30 Responses to AYE/NAW THREAD

  1. Matthew says:
    September 18, 2014 at 7:27 pm

    If Scotland does go independent, hopefully there’ll be a leftie brain drain to the new Scotland, led by Billy Bragg and other assorted lefties, as they seek the socialist utopia.

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    • Guess Who says:
      September 18, 2014 at 7:41 pm

      Oddly, the desire to actually be close to such nirvanas created, or cherished, or lauded, etc, often seems furthest from the minds of such folk when a few realities crop up.

      But they still do seem keen to see their experiments shared and embraced by those less able than them to be isolated from adverse consequences.

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    • stewart says:
      September 18, 2014 at 8:13 pm

      Well Scotland is even ‘whiter’ than Dorset so it would be par for the course.
      What’s the gaelic for hypocrite?

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  2. Sandal-wearing, Guardian-reading cultural theorist and sociologist says:
    September 18, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    If the Scots choose independence then they’ll be filing for bankruptcy after 48 hours.

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  3. Mice Height says:
    September 18, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    Message to the BBC – The ‘far right’ didn’t decapitate David Haines, nor rape 1400 girls in Rotherham
    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/18/Memo-to-the-BBC-the-far-right-did-not-decapitate-David-Haines-or-rape-1400-girls-in-Rotherham

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  4. roland says:
    September 18, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    my mate works in ladbrokes bookmakers,just told me no more bets being taking,the no vote has won easily by a 6% margin.

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    • uncle bup says:
      September 18, 2014 at 10:11 pm

      Your mate should have more sense. Twenty past ten thursday night Betfair have £60,000 available to be taken at 1.17 on No..

      Dead certs on Betfair are 1.01 not 1.17

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  5. chrisH says:
    September 18, 2014 at 9:40 pm

    The BBCs bias in favour of the perpetual good rebellion is obvious.
    Having some kind of self-regard as a “news-gathering organisation”, means that it needs the likes of Salmond, Owen Jones and Mark Duggan…for these people are the Star Children of the Revolution…with all Marc Bolans depth, but without his facility with a guitar.
    The BBC NEED the Good Rebellion…consolidation is death, caution is despised…if there`s not blood on the streets,perpetual ferment among the agitprop militias then they`ve failed to get those pictures to show Juncker for the nest tranche of quisling funds.
    The BBC stab this country in the back with Jenni Murrays grannys old knitting needles…and we`re too chicken to face them down and pack them off to Mecca/Gaza/Caracas/Guadalajara…wherever their smug arses might best be put to the testing…

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  6. stuart says:
    September 18, 2014 at 10:52 pm

    just watched sky news,they are predicting the no vote to win by a landslide,do you get the feeling that this whole independence vote shambles was hyped up by the media into making us think it was a close race,the outcome was always going to be the no vote winning easily.all that will happen tomorrow is alot of people up there in scotland will have alot of very bad hangovers for nothing really,thats that.

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    • GCooper says:
      September 18, 2014 at 11:00 pm

      Sadly, I doubt this will shut the head-bangers up.

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    • Guess Who says:
      September 18, 2014 at 11:08 pm

      They could be right, and I’ll hit the sack to sleep sounder on that basis. We’ll see.

      As to hangovers, it’s hard to see such as Salmond, Cameron or Miliband come out of this smelling too sweet, and that can only be icing.

      And then there’s the cherry. Having initially toyed with their affections and then spurned them when things took a serious turn, if things do not go as the Yes bloc had hoped, and the blame game starts, it could be the BBC sees a significant dip in loyal unique funders North of the Border.

      That might be quite a result too.

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    • Roland Deschain says:
      September 18, 2014 at 11:41 pm

      Well, if it was all a ruse to make it look close it’s going to have far-reaching effects on the whole UK. It forced the Three Stooges Cameron, Clegg and Miliband to make rash promises about what Scotland will get without consulting politicians outside Scotland whose constituents might just have an opinion about it.

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      • Merched Becca says:
        September 19, 2014 at 12:00 am

        Roland Deschain my old boy, I hope you are bloody right.
        But what a good name for our present leaders ‘The Three Stooges’!
        Bring on Farage and the UKIP and get Britain Great again !

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      • pah says:
        September 19, 2014 at 11:07 am

        No. I don’t believe the promises were rash for one minute.

        The inherent danger in either a yes or a no vote is what happens to England. Now the Sweaties have seen sense they get even more ‘extra’ powers which is bound to piss off the English, it’s already annoying me.

        So to assuage the English anger we will get ‘extra’ powers in the form of Regional Assemblies. The talking heads are already pushing this idea as a way forward on TV this morning.

        Now we’ve heard that song before and it sounds an awful lot like ‘Deutsche Deutsche über alles’.

        England will be divided into powerless and meaningless divisions, whilst the rest of the UK will get virtual autonomy under an umbrella for which we will all be competing so see which part of the country it shelters.

        Divide and Rule. Job done.

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        • feargal the cat says:
          September 19, 2014 at 11:55 pm

          Agreed, the only fair outcome is for England, not it’s EU appointed areas to have a parliament to match that of the Scots, Norn Irish and Welsh.

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  7. Demon says:
    September 19, 2014 at 8:45 am

    I’m not speculating which way the vote will go. But if the Yes vote wins people have said that Cameron should resign (others have added Clegg and Milliband too), so then what about if the vote is No?

    Salmond has organised this vote completely:- his choice of date was to coincide with a date in history that would inspire Scotch Nationalism; the vote was not a choice between “Do you want an independent Scotland” and “Do you want to stay in the Union”, it was “Yes” (a very positive word) and “No” (a very negative one); he arbitrarily allowed 16 and 17 year olds were to vote because they will tend to vote with their hearts rather than their heads.

    Not once has the BBC or other television stations pointed all this out, nor have they made great issue of the racism, violence and intimidation from the Yes camp. Nor has anyone pointed out that the rest of the UK should have had a say as a change would affect them too. (We keep being told that it has nothing to do with England, so why have our television screens been full of it for so long.) The Nazionalists have had it all their own way.

    With all this gerrymandering, Salmond should resign if the vote is No even to the narrowest of margins.

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  8. s.trubble says:
    September 19, 2014 at 10:26 am

    Over 2 million of us saw through the nationalist illusion.
    The gap which was never any less than 10% was sustained in the end despite the shambles of the bBBC hosted second debate which led to the dodgy poll and the media hype.

    Thanks should be attributed to messrs Sillers and Canavan
    ( the cordorouys) for painting such a perfect socialist landscape forcing enough of us away from the mars bars to record this historic vote of No Thanks.

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  9. Pollystuscanyvilla says:
    September 19, 2014 at 11:32 am

    The opinion polls went mad after the badly run debate between Darling and Salmond. Which in turn frightened the complacent three at Westmister and thus gave the Scots more powers if they said No. Now they have said No. Now to help sugar the pill we the English may well have regional devolved powers. Which no one seems to want and will make the English weaker breaking England in to small regions (the buffoon Prescott once wanted this but no one wanted it then either)

    My point? Who organised the crap head to head between Darling and Salmond? Step forward the Balkanising Britain Corporation.

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  10. Sir Arthur Strebe-Grebling says:
    September 19, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    Pure bBBC. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-29130277
    Actor John Hannah tonight told The One Show he would also like to see David Cameron resign.
    Mr Hannah said: “It would be nice of him [David Cameron] to follow suit”.
    “I think one of the things that we’ve learnt about this is that 97% of the electorate in Scotland voted because they weren’t happy with Westminster.”
    The bBBC give an unknown actor a slot on prime-time TV to spout leftie opinions. Nothing new there then.

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  11. George R says:
    September 19, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    SALMOND, SNP censor media.

    Will BBC-NUJ protest, or are its protests only politically reserved for Al Jazeera people propagandising for Muslim Brotherhood ?
    Excerpt from ‘Telegraph’ (£):-

    “Journalists from the The Herald, The Daily Record, the Times, the BBC, The Courier, Channel Four News, STV, The Sun and BBC Newsnight were allowed to attend.
    “Along with The Telegraph, journalists from the Daily Mail and the Daily Express were also not invited.
    “The Guardian did not send a reporter after the First Minister’s office attempted to nominate which reporter could be sent.
    Severin Carrell, The Guardian’s Scotland correspondent, said: ‘The Guardian declined its place at Alex Salmond’s post #indyref press conference after Scottish Govt insisted on picking Guardian reporter.’
    “Alan Rodin, the Scottish Daily Mail’s Political Editor, said: ‘Mail, Telegraph & Express excluded from Alex Salmond’s press conference. Guardian has turned down invite after Govt handpicked a journalist.’”

    -from-

    “Telegraph reporters barred from Alex Salmond’s resignation press conference”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11110051/Telegraph-reporters-barred-from-Alex-Salmonds-resignation-press-conference.html

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  12. George R says:
    September 19, 2014 at 10:13 pm

    A portent of what awaits in a putative ‘independent’ dictatorial Scottish government.

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  13. George R says:
    September 21, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    “Will no one stop the march of localism?
    Scotland’s vote feels like a beginning, not an ending.
    But how many levels of overpaid functionaries does a country need?”

    By Jonathan Meades.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/will-no-one-stop-the-march-of-localism-9746327.html

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