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  1. Teddy Bear says:
    July 24, 2014 at 11:15 pm

    Dr. Taj Hargey, the brilliant Oxford Imam, has launched an online petition which requires 100,000 signatures to force government to debate the ban of the burka.

    I urge all reading this to sign – and spread the word. Only 127 signatures so far.

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    • WiganCookie says:
      July 25, 2014 at 11:38 am

      Signed

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    • MartinW says:
      July 25, 2014 at 1:15 pm

      I wholeheartedly support the motion that the burka should be banned everywhere in public in the UK. [Of course, the egregious Mrs May, aided and abetted by Featherstone, disagreed]. However, even though Dr Hargey is reported to be a ‘moderate’ (whatever that is supposed to mean in islam), data including e-mail addresses from this survey will be widely accessed, and will very likely will find its way into the hands of those with a malign view. Frankly, I trust no-one in the Islamic community, and will not sign this petition.

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      • Teddy Bear says:
        July 25, 2014 at 10:18 pm

        I can understand your suspicions.
        However the petition site is a government website, and I doubt any personal information is shared. Also I don’t give a shit who knows that I want the burka, as well as much of the dhimmi pandering to radical Islam, to end.

        As for Dr. Taj Hargey he is one of the best Muslim voices I’ve heard in this country, especially for an Imam.

        He is the same man who appeared on the Jeremy Vine show, together with the head of the NSPCC sexual abuse programme, following convictions of the Muslim sex gang in Oxford. Dr Taj made it very clear that the reasons this kind of abuse was able to be perpetrated for so long was because of the ‘pussyfooting around’ and failure to call ‘a spade a spade’ by those who should have dealt with this abuse a lot sooner than they did.

        The NSPCC guy was a typical left wing moron who will never break out of his mindset to deal with this problem. When you hear the excuses he comes out with, even arguing with the Imam – the EXPERT in front of him, rather than have to acknowledge the particular Muslim mindset and the PC mentality that allowed this scum to continue their foul deeds for so long.

        You can hear the clip here.

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  2. noggin says:
    July 24, 2014 at 11:29 pm

    D Murray, straight talk and a few “home truths” over
    the absurd level of media bias on Gaza –
    Place that in comparison with Jon “poor Palestinians” Snow
    on Ch4 news, tonight whining “this is an interview not a lecture” as the Israeli Rep plays a blinder, hilariously Snow then proceeds to try and lecture him :-D, with disastrous result, (comedy gold),

    http://youtu.be/-O3T1KAIKMI

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  3. noggin says:
    July 24, 2014 at 11:39 pm

    Yigal Palmor, schools Jon Snow

    http://bcove.me/cw8cqoaz

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    • Merched Becca says:
      July 25, 2014 at 1:00 am

      So, what is our ‘British’ Prime Minister doing about the BBC ?
      Bring on Farage I say.

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    • Alan Larocka says:
      July 25, 2014 at 9:33 am

      Snow is the most effective tool for recruiting and radicalizing young muslims in the UK.

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    • bogtrott says:
      July 25, 2014 at 12:00 pm

      what a nasty piece of shit jon snow is.He didn’t listen never does.What will he say when it is proved by the UN that Hamas has been doing exactly what Israel has said.Will he apologize.I Think not.

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  4. Edited Highlights says:
    July 25, 2014 at 6:15 am

    Same story about the recent IMF growth predictions for the UK. Different news headlines sourced from UK based media. Guess what the BBC chose to highlight?!! (Clue: Not the UK growth!)

    Osboure: IMF Upgrade
    IMF Upgrade for UK as Russian Growth Sinks
    Britain is fastest growing economy in the developed world: IMF upgrades forecast for UK again
    IMF predicts UK GDP growth rate will hit 3.2% by year end
    IMF lowers global growth forecast
    IMF: UK Growth to ‘Outstrip Other Leading Economies’

    I used to think the BBC took its editorial lead from The Guardian. I think it’s worse than that, it must be the Socialist Workers Party by now.

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    • Thoughtful says:
      July 25, 2014 at 12:51 pm

      It might be said that the BBC have been slow on this article, but they’ve certainly been pushing it today.

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  5. joeb says:
    July 25, 2014 at 8:15 am

    Did I just hear this right? Anyone else?

    ‘Today’, 8:12, “plenty of killing to coincide with the end of the holy month of Ramadan”.

    Surely I’m hearing things?

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  6. George R says:
    July 25, 2014 at 8:42 am

    Beeboids and Illegal Immigration reports.

    1.) ‘Sky News’-

    “Illegal Immigrants Caught Trying To Leave UK”

    http://news.sky.com/story/1307223/illegal-immigrants-caught-trying-to-leave-uk

    2.) Beeboids:-

    “Minister’s illegal immigrant cleaner arrest criticised”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28417466

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  7. noggin says:
    July 25, 2014 at 9:10 am

    BBC Radio 4
    More “Toady” Ramadung Islamophillia…
    puff piece about some “useful idiot” Rabbi who couldn t wait to fast in solidarity for Ramadung … ( shakes head).
    Maybe he should explain his interfaith sycophancy to
    … those Jews trapped by the rioting muslim hate mob, in Paris?,
    … or to the 1000s of the new muslim “hitler youth” in Germany,?
    … or ask Hamas, if they could sing “Kumbaya” with him?,
    … or ISIS where they would like him to put his Synagogue?
    … or Boko Haram?
    … or Al Qaida?

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    • noggin says:
      July 25, 2014 at 9:33 am

      he could always go to Malmo, for a break
      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/29/hate-crimes-force-jews-out-of-malmo/

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28148324
      Rabbi Natan Levy, 40
      “He told the Jewish News he was motivated to take part after a young Jew panicked when he saw a devout Muslim at the synagogue he attends. The incident resulted in security having to be called”.
      “Rabbi Levy, from Edgware, north London, said he was “frustrated” at what he saw as a lack of engagement between Jews and Muslims and wanted to “create a touchstone for conversation”.

      (yeah relax eh!… whatever gave this chap an idea that something could happen)

      ‘Rise in attacks’ on British Jews
      The Community Security Trust, a charity working to protect Jews in the UK, says more than 250 anti-Semitic incidents were recorded in four (Ramadan?) weeks.
      They include property vandalism, verbal threats and some physical attacks, most of which centred on north London. (including a synagogue fire)
      The same period (Ramadan?) last year saw just 27 incidents, according to the trust.
      Among the crimes recorded by the trust were violent street assaults, hate e-mails and graffiti threatening British Jews.
      There was one report of an arson attack on a synagogue in Brondesbury, north-west London, and other cases of racist graffiti and young groups chanting anti-Semitic slogans. The trust says schoolchildren have also been singled out for verbal abuse and bullying”

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  8. Pounce says:
    July 25, 2014 at 9:28 am

    The bBC has an article on the changing face of protest and one of the images on the article caught my eye.
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  9. Umbongo says:
    July 25, 2014 at 9:45 am

    What are the Israelis thinking of? If they wish to mount an effective defence – or attack – on Today there is no point choosing to put someone (metaphorically or actually) in front of Humphrys whose effectiveness is blunted? The (deputy?) foreign minister of Israel interrogated by Humphrys this morning was on a muffled line from Israel and spoke English – although fluently – in a heavy accent. Whatever he said, it took a real effort to understand and thus his message – to anyone who might have been interested – went undelivered or only partially delivered.
    Mark Regev, for instance, is very effective but he is, after all, only a spokesman. He is not responsible, even partially, for Israeli policy and has to, I guess, hit the ball back to Humphrys, Maitlis et al with the bat he’s been allowed to use. Assuming the BBC allows Israel to choose who represents it at the BBC microphones, there are (I guess again) plenty of “official” Israelis over here who speak fluent unaccented English and could give Humphrys as good as they get. It mystifies me that Israel doesn’t use them.

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  10. Umbongo says:
    July 25, 2014 at 10:05 am

    In its broadcast news the BBC trumpets (sort of) the growth in GDP. Unfortunately, and unusually I’m with the Guardian here, there is no mention of GDP/head which is still lower than in the glory days when Labour was in the process of ruining the economy and BTW producing figures for GDP which were supported by, for instance, what turned out to be non-existent profits produced by the banks.
    Under normal circumstances you would expect the BBC to run with the bad (or not so good news) especially where it could help its friends Labour and damage Osborne. That is, until you look at the denominator of that fraction and thus why GDP/head growth is disappointing. It’s more or less down to unprecedented population growth (and that growth is not from fecund white indigenes). No wonder the BBC is . . er . . quietly understated about this.

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  11. Steve Jones says:
    July 25, 2014 at 10:46 am

    Robert Peston is having to eat the mother of all sh*t sandwiches here and he doesn’t like it:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28417993

    The UK’s economy has finally clawed its way above the level it was at before ZanuLabour destroyed it. The BBC is desperate to play this good news down ahead of the general election. Reading the comments posted under the article, particularly the most popular ones, it is almost as if there is an orchestrated effort to portray the population as unimpressed. That couldn’t happen…surely.

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    • An English Gentleman says:
      July 25, 2014 at 1:06 pm

      Yes, I agree. One can envisage Peston screwing his nose up as he has to press the keys to type the report which as usual is completely anti. Why do the bbbc have these truly awful creatures as their ‘experts’……….Evan Davis, Orla Guerin, Robert Peston, Jeremy Bowen, Mishal Hussain, that truly awful character on the Today programme with the scottish accent. They have been doing this crap for years and years and years who can forget the moment when the bbbc reporter wept at the funeral of arafat, calling him a true great statesman…..I thought he was a terrorist

      All of them people one just wouldn’t want to be seen dead in their company.

      People, I really do believe would be much more supportive of the bbbc if they were to report things factually and for the benefit of the general population. Still, I expect that is a pipe dream as ‘anti’ everything is in the dna of the bbbc

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  12. Old Timer says:
    July 25, 2014 at 11:19 am

    A petition to ban the burka.
    By Muslims would you believe?
    https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/67853
    You know the BBC will approve of course.

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    • MartinW says:
      July 25, 2014 at 1:17 pm

      [I copy this from the top of the page] I wholeheartedly support the motion that the burka should be banned everywhere in public in the UK. [Of course, the egregious Mrs May, aided and abetted by Featherstone, disagreed]. However, even though Dr Hargey is reported to be a ‘moderate’ (whatever that is supposed to mean in islam), data including e-mail addresses from this survey will be widely accessed, and will very likely will find its way into the hands of those with a malign view. Frankly, I trust no-one in the Islamic community, and will not sign this petition.

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  13. bogtrott says:
    July 25, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    got a better idea ban the Muslims.

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    • Mark says:
      July 25, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      I wouldn’t go as far as banning them, but Muslims should be forced to sign a declaration of obedience deference to BRITISH law only (founded on Judeo-Christian principles), and not a law based on the teachings of a 7th century brigand.

      Also, taqiyya (lying to non-Muslims) should not be tolerated among all the other backward stuff in that book of oppression alias the Qur’an.

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  14. AsISeeIt says:
    July 25, 2014 at 12:37 pm

    In a week when the leftist Guardian says this….

    ‘..when the good engines pump out white smoke and the bad engines pump out black smoke – and they are all pumping out smoke – it’s not hard to make the leap into the race territory’

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/22/thomas-the-tank-engine-children-parents

    The BBC decides to highlight this….

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28464009

    ‘A Conservative MP has spoken of his belief in astrology’

    (And the BBC has opened it comments)

    So much idiocy these days and yet the BBC seems to shy away from ever exposing the Leftist berks.

    I’ll leave the last words to the Guardian – poor little Thomas is under attack here but think BBC when you read these lines…

    ‘…looks can be deceiving: the constant bent of messages about friendship, work, class, gender and race sends my kid the absolute wrong message.’

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  15. Thoughtful says:
    July 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm

    Why the ‘recovery’ is not as good as you might think.

    Of course GDP is a meaningful figure, and so is the growth rate, however they are not the only metrics, and they present a very misleading picture.

    Income per capita and GDP per capita are equally important, and they unfortunately aren’t anything like as healthy.

    So how have the Tories managed to achieve this seeming impossibility?

    Simples ! immigration is the answer, and since the banking crisis the population has grown by a whopping 2 million!
    It still has a positive effect on the figures if nearly all of them claim benefits, and shows one of the reasons why immigration is so popular for politicians.

    It’s a short term gain of course but that’s how politicians think. Last year alone Camoron allowed in 550 000 immigrants. The more he lets in the better the figures appear without any meaningful benefit to the country as a whole.

    This is why most people are not seeing any rise in living standards, because the growth has simply been spread over more people.

    Don’t trust the Tories or the figures, because they’ve been deliberately engineered to mislead.

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  16. Zebedee Melcrunch says:
    July 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm

    This Midweek Open Thread is refreshing in that it is not limited to things Israel/Palastine.

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