Open Thread Wednesday

Remarkably the BBC is able to continue operating as smoothly as ever without the talented Chris Patten’s guiding hand….so I’m assuming the bias is coming as thick and fast as ever…list it here……

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  1. Beness says:

    Radio 5 attempting to carry on the smear of farage.

    Good call from a disabled UKIP supporter who commented on the hassle he got from the UAF when attending a meeting. No interest from Nolan and Pienaar.

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    • John Anderson says:

      What struck me was that he and others were very clued up about why they support UKIP, why they dismiss the lies told about UKIP. UKIP party membership is growing very fast, will soon overtake the LibDems – but the party organisation is pretty poor, there is not much experience at local level about how to run campaigns, and very few “party workers” to stuff the envelopes etc. But I have an abiding hope that a lot of sensible and normally quiet Brits are now speaking up for themselves – and they will be spreading the message to people they know, people they work with – showing that UKIP is a REAL political movement, deadly serious in its objectives. I just hope these people will help get the vote out.

      Locally here, lots of signs that lots of traditional LibDem, Labour and Tory party workers are not turning out to help. I still have not received anything from Labour or the LibDems, their slick party machines are creaking, it seems. Plus their election broadcasts have been a joke.

      The racism slurs have died down except among the lunatic fringe, and time after time Farage and other UKIP speakers are coming across on TV and radio clear and strong. Farage tonight kept his cool and his trademark humour, there may be many a slip twixt cup and lip but we are now in the final fortnight. There really is a head of steam, a huge stirring of public opinion – and I believe this will translate into good votes on the day. What UKIP needs is not just a big clutch of MEPs – it also needs lots of local Council candidates to be elected, to further demoralise the other party machines and party workers and supporters. The UKIP message round here is – you have 3 votes in your ward to elect Councillors – give just ONE of those votes to UKIP to help us shake up the whole shebang. Kick the other parties in the ballot-box.”

      As I mentioned a few days ago :

      “We are the people of Eng;land, and we have not spoken yet”

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      • Flexdream says:

        You men the ‘people of Britain’ – but otherwise spot on 🙂

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        • John Anderson says:

          Flexdream

          I was quoting the theme line from a G K Chesterton poem, that’s why I used the word England rather than Britain

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          • uncle bup says:

            ‘The fine french lords came over in a flutter of flags and dames,
            we liked their smiles and laughter but we never could say their names,
            the blood ran red on bosworth field and the fine french lords went down,
            they were naught but a naked kingdom under a naked crown’.

            E&oe, off the top of my head.

            Eyouo… edyooo…edddooo… teeching

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            • Stewart says:

              They of the East are full of pride,
              Cubs of the Lion’s den.
              They boast they breed a race of kings-
              But we of the West breed Men.
              Robert E Howard (much more than Conan)

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          • Dave s says:

            Chesterton is required reading nowadays. There is so much more to him than that fine poem. And it is of England he writes never of Britain.
            Kipling writes well of us also.

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  2. Geoff says:

    Pienaar lables Nigel Farage as ‘dangerous’ on Radio 5Live who along with fatty Nolan are reeling at the endless pro UKIP callers….

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  3. Beness says:

    Think Nolan and Pienar might have got more than they bargained for with the amount of calls supporting Farage.

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  4. Doublethinker says:

    UKIP deputy leader was interviewed on The Daily Politics yesterday. He was questioned about Farage’s remark that people should be worried if a Romanian family moved into their street. he dais well it was true , the Romanians were causing a huge crime wave. The interviewer said never mind if it was true or not was it racist! What more do we need to know about the BBC’s attitude to racism and the truth. As G Orwell said, ‘ In times of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act’.

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    • Dave s says:

      To paraphrase Solzhenitsyn
      The BBC lets the lie into our world.
      Cowardly, unpatriotic, greedy. and without honour.
      They are the dregs of old England and we need new men and women. We deserve much btter than this ancien regime of useless hasbeens. .

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  5. Ian Rushlow says:

    You pay for this filth… The BBC considers itself as having a mission to constantly “challenge” (that is, undermine) the way we think about ourselves and society. By way of example, their website is currently running an article on the Feminist Porn Awards in Toronto. It is resplendent with characters such as “…a man, a woman, and a female-to-male transgender person, opening a world of sexual possibilities unimaginable to the uninitiated.” We learn that “Feminist porn is political – men, women, transgender people, gays, lesbians, ‘queer’ people, straight people, disabled people, people of colour, fat people – all are filmed on their own terms and express their own sexuality”. And, of course, being the BBC there has to be an “exotic” ethnic component (“Part Iranian and Tunisian porn star Arabelle Raphael…”). No doubt there is some sort of market for this sort of stuff and what consenting adults get up to in private is a matter for them. But why do we have to hear about it from the BBC? Or is it that there are some links with the BBC employees responsible for this “news”? See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27192724. Or rather, don’t see.

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    • RJ says:

      I went over to see what it was about.

      The blokes involved must be taking industrial quantities if Viagra.

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    • pah says:

      But much of the soft porn on the ‘Adult’ channels involves lesbians. What is so revolutionary about that? 😉

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  6. Charlatans says:

    Michael Portillo has just committed ‘Hari Kari’ and handed his own P45 to the BBC last night on ‘This Week’, when he said to Andrew Neil that the licence fee is no longer sustainable:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b043hn2p/This_Week_08_05_2014/

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    • John Anderson says:

      So far none of the mainstream parties has committed to any radical change on the licence fee. Yes, Portillo is just about the first politico of any fame to commit – but there are very few. Labour will want to keep the status quo and so will the LibDems, the Tories are vacillating (and surprisingly complacent about the vitriol they get from the BBC, the endless bias. They are scared of the BBC attacking them more strongly in the 2015 election ?.

      Farage and UKIP actually draw some strength from attacks by the BBC. It all adds to their charge that the metropolitan elite are totally out of touch with the views of ordinary people. I think UKIP will need to say something radical about the BBC – and I would not be surprised if they came out with a proposal to abolish it..

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  7. Charlatans says:

    Wow – UKIP really piling on the pressure now – EU President Barroso has had just performed a massive U Turn on any EU Treaty Changes:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/08/jose-manuel-barroso-britain-eu-special-one

    Just a couple of months ago we got this total rejection on any UK changes to it’s EU relationship:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/460056/NO-negotiation-of-freedom-of-movement-says-defiant-EU-President-Jose-Manuel-Barroso

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    • Frank Words says:

      Interesting. I wonder why JMB said that….

      Manna from heaven for “Dave”.

      But I wouldn’t put my pension on that proposal coming to pass. Come to that I wouldn’t put half a crown on it.

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    • Rtd Colonel says:

      Isn’t he due to retire before any negotiation – easy propaganda

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    • Dave s says:

      The EU is terrified of us. if we go that’s it. End of the EU. This is just an attempt to bolster Cameron.

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      • pah says:

        The EU can carry on perfectly well without the UK being part of it. All it needs do is keep the ‘free’ trade going. Without our markets they would be severely dented but they’d still survive.

        Either way that’s not on the cards. When we leave the EU they will still need our markets and we will still theirs. We just won’t have to pay for it or suffer too much of their stupidity. Hopefully.

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        • Dave s says:

          I was not thinking about trade. The blow to the EU’s prestige will be so great I expect it will implode.
          Not all Europeans by any means support this undemocratic institution.

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  8. Jeff Waters says:

    The Premier League is the richest in the world and it is embarrassing that these resources are not being used to help England close the gap on other European nations such as Spain, Germany and France.
    Typical BBC – the answer to everything is to throw someone else’s money at the problem. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27330237
    Dyke knows this. He also knows that the minute England exit the World Cup in Brazil, then the spotlight will turn on him and the FA.
    So he’s writing England off before the first ball has been kicked! Very patriotic!

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    • uncle bup says:

      Sky pay Scotland/ West Albania twelve million quid for its entire football product vs over a billion quid Sky pay for the Premiership’s domestic rights alone.

      S/WA saw them coming.

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  9. George R says:

    “BBC presenter Graham Norton earned £2.3m in fees and salary last year”

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/09/bbc-graham-norton-fees-pay?

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  10. Umbongo says:

    On Today this morning (admittedly in the dead zone post-8:30) the BBC got its act together to hit the coalition’s (arguably) most successful policies: in economics and education. Mishal “interviewed” Larry Summers. Larry was introduced as an ex Secretary of the US Treasury. There was no mention AFAIAA that this was a Clinton appointment, that Summers is a partisan dirigiste economist. Larry excoriated the UK recovery and, basically, asserted that it was all smoke and mirrors, that the UK economy has not got back to its pre-2008 level and that “austerity” didn’t work. Why the Today editor selected Mishal (pretty, female and Muslim) to be the sacrificial lamb here rather than Evan – a trained (if lefty) economist – is a mystery!
    Now I happen to agree with Summers that the UK recovery is almost purely a matter of over-exuberant government spending and borrowing, together with cynical encouragement of the banks to create a property bubble. However, Summers (and the BBC) are being dishonest in describing Osborne’s strategy as “austerity”. It isn’t and never has been. Government expenditure and borrowing have been consistently growing under Osborne: we are still not in sight of a balanced budget let alone bringing down the UK’s mounting accumulated government debt (let alone private debt).
    Unfortunately economic and financial criticism allowed by the BBC is overwhelmingly from the left. It would be refreshing – even interesting and informative – if other voices were occasionally heard. But then, of course, the little people might question the wisdom of those brought on to preach socialism and statism to the masses and that would never do. Why, they might even reject the political class and its mouthpiece and refuse to vote for any of that class’s 3 major political machines.
    The next item concerned the apparent failure of one of the earliest free schools – in Bedford – the subject of a highly critical Ofsted report. Although this item is “news” it was evidently selected as an opportunity to smear Gove’s “free school” policy. By an unusual coincidence the Guardian has also been on the case. You might almost think that metro lefties – or lefties in general – don’t like the free school idea altogether.

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    • Deborah says:

      At 6.50 this morning on Today was Margaret Hodge with a several minute rant about poorly run finances at Free Schools. A headmaster was given about 10 seconds in which he explained he was experiencing far greater monitoring by the DFES of the school’s finances than he had experienced when head of a local authority controlled school or as an Academy. Mishal immediately cut him off and went directly back to Margaret with scarcely a question but allowed to resume her anti government, anti Gove rant.

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      • Umbongo says:

        I must say that doesn’t surprise me. Lady Hodge is never subjected to any genuine questioning on the BBC of her assertions or policies (or her history of enabling child abuse when she chaired Islington Council). The “questioning” usually takes the form of asking Lady Hodge to expand on her unquestioned assertions.

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        • uncle bup says:

          Yes, I sadly remember James C*nt interviewing Mad Gordon MacRuin on the Today Programme with…

          ‘So Prime Minister what message have you got for the nation today?’

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      • BBC Love a Labour Luvvie says:

        BBC Breakfast, when it was transmitting and not running the BBC World Service, only had Hodge on, there was no one else to defend or counter balance anything she said.

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  11. noggin says:

    “Court – Tara McKelvey
    BBC News, New York

    In the courtroom, Abu Hamza is wearing drawstring cotton pants and a light-blue, V-necked T-shirt that fits loosely over his shoulders.
    His voice is husky, and his glasses are attached to a black cord that is slung over his shoulder.
    When he talks, he bobs his head up and down. At times he licks the stump of his arm and turns a page of a document.

    He has a sense of humour. He says he changed his name in the UK, adding that the process was simple.

    “You pay £25 ($40) and you write an application saying, ‘I want to be John Travolta,’ and you are John Travolta,” he says.
    Then he explains he did not really choose that name.
    The jurors smile.”

    ….. BBC celebrity trial ????? …

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    • Guest Who says:

      Tonality is such tricky thing to pin down.
      But often with BBC ‘reporting’ the way facts are conveyed does seem to betray more than the authors’ may intend as to where their empathies lie.
      An undermining term here, a moral-boosting hint of support there… depends who is naughty or nice.
      I am awaiting the next batch of cooking tips from terrorists as the BBC Pulitzer-aspirants get their people to set up a meat and two veg with Boko’s PR fixers so’s the public has a right to know what their motivations for their daring and audacious Robin Hood capers are.
      Though Michelle ‘#sadface’ FLOTUS may have screwed the pooch on that one, at least with the twitter crowd.

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  12. Jeff Waters says:

    Family rows linked to early death – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27327325

    The Telegraph, covering the same story, gives us a minor detail that the BBC must have forgotten to include:

    Men who were subjected to ‘nagging’, constant demands and worries from their partners, were 2.5 as likely to die within ten years than those with less stressful relationships.

    The effect is so strong it could account for hundreds of deaths a year, the researchers suggested.

    However women may be more immune to nagging as there was little effect on their death rates, it was found.

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  13. Edited Highlights says:

    Not yet featuring this particular story on the BBC politics page, but after all they said about UKIP posters in the name of balance and impartiality it will be up there anytime soon…..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/10818600/Labour-attacked-over-election-peas-in-a-pod-poster-blunder.html

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    • Guest Who says:

      🙂
      Sure it’s only a matter of time before Nick and the gang start analysing the whazoo out of this latest foul-up, unless they’re still trying to figure out what not to say about the nice party’s latest party political foul up too.
      It might be worth knowing at least who signs off on these efforts, because if it was Ed he might not seem the best choice when it comes to smart calls if seeking to lead the country.

      And if it was the intern… again… not sure the entire ShadCab can really all suddenly claim they were elsewhere, forgot, got astoundingly uncurious, etc… as such things are the sole preserve of the BBC market rate top tier.
      Speaking of whom, I wonder if they’ve decided how best to spin Nick R’s little FoI faux pas considering the entire departments they have on the roster to handle such things?

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  14. Thoughtful says:

    Oh dear Cleggy, once the Liebour party has you in its sights the BBC is sure to follow, and although I’m not clear as to why Milipedes team see you as such a threat it seems the BBC are willing to play ball in any event.

    Today we have released / leaked documents questioning Cleggs role in the free school meals policy announcement and accusations that poor old Cleggy had lied, and was squandering tax payers money (like politicians of all shades don’t!).

    It’s obvious that these documents and the timing of their release is going to damage Clegg, and by dent the Liberal party ahead of the elections and one wonders whether the BBC would have given them the same prominence if it had been Labour the allegations were made about.

    The only reason I can imagine the two parties are attacking the Fib Dems is for control of local government where they don’t appear to have been as tainted as the main party.

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  15. Pounce says:

    Afternoon,
    I don’t know if anybody has mentioned this, but does anybody know why the bBC has completely ignored the execution of 2 men in Gaza by Hamas. (1 hanged,the other shot) Now the reason I bring this up is becasue the other day the bBC went to great lengths in which to berate the US for having the affront to put these 2 menon death row:
    (Lockett was sentenced to death for the 1999 shooting of a 19-year-old woman. Warner was convicted for the 1997 murder and rape of an 11-month-old girl.)
    Oh how the bBC expresses at its displeasure at how the US gets rid of murderers , yet for some strange reason it remains somewhat silent on how the Islamic world not only does likewise, but to a much highter degree.

    The bBC, the mouth piece for radical Islam, paid for by you.

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    • Flexdream says:

      The BBC is obsessed with the US, especially Obama, guns, and anything which smacks of racism.

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    • 43 says:

      They also fail to report that they want to murder another 12m of us where ever they find us.

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  16. Thoughtful says:

    Interesting to hear on TWATO a UKIP hatchet job which had a contributor who said that they need to learn that anti Muslim sentiment is unacceptable! No one challenged him, it is very unlikely that they would given that its deeply ingrained thinking.
    Yet more bias, and confirmation of the Islamophilia.

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    • Flexdream says:

      I wish there was more criticism of all religions, and I’m religious. I wish we had free speech, or even speech as free as we used to have. I don’t remember the blasphemy law being as repressive as the hate speech laws.
      My religion has no problem with being criticised even ridiculed, as long as it’s not taxpayer funded ridicule.

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    • John Anderson says:

      But the BBC’s Islamophilia just keeps stacking up the votes for UKIP ?

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  17. Jeff Waters says:

    Longest recession for 100 years ends at last as output finally returns to 2008 levels

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2623864/Recession-growth-finally-returns-2008-level-Storming-start-2014-means-longest-downturn-100-years-finished.html#ixzz31DpVUG2Z

    The BBC have been very quiet about this minor news development.

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  18. Geoff says:

    More multicult diversity and integration…..

    Can’t find this on BBC News national or local, maybe because its becoming such a frequent occurrence that its no longer newsworthy?

    http://www.getbucks.co.uk/news/local-news/girl-14-used-sex-four-6942325

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  19. Pounce says:

    I see the bBC is still promoting the view that the Nigerian government and not Islamic Terrorists are the ones to blame for the kidnapping of those girls.
    Government response to Nigeria kidnaps ‘unacceptable’

    The thing is this is the very same bBC which while berating the Nigerian government for not doing anything (well so they say) is the same bBC which bitches like Scott after a babycham or two regards how Nigeria treats Islamic terrorists.

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    • Pounce says:

      And faster than you can utter the title to an Electric six song

      The bBC brings out an article which again points the finger of blame at the Nigerian Government while totally leaving out just who kidnapped the girls in the first place.
      Nigeria abductions: Warnings of school raid ‘ignored’

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    • thoughtful says:

      If the Nigerian army had 4 hours notice and then did sweet FA then I think it’s fair to report it and to blame the government.

      The perpetrators are always to blame, but sometimes other people are too.

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      • Stewart says:

        True ,but I don’t see the BBC holding St. Obama to the same level of accountability over the Benghazi massacre

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      • Pounce says:

        Thoughtful wrote:
        “If the Nigerian army had 4 hours notice and then did sweet FA then I think it’s fair to report it and to blame the government.”

        Lets look at the above in a clean light. A call was received by a Police post at 10pm on a Monday night from an unknown source. (the source was a villager in Gagilam (The next village on from Chibok)
        Now in light of how BH love to attack Nigerian security forcex, would you send your men down a rickety road at the dead of night into hostile territory, nah you would wait until it was light. Then there’s the communication barrier, how easy is it in the UK for minions to reach their leaders after lights out? Northern Nigeria isn’t the same as the UK and in that area if you pester the political elite during anti-social hours you lose your job. (well it is the third world) There was a contingent of army in the Village of Chibok (17 armed men) problem was, there was 200 better armed terrorists facing them.

        Hindsight is a wonderful thing especially if we don’t have the full facts.

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        • noggin says:

          T …
          how much hindsight does it take, if you happen to be one of the teachers,
          to make sure your own children are moved out to safety?

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      • chrisH says:

        The BBC NEVER think that the perps are to blame.
        Muslims just can`t bear poverty and injustice so now wonder they blow the rest of us up and slip halal crap into the food chain.
        The BBC and the liberal elite know this-why oh why don`t we the civilians and the beige drabs outside their bubbles?
        No-Kate Allan and Amnesty would themselves have saved those girls from the poverty-stricken Boko Haram lads…but unfortunately there was an RAF bloke taking photos of a dead Taliban…which is the REAL crime here.
        Amnesty, Greens Guardian and the BBC..liberals and labour…would that WE cared as they do!
        Tossers!

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      • Flexdream says:

        The BBC is curiously uninterested in the fact that there clearly is a vibrant slave market in Islamic Africa where you can sell hundreds of non-Muslim women.

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  20. George R says:

    Polio.

    1.) ‘Jihadwatch’:-

    “New York Times notes polio’s return, doesn’t dare explain why”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/new-york-times-notes-polios-return-doesnt-dare-explain-why

    2.) BBC-NUJ:-

    What’s missing here?:-

    “Why is polio a public health emergency?”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-27295888

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  21. George R says:

    “WATCH: BBC DAILY POLITICS FOCUSES ON BREITBART LONDON IN FEATURE ON NEW MEDIA”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/09/BBC-features-Breitbart-London

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  22. George R says:

    Islamising TURKEY and U.K’s political class.

    All main U.K political parties (and BBC-NUJ), campaign for entry of 80 million Muslim Turks into E.U., so such U.K propagandists are inclined to be quiet about this, at present:-

    “Turkey: Hagia Sophia to be mosque and museum, icons to be cast into shadow to avoid offending Islam”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/turkey-hagia-sophia-to-be-mosque-and-museum-icons-to-be-cast-into-shadow-to-avoid-offending-islam

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    • John Anderson says:

      Hagia Sophia is an awesome building – for over 1000 years the largest church in the world.

      It is already Islamicised in that there are minarets all round it, and massive discs up high in the dome with Islamic verses. But Kemal Ataturk restored it to its historic significance, ceasing its use as a mosque, and treating it as a glorious Byzantine relic that now attracts tourists from all over the world.

      Just a few hundred yards opposite is the Blue Mosque – massive enough for all the Muslims who want to worship. And there are other large mosques nearby. They are all mostly copying the original 500AD Justinian design.

      It is pure Islamic supremacy that drives the present Turkish government to re-dedicate Hagia Sophia as a mosque. A poke in the eye to the Christians – including millions of Christian tourists. And all part of the government’s aim to be the leader of the Middle Eastern world.

      I hope this damages their tourist trade. I have visited Istanbul twice in the past 5 years – the old district of Sultanahmet is a relaxed area, last time was during Ramadan and it was fine to see the families in the nearby street markets in the evenings.

      What seems so hypocritical is that in spite of the strong Islamism of Turkey’s government these days, Turkey still wants to join the West in terms of membership of the EU – and mugs like Cameron support this. And Turkey wants the protection it has had for many years from NATO – but wants to spit in our eye. They want it both ways.

      Once again – UKIP is the only UK party that opposes Turkish membership of the EU. I imagine not just because of the admission of another 80 million people in a nation that is still relatively poor, but because it would become an easy travel conduit for millions and millions more from the Middle East and the ‘Stans. There is an overt aim to conquer Europe’s former civilisation by sheer force of numbers.

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      • John Anderson says:

        I should have added, I now don’t aim to return to Istanbul, for all its natural setting and made-made glories. This latest move is a sign of sheer intolerance. I wonder if Putin will take umbrage at this sacrilege of the greatest monument of the Orthodox Christian Church ?

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        • noggin says:

          John …
          Erdogan. .. is dangerous
          his cohorts are true … fascist
          Turkey will fold in quicker than a cheap bedouin tent, if he stays around …
          this concerted EU push is astounding
          to me.

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  23. Thoughtful says:

    OK this is very funny and it illustrates the ocean of ignorance left wing liberals have about the reality of Islam.

    In a normal world it should make it onto topical current affairs programs such as HIGNFY or the now show.

    Apparently there are a number of people who actually believe that the school girls abducted in Nigeria were taken by 60s pop group Procul Harum.

    People have been tweeting their incredulity that the group could have done such a thing, and one US senator has voiced his displeasure on a chat show.

    “It’s shocking that Procol Harum’s records are still being played on the radio after what they did in Nigeria.”

    “Wow! What happened to Procol Harum? Whiter Shade of Pale was a great song, but it doesn’t excuse terrorism.”

    You’d expect this to be the subject of derision and the subject of several jokes, but somehow given the state of the BBC, you just know it’s never going to be.

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/378098/Rock-band-Procol-Harum-blamed-for-abducting-Nigerian-schoolgirls-in-terrorist-group-mix-up

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  24. lojolondon says:

    Watch the pathetic B-BBC Newsnight interviewing Marie Le Pen and desperately trying to get soundbites where she would associate the FN with UKIP and Nigel Farage. When she failed, she tried to get her to slag him off – she was properly owned!!

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3e_1399642799

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    • noggin says:

      doing the same thing right now on 5Live drive
      G Wilders the new Hitler, Le Pen, UKIP, Far Right Far Right, Far Right

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  25. noggin says:

    From earlier in the thread, N Farage – and the BBC plant … oops I mean audience member on QT last night.

    http://youtu.be/GAJhdZYkKqA

    I m old enough to have, read the rivers of blood?
    but not old enough (mentally), to realise that Powell never said that, his actual words
    “As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see ‘the River Tiber foaming with much blood.'”
    and not mentally astute enough to realise he was almost Prophetic, with the riots that came later …
    as he was about the common market.

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    • noggin says:

      “It was Powell who, in 1957, predicted that excessive State borrowing would bring economic decline.
      Long before Milton Friedman, the free-market champion who won the Nobel Prize for Economics for demonstrating the link between an expansion in the supply of money and higher inflation, Powell explicitly outlined that argument.
      In the Sixties, he mocked the use of prices and incomes policies (with which the government tried to control inflation by limiting increases in wages and prices).
      He also ridiculed the scape-goating of trades unions for ‘causing’ inflation by demanding big pay rises.

      He deplored the waste of public money on nationalised industries and urged what he called their ‘denationalisation’, using the funds freed to pay for tax cuts to encourage economic growth.
      He also understood that if Scotland had a separate parliament, it would inevitably soon become a separate country.
      Powell had no objection to immigration. He had a profound one, however, to immigration on so large a scale, because it meant immigrants found it impossible to integrate.
      He had witnessed the disaster of multiculturalism on the sub-continent (such as problems between different religions in India) and had no wish to see communal strife here,
      but he feared mass immigration would cause it.”

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  26. chrisH says:

    Today sent Chris Sykes to Latvia this morning, and his report is clearly that of a provocateur, as far as I`m concerned.
    What point is there in BBC hacks trawling the sensitive Baltic region at this moment, seemingly in the hope that it`ll all kick off?
    Absolutely no point to this, unless you want a rumble and a Pilger Award, with pictures by Don McCullin.
    I hate the BBC-really do!

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  27. chrisH says:

    Today this morning had some knowledgeable head of a free school or two, who clearly knew his stuff and was not going to be browbeaten by serial fake Maggie Hodge re the cost of these schools.
    He fought back and poor Maggie was on the ropes, until Mishal Hussain intervened, gave Maggie both first and final words; and did not allow Liam(the head) to squash Hodges assertions-instead piling on her own quibbles once again by way of another red herring or ten.
    Hussain knew nothing-knows even less about halal in Trojan Horse schools, despite her being a Muslim…but allowed Hodge to get away with her nonsense.
    Well done Liam-but there are always two dogs in the fight when you dare to take on the Left whilst on the BBC!
    Utterly transparent though-and clearly the Left and the BBC just can`t cope with real people doing jobs…yes, it works…but how will it turn out in theory?

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  28. Guest Who says:

    news@mailout.external.bbc.co.uk
    RAF man ‘posed with dead insurgent’

    Photos emerge appearing to show UK serviceman posing with dead Taliban fighter
    News?
    Possibly, if hardly momentous.
    Especially as the weasel is currently ‘appearing to show’. More so as Piers Morgan is again freelancing.
    Maybe wait a wee while to confirm? The ‘victim’ isn’t likely to move much. And standing beside a stiff isn’t quite on par with sticking your fingers in your ears as Stuie ushers a wee lass into the dressing room.
    Also, clearing the decks to send a breaking news special email with this seems… oddly prioritised… given what the BBC seems to have got into a hatch batten down funk over with actual news of live (one hopes) innocents at the hands of those less keen on silly things like young girls learning stuff.
    BBC, your moral relativism meter is well and truly screwed.
    Maybe Mishal and Jon can whack out a quick hashtag outrage sign to wave tomorrow?
    #FLOTUSsayssadfacewhennext2bodiesofguystryingtokillyou

       17 likes

    • Pounce says:

      2 people executed by Hamas in Gaza..bBC nothing
      300 odd people executed by Islamic terrorists inside Nigeria on Monday…bBC, move along nothing to see here.
      nearly 300 Christian school girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists inside Nigeria..bBC blame the victims
      The wholesale adoption of Halal meat in the Uk which goes agaisnt the law regards the human treatment of Animals .The bBC….This is Islamophobic.
      Islamic terrorist who murders a soldier in london..The bBC he is a victim

      A picture of a dead Islamic terrorist with a rock ape stood next to him…Human rights crime call Tell Mama, the UN, the Green party and anybody else who wears faux leather sandles,drinks ethical coffee and takes it up the arse

      The bBC, the traitors within our midst.

         24 likes

    • Joshaw says:

      And I’m sure the RAF man used the word “insurgent”.

      Pity he couldn’t find a few more.

         8 likes

      • noggin says:

        I ve just heard a total dhimmi f-ckwit
        on 5live drive given lots of airtime,
        to continually state, that this would enrage
        and offend this expired terrorists
        “muslim brothers” (shakes head)
        here in the UK …

        why? … this Taliban sh-tbag was killed attacking in a daring attempt at mass murder.

        Do muslims here not condemn this terrorism?

        Abhor that muslims from here, are going to Syria to commit atrocities.?

        If you want to commit mass murder and are stopped, from doing so by a military personnel … do muslims not rejoice?
        … if not, … why not?

        So cannibalism, beheading, torture, beatings executions whilst quoting the Quranic correct verses,whilst doing it, filming it on phones, or video is just not so … “offensive”e?

        whats worse? … a photo of Ahmed the dead terrorist … (nearly said cartoon then) …
        or the above?
        … here is no equivalence here?

        BBC – Bloody beneath contempt.
        PS.
        didn t catch it all, but think this might have been a military spokesman

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      • Flexdream says:

        I don’t think our troops should be in Afghan, fighting insurgents who I believe think correctly that we are the invader. But frankly who gives a toss then about a photo being taken. It’s not headline news, and I think even the Taliban wont be interested. No doubt some UK lawyers are licking their lips though.

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    • Merched Becca says:

      INBBC in their comfy armchairs harping on about the Geneva Convention etc., – Just what bloody Geneva Convention are the ‘Taliban following’?

         11 likes

  29. Dave666 says:

    The song remains the same at North West Tonight..”Fracking Is blamed for an increase in earthquwakes in America…” Oh please. I’ve just turned the 6 O’ clock news off I just can’t face it.

       19 likes

    • uncle bup says:

      Did they also blame fracking for creating a few hundred thousand jobs and knocking two-thirds off the price of gas.

      If not they should have.

         14 likes

      • Stewart says:

        And lowering US’s carbon emissions- surely they think that a good thing don’t they?

           9 likes

  30. Joshaw says:

    Getting away from UKIP for a moment, any danger of the BBC covering something like this:

    Teenagers join the LSO

    Too elitist, wrong kind of diversity?lso-open-air-concert

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  31. ROBERT JONES says:

    BBC War Crime report: A British soldier after a battle with his thumbs up near a dead Taliban.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1258572/uk-soldier-posed-with-dead-taliban-fighter

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  32. Pounce says:

    The bBC and when a racist attack isn’t a racist attack when then victim isn’t a fucking ….Muslim.
    Coventry woman jailed for attack on 80-year-old man
    A woman who carried out a “sickening” unprovoked attack on a pensioner has been jailed for three-and-a-half years. Coral Millerchip, 20, punched 80-year-old Joginder Singh to the ground in Coventry city centre, before kicking him and spitting on him. Mr Singh, from Canley, was afterwards admitted to hospital with a pre-known illness, and died three months later.

    Can you image the reporting from the bBC if the poor man had been a Muslim?

       13 likes

    • Joshaw says:

      I’m wondering if the delightful Coral thought she was attacking a Muslim.

         4 likes

    • noggin says:

      5Live drive – A Chiles
      rise of the Far Right
      Euro election
      support for the Far Right … UKIP
      G Wilders the new Hitler,
      Le Pen, … UKIP, Far Right, Far Right, Far Right
      UKIP and … er Far Right

      2hrs 29 min
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042lgzx

      if you really want to spit out your tea listen in to
      Col. Camp in the report before
      re- the RAF dead terrorist photo
      and possible upset and offence to his
      “muslim brothers” here in the UK

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  33. Llareggub says:

    First they came for Paul Weston quoting Churchill, now they are arresting other EU parliamentary candidates. Copied from the Britain First FB page. I understand the BBC banned their political broadcast.

    “Paul Golding, EU election candidate for Wales and three other BF men arrested today in London in a street confrontation with a hate mob protesting against against the Indian state for NOT having Sharia law! Lads are still in Jail.
    The Party Political Broadcast goes out tonight in Wales on ITV at 10.35 and BBC 2 Wales at 11.05, BBC 1 Wales 10.35
    Duw Bendithia Cymru! O C S!”

    Bet you won’t hear of this arrest on the BBC news.

    After rounding up the minority parties will they come for Nigel? I suggest he treads very carefully during the next couple of weeks.

       12 likes

    • noggin says:

      I actually checked out the BBC bias on that one.
      impossible to get to check the party political broadcast
      it shows its time frame, but …. impossible to watch
      free and fair election broadcasts? … not on the BBC

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  34. #88 says:

    Good for Ken Clarke on tonight’s Any Questions [below 08min:40secs].

    The first person that I have heard who has (at last) told the Nigeria story as it is:

    ‘Every time we have terrorist things…suddenly the government and the security service should have stopped it. If you’re not careful you start blaming the government for something that is the fault of MAD AND EXTREMIST TERRORISTS…’

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042lp9j

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  35. Reed says:

    LibDem plant on Question Time!

    Via ‘The Rise of UKIP’ Facebook page…

    QUESTION TIME PLANT.
    We knew it wouldn’t take the kippers long to flush out the plant on QT last night.
    So who was he?.
    He is called Charlie Bloom, he is the ex partner of Louise Bloom a Lib-Dem Cllr in Eastleigh.
    They have a daughter, Caitlin Bloom an ex Lib-Dem Cllr in Eastleigh.
    Louise Bloom has a new partner,
    his name is Cllr Keith House, he is the Lib-Dem leader of Eastleigh borough council.
    They have a puppet called Mike Thornton Lib-Dem MP for Eastleigh.
    Lib-Dems hold 40 of the 44 seats in Eastleigh. which stinks in itself.
    All these people are greens in disguise.
    They have decimated Eastleigh for decades with their idealist views,
    toted up a sickening debt by poor management.
    But the undoing of this will commence on the 22nd of may as UKIP Eastleigh field 15 candidates across the borough filling all available spots. And are tipped to do very well.
    No more dirty politics in Eastleigh.
    Democratic fair representation for the people.

    http://tinyurl.com/mjj9mng

    10176229_666722340080132_1110076944728578151_n.jpg

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    • noggin says:

      told you I d heard that sneering voice before

      http://youtu.be/GAJhdZYkKqA

         16 likes

      • Danny Howard says:

        You are blaming him for something his ex-wife did? I just had a look at his Twitter account. He divorced her 14 years ago and he is not a member of any political party. UKIP need to tread carefully here. There is nothing whatsoever wrong in members of the public holding career politicians like Farage to account. Hounding people who ask questions is not wise.

           2 likes

        • DICK R says:

          He is still a verminous little weasel

             2 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          ‘Hounding people who ask questions is not wise’
          You are of course correct.
          Neither is expediting them.
          But guessing your venture into precedent is, as always, selective.

             4 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          I too just had a look at his twitter account.
          Charlie Bloom ‏@chasobursledon
          I have a life! Off out for the day.
          It would appear that having opted to weigh in and voice opinion, tell others they are wrong, that they can be talked over, etc, the response to being confronted with counter view is rather predictable, not to mention oddly familiar.
          Guessing that when family, friends and work commitments no longer impose, and irony neatly stuffed away, he’ll be broadcasting to the public again?

             4 likes

    • Geoff says:

      Knew it! Thanks for posting.

         15 likes

      • Merched Becca says:

        Ha. Is that our friend ‘Scott’ in the front row at 0:11 ?

           11 likes

    • Llareggub says:

      Yes, and don’t we love the Eastleigh Lib Dems, whose large metal signposts tell you as you enter the borough how the council are tackling climate change. Meanwhile, a loving relationship between the council and developers, with hedges and local habitat destroyed for building ugly blocks of flats.

         18 likes

      • John Anderson says:

        I notice that the LibDems have driven Eastleigh into deep debt. I hope they get hammered for their profligacy.

        It is about time all this touchy-feely LibDem and Green stuff was displayed for what it really is – a way of leeching Council Tax of the rest of us poor food-bank users to fund all their PC nonsense – climate change obeisance to the EU, vanity projects, green stuff, overmanning and bad Council management , often piss-poor standards of local services – and underneath it all the clear risks of corruption.

        There are a lot of Augean stables to be cleaned out around our local Councils. My local one benefits from having a massive regional shopping centre which must contribute enormously to Council revenues (even though the central Government takes most of the business rates). But in spite of this massive financial windfall, the LibDems have a Council Tax that is 50% above the average for London, double the rate for , say, Hammersmith. If UKIP gets inside the machine it will be very interesting to see what can be exposed.

        Oh – and the former LibDem Council leader was jailed last year for child porn. I somehow don’t recall the BBC shouting that one from the rooftops, or the LibDem Councillor in an adjacent borough who was convicted last year for a racial attack.

        The BBC goes into a frenzy about a few UKIP idiots who say awfully awfully bad things !!!! – but sod all about actual serious proven CRIMES by LibDems who are in office, not obscure candidates.

        Bias – what bias ?

        I think some tumbrils will be rumbling on 22 May. If I had a missus I’d be kitting her out with some knitting needles, methinks. I could use a new cardigan or a nice warm scarf !

           20 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      This seems to have hit twitter big time. There are some still citing this chap as a worthy spokesperson for the nation on UKIP disgust ((c) previous QT plants), but a lot now questioning the now familiar activist ringer backfire.
      What would be good is an objective investigation and report by a trusted news medium.
      Given the BBC is the story, again, that rules them out. Again.

         13 likes

      • Barlicker says:

        It really is outrageous that QT regularly gives Liberal and Labour Party plants an uninterrupted rant. Why isn’t someone who the BBC couldn’t ignore holding them to account? And what of David Dimbleby – has this so-called journalist and impartial commentator no self-respect?

           14 likes

    • Charlatans says:

      This Bloom fella is really getting slated on Twitter:

      https://twitter.com/chasobursledon?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Forder-order.com%2F2014%2F05%2F10%2Fsaturday-seven-up-233%2F&tw_i=323199301813669888&tw_p=tweetembed
      Not only for being such a total hypocrite by asking Nigel not to speak over him, then at first opportunity talks over Nigel saying he can do that!

      His daughter apparently involved in the disgusting dancing on Thatcher’s grave saga.

         8 likes

  36. Smell the glove says:

    Radio 2
    Steve wright
    Dr person
    So there has been a rise in tuberculosis cases recently
    What’s that about
    Obviously with immigration and such there has been a marked rise in this problem . What’s that about

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  37. Alex says:

    Who cares? Oh that’s right, the BBC does…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27354339

    The BBC seem to have some type of sympathy these vile scum

       6 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      It wasn’t much of a story, but has clearly become one, evidenced by the gaggle of usual suspects falling over each other to blow it up into more than it is (and getting roundly panned by the public for attempting to). The Telegraph version is no more than a mirror of the BBC one from last night.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27346071

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10820745/British-servicemen-pose-with-dead-Taliban-fighter.html

      My main initial objection was the BBC clearing the decks and on no more than an ‘appeared’ basis rushing to print and broadcast as soon as they possibly could, along with an idiot ‘breaking news’ email deemed more critical to bring to public attention than anything else. This was from 2012.

      Some extreme ideologues attacked a base, bringing mayhem and death before them, until the threat was neutralised. The worst that ‘appears’ to have happened is some adrenaline-pumped soldiers in post fog-of-war reaction foolishly celebrated not being murdered by posing with a thumbs up gesture and, worse, sharing this imagery such that armchair generals and pond-scum outrage trawlers were handed an unfortunate photo op.

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27354339

      ‘There is no suggestion the fighter was shot in cold blood or abused afterwards, but the incident could represent a breach of the Geneva Conventions, our correspondent said

      So to ‘appeared’, we now have a ‘could’ being willed on this incident by the BBC’s finest ‘correspondent’.

      However, all things considered, given what had been, does and will go down in such theatres, if that’s the best the lawyers and activists and BBC ‘reporters’ can get excited about, they really need to grow a pair, get a life and look in the mirror. Not to mention at actual Geneva Convention breaches by those whose motivations they seem keener to understand.

      Here’s a BBC reporter reacting to no more than a bit of intrusive nagging, which is a bit different to slaughtering colleagues and trying to kill you all the time:

      These soldiers’ superiors are between a rock and a hard place, but past reactions have created rods for their own backs. Actual abuse needs cracking down on as it serves enemy propaganda (especially that provided or facilitated by the state media funded via compulsion by the same government that sends them into these rulebook-shredding hell holes), but in cases like this the sensible reaction was clearly to tell the fit-of-the-vapours ninnies to get real and come back when there’s something worth getting exercised by.

      My kids are looking at the military as a career, and no one could be prouder than I that they seek to serve. However, the calibre of senior officer that would lead them, politician that would send them into harm’s way, and venal media seeking to undermine with deadly effect their efforts, means I am doing all in my power to dissuade them.

         5 likes

  38. Flexdream says:

    Why has the BBC gone so quiet on CAR? What’s happened to all the anti-Muslim violence we were being bombarded with?

       9 likes

  39. DownBoy says:

    Unexpected credit to the Now Show last night (never thought I’d be saying that). John Holmes put up a fine defence of Jeremy Clarkson and had a real go at Harriet Harman and lefties in general. Worth a listen for rarity value.

       12 likes

    • Rtd Colonel says:

      Yes, caught myself cooking at wife had left radio 4 tuned in. I have to say that apart from the execrable NIck Doody the 15 mins or so that I heard was actually the least blatantly biased episode I have heard – albeit it is pretty rare now that I catch it precisely for that reason. Part of an ease up/radio silence on UKIP as far as the Beeb is concerned?

         6 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        The first 15 minutes were actually quite reasonable, but the remaining part reverted to Socialist Workers Party meme and carried on attacking anyone left of Karl Marx.

           7 likes

    • Charlatans says:

      You right – cannot believe I heard and really enjoyed that show. Normally, halfway through such BBC comedy, I am seething with anger at the balance and bias:

      It is well worth a listen and chuckle:

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b042lp9b

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  40. noggin says:

    BBC Newswatch had the usual trope of
    orchestrated emails, this morning …
    … followed by some patronising Beebot
    listening intently, then dishing out
    “sorry … only have small change” patter.
    The question of Nigerian schoolgirls came up
    … and where has the BBC been for … 4 WEEKS!
    well …. no answer, no beebot, and on to next item?
    thank you… and goodnight?

    … yep! … thanks for that

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  41. John Anderson says:

    Radio 4 is now headlining that Michelle Obama will be giving the weekly Presidential slot – she will be talking about the Nigerian schoolgirls.

    Somehow the BBC is not telling us that the Obama administration has resisted for year after year to cite Boko Haram as a Terrorist organisation.

    What the hell is it then – some sort of NALGO ? A regional social club ?

    And the BBC seems to be very quiet on the chickens coming home to roost on the Benghazi disaster, with the House of Representatives now setting up a Select Committee under Trey Gowdy to probe the whole affair with much stronger subpoena powers to force Obama etc to reveal what really happened. The only thing I have heard recently about US politics on Radio 4 was something like “Will the Republican Party ever recover” – totally biased twaddle, lets have a pop at the Tea Party.

    In many ways UKIP is a bit like the Tea Party – “We want our freedoms back, we are sick of the metro political elite including its media clingers”. And the BBC’s treatment of both is very similar. The only difference is that Sarah Palin is a bit more of a hottie than Nigel Farage. And fitter in more ways than one ?

       10 likes

  42. Llareggub says:

    I see TUSC gets a mention by the BBC. Unholy alliance of trade union leaders and the SWP. Hopefully if they want to participate in a democratic election the unions might stop providing buses for SWP thugs to disrupt meetings held by other political parties. Is that too much for the BBC to cover?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27339418

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  43. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC News Channel takes us by the hand and leads us for just a moment or two through the looking glass and into the parallel world that is Eurovision.

    Keep your W1A, surely this is the real satire at the BBC’s expense and satire of the very highest order.

    We meet a… how shall I describe this chap… somewhat “camp” (?) anyway the obvious not ‘normal’ thing about him is that he has a PhD in Eurovision.

    Who better to tell us that despite Sweden losing their national broadcaster (boo-hoo) (is that a fact? or was some other Euro nation?) they have still done rather well.

    Lots of countries have complained about some girl with a beard – who cares?

    The Russians are doing it on a see saw. Whatever next? Crimean voters, according to Eurovision, still come under the Ukrainian jurisdiction so will vote for Russia. Wait a minute, I thought this wasn’t all about politics?

    The payroll sofa Bods tell us that Graham Norton is really really good at gently extracting the mick (careful : racial epithet)

    “Our” (bias creeping in) song has a bit of a chance – wouldn’t want anyone put off watching.

    And now we come to the meat in the sandwich of this item – the bread being the puff, the teaser, the trailer, the advert – if you will – to encourage us to watch.

    But first, let me explain how ‘we’ always qualify for the final : we ‘pay’ for it. This wasn’t spelt out this morning by the BBC. I say again : We pay for it. Not even Machester City are allowed to do that.

    I promised there would be meat to this item on the BBC News – there’s always an agenda on the BBC who don’t have agendas…. ‘We’ the British shouldn’t always expect to win. That’s ‘arrogant’ kiddies.

    Europeans don’t ‘hate the UK’. Oh no. The reason we don’t do very well these days is that since a rule change everyone else is allowed to sing in English. Plus our songs are really not very good.

    Was that a back-handed complement from the BBC to the English?

    But how can that be – we are arrogant.

    I know BBC presenters maintain that we are only English by default.

    Are they now saying that there is something un-English about the English language that makes it good?

    BBC: Taking the English out of England and giving it back to Europe – or something like that.

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  44. Thoughtful says:

    An unbelievable piece on radio 4 where the left wing New Statesman hack Helen Lewis is allowed to front a program talking about the Tory appeal to BME voters.

    The amazing comment that ‘when the last wave of migrants arrived here in the 1960s and worked hard, settled down and integrated ! Integrated ??? So if that’s true why is there a need for multiculturalism to be invented?

    This is supposed to be the week in Westminster and not an excuse to discuss left wing policies and dewy eyed dreams of revisionism and lies !

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  45. noggin says:

    “The Party Political Broadcast goes out tonight in Wales on ITV at 10.35 and BBC 2 Wales at 11.05, BBC 1 Wales 10.35
    After rounding up the minority parties will they come for Nigel? I suggest he treads very carefully during the next couple of weeks. ”

    I actually checked out the BBC bias on that one.
    impossible to get to check the party political broadcast
    it shows its time frame, but …. impossible to watch
    free and fair election broadcasts? … not on the BBC
    ps.
    slight apology this is now on iplayer? …
    but banned, so no one could watch at the time

    BBC balance? ……… anyway, here it is,

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b043x4nt/Party_Election_Broadcasts_for_the_European_Parliament_2014_The_Britain_First_Party_08_05_2014/

    whatever your opinion on … Britain First,
    shoot the messenger? … (problematic? – unsavoury?-
    racist?).

    however … what of the quotes? –
    the facts relayed in the broadcast?-
    the proposed demographics?
    as easy to dismiss?

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