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I think with the success of UKIP we will see a rise of Hard Left street violence. I suspect the BBC will latch on to it and use it to intimidate UKIP and their supporters.
Let’s remind the BBC how well Respect did last night then.
Tim Farron(no, me neither) was blathering away to Dimblebys Counselling hotline for the fey bewildered last night…his was the yellow hotline.
He did say that he had been “hoping for something more than nothing” by way of electoral seats in the election after all these years!
Oh the ambition!
Soon after they got their one and only seat…the fightback begins!…look out Pladi Cymru!
Maybe more of us should “hope now for something more than nothing”…Bill Gates would say the same I`m sure.
Still the Fib Dummies should be happy-they want to be ruled from Brussels without any need to do anything .
Mission accomplished…come on Timbo!
Sadly, Tim Farron may retain his South Lakeland seat in 2015. He is a very popular local MP and has been relentlessly fearmongering amongst the many small businesses in South Lakeland, that rely on tourism, that pulling out of the EU would be disastrous for tourism and their businesses.
He is one of the few LibDems that will probably be returned to the Commons in 2015, even if the LibDems only get about 8% of the national vote.
I really hope that the tories do better than expected, and UKIP take loads of labour votes and can become the balance of power in 2015, and then ensure that we get an honest referendum choice between a Federal United States of Europe or out.
The tory bait and switch con is not fooling me.
Last night a BBC reporter was saying that he ‘couldn’t’ describe the handling of the vote count at Tower Hamlets as a ‘shambles’.
One wonders why he felt so restrained in this regard?
http://www.lgcplus.com/election-shambles-criticised-by-tower-hamlets-opposition/1459575.article
ELECTION ‘SHAMBLES’ CRITICISED BY TOWER HAMLETS OPPOSITION
11 June, 1998
Tower Hamlets LBC officers have been lambasted for running the May 7 local election in a ‘shambolic’ manner, reports the East London Advertiser
http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.co.uk/2010_10_01_diamondgeezer_archive.html
October 19, 2010
And so far, the electoral process has been an absolute complete bloody shambles. I fear it can only get worse.
http://www.borisbacker.com/2012/04/27/electoral-commissions-tower-hamlets-shambles/
April 27 2012
Electoral Commission’s Tower Hamlets shambles
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1965732&page=39
Tower Hamlets is a ******* shambles! akin to Kabul at election time.
Tower Hamlets is holding London up. There are so many ‘votes’ there!
Tower Hamlets… what a sad social failure – democracy still an experimental idea there..
I expect it is something concerning the 120% voter turnout!
bBC News interviews Miliband. He says it is a vote about the running of the country. The interviewer does not remind Miliband that the vote was about the EU.
I wont say wether my vote for UKIP is a protest. If they think were only protesting they will not change anything. They will simply carry on as usual thinking that it will all come back to normal next year.
They should be made to stew for the next 12 months. Besides, a lot can happen to make things change either way.
If they keep thinking that it’s just a kick up the back side and carry on regardless I hope they realy live to regret it.
Actually I think they will do something. It only takes a small percentage change in some swing constituencies to alter the result. What they will do is try either to make promises they have no intention of keeping (e.g. Lisbon Treaty referendum) or calculate the barest minimum they have to move to call the bluff of their core vote. I think we will get something, however for me it will not be enough.
The BBC might change their tack to supporting UKIP if it were to mean keeping the non-Socialist vote split.
Back in 2011 when UKIP were at about 5-7% in the polls, the BBC’s coverage of UKIP was rather favourable. They wanted UKIP to split the tory vote.
As soon as UKIP were up to about 20% and seriously challenging labour in their heartlands, the BBC then considered UKIP to be the devil incarnate.
Clear BBC bias right there.
Beeboids still in denial about this as they use our licence fees to support mass immigration and a federalising E.U to the end:-
“Ukip supporters I met weren’t racist – they felt disenfranchised and frustrated.
“Until the main political parties respect the economic concerns of Ukip supporters the party will continue to do well with voters.”
By Rupert Myers.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/26/ukip-supporters-not-racist-disenfranchised-frustrated?
I think this deserves to go here…
He looks like a sad scrotum
Salmond on TV last night complaining that SNP analysis showed UKIP got four times the media coverage in Scotland than they did. What he forgot to add, of course, was that the coverage for UKIP was universally anti but why let facts get in the way of a good soundbite?
This is worth a look. Scroll down within the link to see who gets what!
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/aboutparliament/en/00264f77f5/Grants-to-political-parties-and-foundations.html
Never call it a protest vote. My vote for UKIP is a signal that if the other parties are going to take us for granted in the General Election, they have another thing comming.
Start to change or loose even more next year.
For so long as the EU commission can impose laws upon us, which our sovereign elected parliament cannot repeal, then I shall continue to vote UKIP.
We cannot vote out the EU commission. Democracy means being able to vote out those who make bad laws. It is as simple as that. I will keep voting UKIP until we get our democracy fully restored.
Why is the BBC so concerned with Labour? How does Labour improve? how does Labour capitalize on these results? a good night for Labour etc.
BBC = Labour Party propaganda mouthpiece.
I see that almost four days later Tower Hamlets has still not completed the counts. That must be down to organisational skills of that highly educated London metropolitan, cosmopolitan neapolitan whatever the BBC have told us understand democracy and stuff better than us yokels in the provinces voting UKIP.
Tower Hamlets have not finished voting yet. give em a few days and a turnout of 125% then they might be ready.
Apparently the photocopier’s run out of ink and Dixons are closed for the Bank Holiday.
The results were lost last Wednesday.
Very encouraging results, all over Europe in fact. But now all the recent victorious UKIP councillors and MEPs will no doubt face a barrage of dirty tricks from lefty rentamobs, UAF and their ilk. All backed to the hilt by the mainstream media, and of course the communist BBC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27575510
Key point is “It should also be pointed out that abstentions helped inflate the size of the FN victory.”
So according to all the non-voters were anti FN. Hmmmm
I noted during the BBC EU Election coverage that someone mentioned the similar names on ballet paper :
UK Independence Party
An Independence From Europe Party
I thought that such similar party names is so likely to cause a lot of confusion and possibly cause a travesty of democracy and apparently so did Nige:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27128417
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/26/EXCLUSIVE-Electoral-Commission-Claimed-UKIP-Spoiler-Party-Name-Was-Sufficiently-Different
Unfortunately if caught my partner out and therefore complaint gone in:
Dear Electoral Commission,
Re: EU ELECTION 22 MAY 2014 – CONFUSING BALLET PAPER (SIMILAR NAMES)
I was most alarmed to discover on my EU ballot paper that there was a very confusing, similar party name, to the one I wished to vote for listed, which I nearly inadvertently voted for.
The similar party names were:
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
An Independence from Europe Party (UK Independence now).
I personally saw through this confusion and I did vote for the party of my desire. However my partner has let me know she was subject to the same obvious similarity which resulted in her inadvertently voting for the wrong party.
Could you please explain to me why you allowed this so similar name, to an established party, appear on the ballot paper?
I do believe this obvious similarity could result in the distortion of the electorate intended vote.
This would be such a travesty for our proud and ancient democracy that I spent 25 years military service defending and is, in my view, a serious dereliction of Electoral oversight.
So much so, I wish to raise this with my Member of Parliament and would therefore please request you inform me of the full facts of how this similarity was allowed, particularly who made the decision.
I am willing to deal with this matter by email.
Yours sincerely,
We’d had a Literal Democrat candidate in a Euro election some years ago IIRC.
That was why the electoral commission was created, specifically to prevent such wilfull dirty tricks.
It turns out that votes for the “an independence from Europe” party took enough votes to cost UKIP their fifth seat in the South East region and handed that seat to the Liberal Democrats.
You know it works – proof: we got rid of Andy’s cqc scam: If you feel they were wrong just do it folks.
PEFInbox@electoralcommission.org.uk
Guardian comments are interesting.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/26/ukip-supporters-not-racist-disenfranchised-frustrated?commentpage=1
I think Racist is the word of the day as per usual.
As one contributor to the Telegraph letters page succinctly put it: ‘What businessman would buy a company whose auditors have not signed off their accounts for 18 years?’
BBC News 24 have gone to Clegg’s Sheffield to do some “random” street interviews. Despite TOPPING the polls there, there were no interviewees that supported UKIP. One that hadn’t voted and one even that found it “scarry”.
I think it is silly for Nigel Farage to call for the abolition of the Electoral Commission. We need such a body – but it needs to be strong, effective, and unbiased.
It is the decisions of the Commission that need attack – I think there should be an ex post facto lega;l case because the “fraudulent” name that appeared at the top of the ballot paper should have been rejected by the Commission because it was obviously designed to mislead potential UKIP voters. An obscure “name” attracted 1.5% of the national vote and lost 2 MEP seats for UKIP.
Also, the Commission’s performance on issues like stricter postal voting and intimidation outside polling stations has been pathetic.
Could this be a reason :
“Jenny Watson (born 25 Jan 1964) is the chairperson of the United Kingdom Electoral Commission. A long term campaigner for women’s rights, she had a 20+ year career in the not for profit sector. She started out at Liberty,[2] and then political campaigners Charter88, before moving to Victim Support. She is a former Chair of the Fawcett Society, a not-for-profit organisation campaigning for equality between women and men.
Watson was the last chair of the Equal Opportunities Commission before the creation of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights, having been first appointed as a commissioner in 1999, and deputy chair from 2000. She was deputy chairman of the Banking Code Standards Board, and of the Committee on Radioactive Waste Management.
[…]
Watson was appointed the second chair of the Electoral Commission in January 2009.[2] She is paid £100,000 for a role which requires her to work three days a week.]”
A comment at Breitbart : “Reads like the typical CV of a tax-guzzling Labour crony who has never done an honest day’s work in her life yet manages to cram improbable sums of public money into her trouser suits.
I believe this decision was a deliberate attempt to harm UKIP by a body that is meant to ensure the democratic integrity of our elections.
Jenny the amazing tax-fatted woman should be facing a judicial inquiry and then sacked.”
BBC bias in local news has reached bizarre heights with the UKIP victory. Look North started with a rather down beat report about the Libdem MEP who defected from the Tories after the last election, who lost his seat and was very bitter about the UKIP “Luddites“. Apart from two elderly people, one with poor memory, and another who said he would not like UKIP to be voted into power, most of the BBC coverage was opinion from within the BBC bubble, which started with a rather patronising posh moron telling me that the reason why I had voted UKIP, was because I fear foreigners. No appearance or mention of Libertarian Mensa members overwhelmingly voting UKIP. So I assumed that the reason that the BBC did not show any of the elected UKIP MEP,s was because that would have damaged the BBC,s narrative, what with Jane Collins being a woman and Amjad Bashir being an Asian, but then they did appear on ITV, they even had an intellectual on ITV who admitted that UKIP was a Libertarian party.
Anyway, BBC, we have got our revenge, Libertarian Mensa members now know that it will be announced in the Autumn, that the Licence Fee is to be abolished.
This boasting Richard Pinder doppelganger could be a BBC Journalist with better qualifications in English than the real Richard Pinder.
The trouble now is, if you take at face value the voting movements across all parties, just who is going to stop the Labour Party getting in by default at the General Election next year? Will UKIP even have an election manifesto in place and a credible *front bench* to sell to the electorate?
The liberals are dead ducks (always were), the Conservative aren’t conservative enough and Labour…well all they have to do is keep their noses clean and there in. God forbid.
That should read: …they are in.
UKIP will unveil their 2015 election manifesto at their Autumn Conference this year.
UKIP’s economic policies are being independently vetted and “peer reviewed” by expert economists and make of that what you will. I know if you put 10 economists in a room, you will get 11 opinions, but at least it will allow UKIP to claim that they have had their sums checked and that they add up.
Labour have no room to talk on economics after they achieved a 165 Billion pound black hole in their finances in 2009 alone.
Tonight’s BBC Points West was unbelievably biased against UKIP, it lead with the Lid Dems ‘disasterous’ showing with the Tory’s poor showing but Labour and the Greens had ’cause to celebrate’ the report took at least 2 minutes to mention UKIP, with the briefest interview with William Dartmouth. Natalie Bennett was afforded a much longer interview with her one MEP. Disgusting…
Judge for yourselves.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04404nm/bbc-points-west-26052014
Wow, I don’t know if this has been posted yet but I have never, ever seen such a load of patronising and frankly racist gurb in my life.
If you’re “poor”, “uneducated” or “read a broadsheet” then you’re basically thick and anti-europe.
This is unbelievable…….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27578141
Yes, this is a must see!
So, a lot of hard working, patriotic British people without a useless ‘ology’ degree are ‘thick’ and ‘anti Europe ‘? Where are the Trustees of the BBC on its impartially? Where is the Government?
Watch the media – all of them – they are all whistling in the dark.
Oops, sorry, the last quote should be “read a tabloid”.
I’m so incensed I mis-typed it!!.
Remember the Farage/Clegg debates? The ones many media pundits called for Clegg even though the majority of listeners called it for Farage? How the EU was fully debated and how well Farage resonated with the public? Remember the balanced studio audiences supporting both sides? Remember the British Indian woman after the first debate who was rethinking her views as she realised UKIP would put Indian immigrants on a level playing field with Europe? How long ago it seems.
Then what happened…
With the BBC prominent we had saturation coverage and discussion on how racist/sexist/homophobic etc UKIP was. And absolutely NO debate about EU issues. Nothing about the CAP, EU funding, the Euro, accession countries, trade discussions, Financial Transaction Tax, fisheries policy, science policy, EU foreign policy, treaty changes etc. Even though the elections were for the European Parliament it was reduced to a shouting match with UKIP’s opponents shouting ‘racist’.
Then after the election where 2/3rds didn’t vote the pundits talk about ‘earthquakes’ as parties get 20-30% of 30-40% turnout, and few people really understand what the European Parliament does.
One thing remains the same though every time the public votes. After election day we have the same monopolistic tax funded state broadcaster to steer the debate as it gets it ‘about right’ again and again. I wonder how QT and AQ will go this week?
Unfortunately Flexdream, the result of the European Elections concerning the success of UKIP, is manna from Heaven for the Labour Party and the BBC. All the BBC has to do now for 12 months is not to report on anything the Labour Party does or says and continue with the constant drip drip of miss-information and attacks at the other parties. Job done and the Socialists get the power once more. Thus the BBC will get it “about right” for the Labour Party.
As I’d pointed out, all the BBC needs is to maintain the split in the non-Socialist vote to ensure a Miliband majority – on a 30-32% share of the vote.
Labour’s iron grip on their metropolitan and urban bedrock shows little sign of loosening, so that’s 220-240 seats in the bag for them there. UKIP may poll many votes there, but not enough to turn it into seats.
The most serious case is the 80-100 marginal seats where Labour are second to the Conservatives. It is there where UKIP could split the non-Socialist vote in such a way to get a results like Lab 12,000 – Con 11,000 – UKIP 9,000 – LD 4,000.
In other words, 20,000 votes would be cast for ‘right’ parties and 16,000 for ‘left’ parties, but with a ‘left’ MP being returned.
For whatever it is worth I saw someone described vaguely as an ex Labour adviser who called the next election for the Conservatives. They are four years into their term of office, and are hardly at their most popular. The opposition should be doing very well at this stage. In the event Labour only just scraped into second place when they should have romped home ahead of the Conservatives. The adviser’s reckoning is that the proportion of UKIP voters who defect back to their old party allegiances for the general election will benefit the Conservatives more than Labour. The Conservatives are also being assisted by some signs of the economy perking up.
Someone during the election coverage made the observation that as a general election draws closer, incumbent governments often recover some of the ground they have lost to the opposition (perhaps due to the same sort of last minute panic from Conservative supporters that did for Kinnock in the 92 election). Also, I know it isn’t really a scientific factor, but Ed Milliband is such a phenomenal dick it is hard to see him navigating through the next eleven months without crashing into the furniture so often it will be a gift to a teflon android like Cameron. Clegg will probably be spending so much time in psychiatric counselling he won’t really be in any position to create a downside for the Conservatives, while the Lib Dems will likely continue to act as flypaper for all of the grievances the electorate have. Clegg will also be spending a lot of time looking over his shoulder after hearing the scraping sounds of long knives being drawn behind him. Paddy Ashdown’s astonishingly surreal, gushing endorsement of Clegg (post election train crash) suggests to me that his days are severely numbered.
Funny how this story never made it into the news:
Five Middlesbrough councillors resign from Labour Party and will stand as independents
Councillors Len Junier (who represents North Ormesby and Brambles Farm ward), Pervaz Khan (Middlehaven), Sajaad Khan (Gresham), Derek Loughborough (North Ormesby and Brambles Farm) and John McPartland (Middlehaven) have said their positions are no longer “tenable” following an interview and selection process for the Labour Party.
Cllr Pervaz Khan said he felt “ashamed” for belonging to Middlesbrough Labour Group which “is treating some of my Asian family and friends in a manner which they perceive to be racist and, incidentally, so do I”
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/five-middlesbrough-councillors-resign-labour-7080454
Following on from this the Spectator ran an article ‘Is Labour Racist?’
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/05/is-labour-a-racist-party/
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/five-middlesbrough-councillors-resign-labour-7080454
How odd it is that it never made the MSM.
Yet a UKIP youth member resigns over party direction and it’s headline news !
Cameron in full panic mode has telephoned other EU leaders, and Blair in full oppression mode has spoken on the media of how the Fascists can counter the wishes of the people and ‘show how these anti EU groups have no answers’.
It’s code for how those on the left can look to ignore the will of the people and marginalise the elected anti EU parties across Europe.
The man sends a chill up my spine whenever I hear his voice. His natural innate desire to remove peoples freedom, and oppress always is at the forefront.
Having said that – the people spoke and removed him from power, why on earth is anyone allowing him airtime?
I admit I haven’t been keeping up to speed on how the BBC’s reporting the elections, but I do note that apparently there was success for the ‘Far Right’ in France and the ‘Radical Left’ in Greece. See? No bias at all.
Is the final counting at Tower Hamlets finished yet ?
The last I heard was that things were being delayed because another box of postal ballots had just arrived at Heathrow. But there were worries about bringing it through because of intimidatory crowds outside the count. This final – really final ? box could bring total turnout to 142%.
The BBC are, typically, pulling out the anti_Ukip and pro-EU armour giving a platform to lying, slimy little anti_english like that criminal liar Blair. But, he was New Labour and so are the BBC. Expect more of the same subtle indoctrination over the next few weeks aimed at making the sheeple aware of how nasty, racist and harmful to the UK Ukip are. Pathetic!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27585260
Happily, it appears the more they try this, the more people who are sick of being a convenience for the established parties and status quo media like the BBC, veer towards UKIP. It was evident from watching the election post-mortem from the standpoint of the establishment, they don’t (with the odd exception), have any coherent explanation for what has happened. Instead they continue to regurgitate the “we failed to get our message across” line by way of an excuse. Actually, I think they got their message across loud and clear. If any of the establishment had been paying attention, they would have seen how their message was both understood and rejected by a growing segment of the electorate.
Predictably, each of the main parties have been doing the sleight-of-hand trick now of trying to distract the audience from where the deception is happening, to some pretty, glittery things away from the action. Cameron is trying to make it appear that somehow the EU is up for reform when all that will happen is that EU grandees will make soothing noises for a while and then renege on any undertakings they have given to “look at” reform. Clegg and the Lib Dems have their collective head wedged firmly into a bucket of sand, and are still congratulating themselves about “making the case for Europe” while a growing proportion of electorates across Europe are make the case for the opposite. As for Labour……what is there left that anyone can say about the party of denial? They should have romped home ahead of the Conservatives, and instead they barely scraped past them on the final straight in the run-up to the line. If I were a Conservative supporter I’d take a lot of comfort from how close a race they gave Labour. Labour’s biggest handicap is Ed Milliband. I’m old enough to remember an American TV show called “Mister Ed”. It was based on the premise of a talking horse who, perhaps not surprisingly, would introduce himself at the beginning of each show by saying “Hello…..I’m Mister Ed”. There is something of Mister Ed about Milliband, though I do think the horse would have made by far the better politician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GAbc5uQXJo (for anyone vaguely interested)
Whenever I listen to Ed Milliband I just want to clamp my hands over my ears. How far have we fallen as a nation when there is even the vaguest possibility of a complete knob like Milliband being elected as Prime Minister? Ed’s answer to the message the electorate has sent is we need to boost the economy…..oh and by the way – still no referendum. Ed Knows better than you where his meal ticket is.
All nigel has to say is when I’m PM the following day our borders will close,the money to the EU will be stopped,the BBC will be subscription.All Health and safety rules will be torn up,so will HCHR.
Just think how refreshing that we be free to life our lives at last.
All nigel has to say is when I’m PM the following day our borders will close,the money to the EU will be stopped,the BBC will be subscription.All Health and safety rules will be torn up,so will HCHR.
Just think how refreshing that we be free to live our lives at last
These past few days have seen my thoughts shifting from supreme happiness to haunting visions with regards to Mr Farage’s personal safety. The irrational part of my brain dwells on a certain oil rich country with the initials SA who right now may well be organising a “terrorist” hit on Mr Farage.
I see his SB bodyguards who just so happen to be buying a donut at the time that this other Pym Fortuyn, this demi King Arthur is lost to Western Civilisation.
Some bloke with a Cake Doilie on his head and Blair saying “see,don’t provoke um”
Oh God I hope not
Geert Wilders has round the clock security, Theo van Gogh killed, Jorg Haider car crash, how convenient !!
E.U:-
BBC-NUJ-“Leaders agree to review EU agenda at Brussels summit”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27599171
As with E.U’s unelected bureaucrats, BBC-NUJ will continue in political denial mode and propagandise for:-
1.) more mass immigration from Islamic countries so as to speed up the conversion of Europe into Eurabia;
2.) more federalising powers for E.U bureaucrats, so as to end national sovereignty;
3.) more campaigning for 80 million Muslim Turks to get entry to E.U.
I was slightly curious about the Tower Hamlet council results. All I heard was that “Labour no longer retain overall controll”. My curiosity overcame my lack of computer skills. Turns out the second largest party is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_Hamlets_First
Funny I didn’t hear anything about this on TV still after a hard day of moving boxes all I want to do is sit down with a mild and bitter a copy of the Sun & watch Eastenders all this politics stuff makes my brane hurt.