
      What about solar panels Mishal?…Roger Harrabin surely would confirm this?
      And aren`t there enough Pakistanis in Saudi now to provide a 24/7 bucket brigade between Jeddah and Lahore?…could even take a water bottle and filled pockets and turnups back and keep those embroidery industries going?
      But no-no solar ideas from Mishal…no call on wealthy Saudi to give them a light or a bucket of paraffin even…the umma don`t seem too inclined to help each other as long as the likes of Kinnock are happy to bankroll their ineptitude and incompetence….jizya form US to those who want us all dead or enslaved here.
      With Allahs help-well Mishals and Glenys, Jenny Tonges anyway…they`ll get their wishes.

         16 likes

      • flexdream says:

        Speaking with Kinnock, Husein did chip in with a single reference to atrocities from the other side but neither propagandist was interested in illuminating the cause of the latest trouble. The BBC has only found CAR on the map since the Muslims became the losers. Meanwhile as Muslims are slaughtered in Iraq, Libya and Syria the BBC has lost interest there.
        Kinnock seems to reckon the EU should get involved but is ‘distracted’ by the Ukraine. Who decided that the EU should have a foreign policy of any sort?

           16 likes

    • Germanicus says:

      Glenys Kinnock was on the Today programme waffling about this earlier. The announcer was comparing the christians bloodlust against the followers of the Religion of Peace© to the genocide in Rwanda.

         16 likes

    • pah says:

      If Muslims manage to ethnically cleanse China then we are all fucked.

      Somehow I don’t think they will be successful.

         10 likes

      • Arthur Penney says:

        If China keeps on with the ‘one child/ family’ it won’t take too long.

           3 likes

    • Doyle says:

      Watched Whewell’s on Newsnight the other day and it wasn’t until 5 minutes into the report that he mentioned that these were revenge attacks after muslim-on-Christian violence. The first 5 minutes should’ve been accompanied by sad violin music … only muslims in hundreds of miles … if they step outside the gates they’ll be killed … we take their women and their cattle … boo, hoo … you shouldn’t have started it, should you? You reap what you sow.

         22 likes

      • flexdream says:

        It wasn’t even mostly the local Muslims, but foreign jihadists who were behind the worst anti-Christian violence. But then, that’s been just the same story in Syria.

           11 likes

  47. Pounce says:

    Just when you thought you had heard everything, how according to the bBC, the use of guns in America by blacks is a positive thing:
    How the civil rights movement changed black gun culture
    The subject of guns is a volatile one in the black community: a disproportionate number of black Americans are killed by firearms each year….But Nicholas Johnson, a law professor at Fordham University in New York City, says black Americans have a long, positive history with guns. Firearms, he says, helped black Americans escape slavery, defend their homes and fight for their freedom. It was only after the civil rights movement that the public attitude towards guns started to change.”

    I wonder how the bBC will get round to explaining the black on black death toll in London, which since 2001 has seen more blacks murdered by Blacks, than British soldiers killed inside Afghanistan.

       19 likes

    • flexdream says:

      That last statistic is stunning. The BBC doesn’t really care about blacks, it is only interested in crying ‘institutional racism’ in order to undermine authority. It couldn’t care less what damage guns, knives, drugs, gangsta culture and family breakdown inflict on black or white kids.

         17 likes

      • Pounce says:

        Where I got that statement from:
        http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=2702

           6 likes

        • flexdream says:

          What a surprise that the BBC can’t get enough of the Stephen Lawrence murder, or any black man shot by the police, but is silent on this. Much the same way that Panorama did a special on how some undercover soldiers allegedly shot some people in Northern Ireland but the same programme makers wont touch Sinn Fein members, former IRA members and current ‘IRA’ terrorists.

             18 likes

  48. Milverton says:

    As Returning Officer for this morning’s Five Live phone-in pensions and budget special I hereby declare the results to be as follows:

    Negative calls: 9
    Neutral calls: 6, including two texts.
    Positive calls: 1, including personal declaration that the caller did not vote either Tory or LibDem.

    I therefore declare that Five Live consider the budget to be a disaster.

       21 likes

    • flexdream says:

      That’s nearly as high a percentage voted for the Crimea to become Russian, so I therefore declare your count to be illegal and don’t recognise it.

         15 likes

    • noggin says:

      “a disaster” for the very poorest, the most in genuine need in our society, right about that …
      Yep! another Tory budget, so no changes there, mind you No10 would probably even lie about that, they have a penchant for that, and getting away with it of late,
      so why change their habit.

         4 likes

      • Milverton says:

        You are very welcome to hold that opinion, noggin. Five Live are not. That is the difference.

        As flexdream points out, and the reason for my initial post, such a curious imbalance in most topics might elicit difficult questions.

        An election result like that, for example, would shame a banana republic.

           10 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘5 Live phone-in… Five Live consider the budget to be a disaster’.
      The problem being that BBC 5 Live’s Left-wing bias is now so obvious and pronounced that it has, effectively, self-selected its own Left-minded audience. I for one have been boycotting for some months now. Spotting the bias in BBC Salford output is like shooting fish in a barrel – too easy. Or, as 5 live might say : a cruel blood sport only enjoyed by racist hate-filled toffs from down south who are just so-not-2014, man.

         13 likes

      • Milverton says:

        Naturally it will ensure like minded people gravitate towards it, but Five Live also has the power to skew its invited guests, and does so in a deliberate fashion.

        Pienaar’s Politics on Sunday morning is perhaps Five Live’s ethos distilled.

           8 likes

      • #88 says:

        You’ve reminded me of a caller to Gameshow at the back end of last year.

        The topic (about immigration) hadn’t gone to plan and the caller (the last caller as it happens – why is it always the last caller?) set off on a rant and ending by saying that he never expected to have heard such a subject, or such comments on Five Live, ‘Five Live, of all stations,’ he said.

        A bit like lefties, who feel that they own the working class, or that they are entitled to hold on to skewed political boundaries, or dominate the quangos with their people, they seem to have come to the belief that the BBC is their own property.

           10 likes

  49. Pounce says:

    Scaremongering by the bBC:
    Dungeness B: Flood safety fears shut nuclear reactors
    EDF Energy “betrayed the public” after safety fears led to the closure of both reactors at Dungeness B nuclear power station in Kent, campaigners have said.

    They were taken offline for two months last May while extra sea defences were installed after a review into Japan’s Fukushima disaster highlighted risks. Barrie Botley, of Kent Against a Radioactive Environment, said not enough details were given at the time.

    So in a nutshell, after a review after the incident in Japan, the Brits, closed down the nuclear reactor at Dungerness in which to allow them to build a higher flood wall. But according to the bBC this was wrong. Love this bit of semantics from the bBC:
    “EDF issued a statement last May saying Unit 21 was offline for “planned refuelling” and Unit 22 for “improvements to flood defences for extreme events”.

    It said both units were expected to be returned to service that month.

    So reading the above would you get the impression that both had been closed down. Not to the ethical tampon user the bBC allows to vent his spleen:
    Mr Botley said that did not make clear that both reactors were completely out of action, They betrayed us all and I think it’s absolutely disgusting. They’re supposed to be very open nowadays and they’re not,” he said.

    Maybe Mr Botley should have asked the management at Dungerness to translate their news into Urdu, seeing as he can’t understand the Queens English.

    A non story bigged up by the bBC, in which to shove their green agenda down our throats.

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