Here you go, an really early Open Thread for your use!!! Try to restrict your European election analysis to THAT thread and let’s keep this for other issues. I am out of the UK on business for a few days, back mid week!
MONDAY OPEN THREAD…
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Sigh…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-27565815
This sort of thing really fucking angers me. A guy who was clearly mentally ill goes on a rampage and kills six people, wounding several others, and targeted both men and women killing some of each. Instead of having sympathy for the families of the victims and discussing how this sort of thing can be better prevented in future, the BBC and other PC institutions have had the gall to try and turn this into yet another gender issue, because the guy (who, again, was clearly crazy since he went on to kill half a dozen people) had previously written some sexist remarks online.
The very first tweet they feature completely sums up how intellectually lazy and prejudiced this way of thinking is. It starts with “I can’t believe that there are people who think murdering women is justified.” So what she’s basically saying, by making the point of saying ‘women’ instead of ‘people’, is that it is ONLY unjustifiable to murder someone if they’re female. Same goes for all these idiots who campaign to “end violence against women” but clearly don’t give a fuck if the victim is a man, or for that matter if the perpetrator is a woman. Of course, these same tosspots also delude themselves into thinking this is only 1% of all violent attacks, when the actual crime figures (you know, the things with evidence instead of failed ideology behind them) show that about a third of all domestic violence victims are male. Same goes for rape victims, too. This doesn’t meet the agenda that the BBC and other sexist ‘progressive’ institutions want to promote, so they ignore it while claiming it’s everyone else being sexist.
Even by liberal bigot standards, the attempt to turn a tragic mass murder into another diatribe against the ‘Caucasian sausage fest’ they loathe so much is absolutely shameful and everyone involved in doing so should be forced to justify themselves. It’s sickening.
F*** the Beeb,
“Sigh… This sort of thing really fucking angers me.”
Well done Mr F*** for your total fucking angry total misunderstanding. The tweet you so elegantly pour all your fucking angry frustrated bile upon is not about Elliot Rodger – it’s about the post she highlights; “…I applaud what this guy did and encourage more young men to take womens lives… More women have to die.”
Perhaps if you weren’t so fucking angry Mr F*** you wouldn’t jump to the first intellectually lazy and prejudiced conclusion that popped into your fucking angry head.
Shut up, Dez.
Always nice to see Biased BBC’s regulars show their true colours. Rude, arrogant and unwilling to engage with someone making a reasonable point.
And your post reminds me of when you posted exactly the same thing yesterday. I guess you haven’t got anything better to offer than insults lobbed out from behind your fake name? How very big of you.
Whenever Dez posts a comment you can be sure Scott will always bring up the rear.
‘Rude, arrogant and unwilling to engage with someone making a reasonable point.’
Scott – I’m, sure you have a rich and rewarding life, and your time is precious, so why come here and spread hate? Who benefits? We don’t, and I don’t think you do…
Do you think anything seriously thinks, ‘Gosh – I thought the BBC had a left wing bias until Scott told me otherwise in a really condescending manner, but now I see the light?’. I think you are more likely to entrench people’s attitudes with your inflammatory manner.
Jeff
why come here and spread hate?
Yes, it’s me who spreads the hate. Not people like F**k the Beeb and Pounce, who call people cunts if they disagree with them. Not all the posts and comments decrying all Muslims as if they’re all extremists and terrorists. Not the misogynists who talk about women in tones that suggest they’ve never actually meaningfully engaged with women in their lives. Not the homophobes who say they don’t care about what gay people get up to, then spend pages and pages going into details about how much they think about it.
If you think I’m spreading hate, you must not read Biased BBC very closely, if at all. This site is full of hate. But as long as it’s aimed at what Biased BBC commenters deem acceptable targets, it’s given carte blanche to fester and grow.
But hey. You go ignoring all the hate mongers in residence on this site, and have a go at me instead. Biased BBC is full of hypocrites, so I’m sure one more won’t make a blind bit of difference.
I`ve given Scott this “Like”.
Because-like the LibDems…we need his presence on the cultural landscape…don`t ask me why…we just do…like we need the Lib Dummies.
No…don`t mention it Scott, least I could do for you this difficult day.
Scott provides a valuable service by posting on this site. He reminds us of how condescending, hateful and bigoted the left wing chattering classes are. As for his apparent unyielding defence of Islam, I hope to hear that shortly he will be visiting those wonderful Muslim Utopias Saudi Arabia and Iran where he will experience at first hand the tolerance of the gay lifestyle by the devotees of Mohammed.
Just for you, Scott:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/10853279/Sinister-groupthink-powers-the-modern-world.html
A good lesson in putting together a convincing argument, which you could try and practice on here. And if you can spot that the article is really about the likes of your good self who are incapable of putting together a convincing argument in the face of anything that contradicts their world view, and who instead simply stamp their feet and scream their clapped-out mantras and ad hominems even louder, then treat yourself to an ice cream.
Scott – Too wrongs don’t make a right.
If I were you, I’d just walk away. I hate to say it, but no-one benefits from your presence here (although if you want to make reasoned points, phrased constructively, I’m sure no-one will have a problem with that). 🙂
Jeff
So it’s okay for Biased BBC regulars to be abusive. Jeff won’t pull his passive-aggressive “get out for your own good” claptrap on them.
No. If you’re on Biased BBC’s perceived side, you can be as vile and abusive as you like. Nastily little men like F*** the Beeb and Pounce can use the most severe form of language against me, and yet none of you say anything.
Jeff, you’re a hypocrite. You want to set yourself up as a self-appointed judge of who’s appropriate to be on this site, fine. Just be aware that everyone can see just how hypocritical you’re being. And while there’s a sizeable number of people on this site who don’t care that you’re a hypocrite, I’m certainly not going to be bullied by someone who really doesn’t deserve the authority he seeks to award himself.
Scott wrote:
“Yes, it’s me who spreads the hate. Not people like F**k the Beeb and Pounce, who call people cunts if they disagree with them.
Scott, I really must apologise for calling you a ‘Cunt’ it was really ,really uncouth of me and I am really sorry over the anguish, sleepless nights and PTSD this has caused you.
I should have used the politically correct term ‘Female sex organ’ in which to describe you.
Pounce – There is no need for that.
Let’s all accept each other’s differences of opinion.
Pass the tissues fella
‘I’m certainly not going to be bullied by someone who really doesn’t deserve the authority he seeks to award himself. ‘
What the ???
Scott, you’ve got me all wrong. I’m not bullying anyone, and I find that accusation hurtful.
I’m merely saying that this forum would be better for you and the people you’re locked in a playground battle with if you left. And I’ve criticized them too, so there’s no contradiction or hypocrisy.
Peace and love. 🙂
Jeff
I would like to thank Scott for his distinctive avatar. It makes his posts instantly identifiable, so I don’t need to waste time reading them
Oh please , across Europe the people have voted in which to say No to the crap the left have hit us with for the past 20 years. Just listen to the crap the Libs, Labour and the EU (Martin Schulz ) have come out with in which to express their disgust at how the people have said enough is enough at the PC strait jacket used by the above in which to try and enforce their PC life style on use all.
Scott is one such example, a fucking troll who while happy to dish out abuse, can’t take it. (Just look at how often he attacks DV, Alan)
You want to defend him him from the likes of em, fine. But as long as he spews his shite on this board, he’s going to have to face up to me. He can thank his lucky stars I’m not a fruit loop who takes things to heart and who would hunt him down. All he has to do is be nice, he can’t and if he wants to play the victimcard like a fucking liberal democrat, don’t get upset if I don’t believe the twat.
Scott take your medication & have a nice snooze in a darkened room.
Whatever one’s political orientation, it is always better to speak quietly and argue forensically on the basis of the facts. It seems to me that many people on this site fail to understand that.
You been liking your own posts again Dezzie? You shouldn’t it just shows you up for the attention seeking none-entity you are.
Funny how Dez and Scott often pop up together.
Nice popping, lads.
Now pop off back to the night shift at Beeb Towers.
Funny how johnnythefish so often pops up to offer nothing of worth. Do pop off back to the Biased BBC Home for Pseudonymous Conspiracy Theorists Who Don’t Realise They’re Behaving Like Idiots, there’s a love.
PLENTY of posts in fact, Scott, that you’ve a 100% record on choosing to avoid. A bit skewed towards the BBC’s self-confessed bias on man-made global warming, I have to admit (but that’s a topic close to my heart and one I know you’d find a bit tricky, so you’re excused), but many also on the lack of balance in other areas of the BBC’s coverage, from political interviews through fracking to women’s football.
I’ll keep a tally in future, just for you.
But I’ll concede you’re the best in the world at sweeping statements and ad hominems.
Keep ’em coming, you’re such an asset to this site.
Scott – Read that when you’ve calmed down and ask yourself if it was a good use of your time. 🙂
You can blame Harriot the deputy Pm. She’s only there to fight a gender war. It’s been said many times before but I’ll say it again, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN BE DEMONIZED WITH OUT IMPUNITY ARE WHITE HETEROSEXUAL MEN.
Also facts are that young males are subject to more violence than any other group.
Here we go again: the BBC hyping a campaign by tiny bunch of feminazi witches. There is literally no news value to this report: H8ers gonna H8, but only certain ones get the BBC to devote a whole article to their nutty cause.
Then there’s the wider issue. The BBC is normally ‘root causes’ central. Even Boko Harem are apparently driven to it by Gerbil Worming, but men being skeptical about Glorious Feminist Revolution? Scum, just scum. Nothing they say can have any value whatsoever. Not worth thinking about.
What annoys me about this issue is how the media turns every incident of a young man, who is inevitably on, or just coming off, mind brain chemical altering drugs such as SSRIs going crazy and killing people, into a gun law issue.
They never mention the mind altering drugs. How such shooting sprees were unheard of in America before these mind brain chemical altering drugs became widely used?
Yes the gun laws should be changed, but only to prevent anyone who is prescribed any form of brain altering drug, from having access to guns.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/25/jeremy-clarkson-new-bbc-contract-_n_5387867.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
Jeremy Clarkson is set to sign a new £12m contract – just weeks after footage emerged of him using the n-word.
The ‘Top Gear’ presenter is set to complete negotiations on a three-year deal that will keep him at the BBC until 2018.
A source told the Sunday People: “There is no question of Jeremy’s deal not being renewed.
“It is being worked on right now. The top executives want him signed up as soon as possible.
Funny how easily the BBC can compromise it’s far left principles when they have a successful program they don’t want to lose.
Never mind the profits, the BBC couldn’t give a damn about a few million from a £5 billion budget, the point is that the BBC has very few popular programs, and even fewer which are popular with overseas viewers and Top Gear ticks all the boxes.
Two things occur to me about this. Firstly the BBC is not monolithic and it is the money men, the bean counters, who want Clarkson back. Simply because he makes them more money than anyone else. The lefty ‘talent’ still hate him wish him dead.
Secondly, I wonder if that clip was released ‘anonymously’ in order to help the negotiations?
Breibart headline: “Exit Poll: Strong showing by Germany’s new anti-euro party”.
I’m really starting to enjoy all this, I really am. Turning out to be a good bank holiday, rain or no rain.
Chickens coming home to roost.
“Exit polls show a surge in support for far right Eurosceptics in European Parliament election.”
Press agency (PA)
only some less biased media reported it thus:
BRUSSELS (AP) — Exit polls showed the far right and Euroskeptics making sweeping gains in European Parliament elections Sunday, signaling a major political shift toward parties that want to slash the European Union’s powers or abolish it altogether.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2638666/Far-right-Euroskeptics-make-big-gains-EU-vote.html#ixzz32lJz5NXs
If what I’m reading is true & FN have broken through in France with other groups making inroads in the EU elections I predict serious face time on the BBc Breakfast settee.
Just watching the live election coverage.
At about 22:14, Nick Robinson talked about the decline of the BNP, and Dimbleby paused a moment and then said, ‘Good’.
I don’t think many of us are fans of the BNP, but Dimbleby shouldn’t have said that.
Jeff
He obviously has his savings in some other French bank 😉
But you’re right, he shouldn’t have said it: he shouldn’t be expressing any opinions at all on the parties themselves; just the numbers and the facts.
He has broken the Charter rules concerning impartiality. He should be sacked as his position as a broadcaster with the BBC is now untenable.
Maybe somewhere on screen, in really small type, is ‘BBC on-air talent’s views are their own and nothing to do with the medium that hands them airspace’!
That, apparently, is all it takes to get a pass.
If the case is seen as a bit of a credibility issue, he can be moved off sideways to do a bit of Royal reporting for a while, before being quietly brought back with Jasmine to ‘handle’ the general election coverage.
Have a look at 1:14:45 here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04504hl/vote-2014-5-europe-part-1
I thought I might have misheard Dimbleby, but he definitely said ‘Good’ after Nick Robinson talked about the collapse of the BNP.
To be fair I think that’s more to do with Nick Robinson finishing he is piece. However the Dimbleby should be put out to pasture. I struggle to stay awake when he is on TV.
Hi Polly
Possibly – it could have been carelessness rather than conscious or unconscious bias – although if so it’s embarrassing for such an experienced political presenter.
With a ‘TBF’ hat on, benefits of doubt could be afforded here.
One for the transcript interpreters though, where tonality and separation time can be used… and abused… to great effect.
And it’s not like the BBC can claim innocence when they so choose.
On top of Ian Hislop’s over-frequent use of ‘…pause… allegedly’ on HIGNFY, there was Kirsty’s ‘..TWAT…pause…’ snigger moment.
Live by the semantic device, and you risk falling afoul too.
At about 22:14, Nick Robinson talked about the decline of the BNP, and Dimbleby paused a moment and then said, ‘Good’.
I don’t think many of us are fans of the BNP, but Dimbleby shouldn’t have said that.
I’ve just watch that moment, and it’s clear that he’s not saying “good” in response to Robinson. Rather, he’s getting some instruction through an earpiece and/or a monitor, and seems to have got confirmation that he can now throw to another part of the studio presentation.
I think some people are just so attuned to want bias from the BBC that they’ll twist even the slightest verbal tic to suit their own preconceptions.
Interesting you have never chosen to argue with the biased tweets of BBC reporters and editors which have been featured on here so many, many times….
Low hanging fruit are so much easier to reach…
So you could hear what Dimbleby heard in his earpiece? WOW! You must have good hearing.
Driving home listening to 5Live’s Euro Election results, notably they have twice cut off the UKIP winners speech just as they touch on the subject of immigration, notably Roger Helman’s.
Will it be black armbands in Salford tomorrow morning?
… and still … Westminster doesn t get it …
Time for a big clear out, just caught Liam Fox/W Hague
big mistake in their attitude, they must think they re talking to the police federation, not the electorate.
My gut feeling is Nicki Campbell won’t be so chirpy and supercilious this morning, after all Nigel Farage is Satan !!
Enfield & Whitehouse’s brilliant take on history of BBC 2 TV-
“Harry and Paul’s Story of the 2s”
( 1 hour)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b045cn0s/harry-and-pauls-story-of-the-twos
Gawd Bless `em!
And the recent Fast Show did a grand job too-Camilla Batmanghedghli got her muu muu stuffed (were that to be possible).
Tonights will surely be as good.
Thank God for Harry and Paul!…calm down!
As predicted 06:40 Louise is just going through the papers and interviewing the UKIP deputy with her serious face on. Complete with the questions you know she would ask. LOL ha ha ha.
The BBC don’t seem to be giving us any analysis over the apparent anti-Semitic shootings in Belgium. Perhaps they’ve something to fear…
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/478209/Ring-of-steel-after-4-killed-in-attack-on-Holocaust-museum
This, in my opinion, is more sinister than the random (albeit serious) actions of a narcissistic, spoiled brat loser in California because it has the makings of a campaign.
Not expecting to hear much more about it though.
Interesting that the British origin of the California shooter seems to be considered significant. He’s not just another “man”, apparently.
Just now on Facebook:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/58672/syria-s-bloodthirsty-brits-blamed-for-beheadings
Don’t know how accurate it is.
Maybe the world’s most highly resourced media news monopoly could investigate?
Maybe one of those ‘understand the motivations’ interviews they do so like?
And then, maybe, some of that always insightful analysis of how what goes on elsewhere can’t possibly, or just might have less than encouraging consequences back in the UK?
Or, maybe, they’ll not see this as news at all.
They covered it on Today this morning but only in the newspaper round-up. In this way they can say they’ve ‘covered it’ without having any kind of investigative report or discussion.
This was front-page of The Times yesterday (£) and I expected it to be covered by all reputable news organisations. But that doesn’t include the bBBC of course.
Another Blair/ Brown Labour legacy, thousands of ‘British’ terrorists.
I wonder how long it will be before Labour and Conservatives release their UAF thugs on UKIP now that the BNP don’t have any more MEPs left?
Rob, this is well under way. On the UAF Facebook page there have been calls to put Farage and all in a detention camp, and the leadership of the UAF have produced a list classifying the enemies to be combatted across Europe.
‘Uaf will be monitoring/posting the results of the main international, fascist and far right groups, below, in tonight’s Euro Elections,
FPO – Austria – Racist party
France – Front National – Fascist organisation
Greece – Golden Dawn – Nazi organisation
Hungary – Jobbik – Nazi organisation
The Netherlands – PW – Racist party headed by Geert Wilders
Sweden – Swedish Democrats -Nazi organisation
UK – BNP – Nazi organisation
Poland – National Movement – Nazi group linked to Jobbik, at tonight’s elections
Lega Nord – Italy – Far right; formed an “iron pact” with the French Front National
UKIP – Far right’
As a far right party UKIP are not entitled to a platform to air their views.
Ehhh, how fortunate we are that in our democratic society the UAF can pursue its hardline approach to silencing right-wing groups without any kind of sanction.
I’ve always wondered whether it is they who hiss and boo on Question Time and Any Questions whenever they hear an opinion they don’t like.
But the Nazis were left wing, how can ‘far right’ parties be dubbed thus?
UAF are idiots.
I voted for the BNP. Yeah, yeah, I know, far right blah, blah, blah (actually they’re far left). Racist, blah, blah, blah (no more racist than a political party that fills the country full of immigrants out of spite). I admit it. I did the unmentionable (although when you’re confronted with a ballot form with the liblabcon and them, it’s perfectly understandable). No choice … then go for the anti-establishment party …. and anything that makes Jack Straw choke on his cornflakes at breakfast is always a bonus.
Pope begins final day of Middle East visit
For the record:
the Pope described the Holocaust as “an enduring symbol of the depths to which human evil can sink”. However the Vatican’s role in it, and that of Catholic clergy in areas captured by the Germans, will be politely ignored.
the al-Aqsa Mosque compound, which is situated on a disputed holy site known to Muslims as the Haram al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) and Jews as the Temple Mount. To say the site is disputed is like saying there is a dispute between science and magic. The current Arab claim is that the Jews have no connection at all. The Jews are well aware that if it wasn’t for the Jewish connection there would have been no mosques built there.
Later, he will visit the Western Wall, one of the holiest sites in Judaism. It is part of the retaining wall of the Temple Mount dating back to a time when a Jewish temple stood there. No, BBC. It is indisputably the most holy site in Judaism. Saying a Jewish temple didn’t stand there implies there were others of equal importance. The only Jewish temple (it was rebuilt once on the same site) stood there.
How did Muhammads imagined cuckoo become any kind of claim on Israels holy city and capital since well before the birth of Jesus Christ?
Mo dreamt he flew to Jerusalem, then onto heaven…and that is it?
This Thursday is Ascension Day…I dream of flying to the Grand Canyon from the scorched ruins of Media City,Salford.
Gimme, gimme gimme…
Jerusalem is mentioned in Jewish holy scripture more than 700 times. In the Christian bibles it is mentioned 154 times. In the Qu’ran there isn’t a single reference to it.
Note where the Pope chose to pray on the Western Wall. On a graffiti site attacking Israel, and just by chance is a child standing nearby with a Palestinian flag.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/pope-chooses-to-pray-in-front-of-large-graffiti-comparing-bethlehem-to-the-warsaw-ghetto#
Some walls have greater significance than others.
For many but not all Catholics to criticise the Pope is sacrilege. However to err is human and the Pope never said his ‘spontaneous’ decision to stage a Palestinian propaganda photo-op was Divine Guidance.
What do I have to do to successfully upload a photograph?
The Western Wall is not the holiest site in Judaism, it’s the holiest site that Jews are allowed religious access to. The holiest site in Judaism is The Temple Mount, which is why Islam built a Mosque on top of it.
“The holiest site in Judaism is The Temple Mount, which is why Islam built a Mosque on top of it.”
As no doubt they would like to do to Canterbury Cathedral. Unfortunately, the limp wristed C of E would probably go along with it.
After the war of independence in 1948 and Jordanian control of the city of Jerusalem containing TM,WW and other Jewish holy sites. Jews were banned from visiting , never mind worshipping . On getting the area back in 1967, they found to their horror that the Muslims had made urinals out of Jewish grave stones.
Pure class.
I don’t think Mohammed (pbuh) ever dreamed of riding a flying horse to Canterbury. He was too busy having sex with his nine year old wife that day.
The BBC’s grasp of history is abysmal, almost wilfully so…
History is the enemy of liberal deceit. No doubt it will be abolished when they get to start with year one.
I remeber the first time I visited Krakow. in the early 90s. The Jewish population mostly lived a stone’s throw from one of the cathedrals. No question but the clergy must have known about the deportations and executions. Maybe there was nothing they could do maybe not. Anyway it is interesting that Schindler did do something.
I have often though this was a subtext of Spielberg’s film.
I was talking to an attractive Polish lady last night in the pub (a red-head – very good-looking – which is why I’ve been commenting all day – I’m still slightly drunk!) and we were talking about history. She said that all they learn’t (in history) was about Germany and Russia. A vice, if you will. Fair enough. Anyway she was impressed with my knowledge of Poland (I know all the names in Polish and German and large chunks of their history because Eastern Europe is a particular interest of mine). What I’m saying is … gawd knows what happened, we weren’t there … but, but, shit loads of people were killed … and the way it’s going it’ll happen again … don’t bet against the liblabcon becoming the narsty party, they’re halfway there!
BBC still using this image on their front page in the European election reporting: http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75048000/jpg/_75048593_75048513.jpg. They used it last week for the council elections, as did Sky. Doing an image search in Bing also reveals that it was used by The Times, The Guardian and The Economist (e.g. see http://www.economist.com/blogs/blighty/2014/05/eu-election-britain?zid=309&ah=80dcf288b8561b012f603b9fd9577f0e). Presumably this is some sort of State-approved image? It purports to be vote counting in Croydon, but looks more appropriate to South Africa.
Just heard the Dame and Pienaar on the 5Live phone in.
When discussing Miliband, Pienaar refers to him as “Ed” – you know, like he’s a good mate of his.
Can you imagine him ever referring to Nigel? Or Dave? No, nor me.
It’s the little things………
Pienaar invariably refers to the PM as, ‘Cameron’.
UKIP bias, on the Beebs virtual Europe map last night, they used the colour purple to represent Euro skeptic parties across Europe including the French FN and Golden Dawn. When UKIP’a success was announce the colour then changed to grey.
Bit subliminal.
Throughout the BBC’s coverage of the Euro elections the phrase ‘far right’ was used with tiresome frequency and it is still being used today.
Can anyone recall the use of ‘far left’? Ever?
I saw one of them on the BBC last night use the expression ‘hard left’ to describe Szyria in Greece. In his next sentence he referred to the the ‘far right’ in Germany and immediately corrected it to ‘hard right’. The BBC is balanced you see.
Could that be because the far left rarely win anything in fair elections?
Pope visits Israel, which according to bBC reporting should be under Islamic rule but can’t as the nasty blood drinking jews control the area. bBC ace reporter and middle eastern
EditorBigot tweets:Really you bBC nob?
I would never get tired of punching Jeremy Bowen’s face.
Posing for a photo-op in front of grafitti directly comparing Bethlehem with the Warsaw Ghetto went a long way to losing Israeli confidence.
Lord Christopher Monckton, Watts Up With That, UKIP’s success and the EU climate Kommissars:
‘Millions have died of starvation, or are menaced by it, because the world’s governments have unwisely trusted the UN’s climate panel (the IPCC) and the self-serving national scientific institutions that have profiteered by parroting its now-discredited findings.’
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/26/uks-only-climate-skeptic-party-crushingly-wins-the-eu-election/#more-110170
‘The outgoing Hauptkommissar, Manuel Barroso, is a Maoist – and, like nearly all of the Kommissars, a naïve true-believer in the hard-Left climate-extremist Party Line that is turning Europe into a bankrupt, unconsidered economic backwater.’
And it was Barroso who, in his acceptance speech of the EU being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize (stop spluttering at the back, there) proclaimed the EU to be ‘the blueprint for a future world government’.
That’s the EU backing Agenda 21 then.
The bBC, its love for all things Islamic and half the story:
Police ‘could be sent’ into failing Birmingham school
A council has said it will send police into a failing school if staff “refuse” to allow it to replace its governors.Al-Hijrah School, in Bordesley Green, was placed in special measures by Ofsted last year after inspectors found evidence of inconsistent teaching and poor governance.Birmingham City Council said it had tried to replace the school’s governors on Friday but staff had not cooperated.The council said it would call on support from police “if it had to”.
and here is what the bBC don’t report in their whitewash of an article:
Islamic school stand-off
Birmingham city council is to send police into a failing school closely linked to the “Trojan Horse” plot after it physically resisted attempts by the council to take it over last week. Al-Hijrah School, in Bordesley Green, was placed in special measures by Ofsted last year after inspectors found “inadequate” teaching, an unbalanced curriculum and governors “too heavily involved in the day-to-day running of the school.” More than half of parents at the school, which is 100 per cent Muslim, told the inspectorate their children were not being properly taught….However, Mr Hardy and members of the IEB were forced to withdraw from the school when they attempted to take over on Thursday after the existing head teacher, Anita Baptist, told staff not to cooperate with them. …On the same day, security guards hired by the school physically prevented a council officer from entering the premises…..There is also deep concern about the potential diversion of public funds paid to run the school. Until around 2012, according to sources close to the school, the council paid only a peppercorn rent to the Al-Hijrah Trust, of £1 a year, for the use of the school buildings. Then, however, the rent was raised to £300,000 a year, above market value for Victorian premises in a run-down area of Birmingham. School sources said they were not told how the figure had been reached.
Gee, I wonder, why the bBC left out all those snippets.
You And Yours” tries to sell the Electric Car with a contribution by the used-car salesman Nicholas Clegg.
We are being told how wonderful the ‘Electric Highway’ is, even free charging in some places!
No-one has asked where this electricity will come from. We are short of electricity generation capacity now and with rising demand for Internet capacity, (thanks BBC iPlayer), the situation is getting worse.
The solution is quite simple really. Put a windmill on top of the car. Once the car is moving the windmill turns and generates electricity which in turn powers the car which in turn charges the battery (as it is) which in turn powers the car which turns the windmill which generates electricity. Simples.
Funnily enough, several months ago SKY ran a piece on just such an amazing perpetual power machine…
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/05/16/hump-day-hilarity-chinas-wind-powered-car/
Coming soon to an electric highway near you…
Na – just do away with the technology bit and stick a sail on the top of the car .
Simples ?
You And Yours. Or, as someone memorably once retitled it, “You and Somebody else’s”.
I was at an eco-do recently with guest speaker Simon Crowfoot of Ecotricity.
Nice chap. And the audience lapped up the Electric Highway stuff, especially when the Q&A started and a bloke asked what was in it for them to have free points at all motorways and he said it was simply the parent company giving something back.
Interesting and indeed laudable business model.
Where things got less spiffy was a few engineering and marketing types seeking more information on fiture sustainable business models, especially with Nissan, BMW, Tesla etc seeing 30% electric cars within the decade.
He was less keen to comment on the point at which their free business model kicked over to charging (in all senses of the word) like a wounded bull, with a monopoly cleverly secured on the back of government-backed subsidy. A bit like the BBC in many ways.
He also stumbled a bit with what the GHG consequences of such power delivery was now, if not at car but elsewhere, and how this would be impacted as more and more vehicles became electric. In the event of power shortages who would be secured… the saintly road warrior or the granny seeking a cuppa?
If , just one country , say Japan or maybe France ,went over to electric cars in total , there is only just enough precious metals in the whole world, for the battery ,that all those cars in Japan would need. So in reality , all the worlds battery material would be squandered on just one country. So the green zealots are just talking total bullshit .
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Passed – C+
Jimmy summed it up the best……..
Surely if Scameron and co are behind fascist/Marxist UAF there may be grounds for taking legal action against them.
There’ll be no more dull comments from me now but this is a worthwhile site keep up the good work the last comment is merely a question I really don’t know if Scameron and the rest are behind this awful movement. if so it’s of grave concern.
Scameron is a founding member of the UAf which has the support of several Unions and MPs and a number of street active Islamists. The anger and hatred shown towards those they deem to be fascist or far right should be a matter of serious concern, all the more so because the BBC treats these thugs as communicators of informed opinion thus reinforcing their sense of importance. Given the strength of their opinions, their support for ‘persecuted Islamists’, and willingness to resort to violence, I would advice Farage to tread very carefully.
“Liberals lose 10 seats and now have only 1 MEP”
What is it about that headline that makes me laugh every time I see it?
Next national conference in a phone box in Blackpool.
Or a marquee in a pair of Sir Cyrils old y-fronts.
Car hire c/o Chris Huhne!
Steer clear of Mark Oaten’s chocolate milkshakes.
Even the BBC have realised that it was white Brits who voted for UKIP and that ethnics didn’t. They worried themselves that this might mean that racism was rearing its ugly head but were saved by a Labour’s Chukka ( do you think he plays polo so he can mix with people of his own social strata rather than plebs ) who said that people voted UKIP because of the Cost of Living Crisis!? But good old Nick said, Labour should be worried, because, as WALO Balls in his Yorkshire constituency had said,’in the north Labour would have to talk about (not do anything about you notice) immigration, and that Labour’s imported millions of immigrants, in their London ghettos, wouldn’t respond well to such a message.
Talking about immigration seems to consist of saying that Labour will make sure that all employers of immigrants are forced to pay them the minimum wage, which apparently many currently don’t. Can anyone explain to me why increasing the wages that immigrants get will reduce the number who come here? Surely the opposite must be true. But no one at the BBC bothers to ask Chukka et al this simple question.
Re the minimum wage issue.
Enforcing employers to pay the minimum wage as a minimum would allow our “native” unskilled workers be able to compete for jobs, which currently the employers are legally prevented from giving them.
Allow me to explain. If employers use a foreign employment agency to recruit staff from another EU country on temporary contracts, then they are legally allowed to pay the minimum wage of the country of origin of the employee. So for example, using a Bulgarian employment agency, a British employer could recruit temporary staff from Bulgaria and legally pay them 90p per hour. Which is Bulgaria’s minimum wage.
Clearly it would be illegal for them to pay a native Brit 90p per hour. In fact an unskilled Bulgarian could work here for double the minimum wage of Bulgaria, sending half home, and still undercut our unskilled unemployed youth.
There are a lot of employers employing immigrants because it is illegal to employ British nationals on the same wages.
The BBC News reports from Syria that the international Jihadists have joined ‘The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’. The majority of the foreign fighters have come from Britain.
UK fighters are involved in activities including beheadings, crucifixions and ill-treatment of women.
“We the Syrian people now experience beheadings, crucifixions, beatings, murders, outdated methods of treating women, an obsolete approach to governing society.”
“Many who participate in these activities are British.”
The BBC reports this letter from General al-Basheer in a very matter of fact way, studiously avoiding comment or opinion.
It is treating the subject as if it were a wasps nest. It knows it’s there, and it can tell people about it, but it’s not going to go any where near it even for a closer look.
It’s appalling, because when these idiots return to this country it’s likely that even if they don’t go out doing the same here they will pass on their beliefs and experiences to others, radicalising them in the process.
A shocking example of the rose tinted glasses and blinkers of Socialism, and when that’s not enough, burying their heads in the sand and hoping it’s all going to go away !
‘It’s appalling, because when these idiots return to this country it’s likely that even if they don’t go out doing the same here they will pass on their beliefs and experiences to others, radicalising them in the process.’
I think The Left call it ‘cultural enrichment’. Whatever, they must have some name for it because, after all, they facilitated it.
I noted during the BBC EU Election coverage that someone mentioned the similar names on ballet paper :
UK Independence Party
An Independence From Europe Party
I thought that such similar party names is so likely to cause a lot of confusion and possibly cause a travesty of democracy and apparently so did Nige:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-27128417
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/26/EXCLUSIVE-Electoral-Commission-Claimed-UKIP-Spoiler-Party-Name-Was-Sufficiently-Different
Unfortunately if caught my partner out and therefore complaint gone in:
Dear Electoral Commission,
Re: EU ELECTION 22 MAY 2014 – CONFUSING BALLET PAPER (SIMILAR NAMES)
I was most alarmed to discover on my EU ballot paper that there was a very confusing, similar party name, to the one I wished to vote for listed, which I nearly inadvertently voted for.
The similar party names were:
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
An Independence from Europe Party (UK Independence now).
I personally saw through this confusion and I did vote for the party of my desire. However my partner has let me know she was subject to the same obvious similarity which resulted in her inadvertently voting for the wrong party.
Could you please explain to me why you allowed this so similar name, to an established party, appear on the ballot paper?
I do believe this obvious similarity could result in the distortion of the electorate intended vote.
This would be such a travesty for our proud and ancient democracy that I spent 25 years military service defending and is, in my view, a serious dereliction of Electoral oversight.
So much so, I wish to raise this with my Member of Parliament and would therefore please request you inform me of the full facts of how this similarity was allowed, particularly who made the decision.
I am willing to deal with this matter by email.
Yours sincerely,
I spoke with a UKIP candidate about this yesterday. In his opinion it cost UKIP several thousand votes in his area – enough to have seriously distorted the result.
Which is, no doubt, precisely what was intended and what the Electoral Commisson, when it refused to intervene, chose to allow.
We now need enquiries into why it allowed this and why the BBC has deliberately buried this issue.
Naturally, we won’t get any such thing.
they allowed the name ‘Literal Democrat’ and Conversative though. Perhaps someone should stand as a ‘Liebour’ candidate, then when the lefties scream something might get done
You know it works – proof: we got rid of Andy’s cqc scam: If you feel they were wrong just do it folks.
PEFInbox@electoralcommission.org.uk
Would like to know the genesis of these “parties”…and more to the point, whose money went into them.
I`d never heard of any of them-yet there were plenty of them there,on the ballot paper.
How queer!
I was just talking to some teachers last week about the use of the word “nigger” in both “Of Mice and men” and “To kill a mockingbird”…GCSE staples that perpetuate the necessary myths of Bruce Springsteen and Al Sharpton respectively, for the dulled dopes that comprise British compulsory schooling of the plebs.
Sure enough-they`re to be dropped-but my citing of the n-word as the need to remove these books from the kids( post Clarkson at the BBC) isn`t mentioned by anybody.
God I`m good!…but the BBC and exam boards would rather cite the trashing of Gove as a pretext for this excuse of an article.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27563466
The Dambusters is on Channel 5 now ,with our favourite mutt,”uncut” somehow I don`t think al bbc would ever show it again without “cuts”. I would then report them to the RSPCA.
The BBC’s pathetic! All of the lies and seeking the views of only lefties in their loaded reports makes me sick. The news tonight was full of BBC underlying love for the EU; it is clear that this mafia-type institution is as out of touch with indigenous British people than the Fib Dumbs.
Hear, hear.
But even when Krish and Snowjob aren`t on Channel 4 News-their female stand-ins are just a serially biased and shouty over UKIP and Claire Fox=a lefty that dares to think for herself!( Gove and his f***in educational standards…as if!)
Burn the heretics…Channel 4 stuffed full of old Beeboids-and boy, does it show…
So, His Holiness the Pope visits Jerusalem and visits sites holy to Judaism and Islam; notice the omission?
Pope Francis visits Gethsemane, Cenacle ….. hint ….. Christianity.
Just gave some piece of crap about education integration in Ulster on Radio 4 a few minutes.
The BBC are for it-why the hell should the Irish get a decent education up north, whilst the rest of the UK gets whatever Ed Balls left in the jacuzzi in 2010?
But one thing struck me-Andrea Catherwood spoke ceaselessly of the …um…”Peace Wall” that separates Catholics from Protestants.
But only a few minutes before the BBC (in the shape of Jeremy Bowen) spoke of an “apartheid wall” that those damned Israelis have built to thwart Pope Francis` efforts to link Christians to Muslims( and if a few Jews survive, then that`s to the good).
So then folks…”Peace Wall” for Ulster-“Apartheid Wall” from the bloody Israelis.
The BBC won`t be telling us the difference anytime soon-iy just is…OK?
Come on cheer up, have just listened to a truly hilariously funny and clever Just a Minute. Giles Brandreth is a gem; luckily he is not a Tory politician anymore,
I must be visiting this site to much. For the most part, all I heard tonight was lefty diatribe.
If only Donna Laframboise was BBC Science Editor.
‘But the noble, beating heart of science has apparently atrophied. Common curiosity – gone. Independent thought – don’t make me laugh.
To quote Alan Leshner, the bureaucrat who currently heads the American Association for the Advancement of Science: “We don’t need to debate if the climate is changing anymore.” Leshner imagines he is in possession of the one and only truth. He has decreed that the only acceptable debate concerns “the best way to react” to human-caused global warming.
Science bodies stomping on skepticism. Individual scientists declining to work with colleagues who diverge from the straight-and-narrow.
Conformity. Dogma. Doctrine.
For shame.’
http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2014/05/15/whither-intellectual-freedom/
They also have the absolute proof/faith that the sun orbits the earth.
Kaye Burley asking a lot of gotcha questions to UKIP’s Neil Hamilton this afternoon.
” What’s UKIP’s policy on tax, on gay marriage, etc etc ? ”
I’m amazed she didn’t ask what’s UKIP’s policy on badger culling, the drains in Hull or the Schleswig-Holstein Question.
For Scott’s benefit
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schleswig-Holstein_Question
Hamilton should be a formidable opponent once UKIP actually DO have their policies worked out.
1. Abolish the BBC License fee.
2. Bring back grammar schools.
3. Execute Lee Rigbys murderers.
They`ll not need any more-let the BBC dare ask of any others.
Whilst I understand and sympathise with the sentiment about executing Lee Rigby’s killers, I cannot agree with it. They wanted martyrdom and if we give them it, it will encourage more of them.
Keep them on stale ham sandwiches and water, locked up 24 hours a day for the rest of their lives instead.
Schleswig Holstein, lol. In keeping with the theme maybe they should ask him about Don Pacifico.
Is that the Neil Hamilton of brown paper bag infamy? I’m quite prepared to believe that was an orchestrated Labour smear but his subsequent appearances on TV with his dreadful wife should surely mean the end of his political career. The man is a complete idiot.
Please tell me this is another Neil Hamilton.
The same. I seem to recall his TV appearances were the best way they could find to pay the legal bills at the time, though I stand to be corrected on that.
Jonathon Boyd Hunt, who wrote a book claiming Hamilton had been set up, used to post here, usually on the subject of Mr Hamilton.
Methinks that’s the one. Unless you mean Commissioner Gordon from the 1960’s Batman …
Just, in case, people think I’ve gone bonkers. The actor Neil Hamilton played Commissioner Gordon.
Bulging Bribes Batman!
Holy lib-dem wipeout, Batman! Holy, political earthquake etc etc.
Mark Easton [25:00] explains why it is only the oiks who don’t get ‘Europe’ and how we have always been affected by ‘waves’ of European immigration, (he probably thinks the 2004 Tsunami was just a ‘wave’ too).
It all comes down to how ‘open’ we are to globalisation apparently. The idiot doesn’t realise that globalisation is jobs moving to China because EU-imposed policies rob us of the flexibility to react to world events.
Newsnight was dire. The lowlight was the interview with Heseltine. What an old fraud he is and so delicately interviewed by Paxman .
The old lie. Waves of immigrants down the centuries. Are we English so lacking in talent and intelligence that we could make nothing of our country on our own?
Having watched “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof ” earlier (what a superb film) I thought that great line ‘”The odour of mendacity” applied to most of the outpourings of our angry and confused elites.
Mendacity and fear. The defining attributes of these discredited and useless people.
Dave S
I fully agree. The initial interview ‘discussion’ involving Neil Hamilton was the usual bbbc set up with a lib dem a former blair speech writer and some other guy – all of them pro europe except for NH and as soon as he started speaking they all started talking over him with no fair refereeing from paxman (who looked as if he can’t wait to leave newsnight). Then we had an article about the French result saying how bad it was that the FN had polled loads of votes with an accompanying interview from a French woman who was a total europhile saying that we need to become even more federalist more quickly and then we visit Heseltine in his very expensive home, one of the most pro euro union tory grandees I can think of and he was interviewed with no challenges whatsoever from paxo.
I had vowed not to watch newsnight anymore as it is the usual bbbc left wing mouth piece every night. I must have misplaced the remote control!
It seems that despite cameroon saying that he was going to ‘listen harder’ to the electorate that the plan is to carry on regardless…….In fact if one listens to the tory mantra just lately the referendum in 2017 has now become the referendum in ‘late’ 2017 so that means if will probably drift into 2018 and then 19 and then etc etc. Don’t you just love the lot of ’em………..
Harry Endfield on Michael Heseltine’s sexuality.
Harry Enfield was on telly last night and we were disgusted at the Downtown abbey sketch . If that is what the bBC thinks is funny then, it should be disbanded.
Before the Windrush docked there’d been very little immigration for about a thousand years. As far as I can tell there were a few thousand each of Normans, Jews, Flemish, Huguenots, the ‘poor Palatines’, up to the late nineteenth century. There was large scale Irish immigration after the potato famine although technically they were part of Britain anyway. (I’m descended from those people). Which leaves the Jews escaping the pogroms, Russian anarchists and small numbers of businessmen from around Europe (Greeks from the Ottoman Empire, Germans, Italians etc). All told there were probably a few hundred thousand over a thousand years! Now, courtesy of the liblabcon they’re letting more in per year than all those immigrants over a thousand years combined! It’s all about numbers, something that Easton and his ilk will never understand.
More lefty bilge from the evil Mark Easton on News 24 ,tonight asking people if they ,”Feel more European ” all 3 selected said “yes”.so thats it then .he got the fucking answer he wanted . Come the Revolution another one for putting up against the wall without a blindfold.
No worse than Matt Frei on Channel 4 tonight.
Old Matt( a Beeboid to his chinos) was in Paris worrying on behalf of an Algerian pastry chef about the coming threat to Islam from Marine Le Pen.
And only last week, he was in Copenhagen..worrying on behalf of a Egyptian flower seller about the coming threat from Morten Messerschmidt…Marine Le Pen by other means, according to Matt.
Poor Matt-all over Europe with the same hackneyed script…and it`s all so subtle isn`t it?
No ATMs, Metro rapists or Malmo day trippers for old matt eh?…bloody white trash harshing the liberals vibe.
What a drag maan!
Beeboid EASTON’s three perennial main political propaganda campaigns are for:-
1.) unlimited mass immigration into U.K;
2.) E.U federalism;
3.) legalised drugs.
I thought as much ,that Easton , should be arrested & deported immediately to any hell hole we can find , or as I previously mentioned , earlier , “Come the Revolution “
After a brief, jittery pause, the BBC has now had time to firm up its directive as to what to call the successful parties in the Euro elections:-parties to the right of centre will, henceforth, be called “far right”, whereas parties of the far-left will be called “radical left”. Got that?
I prefer ‘anti-establishment’ rather than ‘far right’. I realise this would cause bBC/gruadinista heads to explode as they don’t appear to realise they are the establishment they are ‘fighting’ against.
How the media spends much more coverage time on Clegg’s demise than on Farage’s success.
Is there a bias there?
MB wrote:
“How the media spends much more coverage time on Clegg’s demise than on Farage’s success.
Is there a bias there?”
Of course, by targeting the weaker half of the Government, if they (the bBC) can get Clegg to step down, it will result in a vote of no confidence and allow the likes of the bBC loving Labour party to push for an early disbandment of parliament, in the hope that people voting for UKIP will allow them to sneak back into power and restart their socialist experiment of replacing the racist British white man in favour of peaceful coffee coloured people by the score.
David Dumbleday” Why didn’t UKIP do well in London ???”
The spin was Londoners are more sophisticated, youthful, attractive, good looking etc etc ( in other words people outside of London aren’t ) and had nothing to do with the fact that some London neighbourhoods are 98 % black or muslim !!
Yeah, they’re so sophisticated and intelligent that they don’t know where Newark is, do they Abbott?
Just woke up to the overnight emails, and one rushed to me by the BBC:
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Nigeria army ‘knows where girls are’
Nigerian military say they know where schoolgirls kidnapped by Boko Haram in April are but cannot make it public
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Have to say, to that last, they may have hit on a poor way of achieving this aim.
Now mostly this would seem to be down to a military with a PR arm clearly more enhanced than its intel or combat sides, but one might have thought any professional medium truly concerned about ‘our girls’ may have chosen to not mention this and maybe point out that bragging of known locations can see them getting moved?
But it seems the ‘news’ was too good not to share.
Here’s hoping any BH supporters are not on the BBC’s email list.
What do readers think of this one then…. “Scotland becoming more diverse”; apparently it is filling up with refugees – from England.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27580594
By 2011, the number of people living in Scotland who identified as being other than “white Scottish” reached 850,000.
The largest minority group was those who described themselves as “white: other British”.
Could it be that people have just decided to describe themselves as “British” rather than Scottish”?
I might just allow myself to indulge in a little schadenfreude over this, having taken a certain amount of stick from my Scottish in-laws over the years based on their claimed superior tolerance (Catholics excepted).
We’ll see….
Burn the Catholics!!! Now, that comes from the fact that the priest used to come round all the time asking for money. At least that’s the family legend.
A bit of good news at least (assuming I have captured the page correctly: it’s about the new itv morning show ratings):
http://www.private-eye.co.uk/?issue=1366
This should assist greatly when negotiating market rates for talent, as it’s rather clear the pervasive nature of the BBC’s signal is perhaps the thing of value rather than any actual ‘talent’ some may or may not possess.
Of course those back room guys and gals at the BBC can continue to award themselves telephone numbers for throwing wads of cash to anyone they fancy, whose agents probably know it would be worth a few years free to get such profile.
The BBC just love a bit of diversity… their favourite kind of report:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-27580594
Another BBC-sponsored liberal sends a rocket up those evil Brits!
‘Dan Snow @thehistoryguy · 17h
Reading about Britain’s rocket attack on Boulogne in 1805. Total myth that the 20th century was a new era of direct attacks on civilians.’
Yeh! Forget Guenica -that was just a little inter-european bickering, The British are the problem.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – the point of the BBC-sponsored lefties is that they provide the slogan ammunition for the left-liberal debate. Just wait and you’ll be sure to hear some public-sector-Nicky-Campbell fan-boy quote this Dan Snow soundbite on a Radio Salford phone-in.
Snow is one of the worst culprits when it comes to lefty revisionism. When I was at university studying history we were told, always try to be objective. Snow wouldn’t know the meaning of the word.
How could you be objective at uni when the history lecturer had formulated the labour manifesto and put a line through your work and marked you down if you said something that she didn’t agree with.? It is very difficult to go against the flow and that’s why it important that this site remains a serious site to expose BBC bias.
And just to prove my point – a few highlights from those sensitive self-loathing liberal souls oh so very impressed by the BBC version of (Britain’s) Horrible History so assiduously pumped out 24/7…. Oh how the Twitterati do love their lefty Beeboids…..
Oscar Windsor-Smith @OscarWindsor 18h
@thehistoryguy Hi, Dan. Intriguing. Where can we learn more about this?
Andy @andrewjohnlock 18h
@thehistoryguy We thumped Copenhagen with rockets and artillery 2 years later as well. All in the name of self-preservation…
Slim Chance @Stijntsje 18h
@thehistoryguy Indeed. Just look at the crusades.
Josh Devlin @JoshuaDev 18h
@thehistoryguy Perhaps not a new era but the scale was without a doubt unprecedented in the modern era…
Details
Niels Christensen @NielsGBC 18h
@thehistoryguy And the ‘terror’ attack on Copenhagen 1807, Congreve rockets was in use
pyewackett_mike @mikesbooks 17h
@thehistoryguy You could also perhaps, count the Black Prince’s chevauchees there too.
Richard Thornton @MGtoffee 18h
@thehistoryguy from pyrotechnic to lethal weapon thanks to Sir William Congreve. Wonder what he’d say about his creation today?
Job done. Lefty credentials of our telly-tax funded Dan gilded. The Brits maligned for something we can hate ourselves for doing goodness knows how long ago.
And in another another breath the Chinese or the Indians will get the BBC big up inventing the rocket. Or ‘Isalm’ or… maybe not.
Ah the Congreve Rocket. So much more terrifying than the exploding shell (Chinese) used by the Little Corporal all over Europe.
I suppose next they’ll be going after Shrapnel and Case for finding more fiendish ways of knocking down Johnny Foreigner. Thank God for those two eh chaps?
The Congreve rocket was notoriously inaccurate and unstable. It probably did more damage to its users than its targets. Wellington was extremely dismissive of their effectiveness and rarely used them in his campaigns.
They were indeed but they were no more a civilian terror weapon than any other explosive projectile at the time. i.e. not at all.
For example the ship-borne mortar as used on RN bomb vessels to bombard forts. How many of them went astray and killed civilians? The original bombs used in the 1500s fired bitumen filled shells designed to burn down buildings. Surely that’s ‘worse’ than inaccurate and largely experimental rockets?
NB The Chinese had been using rockets as weapons and mortars for centuries before the British did. Were theirs especially accurate or did they fly off and kill civvies too?
But the attack on Boulogne was not a ‘direct attack on civilians’. It was an attack on the French fleet using highly inaccurate rockets which fell into civilian areas. This is not a direct attack on civilians, it was an attack on a military target which happened to go astray.
The first direct attack is either the naval bombardment of Scarborough, Hartlepool, and Whitby or the Zeppelin raids, during WWI
So in Dan [nepotism ] Snowjobs world any attack on a place where civilians are present is a ‘terror’ attack so that lumps every siege of a city, town, fortress, and army’s baggage train a church a monastery , country well unless both armies agree to meet up in the arctic [before it’s all slushy like Dans brain] then as far as I can tell every nation and every people on the planet have at some time been ‘Terrorists’ to the snowmans dogma !
Snow is supposed to be an expert in Medieval history, so he should know that civilians were targeted throughout Europe during sieges and subsequent sackings of fortress towns and cities. Even villagers were subjected to atrocities committed by passing groups of soldiers. It was the way of warfare back then – chivalry be damned. All countries armies behaved the same way back then.
If Snow knew WTF he was talking about he would be more concerned about what happened at Cuidad Rodrigo and Badajoz . The end of both sieges shows what happened when the sweepings of the gutter are given muskets and told to fight their way into a town.
My God! is that the end result of an Oxford Education? No wonder he needed his dad to get him a job.
He is married to a daughter of the Duke of Westminster BTW so no privilege for lefty Dan eh?
And another thing!
I suppose the medieval use of catapults and dead animals to cause illness amongst the population during sieges was a new era in biological warfare eh Dan?
A soldier who survived the Forlorn Hope at Badajoz was called Smith, he went on to found the town in South Africa named after his wife, Ladysmith. (If I remember all that correctly.) Now there was an Englishman!
In todays BBC world he would be a murdering terrorist.
‘myth that the 20th century was a new era of direct attacks on civilians’
Guessing there is a semantic distinction in the C20 as a ‘new era’, but not sure what point is being made. Seems like another bit of careful book-ending of a specific moment at best, to dump on one combatant as worst.
All a bit ‘two wrongs’, as any deliberate civvy attack is horrible and even collateral created by dubious rules of war behaviour by some (ie: siting Grad launchers next to playgrounds) as sad as it can be.
But being beastly to the entire other side is pretty much throughout history, as one is sure the Falklanders will testify.
Especially way back when, as I doubt lobbing rotting animal corpses into walled cities was a precursor to the Berlin airlift.
We were always told, as historians, to be objective or at least try to be but it’s difficult because we always take our own prejudices into the subject with us. Historians are biased. I had a very good tutor in a module on South East Asian history who told the subject from a left-wing perspective. Basically, the famines and everything else were all our fault, However, he taught it with such conviction that he held your attention. Personally, I agreed with him on some things but disagreed on others.
When I wrote my dissertation I decided to do it on Hollywood and the Cold War. At the time, being a lefty, I sided with the Hollywood 10 against the machinations of McCarthy and Nixon. I was horrified by the treatment of the Rosenberg’s; little did I know, they were guilty all along. I figured I’d use the films as primary sources and fortunately, there were one or two writers who’d published pamphlets about this subject. There was one on ‘The Iron Curtain’ and another on ‘High Treason.’ Then, there was ‘I married a communist’, ‘Red Planet Mars’, ‘My Son John’, ‘I was a communist for the FBI’, The Whip Hand’ etc. (All worth watching I may add). I wrote it from the left, the HUAC hearings were wrong, the blacklist and the greylist was an abomination and the films that accompanied them were shite (thanks Karol Reisz). In fact, watching them now (without my lefty hat on), they’re quite good b-movie thrillers.
What I’m trying to say is that we have our prejudices, if I wrote it now it’d be completely different. The odd thing about Snow is that he writes from the left/BBC bubble and yet he’s from a family of inbred toffs who either went into the army or church. Everything we ever did was wrong. It wasn’t! I can’t wait for him to criticise his incompetent antecedents although I’m sure that Snow will absolve them from all blame. That the other thing about historians: always blame someone else.
Didn’t hear Blair asked something along the lines of ‘Isn’t this a problem of your own making given your hidden agenda when in power of imposing mass immigration on the British people?’
Sorry, meant as reply to Roland’s post below.
Wait until he gets to the September 1807 attack on Copenhagen. He’ll have kittens over that one.
And here’s me thinking that’s what rockets are for. On Guy Fawkes Night I always point mine south, anyway. They generally never make it past the local pub, though. Boulogne’s a bit out of range.
Tony Blair was brought on to Today to demonstrate the contempt in which the establishment holds the electorate. He was asked no tough questions and clearly the brief was to allow him to spout off unchallenged about how good the EU is and insinuate that UKIP are really a nasty bunch of racists.
He waffled about subsidiarity and, when asked to name an area where the EU could leave things to individual countries to deal with, was allowed to get away with “Well, there’s some regulations that aren’t necessary”. Which says nothing. He clearly didn’t know any, didn’t think there were any and was going through the motions of pretending to the great unwashed that there was any intention to act – but was never challenged on this by Mr Naughtie.
Just remind me, what exactly did his government want to rub our noses in?
And what was the economic theory behind this nose rubbing?
Tony know all about peoples need for immigrating since he is the reason their country’s no longer have working governments, roads, hospitals , freedom ! but he did at least boost the third worlds bomb making /coffin sectors so a success for Tones on that score!
Tone saw everything to do with government and the EU was to do with, in his words, ‘Power’. Nothing to do with improving the lot of the country’s citizens. I think it explains what drives him and the lot at the top of the EU (as well as many city halls in the UK). He was also pretty rude about people who voted UKIP (and remember I didn’t). I really think that people in what they consider the higher echelons don’t understand the electorate. Immigration isn’t because people from other countries are black, white, green or sky blue pink, it is that the sheer numbers affect the cost of housing, the pressures on the NHS, schools and jobs. Until politicians in general, and Labour in particular understand what they have done to this country – Labour in the search for extra votes – then nothing will be done to resolve the problem. Tuesday morning rant over and I know that I am preaching to the converted.
Oh they do understand what they have done to the country all right, as they’ve done it by design. However, some of them don’t understand why large sections of the population are unhappy about it and some of them don’t believe people even have a right to be unhappy about it. You know, those uneducated middle-aged white people who live outside of London.
I wrote on the DM website, ‘I’d say drop dead’ … but that would rob the British people of a trail and execution. Funny enough, they never printed it.
That was a damn sight nicer than the memsahibs comment on the mail, apparently mentioning Blair and judicial beheading isn’t allowed!
I find many of my comments are not published on the DM site and they may be just of the type that soap and water is the best thing to use to wash your face or that many cars have metallic paint. I am not sure if it is boredom on the part of the moderator or if there is a deeper meaning.
This should go on the election entry but: it is really about the bBC failing to publish items that are in the public interest. This time it is the dodgy voting practices that have been going on; the folded voting papers, the spoiler party names, the goings on at Tower hamlets. The inaction of the Electoral commission.
This is what the bBC should be reporting, not a peep from what I have seen.
Was just about to post similar, the MSM in general seem strangely quiet about the the sinister goings on in the Emirate of Tower Hamlets…..
Funny how the bBC encapsulates all of the above with this innocuous statement:
The Electoral Commission said it was aware of reports of intimidation at counts and polling stations.
Tower Hamlets count to restart after two suspensions
Yet the local rag in East London (which has to pay its own way in life) goes into much more detail:
Police probe alleged intimidation at Tower Hamlets polling stations
Police and local authority officials are looking into alleged intimidation outside polling stations and party leaflets left inside voting booths in yesterday’s elections at Tower Hamlets in London’s East End.Political activists were reported gathering outside polling stations trying to influence people turning up to vote.
One voter claimed on Twitter that a leaflet handed out by Lutfur Rahman’s supporters showing people how to vote for the incumbent mayor was found inside a booth—which would be a breach of electoral law.Tower Hamlets council was later investigating the incident.
Incidents have also been reported of activists milling outside polling stations intimidating voters as they arrive.Police were at all 125 poling stations with orders to disburse any crowds gathering.Police Insp Gary Anderson said: “Tower Hamlets is the only London borough where police were present at every polling station. This decision was taken in response to concerns raised by the community at the previous election.”
And to think we all laughed at the Blackadder episode of Dish and Dishonesty where Edmund tries to control:
The rotten borough of Dunny-on-the-Wold, consisting of a tiny plot of land with several farm animals – 3 rather mangy cows, a Dachshund named Colin and a small hen in its late forties.
I’ve already said, that at the general election, if there’s no UKIP candidate in my constituency in London (unlikely), I’ll be voting for the Standing In The Corner Dressed Stupidly And Looking Stupid Party, rather than a LibLabCon candidate.
They did report on radio 4 about the intimidation in the voting in Tower Hamlets and said that the police had been given no powers to intervene even if people complained directly to them.
You are confusing the BBC with a professional news gathering organisation.
I have not confused the BBC for a professional news gathering organisation since they refused to ask Blair what the shelf life of Bulk Liquid Anthrax is in the run up to the invasion.
I only wish this was a joke, yet I reckon you`re giving us comedy gold!
Maybe it was past its sell-by date( or is that “use by” or “best before”?) and therefore not an issue.
Imagine Scarlett and Campbell already inserting these caveats into the Chilcott snowjob…and ready for we the plebs to see in 2035.
As Roland Deschain notes above, Tony Blair was brought on to calm the nerves of the establishment. Earlier Today brought on another “neutral” in this war – Ken Clarke. Clarke asserted that in Thursday’s poll a minuscule part of the electorate voted for UKIP. Accordingly, Clarke opined, there’s no need to panic. UKIP can be safely ignored and after a little bit of tinkering round the edges le projet can continue more or less undisturbed. You see, to the BBC and its chosen commentators, a few bromides from the establishment parties and some hot air from Brussels tonight after the meeting of the heads of government should be enough to settle nerves and, more important, keep the little people quiet.
What you never hear from the EUfans is that if Dave was serious about “change” in the EU he’d be talking about genuine and fundamental institutional change. The EU “Parliament”, for instance, is not able to propose legislation but can only react to proposals from the EU’s unelected executive. It’s as if the US Congress could neither propose legislation nor override a presidential veto. That’s a part of the democratic deficit – perhaps the most important part of the future USE – which requires change. AFAIAA Cameron has not proposed any change in that particular part of the EU “constitution”. Nor AFAIAA has this point been taken up by the less than assiduous interviewers on the BBC.
The astounding ignorance of most of journalists and commentators on the basics of le projet is both deliberate and self-serving. In the media generally but, particularly, at the BBC to be eurosceptic is to shut off large parts of your career progression. It is directly analogous to being cast as a climate change “denier”. How many of those work for the BBC?
The BBC reaction to Thursday’s election has been to turn up the “racism” volume and try to equate UKIP – a moderate party if ever I saw one – with the various nutters over the Channel. As another commenter on this thread noted, on the BBC it’s all “extreme” right and “radical” left. UKIP’s “extremism” comprises bringing up matters which the establishment parties would prefer kept quiet. Analogously, again, I suspect the BBC regards this website as “extreme” rather than “radical”. After all the subject of BBC bias is clearly inflammatory and it would be preferable – well, to the BBC – if the site’s commenters shut up and let the BBC continue on its merry way undisturbed.
If we CAN depart the EU, then presumably none of the ‘twilight posts with big salaries and lovely large expenses’ will be reserved for the ungrateful Britishers. Since the war criminal here still wants to be President of Europe, then I’d have thought that campaigning on the basis of “Let’s Destroy His Dreams”, complete with picture of the oleaginous bastard and shedding a tear as he stares wanly at a padlocked door marked “EU Prezzies For Good Boys” would be a vote winner for UKIP.
Meantime, what are the UAF doing ? Here’s the stuff of their anti-fascistic dreams back in the country and no protests, no attempts at citizen’s arrests, no nothing.
The BBC meme is now that UKIP supporters are generally ill-educated and read tabloid newspapers. Labour’s Mark Easton went to ‘welfare’ Hastings, Sussex, and found some obligatory C’s and D’s consult to give him the results he wanted.
Over and out from this dim and ill-educated holder of two degrees.
It’s an odd one, as the BBC is usually more sure-footed (certainly than its Labour puppets, who seem a constant source of disappointment to them) and nuanced in its damage limitation, especially in terms of timing, subtlety, drip-feed and volume.
But today it has been just one massive knee-jerk dollop of toys out the pram, clear as day rigging.
But to what effect?
Tell folk they are thick, racist or whatever for how they voted, when they are not, and claim to know better than they do why they actually voted, will simply piss ’em off more. And highlight how the establishment is simply running even more scared, lashing out even more, and has even less credibility than it barely had before.
Run a ‘story’ a few days after a political trouncing that a 1/3 of the country did what they did because they are knuckle-dragging KKK members is about as daft as it gets.
Confirmation bias tacked on to blatant propaganda at its most naked.
Especially as such as postal voting and Tower Hamlets ballot war zones are being carefully skirted.
The only people such editorial highlight or ommission will fool are those who need the BBC to tell them how to think, and when and where to get outraged.
Followers of Jasmine, I salute you; you have taken a disaster and turned it into a total obliteration of any hope you had of being trusted or credible.
And in record time.
But if all the UKIP thickies read the tabloids then they wouldn’t have voted UKIP because the tabloids would tell them UKIP is waycist. Standard smear if you don’t like the BBcs line it’s because you lack the intelligence to comprehend what they are preaching to you.
Exam board ‘drops’ Mockingbird and Steinbeck after Gove reforms – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-27563466 (complete with comments section for people to express their outrage).
Reports that I want to ban American authors from the curriculum are the purest fiction, says Michael Gove. – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/10857133/Michael-Gove-Kill-a-Mockingbird-Id-never-dream-of-it.html
Yet another case where the BBC got wind of a rumour and treated it as established fact to score political points…
This actually looks worth delving into further.
I know in the weird world of the BBC what they claim not to know can be ignored to hurt their ideological foes, but what you’ve posted certainly looks like they either through ineptitude or outright venality, post-McAlpine, again chose to take ‘news’ they’d been fed, not carry out any basic checks and run with what looked tasty.
Whereas the Telegraph, no longer a news medium I have much time for either, actually ran it by the guy in question to get confirmation and/or context of his side
That’s more than naughty by the nation’s least trustworthy broadcaster, surely?
OT, but I consider TKAMB a great piece of literature well worthy of being on any syllabus. However, my wife and I did get concerned our kids were stuck on ‘Of Mice and Men’ all year with ‘Grapes of Wrath’ looming. Again classics of sorts, but erring on the limited in genre. And utterly restrictive.
‘280,000 candidates studied just one novel for the AQA GCSE. The overwhelming majority of them (more than 190,000) studied Of Mice and Men.
Mr. Gove is bang on. It’s an OK book. But not the only literature in town.
In fact this was enough for ours to decide to drop English between GCSE’s and AS as they were bored out of their minds.
I recall my ‘O’ Levels, where Shakespeare & Dickens were compulsory, but teachers were given opportunity to branch out with a ‘free choice’. Ours, bless him, opted for Sci-Fi, so while others were wading through Austen or Chaucer we were also devouring Clarke, Bradbury, Asimov, etc.
Best days of my life.
“True to form, Michael Gove is putting his own ideological interests ahead of the interests of our children”
Labour
True to form, especially with such as that call-out on top of the reality they have skewed, the BBC again shows itself to be a one party propaganda machine.
And a professional news medium of zero competence, accuracy or integrity.