Danny Cohen tells us that the BBC is an intrinsic part of the democratic process…I think it could be argued that it is the opposite and indeed encourages and supports terrorists and race hustlers who are intent on creating racial and religious conflict where they can for their own political purposes.
The BBC gave blanket coverage to the killing in Ferguson of a black thug by a white police officer and yet ignored the brutal murder of a white man by a gang of non-white youths who beat him to death with hammers.
The BBC still hasn’t reported on that savage killing…however they do try to play politics with it….trying to make out that any criticism of the lack of coverage is merely a ‘conservative’, right wing conspiracy theory that is completely unjustified in this ironic article…..
Are the media ignoring another St Louis killing?
The BBC completely accepts, without evidence, that the thug who died in Ferguson was killed purely because he was black. The white officer was clearly racist in their opinion….when as said, there’s no evidence of that at all.
Well, slavery may have long gone, but apprehending someone because they could be up to no good, simply because they’re black is still police policy in much of the land.
The killing in St Louis of white man is automatically assumed to have no racial motive, and it probably hasn’t, but that isn’t the point…the point is the BBC’s different reaction to both stories.
Today we have Ferguson all over again with the BBC giving yet more blanket coverage to the death of a black man when being arrested by white police officers….a white man’s life is obviously worthless to the BBC.
The BBC one again reports this from one point of view…that if a black man dies being arrested by white police officers those officers killed him because he was black….the BBC totally accepts the premise that the officers are racist.
The BBC has been reporting all day on the radio that the police had the man in a chokehold and he died because of it… they have been playing a recording of the arrest and misled listeners to believe that the alleged ‘chokehold’ is still in place when the man says repeatedly ‘I can’t breathe’ and was the cause of his death.
The video of the arrest shows that the hold was in place the first time the man gave a strangulated cry that he couldn’t breathe and the officer released the hold but Eric Garner continued to say, loudly and clearly, that he couldn’t breathe as the officers restrained him….but why was he having trouble breathing?
The death is unfortunate but the main cause of death, as the BBC reports, was…..
The city’s medical examiner’s office found in the summer that Mr Garner’s death was caused by “the compression of his chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police”.
Also….and not reported by the BBC….
Garner’s acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease were contributing factors, the medical examiner determined.
The BBC merely says….
The detainee, who is asthmatic, can be heard shouting repeatedly, “I can’t breathe!”.
The BBC places undue emphasis on the chokehold…
New York’s medical examiner had already ruled that the death of Eric Garner was a homicide, and that the chokehold contributed to it.
Yes, indeed he did say that…but as shown above he said a lot more besides which show that the chokehold wasn’t the main cause of death, if a cause at all…..so why is the BBC still associating the ‘chokehold’ with his death and emphasisng it above all else?… the chokehold was said to be a contributory factor…but as he died a while after the hold was used, and used for a short period, that must be a minimal factor…his own heatlh problems being the relevant factor.
Eric Garner death: What next for the chokehold?
Eric Garner was being arrested for selling cigarettes illegally on the street and from the video you can hear he has been, at the very least, advised not to continue with that trade in the past….he then resists arrest and the officers apply the hold to restrain him.
Would they have done that if he was white? The BBC is suggesting not…but on what evidence? Eric Garner was a large man and not too happy in the video, he wasn’t going to ‘come quietly’….were the police supposed to just walk away because he was black?
This is not evidence of white police officers being racist but of the BBC’s own racism in their assumption that the police were racist. It is also evidence of the BBC’s own tendency, a dangerous one, to incite racial conflict and inflame tensions…..undoubtedly this will be getting a large audience in Black communities in the UK and will be feeding into that grievance mindset with a stereotype fed to them by the likes of the BBC that white people are all racist and out to oppress them.
Note that the man reporting this:
Will black Americans finally get a fair deal?
Well, slavery may have long gone, but apprehending someone because they could be up to no good, simply because they’re black is still police policy in much of the land.
…is the BBC’s Clive Myrie…..
And note the BBC’s reporting of the verdict of ‘homicide’ on the death of Eric Garner…
New York’s medical examiner had already ruled that the death of Eric Garner was a homicide, and that the chokehold contributed to it.
To you and me that means murder…but not to the medical examiners….
“Homicide” in this context doesn’t mean what you think. It’s one of five categories medical examiners use to label causes of death and it indicates that “someone’s intentional actions led to the death of another person,” says Gregory G. Davis, president of the National Association of Medical Examiners. The other four labels are suicide, accident, natural, and undetermined, Davis says.
‘Intentional actions’ does not mean ‘intending to kill’…but their intent to restrain leading to the death…even if an accidental and unintended result.
The BBC’s use of that word without explanation of the context can only lead to the wrong impression of the verdict on the police’s action..careless use of words or intended by the BBC?
“Race wars” also in the Labour party it seems from their North London branch….Isn’t that Islington?
Something you’ll never hear about on the ghastly BBC…
http://nopenothope.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/london-labour-ukip-full-of-money.html
Dez – Deal with the thrust of the report – the BBC is not giving a COMPLETE report of what happened. Like on the midnight Radio 4 news just now they clearly implied that the headlock was kept on after the man said he had difficulty breathing.
If you can’t deal with that main point – piss off and stop being such a creep.
My comment seems to have been removed. Alan, I’ll be ever so polite… Would you care to expand what you mean by:
“Note that the man reporting this:… …is the BBC’s Clive Myrie…..” ?
“Note that the man reporting this:… …is the BBC’s Clive Myrie…..” ?
No answer.
Always good to see BiasedBBC shuffle on past and look the other way whenever Alan accidentally makes his inherent racism blatantly obvious.
“Note that the man reporting this:… …is the BBC’s Clive Myrie…..” ?
No answer.
Always good to see BiasedBBC shuffle on past and look the other way whenever Alan accidentally makes his inherent racism blatantly obvious.
It;s dez the Night Stalker wondering why people ignore his stupid comments
Dez – does the BBC pay you triple time for nught work at the weekend ?
Dez, there should be a version of Godwin’s law to cover accusations of racism. It’s far easier than having to engage in a discussion.
Ponder this though, as I understand it the officer who restrained Garner did so at the express instruction of a black superior. Why then are the BBC feeding the allegations that race was involved? Is their choice of reporter accidental or do some think it is a good thing to send a black reporter to cover alleged racism? Isn’t that rather insulting to Myrie?
the bbc producers last night must of been sitting in there office thinking about what angle to take on this eric garner death which no doubt is shocking and the lad did not deserve that,but many white people have died at the hands of the rogue police officers in america,but as night followed day the bbc decided to make these eric garner another race story where white policeman chokes unarmed black to death just to bring to racial element into this story where there is no evidence at all race was involved, but that does not please the race baiters and husters does it,yes all we have heard all day and no doubt in the next few days will be white policeman kills unarmed black man and it goes on and on until they find another white policeman to hang out and dry as a racist,just sickening all these race baiters,on a more positive story that the bbc did not give much time to is the rejection of the court of appeal by the judges who decided that the 2 black muslim knife and machete killers of the white unarmed soldier lee rigby face the certain prospect of dying in there dirty beetle and cockroach infested cells in bellmarsh,may the pair of you cowards rot in hell.
You make good points.
There are millions of folk. Most will be law-abiding; some will not. There will, inevitably, be enforcement officers who are prone to excess, and if beyond reason they need holding to account. But as with fogs of war, applying the niceties of the cocktail circuit to a street brawl, carefully editing in and out what suits, does justice more to the cause of raising the temperature than shining light.
I am perplexed at the selectivity being shown by the MSM in general, and the BBC in particular. Are they drawn like moths, or invited over by these mysterious PR conduits they have forged?
The US population seems to inspire more than its fair share of violence and mayhem, but what gets the British state media over to such selective outposts of outrage, often created more by clashes escalating between lawbreakers and the law, with colour secondary or irrelevant?
Meanwhile, as all this gets masticated to puree in the production offices and edit suites of W1A, I see little interest cast East, say to Pakistan.
There it goes beyond police reacting in the moment. There women are under threat of jail, or death, by the entire politico-legal system; for the ‘crimes’ of not thinking or saying out loud hive-approved notions about the local sky fairy.
And this is the country the UK PM is sending hundreds of millions we don’t have to do what now?
Get a grip, BBC. And try and discover an actual sense of proportion. Along with a moral compass governed by rational concerns, not driven by pin-head student activist ideologies.
The nationwide protests have something to do with it.
Aye, they do indeed. They are proof that fostering a grief and victimhood culture – as the BBC does in spades – brings division and violence on a massive scale.
There is a fundamental problem with this thread – the issue is not the alleged racism of the (multiple heavily armed) US Police forces- it is the very aggressive and high handed – “above the law’ – behaviour of those forces. The BBC apparently chose only to highlight the death of black people and ignore the litany of judicial shootings that seem to be common practice in the USA where the average number of “justifiable homicides” by law enforcement bodies is 400 per year.
http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/14/why-did-a-culpepper-cop-kill-a-retired-s
The police there seem to deploy extreme violence at the least provocation – jay walkers beaten
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542499/Man-left-beaten-bloodied-jaywalking-85-year-old-doesnt-understand-English.html
The real issue is not one of race but one of general oppression of all races It looks from the outside like some of these police forces are out of control…
So, yet again, the narrow juvenile obsessions of the BBC serve only to cloud more serious issues.
I wonder if they are being played, or are complicit, willing players?
Time again to consider who serves the public and is worth supporting. And who seems a very expensive, divisive distraction tool.
The BBC care about white victims of policing in the US as much as they care about black victims of malaria in Africa.
If it doesn’t feed the narrative it’s ignored.
Yes, the faux-environmental protests against the use of DDT, and its subsequent ban, was far more important – think Leftie Top Trumps – than several million third world lives, and remains so.
As anyone who watches any American film or TV series made in the last thirty years knows, all American judges[*] are black and have ‘attitude’.
Heaven help any ‘white’ police officer who ends up on trial!
[* As are all senior police officers, which is remarkable as all the black ‘rookies’ get shot so never even make it to sergeant!]
Except for Judge Judy obviously.
I thought he was talking fictionalised characters – you know, where Hollywood & co. can set whatever narrative they want in their choice of roles – as opposed to a real judge, which she is.
A UK Die-In has been called by the NUS Black Students and all, supported by BBC luvvie’s Left Unity and the usual rentacrowd. I see the police and the KKK are regarded as some kind of unity. BBC will be happy to keep them misinformed.
https://www.facebook.com/events/294598964082684/
Still in the US, and thus not in constant contact with BBC content, but did the BBC report that the senior police officer presiding at the arrest of this 25 stone lightweight, with pretty serious health, and particularly respiratory, difficulties, who had 31 previous arrests, and knew exactly what the form would be if he resisted address, was, in fact, an ‘African-American’, and clearly saw no ‘racist’ influence whatsoever in the arrest process ?
I suspect that’s one of the simple facts that didn’t make the headlines.
Where’s Dez?
I’ll believe America isn’t racist the day they elect a black man president …
Half way there then.
I’m an ex-pat living in America and shocked by the BBC’s biased reporting of events concerning the protests of the deaths by police in NY and Ferguson. Whilst there is plenty of room for discussion concerning some police officers who use excessive force, not all cases are racist. African Americans are more likely to resist arrest because they are brought up to believe they are victims. Anyone who resists arrest will invariably be subjected to a force necessary to subdue them.
Both individuals who died were large and strong individuals who resisted arrest, and in the case of Ferguson there is sufficient evidence to suggest the officer was attacked.
It seems the BBC are only interested in interviewing anarchists and those with a political agenda to promote their shameful sensationalism of this topic.
see also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D-WDc7KAKQ
In general terms, I get the impression that American officials, and the armed forces for that matter, put more faith in overwhelming force than we do. I’ve had disputes with their immigration officials and it’s always quite clear that debate is not an option, even when they’re clearly in the wrong. You do as you are told and that is that.
As someone above has already pointed out, there are many examples of white people being treated the same way.
Just an impression. I have some experience of America and have family there but I don’t actually live there, so I’m happy to be corrected.
The Americans have their system of accountability and it isn’t broken. They have a more democratic system than we have in the UK, they also have more violence and more people and more armed police and so more police shootings.
The BBC and the rest of the British establishment needs to get over the American Revolution where a majority of colonists fought for their historic rights and liberties as Britons against a remote, autocratic and foreign born king. Their system works. Where in the US has anything like Hillsborough or Rotherham happened?
I think you’ll find violence against the person (per thousand of population) is more prevalent in England and Wales than in the US. It’s their gun laws that make all the difference.
Excluding homicide.
It’s difficult to make an accurate comparison because definitions differ widely. For instance:
FBI website, “violent crime”:
“In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.”
Crime in England and Wales 2010/11: Findings from the British Crime Survey and police recorded crime (2nd Edition):
“Violent crime contains a wide range of offences, from minor assaults such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious incidents of wounding and murder. Around a half of violent incidents identified by both BCS and police statistics involve no injury to the victim.”
‘The BBC completely accepts, without evidence, that the thug who died in Ferguson was killed purely because he was black.’
Provide the evidence for this.
Your description of the video is pretty ludicrous. Apparently his death had little to do with the choke hold, the pinning him to the ground or kneeling on his head….no, he was fat and he had asthma! And that isnt much of a resitance to arrest was it?
Please stop race hustling Alan.
Jerry are you being serious or just provocative?
“‘The BBC completely accepts, without evidence, that the thug who died in Ferguson was killed purely because he was black.’
Provide the evidence for this.”
The BBC hammers home the construction white police officer shoots unarmed black teenager. What’s race got to do with it? Everything it seems to the BBC. Or why don’t they refer to the victim as a robber, or unemployed youth, or 6’5″ gang member? No, it’s unarmed black teenager. And why is the only thing they hammer about the policeman the fact that he is white. What has that got to do with it?
You do the math.
Eh, perhaps you’re not familiar with the protests in Ferguson that followed, the intervention of various politicians, the current conversation in the US etcb etc.
I don’t know…I think there should be an IQ test before you qualify for a tv licence sometimes.
“I think there should be an IQ test before you qualify for a tv licence”
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Distinct possibilities here.
Qu. 76 – A dodgy ‘investigative’ outfit comes to you with a claim from a single source that is damaging to a political foe. Do you:
A) Invest 10p checking veracity.
B) Rush to air. Secure in the knowledge that even after a £3M internal investigation, all who have sidestepped on full pay can soon ooze back in to market rate duty.
Qu. 123 – A senior member of editorial posts a stupid tweet betraying rampant political bias. Do you:
A) Fire her professionally compromised tush.
B) Claim ‘views her own’, but make a show of popping her in another room to fester until it’s all forgotten about and she can sneak back to work her magic?
There can of course be plenty more.
How answered can decide qualification for paying for a licence no matter what or… becoming one of an exclusive, even unique bunch who get paid from this revenue, no matter what.
Jerry, you have hit on something.
Jerry – the BBC ran it’s ‘line to take’ right from the start and has never deviated. Subsequent riots and the findings of the Grand Jury made no difference to the BBC’s interpretation of events.
‘Well, slavery may have long gone, but apprehending someone because they could be up to no good, simply because they’re black is still police policy in much of the land.’ (Where’s his evidence?)
And:
‘The video of the arrest shows that the hold was in place the first time the man gave a strangulated cry that he couldn’t breathe and the officer released the hold but Eric Garner continued to say, loudly and clearly, that he couldn’t breathe as the officers restrained him….but why was he having trouble breathing?’ (So Alan makes it clear he was subjected to further restraint techniques, but that it was both these and his medical conditions that contributed to his death.)
Interestingly, PM earlier in the week had an ex-Det Chief Inspector going through the video step by step who could see nothing wrong with the restraint techniques used after the chokehold – which he made clear is banned in the UK – and indeed emphasized how difficult it is to restrain someone who is determined not to be arrested, requiring an officer to pin each limb down and another to keep the head still. This smidgen of balance in the BBC’s coverage seemed then to get quickly forgotten about and every single report I’ve heard on the topic since has overwhelmingly reflected the BBC’s narrative that America has a massive ‘race problem’ (re-read first quote at this point).
There is a similar case going through our courts at the moment. This is the case of the man who was being deported and died on the plane. Of course in this country they are prosecuting (the Islington elite would not have it any other way). In my view anyone who gets injured resisting arrest contributes towards their problems.
The american was clearly resisting arrest, he knew the procedure as he had been arrested at least 30 times before. It is claimed he resisted because he is being harassed. The logic presumably being if I continually ignore the law you should give up arresting me as it is tiresome. The natural law here that I can see at work is Darwin’s, figure that one for yourselves.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/09/fbi-called-to-investigate-whether-attack-on-bosnian-woman-hate-crime/