Listening to Lyse Douchet parrot the propaganda lines put forward by Hamas, one can be forgiven for thinking that there are in fact no Hamas terrorists in Gaza and that Israel only ever gives innocent people. When it comes to reporting what goes on in Gaza, the BBC show a level of bias that is so spectacular that it amazes.
NO TERRORISTS IN GAZA
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Agreed. degree and others have posted what Hamas say to do in reporting and social media, what to say, how to say it, what figures to give etc…and it is exactly what the BBC do! Unbelievable.
Middle East crisis: Israel releases ‘Gaza tunnel footage
21 July 2014 Last updated at 18:08 BST
Israel sent ground troops into Gaza on Thursday, saying the ground operation is necessary to target Hamas’ network of tunnels. Also saying it is necessary to stop rockets firing at Israel.
It has stated the tunnels pose a threat of terrorist attacks against the Israeli population. Is their any doubt. The tunnels cross the border and on at least three occasions Gazan fighters have exited those tunnels close to civilian communities. Doesn’t the BBC have a single journalist capable of going and fact checking?
Israel said it had killed more than 170 militants since Thursday night, when it launched the offensive. I’ll bet a penny to a pound that Israel didn’t use the word ‘militant’.
Air strikes are also continuing, with the Palestinian death toll reportedly having passed 500, the majority of them civilians. No, Hamas sources state? No mention of the Al Jazeera story that casts considerable doubt on that claim? No mention of the Hamas directive to lump all Palestinian deaths together?
The BBC looks at Israel Defense Forces footage from the operation.’
The Israel Defence Forces footage shows suspected Hamas fighters in bushes, firing on Israelis Is the BBC saying suspected because they could be Chinese of South African Bushmen or because they were wearing IDF uniforms right down to the garters and Israel didn’t attack because they might have been Israelis in the wrong position?
Israel says it sent troopps into Gaza to find and destroy tunnels like this one No mention that the tunnels are under civilian homes, mosques, etc. and often have entrances through those buildings, converting them into legitimate military targets.
A paratrooper can be seen … Point of information. It would be a combat engineer not a paratrooper. Did the BBC just assume paratrooper?
With horror I think of the possibilities if the terrorists had succeeded in reaching Israeli civilian townships
The Itamar attack, also called the Itamar massacre, was an attack on a Jewish family in the Israeli settlement of Itamar in the West Bank that took place on 11 March 2011, in which five members of the same family were murdered in their beds. The victims were the father Ehud (Udi) Fogel, the mother Ruth Fogel, and three of their six children—Yoav, 11, Elad, 4, and Hadas, the youngest, a three-month-old infant. According to David Ha’ivri, and as reported by multiple sources the infant was decapitated. The settlement of Itamar had been the target of several murderous attacks before these killings.
The Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades stated that “the heroic operation is a natural response to the (Israeli) occupation crimes against our people in West Bank and Gaza Strip.” An opinion poll indicated that 63% of Palestinians opposed and about one-third supported the attack. One of the perpetrators of the murders was described as a “hero” and a “legend” by members of his family, during a weekly program.
“France: ‘They’re shouting ‘Death to the Jews’ and attacking synagogues. It’s completely out of control.’”
[Excerpt]:
“The thoroughly cowed and compromised dhimmi BBC identifies the rioters only as “youths,” as if its readers will naturally understand that young people have a problem with Israel. No mention is made, of course, of Islamic antisemitism, or of the violent Muslim riots that we have seen all over the world in the last couple of weeks.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/france-theyre-shouting-death-to-the-jews-and-attacking-synagogues-its-completely-out-of-control
At this moment, the top item on the BBC website / Mid East section:
Israeli soldier ‘missing’ in Gaza
http://www.bbc.com/news/world/middle_east/
Any reasonable person would connect this title to the Hamas claim, from a few days ago, to have kidnapped a soldier. Wouldn’t you?
But the title is one thing, and the contents quite another.
You discover the truth only after clicking the link:
The so-called ‘missing’ soldier is in fact an unidentified body. Not at all missing, but unidentified. The BBC are here being quite disingenuous in their use of the military jargon of MIA, which includes unidentified bodies.
In the past, I have seen the BBC lying through omission and through innuendo, but I am not sure what to call this new technique.
And in case you wonder why a body remains unidentified, this is standard procedure when a body is too burnt to be identified by sight. Forensics are required by law even if everybody knows who was there.
I actually know this from my own experience. Decades ago, when I did my national service, we had a tank hit in action and everybody inside incinerated. We knew exactly who was there, but we could not inform the families for another week until forensics finished their investigations.
Addendum:
Assuming it will soon disappear from the front page, here is the direct link:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28416221
Addendum.
OK, to be fair to the BBC, the same has now appeared in the Israeli press:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4547981,00.html
So perhaps it isn’t that simple.
There’s a real air of self-importance with that Doucet woman; she gives off this impression that what SHE is doing there (never mind any other journalist) is really, really essential to the development of mankind. Personally, I find her an irritating, self-important Muslim brown-noser who thinks she’s indispensable.
Crispin Blunt (CINO, Reigate) is doing his upmost to be favoured by the BBC should his homophobic constituency executive council get their way to deselect him. Yesterday in Parliament he vied with the best of the Israel haters (generally not Conservative members) asking the PM
the death toll of Palestinian children in the conflict since 2000 stood at 1,430. Today it is reported at 1,472. When democracies depart from the rule of law, they give legal and moral authority to our enemies. Israel is in consistent and, today, grievous breach of the Geneva conventions. What is my right hon. Friend doing to bring Israel back within the rule of law?
Incidentally the Geneva Conventions state clearly that the presence of protected persons does not prevent the attack on a legitimate military target.
BBC are constantly running the line ” disproportionate Israeli response”. Yesterday in Parliament there was a debate on the downing of the Malaysian jet in the Ukraine and events in Gaza. The majority of Labour MPs were only concerned with what they described as the illegal and murderous aggression towards innocent children in Gaza. So in accordance with the logic proclaimed by the BBC and its Labour friends, all those (who are still surviving) involved in the bombing of Berlin, Dresden etc. are guilty of war crimes against innocent civilians and children and should be arrested and put on trial.
The price for being truthful here is to have comments deleted?
It appears Mr Vance ‘does not like it up ‘im’
Perhaps he should take up residence in North Korea. He might find their policy of information suppression more to his liking.
Considering that this is Mr Vance’s blog, I should think he has every right to delete what he likes you rude little git.
With your and Scott’s, et al’s ad homs, I’m surprised that he hasn’t blocked you all for your absence of courtesy and good manners.
If you don’t like the t&c’s of this blog, piss off somewhere else!
“Piss off somewhere else”
Nope.
The Bureau of Vance has been sharing some updated figures
Maybe he genuinely doesn’t know what year it is. I suspect he does.
I wouldn’t have thought the date was the most important point there.
But why not use the correct* figures?
*if an extreme anti Islamic blog can at all be deemed as having credible information.
I would be really flattered if I was David Vance. The BBC use so many of their staff in futile attempts to discredit him. They fail miserably, but it makes it clear that Mr. V. must have scored too many valid points in his blogs that the BBC feel this desparate need to try and trip him up on trivialities, like Turtle head’s irrelevant point above.
Well done David. Keep up the good work. Truth will be spoken to the BBC even when they won’t speak it themselves.
You sound demented. “Keep lying David we love you regardless of how much you lie”
if the beeb were in anyway worried about Vance they would probably just stop paying him to appear rather than waste resources by questioning him online. N’est pas?
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Tired John? Too tired to discredit my assertions? Nobody else has managed so go back to sleep.
No – you are simply boring.
You claim to be critical of BBC pro-Palestinian bias – but you never show any criticism. You just nit-pick all the time.
Pointing out a serious flaw in the rhetoric of the custodian of this site is not nit picking. It absolutely proves that bias and propaganda are fine by him providing they fit his beliefs.
Anyone using the media in this horrific situation have a responsibility to be truthful. Mr Vance’s deviation from the truth is purposeful and puts him at the Pallywood level that he quite rightly decries for its inauthenticity.
Had I made a similar error I would have retracted it and apologised for a silly mistake. Tellingly he has not denied his transgressions nor has he taken any steps to rectify the damage done by the proliferation of the Syria video, preferring instead to tough it out and block anyone who dares call him on it. Anyone with eyes can see this and nobody has defended him for doing it unless you would like to be the first?
Nowhere in the thread above do you mention any Syrian video. I said “ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz” after you comments on using 2013 as against 2014 figures for Muslim muders in Ramadham – the figures were labelled 2013 very clearly.
As regards video from Syria, if you mean the one about young children near a rocket or mortar being fired,, I think you will find that I was the first person at this site to point out that some of the comments under the YouTube video were suggesting that it was not from Gaza, that it was earlier from Syria.
So quit your sanctimonious claims to be the only person to be on the lookout for errors.
Meanwhile – after weeks of nitpicking here you have still not pointed out any BBC pro-Palestinian bias. Are you deaf and blind ?
Neither thanks for asking. I notice the accusations of BBC bias are now often coupled with accusations against Sky, Channel 4, even the Daily Mail has now shifted tone as the realities become more clear.
How long will it take before someone realises that reportage worldwide is highlighting what it sees? Even the Times of Israel has covered anti war sentiment among the jewish community.
Hey, Turtle, what happened to your 26 co-trolls. Just 8 likes on this last post? better wake them up quick.
Could someone give Turtle the same avatar picture as Scott. It would make make it so much simpler to spot and then scroll past his posts.
Rubbish
Media like the BBC are NOT highlighting rockets being fired from civilian areas, they are NOT highlighting houses, schools and hospitals used as bases or shields, they are NOT stressing that Hamas has been keeping people in houses or entire neighbourhoods for which the IDF has issued umpteed evacuation warnings, they have NOT highlighted that Hamas has refused or broken each of the ceasefires so far, and above all they have they have NOT identified the huge risks posed by the tunnel infrastructure.
When 20,000 or more people choose to turn up to a funeral in Haifa of a young soldier from Texas last night – showing very strong support for the IDF – the BBC ignores it. But it can scour down the occasional peacenik in Israel – of whom there are damn few this time round.
Since when is quoting figures from a year that is not current lying? The only person apparently lying here is therefore you. As with all left-wing nut-jobs all you can achieve is name calling and claiming someone is lying when they are clearly not is pathetic. I want my money back as they are clearly paying you too much of our money for too little result.
It becomes a lie when you post it in 2014 and call it an update.
Is that beyond your ken?
…and that would be “N’est-ce pas ?” ….just to get things correct, as you seem to like things to be.
Thank you for the correction.
Essential reading is the most recent posting by Daniel Greenfield ( Sultanknish blog) I am sure many of you already read this excellent man daily. A real antidote to the BBC’s and others distortions and evasions.
Many here are strong supporters of Israel. It is important that we counter the views we will meet in the course of our daily lives. We all have our reasons for supporting Israel. Mine are personal and I know that in the world away from the BBC there are so many who will not waver in their support for that country. Read Daniel and reflect.
I support Israel’s existence for many reasons but the main ones are for truth and justice. When the first is turned on its head the second has no chance, and that has been happening in this conflict since Entebbe (and started even before that by the neo-nazi Baader-Meinhof psychos).
the media always point out that more palestinians have died in this conflict than israelis,what they dont point out if it was not for the iron dome defence system shield that has a 85 % success rate in knocking out these scud missiles and grad rockets we would be talking about 100s if not 1000s of dead israelis now,so yes hamas and there left wing appeasers in the uk like to play the numbers game for there own anti semetic agenda,but at the end of the day hamas are self genociding there own people by using them as human shields while the idf are going out of there way to prevent any casualties at all,that is the bottem line here.
Yes, the BBC sounds so indignant that ‘Iron Dome’ works. As an Israeli (? spokesman) who was interviewed a few days back rightly said, “Would you prefer it if we turned ID off so that our citizens can be killed?”
It was the ambassador to the EU and on Newsnight. What can you expect?
this is off subject but I just have to tell Mr Thikas Toosh Ortpants that some years ago I worked with a man whose similar phrase went “as thick as two short planks AND a shithouse seat”.