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Why didn’t they play this on Radio 2 Country Week?
Well 5Live were at the races today, and it was ‘Ladies’ day’ at Cheltenham, ‘ladies’ note, not ‘wimmin’, a chance for ladies to dress up in their finery, while joining in the boozing, eating and havinga flutter, as well as watching the odd race.
But Auntie true to form was not happy at this very ethnic British event, and tried to stir dissatisfaction by getting all in a lather that there are very few wimmin jockeys, tediously banging on about the barriers to women jockeys, analysing the stories of the very few that have chosen the career and even going round asking young women if theyd like to ride in a race.
Sour grapes from the BBC. Ignore their bleating. Losing most sporting events now and Cheltenham is just another one. Sport and the BBC don’t really go together any more.
I would have thought that is how they like it. Boring bodysnatchers that they are.
“Jeremy Clarkson:
BBC left red-faced after airing Top Gear repeat in which host fantasizes
about punching man.”
(video clip.)
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-clarkson-bbc-left-red-faced-5315792?
“âMy children will be heartbroken if Top Gear is taken off airâ:
“Cameronâs bizarre intervention for âhuge talentâ Clarkson as Top Gear host heads to watch Chelsea football match”
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988412/Top-Gear-s-Jeremy-Clarkson-suspended-BBC-fracas-producer.html#ixzz3U7TNPmAx
This will be a great political incentive for Labourite leftist, Tony HALL,
who intervened in this case, to get rid of Clarkson.
Bizarre intervention? What a load of bollocks. This is what I absolutely hate about the dishonest media in Britain.
Sky are saying something similar adding that Cameron is supporting Clarkson and wants Top Gear back as soon as possible.
Cameron HAS NOT intervened. In a live interview on the BBC on Midlands Today, he was specifically ASKED to comment by the BBC. His response was neutral and bland in the extreme.
Watch it from about 08:15
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0546hdd/midlands-today-11032015
Intervention?!*? … don t make me laugh.
unless its to benefit himself or the Selfservative s,
he couldn t care less, if its to orchestrate
for his own benefit? money is no object anything else
… austerity.
Along with the ‘will say’, the ‘while we have you here’ is another sorry ‘news’ construction.
It’s a cheap no lose filler or agenda servant in the cycle, if hapless pols or those who love the sound of their own wisdom (so, all of them) can be seduced to provide a juicy sound bite via the editorial context-stripping machine.
I hark back to when politicians of class and brains knew how to treat such opportunistic tripe. That clip of Mrs. T refusing to hop was sublime. Not bland, but of no use to the kindergarden.
Cameron just jumped into the mire with both feet. Did Mr. PR not have an inkling how it would get used? Berk.
I would suggest that old episode was chosen deliberately to show what an “aggressive individual” Clarkson is and give more power to their attempts to oust him.
Can only imagine the hours in the bunker concocting such an unfortunate coincidence that would have them shocked… shocked they tell you, not to have noticed.
Given all this is bigger than one man, the forces marshalled on ousting him, at the expense of colleagues and contractual obligations now and elsewhere seems pretty personal and spiteful at best.
They really are a sack of rats indeed.
What the bBC don’t tell you: (Long)
March 11, 2015: ISIL is having problems with its foreign recruits. Many of them arrive with the intention of simply living in an âIslamic stateâ not fighting to expand that state. ISIL tried to accommodate the foreigners, lest they return home and report unfavorably about life in ISIL controlled territory. This led to foreign recruits getting better treatment (housing, food, access to âwivesâ and all manner of creature comforts. This, naturally, led to resentment by local (Syria and Iraq) recruits. That led to more locals deserting, joining the growing number of foreigners who simply walked away. Or tried to walk away as in late 20134 ISIL began accusing those who left of desertion and jailing or executing them. This inspired more (but better planned) desertions and growing dissent within both the ranks and among commanders. ISIL does want skilled foreigners in their caliphate but most of the foreign volunteers have no useful skills and ISIL seeks to use them as fighters or suicide bombers. Few people with useful skills are eager to join ISIL.
Internal criticism is not the only problem ISIL is facing in 2015. ISIL has recently suffered prominent defeats in Iraq and Syria as well as continued rebellions in both countries. Even the Syrian Army is retaking ground from ISIL. The Kurds are defeating ISIL forces outside Kobane in Syria and near the Iraq border. In Iraq Kurds, Iraqi soldiers and Sunni and Shia militias are both stopping ISIL attacks and pushing back ISIL forces outside of Mosul, Kirkuk and Tikrit. An offensive to retake Mosul is expected before June. Meanwhile air attacks not only continue but are more frequent and more damaging. This makes it more difficult to stockpile supplies or move large numbers of gunmen quickly. More leaders are being found and killed by these air attacks. Important economic targets like oil refineries are being destroyed. Inside the ISIL run âcaliphateâ (eastern Syria and western Iraq) there are growing shortages of everything and ISIL is finding that conquest is easier than running an economy. The economic problems fuel the rebellions and desertions and itâs a vicious circle that is destroying ISIL from within. The problem with ISIL is that so far it has solved its supply (logistical) problems via looting. But there has been no new conquests to loot for over six months and the stockpiles of plunder taken in 2014 is nearly exhausted. Itâs another example of the old military maxim, âamateurs study tactics while professionals study logistics.â The accountants always win in the end.
The forces arrayed against ISIL have a better grasp of the logistical problems and have done something with that awareness. Thus Kurdish and Iraqi forces operating along the border with Syria have cut the best supply routes between Syria and Iraq. ISIL can still move between these two areas but with greater difficulty (using more fuel and time to do so). Taking longer to travel puts ISIL more at greater risk of attack by coalition warplanes. Worse, it becomes impractical to move essential supplies (especially food and fuel) between Iraq and Syria. The increasingly effective air attacks have also made ISIL more paranoid. This has led to greater scrutiny of foreign recruits. That resulted in a recent video showing a 10 year old ISIL âcubâ shooting a kneeling foreigner in the head with a pistol. The executed man was a 19 year old Israeli Arab accused of spying for Israel. That is not completely unlikely but the Israelis donât usually recruits men this young or unreliable. The executed man was reported by his family to have joined ISIL in October 2014. His family opposed the move and stayed in touch via sell phone and the Internet. In early 2015 the family discovered that their son had been imprisoned by ISIL for trying to leave. Apparently someone at ISIL thought they could make something of this by accusing the teenager of espionage and executing him on video. ISIL is all about grabbing media attention but in this case they are not doing much to increase recruitment among Israeli Arabs or Palestinians. Other ISIL deserters have even worse situations. Many locals serving with ISIL who desert are already deserters from the Syrian security forces and those with families living in Syrian government controlled areas have nowhere to go and are subject to arrest and execution by both ISIL and the Syrian government. Most of these men join the growing number of Syrians leaving the country and heading for refugee camps in Turkey, Lebanon or Jordan.
The coalition air offensive has carried out over 2,600 air strikes since August 2014 and used over 3,000 smart bombs and missiles in those attacks. Even more worrisome is the increasingly aggressive anti-ISIL actions of neighboring nations. Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan have increased border security and in Lebanon the army has forced ISIL and other rebel groups out of bases they set up in Lebanon and back into Syria. Worse the Lebanese followed up this with more troops on the border in fortified camps. In other words the Lebanese are preparing to confront any attempts by Syrian rebels to move back into Syria. While the Jordanians are enraged and more active because ISIL murdered one of their F-16 pilots in January by burning him to death the Turks are more concerned with Kurdish separatism than any threat from ISIL or any other Islamic terrorists. The Turks have been dealing (often using great brutality) with murderous Arabs for centuries and the Arabs remember all that. As a result ISIL does not make any effort to expand into Turkey. For the Turks, their ugly treatment of Arabs in the past is still useful because many Arabs fear that the Turks would go all old school on them if sufficiently provoked.
Meanwhile the coalition assembled by the United States in mid-2014 continues to have problems because the Arab members cannot agree with each other on how to deal with ISIL. Some countries, like Qatar, have many citizens and leaders who approve of Islamic terrorism (although not ISIL, which even al Qaeda condemns). Arab oil states in the Persian Gulf are more concerned with Iran than with ISIL and criticize the United States for not sending ground troops back to Iraq to take care of ISIL. Many Arabs blame the United States for al Qaeda and ISIL despite the fact that such violent, xenophobic Islamic terror groups have been around for centuries, and the less violence majority of Moslems has never mustered the will to deal with this recurring problem once and for all.
ISIL also has to worry about some of its allies. In the last year ISIL has persuaded many Syrian Islamic terrorist rebels to switch sides. These Islamic terrorists joined the fight against ISIL in early 2014 but eventually agreed to put aside their differences and join ISIL in destroying the Assad government. These new allies still hate and wish to destroy ISIL, and now find that the Assad government has not been weakened much by this alliance and the Syrian Army is again on the offensive. The coalition air strikes, which should be directed at the Assads were instead concentrating on ISIL and those groups associated with ISIL. Thus a major ally of ISIL, al Qaeda affiliate al Nusra, recently lost its leader to a recent coalition air strike. There have been more air strikes this year, after ISIL released a video of a captured Jordanian pilot being burned to death. Groups like al Nusra, which used to get a lot of cash and other aid from wealthy Arab fans in Gulf oil states saw that disappear because of the grisly execution video. ISIL now has to plan for the growing possibility that al Nusra will change sides again, because ISIL is beginning to look like a loser and that is a death sentence for Islamic terrorists. As the popular Islamic saying goes; âGod wills it.â This describes fortune as well as failure, the blessed as well as the cursed.
ISIL savagery has led many of the minorities (especially Christians) that it loves to torment to stand and fight rather than flee. Thus in the northeast Christian militias have gotten stronger and joined forces with their sometimes (in the past) Kurdish allies to fight the common enemy. This is in response to a sharp increase in ISIL anti-Christian violence in late 2014. Many Christians are sticking around and fighting in part because ISIL has kidnapped over 200 local Christians (and some Kurds as well) in the last few months and is offering to return them for ransoms (cash or captive ISIL men or weapons). The cash ransoms demanded are not large (under $2,000 per person) but ISIL would rather get captives and weapons back. ISIL has growing shortages of cash, recruits and weapons. But many Christians and Kurds who have already lost kin do not want to make any deals with ISIL and would rather just kill the Islamic terrorists. Since the Kurds have air support, they are very good at that and ISIL is increasingly reluctant to get tied down in battles with Kurds. In addition to being skilled and disciplined fighters, the Kurds can eventually depend on help from above if a battle with ISIL drags on too long. But even the Syrian troops are betting better, apparently because of training, weapons and advice they are getting from Iran. The Lebanese Hezbollah are similarly unlikely to run away when they run into ISIL. The good old days of simply terrifying your opponent into fleeing appear to be over. In this case the good old days really were better, at least for ISIL.
On the Syrian border Israel is working more with Syrian rebels (except ISIL) to help stop Iran from establishing a presence in the area so they can launch attacks into Israel. Iranians have been bragging about doing this and Iran has sent more senior officers to work with Hezbollah and the Syrian Army efforts to clear all the rebels away from the Israeli border. Iran is also bringing in thousands of additional Iranian volunteers to join rebel militias in the fight against the rebels. Naturally the rebels oppose this Iranian effort and now see Israel as an ally. Israel has provided support for some rebels with the understanding that the rebels would not attack Israel and would help prevent anyone else from doing so. Thus Israel stays in contact with some Syrian rebels across its border, provides medical treatment (for over 2,000 rebels and civilians so far) and attacks Hezbollah and Syrian Army targets when there is any fire into Israel from the Syrian side. The rebels often provide Israel with data on where hidden Syrian Army or Hezbollah units are, providing Israeli warplanes and artillery with precise and conformed targets. While some of these âcooperative rebelsâ are Islamic radicals and will eventually turn on Israel if given a chance, for the moment the policy is âthe enemy of my enemy is my friend.â
Thank you for that Pounce, a succinct understanding of where we stand at the present time. Of course you are unpaid , just imagine if any paid news organisation in this country managed to acquire and disseminate the same information with infinitely more resources than you could ever hope to. All of them are guilty, from Sky through all the so called Fleet St “heavyweights ” to the black hole of understanding that is the bbc. All cover the refugees, the pornographic murders, the local connections to the exclusion of any proper understanding of just what the hell is going on and the likely trends to come. Everything is hand wringing and emoting, all set at the lowest common denominator. You with some inside understanding and knowledge of the practicalities of warfare are able to achieve far more, again well done. This ought to be reprinted where it can be seen by a far larger number of people who want to understand the situation on the ground.
Fantastic detailed analysis there Pounce.
Don’t forget the ISIS presence in Libya, where they are looking to take over oil production, and unlike in Syria, there is no one to stop them.
After the debacle at the G8 (?) where Camoron & other Western leaders were angling to support ISIS in Syria it was their arch enemy (probably because he is actually sane & able to see reality) Vladimir Putin who told the world what was actually going on there.
Fortunately Camoron was prevented from military adventuring in the Commons vote or we’d now be calling ISIS our allies !
“Donât forget the ISIS presence in Libya, where they are looking to take over oil production, and unlike in Syria, there is no one to stop them.”
ISIS/ISIL in Libya is just a convenience of name branding in which to look more powerful. At the end of the day, bloody thirsty Muslims can be found all across the world throughout time and none were called ISIS./ISIL
As for nobody is prepared to stop them, Italy is looking into sending in ground troops in which to take them on, I can only presume that this will entail support from Egypt,UAE,CHAD and Tunisia.
“After the debacle at the G8 (?) where Camoron & other Western leaders were angling to support ISIS in Syria “
I think you will find that they were trying to support other anti-government groups, but as I pointed out above all are the same no matter what they call themselves. So good point.
I think the point I was trying (badly) to make, is that ISIS might end up like ‘whaka mole’ where you kill it in one place only for it to pop up in another.
There are many quote on this kind of thing:
“A man may die, nations may rise and fall, but an idea lives on. Ideas have endurance without death.”
â John F. Kennedy
We have seen Al Qaeda cells pop up all over the world, and maybe ISIS will be the same. It might be best to contain it, and allow every Jihadi to go there, and inevitably be martyred. Better there than here !
Yes you have a point. However, what we are also seeing is the whole world turning against radical Islam. Remember from 2001 to 2011 Iran/Pakistan gave sanctuary to Al Q and the Taliban. now even those countries are turning against their little pop up moles.
The West which for years (Even between 2001 and 2011) turned a blind eye to radical Islam has said enough is enough and is clamping down on jihadists (Except the bBC and Guardian) but even more so, the people are saying enough is enough, read a few of the comments on the Guardians CIF to see that even the so called champions of freedom are saying enough is enough. I’m not saying it is going to be easy, but the West have finally accepted that the so called dictators in the Middle East aren’t as bad as the alternative.
Newsnight. 11/3/15. The decline continues. Enjoy (or not, if you prefer) my precis.
Opens with Clip of Spoonface âCall meâ Dave Cameron saying stuff before 2010GE (about how politicians are c*^ts who would act in self-interest if there is a coalition [Like they wouldnât if there wasnât]) , with an off the cuff quip from comrade Evan, âthe Tories are nasty fukka’s arenât they, you know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink winkâ. Natch.
Clarkson, yadda, yadda. So, who to ask on to discuss the âClarksongateâ phenomenon which the MSM have been under the influence of for more than 24Hrs flat? Eeny, meeny, miney, mo, catch the âŚâŚâŚ.Of course, Comrade Owen ‘MIA since Hebdo’ Jones invited to race/gender/age/wealth bait, and spout his divisive, Marxist, enslavement fascist agenda. Kirsty âpropert-ehâ Allsop showing some front, a modicum of common sense and memories (shock on Owenâs face) of childhood playground rhymes (âŚeeny meeny âŚ.) phased out by Common Purpose (and look at the precious little fascists that have been produced since!)
Owen really canât get his head round the whole âbeing your own manâ thing. Being confident of surviving without somebody âgivingâ you a job, or being in control of you. Hive mind personified. He really is a caricature. An infusion of confusion and oratory, flavoured with a pungency of spite and hate, bottled in a shroud of moral relativism, boxed in gleaming absolute self-righteousness and sealed from the real beauty of freedom and kindness by the cellophane of the educational institutions and upbringing that polluted his limited mind. Bullshit Paralympics talk-athon gold medallist, leftard sub-division. Iâd be happy to take a sacking for punching that c*^tâs lights out. I guess I’m not the only one. That said, I’d re-employ myself the next day.
Followed by the bright young Duncan, introducing the concept that the US dollar (whoâd-a-thunk it) may be weakening (Ya donât say)! Further developments in due course as another crack appears in the Federal Reserve Ponzi scheme (Good job the sheeple are so f^{king thick!).
Any news of developments in Greece? No. What, nothing on the threats to arm shed loads of immigrants with European papers and a bus ticket to Berlin? No. What, nothing on the âwar reparationsâ outstanding from WWII? No.
But we have coalition woesâŚ..lots of woesâŚ
âŚâŚAnd the polls showâŚâŚ Tories about 295 seats, Labour about 265, UKIP 1, âŚâŚ.
Oh! Brief clip of Field Marshall Farage with a cheeky grin and his âPeopleâs Armyâ one liner. Nice.
Capped off by a maths guru from France, who looked like he was in London to pull some pussy (or Evan??). Too clever for me, but Evan pretended to know what the f^{k to ask the dude. He could have asked (but didnât) how low the decline of Newsnight and the BBC could go. With a current BBC positive influence coefficient (BBC+IC) of (minus) -24.4% and falling, could social breakdown be achieved in the UK in an inverse exponential curve? Hyperbolic maybe? (Or as Jezza might not say) Discuss, you cheese eating surrender monkey maths guru!
Thinking about it, Newsnight was quite surreal entertainment tonight, with, thankfully, no âdrum-beating-witch-actâ as the credits role which we were treated to yesterday!
Scrap the Telly Tax and vote UKIP.
Outstanding piece of writing.
Too kind.
On The Daily Politics 11/3/15. Nice to see….
Brillo sporting his new UKIP polka dot jacket pocket ‘kerchief today on UKIP themed furniture. Nice, subliminal. Go Brillo! And Jo-Co must have got feedback to ease off with the red dresses – see through white blouse today!
Grant ‘sell sand to Arabs’ Shapps with evasive verbal diarrhoea.
Emma Reynolds. Labour automaton. The Labour Party really is an ideas vacuum. (And why do Labour women’s faces get more twisted and spiteful looking as they get older? (except hazel and guiselle maybe??)) I digress.
Brillo asks why Ed Miliband is ‘wheeling out his wife’. Eh, Emma? Nice one Brillo. As the youf might say, LMFAO!
Emma makes ‘newspeak’ noises: ….blah, blah, being nasty to Ed, blah, blah loves his family, bah, blah, relates to the man in the street,blah…. Emma of course can not answer the question truthfully :
“We in the Parliamentary Labour Party used to think Ed was a dangerous, incompetent, Marxist f$*kwit who couldn’t run the country. Now we think he’s a gutless, dangerous, incompetent, Marxist f$*kwit who couldn’t run a bath.” might not play too well ‘on the doorstep’ and ‘within the twittersphere’.
And nice to see on PMQ’s with ‘Spoonface’ Dave and ‘Special’ Ed showing what utter c*^ts they are, Douglas Carswell exposing the reality of the treachery that has been perpetrated against the people by their elected representatives through the ceding of the sovereignty of the people to foreign powers!
Vote UKIP. Common Sense Not Common Purpose. đ
The Beeb is leading with this anti UKIP article on the UK Politics section of its website.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31846453
Its about Nigel Farage’s comments on a Channel 4 documentary that nobody has seen yet, so given the very limited info provided its impossible to put any of what NF says in context and make up our own minds.
The sign off piece on the article is deliberately done to leave readers in no doubt that NF and UKIP are a racialist.
The ‘will say’ ‘news’ phenomenon is getting out of control.
It’s hard to see it as anything other than a means to give already too powerful propaganda edit suites time to work their magic. Context free.
In a world of exclusive obsessions and ratings hunger a degree of trailing around the media industry may make sense, but the drip feed of tasty morsels that serves common narrative purposes to tribal allies is hard to ignore.
Ah, yes – the BBC excel in clairvoyance.
It was also taken from a speech made last October/November – I don’t remember them mentioning that in the news reports today until Nigel finally managed to mention it himself (incidentally, it’s top of the list on Today, now…).
And anything Sadiq Khan objects to isn’t worth the bother, anyway. they hate UKIP, don’t they! Naughtie interviewed Nigel, and as usual despite Jim poking this way and that, Nigel STILL put up a reasonable and creditable performance, as he always does. And he’s quite right, too. British jobs for British folk – sod the quotas, sod the diversity.
Based upon the available information, Nigel Farage’s comments seem reasonable, proportionate and in accordance with the views of the majority of people in this country. The hysteria being co-ordinated by the BBC only serves to emphasise the gap between the political media establishment and ordinary folk. More votes for UKIP is the outcome – thank you, BBC!
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1. Fetch A Cloth
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Well, that neatly excludes most working folk, and hence a large chunk of the UKIP constituency.
Jasmine Lawrence now on modding duty?
In case there’s a ‘tidy up’ soon:
9. Nimrod Ping
So he didn’t actually say what you said he said?
You’ve said he said it, printed all the quotes from Downing Street, Khan, and Mrs Balls and then on another page given the full transcript and his Radio 4 interview which says he actually said something different. And not only that, something that Brown said previously.
I’m really surprised that the BBC doesn’t get sued more often.
1. Fetch A Cloth
In 2007, Gordon Brown said âBritish Jobs for British Workersâ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7097837.stm)
That is exactly what Nigel Farage has just said.
He wants people to be employed not on their race, but on their nationality, which are completely different things as Sadiq Khan well knows but is misunderstanding for effect.
2. Old Father Thames
The media daggers from ‘interested parties’ are flying again, this time Farage’s opinions on UK employers forced to employ foreign nationals are being spun as racist:-
Headline:
“Nigel Farage would axe ‘much of’ race discrimination laws”
Farage quote:
“I do believe there should be a presumption for British employers in favour of them employing British people as opposed to somebody from Poland”
7. Bill
‘British jobs for British workers’ – it was OK when Gordon Brown said it. As Farage points out, that means British of any colour.
Desperate smear tactics by the other parties will only increase UKIPs chances.
40. imemomeme
The response from the main political parties sums up perfectly why UKIP is gaining in popularity.
51. peter
What is wrong with people from Britain getting a bit of assistance in working in THEIR OWN COUNTRY?
12. ukvoter
The man is not being racist, he speaks the thoughts many British people are afraid to utter. British jobs for BRITISH workers. he gets my vote.
26. hurricanehicken
Virtually the same thing as Gordon Brown said about 8 years ago. The only difference is the other parties and the media start braying for blood, as if Nigel Farage had started eating children for breakfast.
Do you wonder why so few people vote?
34. LardiusMaximus
The BBC are really showing their true colours in the misreporting of this. When a socialist says “British Jobs For British Workers” that’s fine and it’s reported verbatim. When Farage says it he’s a racist.
46. Remus
Yet more evidence of the big parties running scared of UKIP. To have opinions on immigration is not to be racist. That card has been played many times in the past but it won’t work now. Immigration is a BIG issue and it must be talked about without the hysterics displayed by Labour and Tory in order to try and score election points. Keep going Nigel.
11. Nicklas52
He’s right though. Why shouldn’t a company be able to hire British people preferentially over those moving from abroad? It is a country’s duty to serve its citizens, it exists for them, not for the rest of the world. I expect the typical, out of context backlash from the uninformed rabble who will jump down Mr Farage’s throat at the mere mention of the word ‘race’ which sends them into a frenzy.
5. Davey Trasker
Oohh look, the left wing press are trying to smear UKIP. Now there’s a surprise. They must be really worried that someone is actually going to try and do something about the mess this country is in.
154. shakespeare17
Read what he actually said. This is misrepresentation. Estate agents can’t get away with it, why should the BBC?
An Equality and Human Rights Commission report has found that “some Christian employers, service users and providers” believe Christianity has “lost status” because of equality laws.
So, how do we reckon BBC Breakfast will handle this potentially tricky house agenda-busting issue in the news today – if at all?
Well, first they bring into the studio a carefully sourced Christian spokesman who is so apologetic he almost does the charicature of the happy-clappy turn the other cheek chappy….
Then – you’ll never guess – they bring on a spokesman from… wait for it… The Ramadan Foundation!!!
Our moslem friend suffers no such diffidence in making his stake for rights and respect – he’s a reasonable fellow however (probably can’t believe his luck in getting to put his oar in on national tv about this Christian focused report) so he says he is willing to work over Christmas so long as he can have time off for Eid, and other hoildays and prayer facilities at work during the day… and and… and …. well we left it there for now – I guess he didn’t want to push his luck too far just yet.
‘ (probably canât believe his luck in getting to put his oar in on national tv about this Christian focused report)’
Seems reasonable to bring in a Christian representative to comment, and clearly total control of the invite list ensures said rep can be selected as much to implode as explain. Job done.
Less clear on why the default ‘counter’ on call appears to be from just one other, currently still minority but near BBC mandated religion? Do they have a permanent green room on standby?
Maybe an FOI to the head of religious programming on what editorial integrity guided this choice?
BBc breakfast SNAFU. Nugent has super serious face on as they report Farage wants to scrap some race laws. Shock horror. Young voters & their issues They want cheap housing, but lets not go why there is a housing shortage & high costs. Oh Tony Hawkes is on about riding across Devon with a pig (yes it’s plug a book time, & his care centre in Moldova) & it’s only the other week Moris Minor & the majors were a topic of discussion. I really need to find something else to watch in the mornings.
I would have thought that, given current and future sensibilities, Mr. Hawkes’ apparent choice of steed companion and the BBC’s promotion of it, was… brave.
Beeboids reports negatively on 1.) Farage on ‘race,’ ‘nationality’
but not on 2.) Islamic criminalisation of drawings
1.)
“Nigel Farage would axe ‘much of’ race discrimination laws”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31846453
2.)
“UK Muslim group seeks to brand depictions of Muhammad as ‘hate speech.’â
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/uk-muslim-group-seeks-to-brand-depictions-of-muhammad-as-hate-speech
What about Brown’s statement ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7097837.stm
The knives are certainly out to get Farage .
“Nigel Farage: British Muslim âfifth columnâ fuels fear of immigration.
“Ukip leader also says he would get rid of âirrelevantâ anti-discrimination laws in interview with former equality commissioner Trevor Phillips”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/12/nigel-farage-british-muslim-fifth-column-fuels-immigration-fear-ukip
In case Beeboids missed this from UKIP-
“Those most impacted by mass unskilled migration are
our own settled minority groups.”
http://www.ukip.org/british_citizens_most_impacted_by_mass_unskilled_migration_are_our_own_settled_minority_groups
I don’t need a report to tell me this . I’ve seen it unfold before my eyes.
“Jeremy Clarkson suspended: BBC bosses were NOT told about ‘steak fracas’ for FIVE days after alleged incident”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/jeremy-clarkson-suspended-bbc-bosses-5317425?
Sounds very similar to the Waldorf Salad incident at Falty Towers
‘Sir, Sir…. Clarkson Major threw peas at tiffin..!
So this is the latest scoop on what may, or may not have happened? Awesome.
I know it’s The Mirror, but really? Worth looking at some of what they have come up with critically and a bit of Google Translate from Lefty Semantics (the Lingua Wanqua of BBC Editorial Guidelines)* into English.
‘Following the alleged incident Top Gear filming continued in the Yorkshire Dales for three days’
So it remains ‘alleged’ and was of sufficient importance, nothing happened for three days.
It would appear the alleged victim wasn’t too fussed either, until later. Reasons as yet TBC.
And Sneak Minor dobbed in Jezza only on getting back to the fold, and the weasels sensed opportunity.
‘when the incident is believed to have taken place’
Ah… ‘belief’, the staple of so much BBC reaction.
‘According to witness reports… The witness, who did not want to be named’
As yet sources who stay… a BBC secret? For reasons of journalism, art and editorial integrity, no doubt.
‘âIt was more like a scuffle.
So in this latest incarnation, more like ‘not throwing or even landing a punch’ then? As seems to have gained traction thanks to… ahem… ‘reports’ elsewhere.
‘âBut he did swear using every bad word you could think of.
Oh, the humanity!
And… so far… that…. is it?
Unique.
*For balance, here’s a less smitten review:
http://www.brandrepublic.com/article/1337787/day-fracas-became-part-lexicon
Amazingly, a significant proportion of the luvvie world do want him made an example off. Guess they didn’t have time to chip in on that 10 month old petition or vote on the BBC HYS before it closed. Guess birds of a feather are, as may be expected, simply flokking together.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/british-muslims-terror-laws-witch-hunt-islam-cage-hizb-ut-tahrir
âWe reject the portrayal of Muslims and the Muslim community as a security threat.â
UH OH! after the nauseating “CAGE” Al BBC Islamophilia fiasco
Anyone smell a …
N “I walked in he walked out” Campbell – BBC 5Live phone in
coming on?
“They donât want anti-terror laws?.
What will be the result of not having anti-terror laws?
… More jihad terror”.
Where have we ever seen a Muslim organization honestly committed to countering jihad terror and stamping it out?
Instead all we get, even from âmoderates,â is …
endless complaining about counter-terror measures”
R Spencer.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/uk-muslims-decry-the-continued-public-targeting-of-muslims-through-endless-anti-terror-laws
PS
Maybr Panto Nikki … could have the 3 erm “missing” … terror teenies as a special on his … Long Lost Families show.
âWe reject the portrayal of Muslims and the Muslim community as a security threat.â
Seems fair comment to me.
Because there are white criminals in jail it would be wrong to suggest that all white people are criminals would it not?
Similarly for any other ethnic or religious group.
‘Instead all we get, even from âmoderates,â is âŚ
endless complaining about counter-terror measures’
Again you misread the issues. There has to be a balance between security and privacy. In a democratic society that balance needs to be decided in open discussion and checks and balances need to be appropriately applied.
Have these issues been openly discussed? The answer to that is no.Have the security services worked within the law .The answer to that is no. Whereas the US reacted to Snowdon constructively, the good ol ‘democratic’ UK not only ignored the issues of illegal mass surveilance but are trying to increase snooping powers. Should be interesting what the ISC will come up with today. Its amazing what you dont see if you’re not prepared to look.
If you support democracy then you would support open discussion.
If you dont then maybe ISIS have a job for you!
Elsewhere you claim that ISIS have loads and loads of supporters. If you want to be a bigot then be so, but at least be consistent in your bigotry.
There is no bigotry involved here. If you believe that to be so then please show where. ISIS may be an enemy of the west but that is not to deny it has any support. If it did not have support it wouldnt exist would it?
There is a clear, open ended mandate for warfare against
any non Muslim, that is being consistently used today, both here and abroad … you seem to fancy yourself as some kind of intellectual ?
… LOOK IT UP
and … where is the non Islamic, jihad terror threat then?
we face today? … look, just leave your weasel words out
“Again you misread the issues”
sheesh! the lone arbiter strikes again, just be careful you don t fall off of your cloud, đ
You are right. There was and is no terrorist threat to this country. None of the attacks really happened. Isis does not exist
The first duty of government is not to protect the nation .The first duty of government is to read the Guardian and listen to the BBC and the liberal media. They know what is right.
The reality is that the majority of the people of this country do not care how terrorism is stopped. They just want it stopped and at any cost.
This majority never thinks of questioning it’s loyalty to Queen and country. It is tired of liberal equivocating. And one way or another it will be heard.
The reality is that the majority of the people of this country do not care how terrorism is stopped.
Not sure how you know what the majority think!
The reality is that the majority of the people of this country do not care how terrorism is started.
Do you think this maybe the case?
They just want it stopped and at any cost.
Not sure how you know what cost people are prepared to accept unless you asked them and that involves the dirty word of democracy which you obviously dont agree with.
No one wants terrorism but it is IMO an abrogation of personal responsibility not to question why it exists ,what starts it, what maintains it and what can stop it. This my friend is not liberal equivocating. It is pretty much what every intelligence service is considering.
Man on a Bus. I don’t know whether you are (i) thick, (ii) muslim or (iii) without an understanding of what it is to be free. Some willfully ignore the dangers that they face I guess.
No balance needed at all between ‘security’ and ‘privacy’.
Those who would sacrifice a little of their liberty for a little security deserve neither.
Muslims reject freedom in favour of submission to Islam and hence to islamofascism. They are categorically incompatible with our values of free speech, free association and individual property rights – Mafia with a God (piss be upon him).
Freedom lovers, humanitarians and enlightened human beings should clearly and vehemently reject Islam, and fight it as and where necessary.
If you think its your business (or the business of islamists and their appeasers) to remove my freedom through laws that sanction government footsoldiers to interfere with the freedom that is my birthright, then f*%k you, you fascist c%^t.
Yes to open discussion about how government should respond to our enemies (from abroad and from within). No to ceding any powers regarding my freedom, property and privacy to the state. I’d rather see extended gun ownership to improve homeland security (indiginous minimum 4th generation British only – catagorically no muslims) than powers given to the state.
Man on a Bus, you really are a Dhimmi! (unless you’re a muslim).
‘No to ceding any powers regarding my freedom, property and privacy to the state.’
I am sure you will be as disappointed with the general cover up of GCHQ mass surviellance then. Cos you just lost a ton of freedom my friend. And guess what, youre just about to lose a whole lot more.
Well I am. Disappointed that is (but not surprised).
If you were a bit more attentive, less prejudiced and more open minded, you would realise that many of this website’s contributors have vastly differing views on the issues of data privacy and ‘intelligence agency’ powers. However, these views are expressed in the knowledge that whilst there is significant divergence on this issue,the posters all have the best interests of the UK and British people at the forefront of their minds. I’m on the libertarian end (or David Davis end) of the argument.
Get off the Clapham bus. Get on the Clacton bus. Join the people’s army. And open your mind.
Common Sense, Not Common Purpose. Vote UKIP!
SalÄm ŘłŮا٠, to you Man on Bus.
You do well to defend the honour of Islam from these infidels and you shall be rewarded.
Our holy book the Quran commands us to deceive the unbelievers and to lead them into a false sense of security. This is al-taqiyya and kitmÄn and it is our holy duty. You do well to tell the infidels that we mean them no harm. Continue your good work.
Today we are few and the infidels are many, but our numbers are growing. The day is not far when we will be strong enough to strike the unbelievers and kill them wherever we find them.
When that day comes we will strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them and strike terror into their hearts until they submit to Islam.
When that day comes Man on Bus, you shall be rewarded; We shall kill you last.
NO you have the situation completely wrong through wilful ignorance !
Discussion of this issue in the UK is impossible because people like you describe those who tell the truth, or those who refer to the instruction manual (Qur’an), or the laws and customs in Muslim countries as ‘Islamofauxbik’.
You probably believe the lies that ISIS are unrepresentative of Islam, because the politicos – bribed by Middle Eastern potentates, and the BBC tells you so. All other speech to the contrary is banned.
You talk about ‘balances’ but where’s the balance in the destruction of freedom to speak the truth?
You tell me of a Muslim country which you as a homosexual Jew would be happy to live? Tell me of a Muslim country which you think has acceptable laws because all of them follow the teachings of the instruction manuals.
You think they want any different here? Only last week they posted a Muslim Manifesto which called for the implementation of Sharia law. Perhaps you’d like to tell us why that should be allowed and why we should all celebrate the maiming of thieves, murder of gays, elimination of Jews, banning of alcohol & pork, and the subjugation of any non Muslim ?
Muslims represent a continuing security risk because of their violent religion which calls upon followers to fight for Islamic supremacy.
One of the funniest things when they manage it will be when they come to execute the liberal lefties who made it all possible for them !
‘Discussion of this issue in the UK is impossible because people like you describe those who tell the truth, or those who refer to the instruction manual (Qurâan), or the laws and customs in Muslim countries as âIslamofauxbikâ.’
Where have I said that?? I have laid down a perfect piece for discussion. I have been told by one person that he thinks no wants freedom here in order to gain maximum security. Another tells me if the government infringes on his freedom he’ll take up arms. So which is it?
If you actually read what I said you will note I didnt mention Islam at all. Why you have started chatting about it is a mystery to me. Why have you?
Out of interest there are many forms of Islam.Look em up on the internet. One of the more virulent forms comes from Saudi Arabia, a British and US ally. Work that one out if you will .(Hint – Oil)
I could rewrite my recent comment concerning the “I’m ignorant, me” style of interview on Today. This morning it wasn’t Mishal acting totally stupid, it was Naughtie. Again – as in his 4 March interview – Farage spelled out about 3 times in words of one syllable what he had said and what he meant. He stated unequivocally that his remarks and proposed legislation were squarely aimed at giving British nationals (of any colour you care to name) advantage in job opportunities over non-nationals (particularly from the EU). Farage also emphasised that he had not mentioned race or any proposals concerning race or race legislation.
Farage gave as definitive a denial as I’ve ever heard and no-one (not even Naughtie) attempted to quote against him. Then, literally in the next item (which happened to be the “news”) the BBC continued as if Farage had never spoken. The “news” re-reported the deliberate lie and stated that Farage intended removing fundamental protections under UK race legislation and how “disgusted” some Labour gobshite was. As usual where Farage is concerned the BBC just doesn’t care: any old accusation to Farage’s discredit will be reported as “fact”. Oddly, I suspect that the misreported “facts” will benefit Farage despite all the BBC/Labour manufactured hoo-hah.
‘âIâm ignorant, meâ style of interview on Today. ‘
Norman – ‘cough cough but Labour say’ – Smith took the more forensic attack route against Farage “I’ve been going over the transcript of the interview”
Channel 4 obviously have few qualms about giving a ‘rival’ network a quick shuftie of their upcoming scoop and BBC clearly no corporate concern about giving a ‘competitor’ channel a big plug for their up coming show – well, not when it comes to labelling UKIP as racist – which is quite obviously now The Prime Directive.
Smith took the more forensic attack route …
Norman thinks he may have detected a U-turn. It’s his favourite ploy. I sense he doesn’t understand that Kippers just yawn. And it shows just how far the Beeb are out-of-touch that they quote Sadiq Khan. Kippers everywhere think ‘I was going to vote UKIP, but I’ll have to reconsider, given what Sadiq Khan says..’. Likely?
Doesn’t INBBC like to hear this?:-
“Nigel Farage: UK mosques have been infiltrated by hate preachers
Ukip leader accuses government of appeasing Islamist extremism and warns religious minorities they need to understand the law of the land.”
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/feb/26/nigel-farage-uk-mosques-have-been-infiltrated-by-hate-preachers
The bBC, its so called impartiality code when it comes to UKIP and Islam. an its half a story time.
Nigel Farage would axe ‘much of’ race discrimination laws
UKIP would scrap much of the legislation designed to prevent racial discrimination in work, party leader Nigel Farage has said. He was speaking in a Channel 4 documentary to be shown next week.
Yes the champion of free speech which is the bBC takes another stab at Mr Farage for stating his beliefs, see how they express shock,horror and disbelieve at this white racist bastard who must be silenced at all costs. Yet hang on this is the same bBC which has no problem allowing the likes of the ISIS,Taliban, Boko Haram, Al Queda, their camp followers in the UK: Cage, AI,PIL, and the rest do exactly the same (In the case of Anjem Choudary and his idiots even worse) and they never bat an eyelid. which is probably why they leave out this what Mr Farage also says in that program. A little something which I bet would resonate with quite a lot of people around the world never mind the UK:
Nigel Farage: British Muslim âfifth columnâ fuels fear of immigration
Nigel Farage has warned there is rising public concern about immigration partly because people believe there are some Muslims who want to form âa fifth column and kill usâ, and that there has never before been a migrant group that wants to âchange who we are and what we areâ.Farage said the emergence of British-born Islamist extremists was an âespecial problemâ, with some Muslim immigrants who do not want to integrate prompting wider public concern. During the interview, the Ukip leader said: âI think perhaps one of the reasons the polls show an increasing level of concern is because people do see a fifth column living within our country, who hate us and want to kill us. âSo donât be surprised if there isnât a slight increase in peopleâs worries and concerns. You know, when youâve got British, when youâve got people, born and bred in Cardiff, with British passports, going out to fight for Isis, donât be surprised if there isnât an uptick in concern. There has been an uptick in concern, but does it make us a prejudiced people? No.â
In contrast, he said, previous waves of immigration by Huguenots, Jews and Ugandan Asians became integrated in society while often maintaining private observance of their faiths and traditions.
âThere is an especial problem with some of the people whoâve come here and who are of the Muslim religion who donât want to become part of our culture. So there is no previous experience, in our history, of a migrant group that comes to Britain, that fundamentally wants to change who we are and what we are. That is, I think, above everything else, what people are really concerned about.â
Anybody here know why the bBC kind of left the above out from their reporting of Mr Farage and that CH4 program?
Well said.
‘Yes the champion of free speech which is the bBC takes another stab at Mr Farage for stating his beliefs’
Yes its called reporting and particularly important when people are expected to be voting in a few weeks.
Are you seriously expecting the press not to report policy statements. Time for you to get you meds topped up!
when the one eyed scottish gimp said “british jobs for british workers” left wing pricks like yourself lavished praise on him
When our lord and saviour, St. Nigel of Farage says same thing, left wing pricks like you call him a racist
how queer you and your fellow pinko travelers are
I think you confuse being left wing with constructing a reasoned argument. The two are different you know.Or perhaps you dont!
lmao @ u
thats the funniest thing youve said since you told me dark matter and dark energy overshadowed the work of Edwin Hubble
you are aware both dark energy and dark matter are simply hypothesis and considered to be pseudo science by some of the most intelligent scientists
although if you believe in that other pseudo science called man made cimate change, then you’ll probably believe anything
LMFAO.
I don’t think many posters on this site confuse ‘being left wing’ with ‘constructing a reasoned argument’.
Personally I think the two are mutually incompatible.
Exchange ‘reasoned’ with ’emotional’ and you have it.
Unfortunately lots of people don’t recognise the fundamental difference between the two.
‘Yes, it’s called reporting, and..”
(c) A. Newsroom Tealady will be blushing with pride.
Mind you, reading what was actually written, and quoted, it looks like the poster was referring more to the inevitable BBC spin placed on unadorned facts.
Which is not called reporting. It’s called propaganda.
Often used hand in hand with censorship, for instance when they omit chunks of context or close comment threads that veer off piste.
1900 since most folk started working. We’ll see when this one ‘closes’ shall we?
Here’s the top comment so far:
9. Nimrod Ping
4 HOURS AGO
So he didn’t actually say what you said he said?
You’ve said he said it, printed all the quotes from Downing Street, Khan, and Mrs Balls and then on another page given the full transcript and his Radio 4 interview which says he actually said something different. And not only that, something that Brown said previously.
I’m really surprised that the BBC doesn’t get sued more often.
I’d say comments like that may… disconcert… the BBC high command at this difficult time, when they are not trusted, are despised and mocked in equal measure… with good reason.
Thanks for highlighting that.
Anybody here know why the bBC kind of left the above out from their reporting of Mr Farage and that CH4 program?
Er, is it because:
(a) Nigel Farage is factually correct on this
(b) It makes some uncomfortable statements about some Muslims
(c ) It doesn’t fit the BBC agenda
Or
(d) All of the above?
INBBC regard three British Muslim schoolgirls as victims for volunteering and joining our enemy, the Islamofascist, Islamic state in Raqqa.
In contrast, INBBC doesn’t seem interested in this:-
“Missing Kurdish teenager Silhan Ozcelik feared to have left London to fight against Isis in Syria”
(Nov 2014).
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/missing-kurdish-teenager-silhan-ozcelik-feared-to-have-left-london-to-fight-against-isis-in-syria-9880490.html
ITV, today-
“Teenage girl on terror attack charge.
An 18-year-old woman arrested at Stansted Airport has been charged with preparing to carry out a terrorist attack during October 2014, police have said.”
http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2015-03-12/teenage-girl-arrested-at-stansted-on-terror-attack-charge/?
Well spotted! what’s happening here? Has this girl been arrested because she was fighting for us? … while a day or two ago the ‘three friends’ were promised immunity from prosecution by the head of the police, even though they went to join our enemies, the ISIS scum? Or was she planning terrorism here?
QT tonight:
Anna Soubry
Charles Kennedy
Lucy Powell
Natalie Bennett
Ian Hislop
Didn’t Ofcom rule that UKIP, unlike the Greens, was to be considered a major party alongside the LibLabCons? Look at this panel; Soubry hates UKIP, Greens yet again, no UKIP. Of course, the Beeb has kicked off a major smear campaign against UKIP this morning, but no one from UKIP is allowed on to QT to reply. They work all the moves to discharge their responsibilities without actually being fair. They count negative smearing as coverage, they include UKIP far out from the election but close them out as it approaches, etc.
5 – 0 to the Left wing Common Purpose establishment. Anna Soubry showed what a Islamist appeaser she is with her spiteful comments to (I think it was Richard Starkey) only a few weeks ago.
So we have an Tory Social Decmocrat appeaser; a saturated Scottish left wing ‘intellectual’, a Labour Feminazi automaton, Natalie ‘where’s the straightjacket’ Bennett a foreign Marxist liberated from the laws of arithmetic and a Ian ‘jesuischarlatan’ Hislop Common Purpose establishment leftard satirist who is a self confessed coward and appeaser.
Another QT week with no representation for civilised values or freedom lovers.
The BBC won’t pretend to be impartial any more. Its imploding
Scrap the Telly Tax. Vote UKIP.
They need you there mate!
I’d provide an alternative view.
And some humour I suspect
One tries.
I agree that this panel is a typical Lefty LibLabCon-sensus one and would be more balanced if there were a UKIP representative.
Natalie B will likely make a fool of herself but it will be interesting to see if the BBC audience is packed with Lefty yoof to cheer her along; either way, good news, as she’ll be exposed or take votes from Labour. Kennedy won’t be setting the heather alight either, unless he tries to blow out a match on a moor. Hislop sold out a while back but may throw a few punches about establishment troughers.
La Soubry is an interesting case: ex-SDP, though before that a Conservative student, and no Thatcherite, but that would be hard in any case, when her Broxtowe seat is marginal (majority < 400) and was Labour 1997-2010. She and 'Lozatex' Campbell used to appear together on 'Central Weekend', a vox pop on ITV in the late 1980s; I know which of the two I'd prefer, in a Hobson's Choice sort of way. The then charming Soubry once naively asked the former Viscount Stansgate about 'working with extremists': Benn admitted this … … and gave the names Shirley Williams, Roy Jenkins, David Owen and Bill Rogers. The Bennite claque in the audience were rolling about laughing.
INBBC turns to Labour Party’s Muslim Sadiq Khan for anti-Farage quote.
This Sadiq Khan-
“UK Muslim minister wants Muslim Prime Minster”
this is the man who had a meeting with Jihadist terror apologists, CAGE !
Thoughful wrote:
“this is the man who had a meeting with Jihadist terror apologists, CAGE !”
Big ears opined:
“This is not Sadiq Khan”
Sorry, but Thoughful is correct and you (As per usual) are wrong:
PRESS RELEASE: Cageprisoners urges MPs to block US Extraditions
House of Commons Meeting on Extradition
Venue: Committee Room 10, House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA
Date: 20 June 2012
Time: 6:00pm – 8:00pm
Speakers: Ashfaq Ahmad – father of Babar Ahmad
Sadiq Khan – MP and Shadow Justice Secretary
Caroline Lucas – MP
Gareth Peirce – human rights lawyer
David Bermingham – former extraditee to the US
Victoria Brittain – Author, journalist and patron of CagePrisoners
Sir Iqbal Sacranie – Muslim Council of Britain
This is not Sadiq Khan
Shocker! ……drumroll…….
Man on Bus is Correct!
Former Labour MP for Dewsbury, and Justice Minister, Shahid Malik. The true face of Islam?
The muslm Sad dik Khan mp spouting off is merely a symptom but not the cause of the problem.
Lib Lab Con have lowered down the draw bridge and let the invading hordes in.
Interesting cartoon from the US. Ring any bells here?
Ok so that’s my complaint to the BBc about Clarkson sent. Seems to me the BBc agenda is at work again. Leaked un-shown footage, 1 complaint about obscure American Vietnam era comment. Still they could replace it with some more PC dross.
BBC up to their usual tricks with their specially commissioned “surveys” again.
“Newsbeat finds that young people are most concerned about the NHS, and more likely to vote if they could do so by app” blah blah blah.
Curiously, in the Newsbeat report on the BBC’s website, there is no link to the detail of the ComRes survey itself, only a link to a funky, shitty Youtube video (incidentally, the “key findings” in the video goes through about 5 “key issues” for young people in the election. Although immigration was ranked 3rd most important issue by young people, it has been completely “disappeared” from the “key findings” video).
Now, not linking to the detailed survey results is an immediate red flag that there is something they don’t want people to know. Fortunately, however, ComRes have published the full survey results on their own website.
Click to access BBC-Newsbeat_18-24-Year-Olds-Political-Survey_March-2015.pdf
Well, lookee here! What’s this buried away on page 64??
“Q13 Which of the following comes closest to your opinion about the national debt?”
The Government should raise taxes on older
people to reduce the amount of national debt
future generations have to pay off
The Government should seriously cut
government spending now to reduce the
amount of national debt future generations have
to pay off
The Government should neither cut spending
nor raise taxes at the current time and let young
people and future generations pay off the
current national debt
Don’t know ”
Hmm. This might be interesting. After all, pretty much the only difference between a Labour government and a Tory one will be that the Tories will pay down the deficit slightly more quickly than Labour, and Labour preference is for raising taxes over spending cuts. After 5 years solid of wall-to-wall anti-austerity, anti-cuts propaganda from the BBC there’ll be massive opposition to cuts, right? Also, look at how the cuts option is worded. Not just that the government should cut government spending, but that it should SERIOUSLY cut government spending. Heh heh heh! Clever bit of poll-nudging there, BBC/Comres! That’ll put even MORE people off choosing the evil Tory option!!
Well, not quite.
The numbers:
Raise taxes: 10%
Leave it to future generations: 14%
Don’t know: 24%
Make serious cuts? FIFTY THREE PERCENT.
Astonishing.
Yet this finding is not reported. Anywhere.
A majority of young people support serious government spending cuts, as against 10% who support tax rises. And the BBC decides this is not worth reporting.
Un-be-fucking-lievable. Except it’s not unbelievable, is it? It’s Standard Operating Procedure.
Well that is one interpretation I suppose. But what is the emphasis in the sentence. Is it on SERIOUS CUTS which is a completely meaningless phrase unless you understand what is going to be cut and what are the implications of the cut . If I were a kid then they wouldnt really cut much from me except maybe my lollipop allowance. The other bit of the sentence
‘reduce the amount of national debt future generations have
to pay off’
probably has more resonance to someone younger since they are part of the future generation which will end up paying. They are crap questions in my opinion – very loaded.
The other point I’d make is that no one seems to know what each of the parties are doing spending wise at the moment so I guess the kids are in the same boat as the rest of us. My preference is to borrow since money is dead cheap and will provide multiplier effects that may help to bring about the much needed structural changes to the British economy. Otherwise we will collapse into what will essentially be an offshore haven but without the sun.
Codswallop
… SERIOUS CUTS which is a completely meaningless phrase…
Agreed. Depends on your outlook. Some years ago, Carrie Gracie said she earned ÂŁ90k pa as a Beeboid. She might see a benefit cap at ÂŁ25k as outrageous hardship, while someone on a zero-hours, minimum wage rate might look on it with envy.
… money is dead cheap and will provide multiplier effects …
Ah yes… the ‘multiplier effect’… the wonders of ‘investment’… I feel nostalgia for the old days when Tony Benn and Eric Heffer and their ilk used to tell us of the joys of borrowing. Seems a new generation is keen to give it another go. Maybe the outcome will be different next time. Maybe if you keep on trying…
Pump priming works in the house market.Thats why all the prices have gone up. What we currently lack is demand because no one has got a proper job.
Actually the cost of building houses has gone up due to increased demand for building materials. It went up 7% last year and 5% this.
UKIP policies include:
(1). Get Britain out of the European Union, saving £120bn
(3). £3bn more, annually, into our NHS which desperately needs it
(6). Cutting £9bn from our foreign aid budget
(20). Scrapping the poorly planned HS2 project, saving up to £50bn
(78). Repealing the Climate Change Act 2008 which costs the economy £18bn per year
That alone would give UKIP the ability to give us all a tax cut windfall of ÂŁ194bn
If only BBC journalists where intelligent enough to do some investigative Journalism, they too could tell us about UKIP policies.
Well if it’s true that the kiddies are concerned about the NHS, they probably do best by voting for anyone but Labour.
Did they mention, across on Radio 1, that there had been yet another report last week about appalling standards of care and unnecessary deaths in the NHS on Labour’s watch?
I bet they didn’t
Probably didnt mention the Rose report or Kings (Fund (I think) report saying that Graylings reforms had produced completely dysfunctional management.The Rose report said it was the worst management structure they’d ever seen.
#88, yes look no further than Wales where a splendid job of running the NHS is being done by labour.
Angry? F*&king Angry. 12/3/15
Convicted fraudster Denis Macshame has a gig on The Daily Politics.
The BBC are happy to select which criminals to support, financially and psychologically (Macshane, Pryce, Huhne) who are typically those who are careerist drainers of the public purse, and which âallegedâ criminals to continuously vilify (Clarkson, Ched Evans, Dave Whelan, ‘football fans’) who typically are great contributors to the public purse. Go figure.
Indeed. He just happened to have brought his book with him and held it up for a plug. You couldn’t make it up.
BBC main News. At 1300Hrs
Norman Smithâs secondment from the National Socialist Party (labour) to the BBC continues, with his overtly partial and willfully biasd coverage of the progressive views on employment laws expressed by Nigel Farage this morning. For Nigel Farage to be surrounded by all these institutionally racist fukwits that infect the BBC and national politics must be awfully tiresome. Equality = letting any employer chose who she employs and who she does not, based on whatever criteria the employer choses. Its not rocket science FFS.
Fascist scum like Norman Smith and his thought police need medicating. No reverse gear being sought Norman. With UKIP, the country may find a forward gear for the first time in a generation!
Nigel is colour blind and a meritocrat. I am colour blind and a meritocrat. BBC, Norman âC*^tâ Smith, âspecialâ Ed, Spoonface Cameron and their Common Purpose lizards are enemies of the people, pushing division based on colour, gender and race. Divide and Rule, for the furtherment of their own wealth and comfort.
F^{k âem. And f${k that hypocritical puss filled skin sack David Miliband whoâs back from his tax avoiding sojourn to the USA and straight in our ears courtesy of the Socialist Nightmare Broadcasting Company who get the red carpet out straight away(yep, he went to Yankland, not some âredâ or âmuslimâ country. Wonder why?) Heâs a f*&king traitor. Why wasnât he arrested on his return?
Purge the LibLabCon virus. Scrap the BBC. Vote UKIP. Naughty, but nice. đ
I’m not going to vote UKIP but agree with your sentiment about Norman Smith.
In the way that the BBC, without fail, label people they don’t like; ‘far right’ UKIP, ‘right wing’ think tank, ‘convicted rapist’ Ched Evans, can we all prefix the word ‘controversial’ ahead of Norman Smith’s name
Liblabcon need a kick in the Ballots.
Go on #88. Lend UKIP your vote. This time. Throw the dice. đ
No, I’m going to vote Tory.
A friend, who was a brilliant, well respected Tory councillor, lost his seat at the last local elections. Enough of his votes from the previous election went to UKIP to allow the Labour candidate (and local scumbag) in.
I’m not doing it.
When the penny finally drops for Redwood, Bone, etc., the Tory party will split and we’ll get a logical alignment, rather than the current accident of history. But, meantime, the Good Old Cause is losing out.
Well if you think the Tory policies and direction of EU travel is for you, then fine.
But if you think UKIP policies and agenda are better, I would encourage you to vote with your head. i.e. Against the Lablibcon.
Loyalty is a noble virtue. Loyalty to a party above one’s values and neighbour’s interests is a real issue for ‘loyal’ Tories and I sympathise to an extent. I hope this group of people find the strength to do what is needed.
Vote UKIP, Get UKIP.
I am afraid you have got head and heart in the wrong order.
Voting with your head should tell you the most important thing for the country is to tactically vote to deny the two Eds the opportunity to f**k the country up yet again.
Voting UKIP in a general election is much more likely to bring Labour to power.
UKIP will not win in Scotland or English / Welsh Labour heartland seats. Even with serious tactical voting UKIP did not win Middleton. All UKIP will achieve is drawing support away from the Tories in seats winnable for them, and like the comment above said, letting Labour through to win unexpected seats and go on to form the government, possibly with an SNP tail wagging the dog.
And of course Labour will not do anything about changing the EU so no change on immigration or a vote on whether we stay or go.
UKIP is definitely not a head vote and their supporters are going to be mightily disappointed to wake up the morning after the election to see that they have achieved the worst of all outcomes for themselves and the nation.
I refuse to vote for more of the same. That is what we will get by voting for the big three. I understand your argument but I don’t agree. I will vote UKIP. I will not choose which bus to take me over the cliff…whoever the driver is. I won’t willingly get on.
And that Polly, is the logic I adopted years ago.
What’s more I write to the current Conservative MP and tell him just why I’ll never vote for him.
Make sure the bastards know it.
Those who intend to vote for anyone other than the omnipresent Lib/Lab/Con party are thinking with their heads. At the current rate of immigration and subsequent birthrate, the English (0f all colours) will be a minority in their country within 30 years and some parts of the resulting disunited kingdom will be very unpleasant indeed to live in. The guilty three, but really one, have no policies to change this. Our our national treasure, the much loved BBC, the poisonous, treacherous, maiden aunt, is busy cheer leading for everyone except the English.
What a legacy we are bequeathing to our children and grandchildren.
“I refuse to vote for more of the same”.
Please advise me what legislation in the EU have UKIP used every trick in the book to obstruct, talk out. How I long to hear their tales of fighting on our behalf in the chamber, even until after the bars close, to save us from more EU rules and regulations. Publishing their expenses to demonstrate they are above all that etc.
Rather they have joined the club, enjoyed the benefits and become indistinguishable from all the others on the EU gravy train.
Sounds exactly like more of the same to me.
I prescribe a dose of optimism.
I don’t seek a referendum. I would prefer English laws and no others. Withdrawal from EU. That would be a start.
The (so called) Conservative Party is infected with enforced collectivism and has been for some time. That’s how Spoonface got in to No. 10. He would put the Tory machine resources into a ‘Stay in’ campaign.
I know a lot of Ex Labour supporters who are going to vote UKIP !
I follow your logic. And reject it.
I reject it because it results perpetual Liblabcon, and is essentially founded on a fear. There’s no getting away from that. But if temporary damage limitation is what you seek, it makes sense.
Damage limitation is just slowing the agony and down and the world is changing, rapidly. I agree about the real danger of special Ed becoming PM. The Conservative Party is essentially now a social democrat party. They have embraced forced collectivism and forgotten Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights and I find that morally repugnant.
So this year I’ll be voting UKIP and hold my head up. I will get a Socialist Conservative (incumbent) or a Labour Automaton MP.
Good man 88 that`s what I keep telling em , the Bbc & Millipeed want people to vote ukip, in Labour / Tory marginals, so labour come through the middle & grab the seat . Then we have a Millipeed /SNP coalition . The licence fee is increased , more immigrants in , no referendum , its all going to happen . This is what the Evil Bbc want, & the kippers will be handling it to them on a plate . It is the only possible outcome.
… Millipeed /SNP coalition … more immigrants in …
Immigration has increased under Cameron. At Merkel’s bidding, he recently abandoned his aim of restricting free movement. End.
Yes Essex Man, everyone must think carefully when they vote. I cannot understand how anyone voting UKIP cannot feel some responsibility if we get two Eds in power. And if that happens G-d help us. I’m a definite for the Conservatives. They may not be perfect but they are the best option.
I cannot understand how anyone voting UKIP cannot feel some responsibility if we get two Eds in power.
You pre-suppose that we all accept there’s a choice between a frugal, market-led party v a profligate bunch of wasters. But that’s just a caricature that suits both sides. In reality, there’s not much between them. The Tories promised to clear the deficit over this parliament. Now they claim they’ve halved it. Even the Spectator knows that’s a lie, a figure achieved by sleight of hand with the figures:
http://order-order.com/tag/b/
In reality, for all the talk, the Tories have just done what Alistair Darling said Labour would do. (A bit more gratuitous brutality on benefits maybe; but if you watched my neighbour, past his allotted time with terminal cancer now starting treatment for a second unrelated cancer, being dragged off to be assessed as fit for work and facing the hassle of appeals, you might be less than impressed.)
There is no marginal economic damage the Eds will do that we can’t recover from. We will never recover from mass immigration.
I think we all have to think very carefully about the lie of the land in our particular constituency. As a matter of interest, Essex Man, how would you vote if in South Thanet where polls suggest Nigel Farage is in the lead and a Tory vote could in fact let Labour in?
I have a difficult decision to make north of the border. In an ideal world it would be UKIP for me but it may come down to a choice of voting for whoever keeps the SNP out. Would I really vote Labour to do so? I don’t yet know the answer to that, but view the thought of the SNP taking most of Scotland’s seats with horror and have to work out what price I am prepared to pay to stop that.
Vote UKIP.
Let others bear the guilt.
Vote UKIP because after another five years of Lib Lab or Cons being in power, everyone will be voting UKIP.
We put up with five years of campaigning and we will come through despite the propaganda of Al Beeb
Sadly I am in SNP heartland where they get the vote regardless. Conservative are in 2nd but a mile behind. I will vote UKIP simply to feel that I tried.
Conservative , as some labourites & Libs will vote Tory to keep Farage out . Not everyone who votes is dumb.
Nigel is colour blind and a meritocrat.
Yes thats what you get when you have a privileged background.
Twat
Politics of envy Manonbus. Diddums.
I wish you people could come out with a phrase that you didnt get from the Daily Mail.
How is it the politics of envy to point out that a guy that has had a priveledged background isnt meritocratic?
Another man on bus??
I don’t know where to start with that question. If you can’t see how, I can’t help you, other than to advise that you judge people by their actions and words, before you check their bank balance and parental fortune.
Yes he’s a posh Tory .you guys can save up and buy him a Spitfire if you really want to make him happy.
Blair, Miliband, Harman, Thornberry, Hodge, Balls, etc are all posh too.
Nbr 35 bus wrote:
I wish you people could come out with a phrase that you didnt get from the Daily Mail.
Daily Mail old bean? More like the Guardian:
What James Blunt doesnât understand about the politics of envy
So Richard Edward, what next from you?
I wasn’t saying the phrase is unique to the daily mail. I regard it the same as PC. Just ways to get out of arguing a point. That goes for the Guardian or any other newspaper.
Manicbus, that at least is honest on your part “Just ways to get out of arguing a point.”.
People on here are able to make up their own minds which is why there are many disagreements on what’s best to do to save this country (if it’s still possible) so there’s no ants’ nest minds here. Unlike you lot at the BBC, Guardian etc. who all “think” alike and are very predictable therefore. It appears that you are all following orders from above.
Yes when the argument fails, the lefty default – resort to abuse.
Farage is a true Brit, something you obviously ain’t…
What is one of those then. Farage
does sound very English I grant you.(not)
Private Harry Farage (Grandfather), fought for Britain in World War I, that’s good enough for me.
Pole Adolphe Ralph Milliband was listed as a conscientious objector in WW2
Geoff,
âPole Adolphe Ralph Milliband was listed as a conscientious objector in WW2â
That would be rather odd, seeing as he volunteered & served in the Royal Navy from 1943 to 1946.
http://goo.gl/M788Hb
he wasnt exactly on the front line watching his mates get killed was he, he was sat in the safety of a battleship out of range of enemy fire protected by fighter planes sat on his arse translating german messages on the radio
funny how he never signed up til his masters in the soviet union were invaded. Up until then, the national socialists were adolf milibands socialist comrads
i’d have more respect for him if he actually fixed bayonets, ran at a nazi machine gun post and fought the nazis instead of siting on his arse all day drinking tea
Just Sayin’
âfunny how he never signed up til his masters in the soviet union were invaded. Up until then, the national socialists were adolf milibands socialist comradsâ
His (Jewish) family fled Belgium in fear of their lives after it was invaded by National Socialists.
Your comments above are either the result of being very drunk or very stupid. I suspect itâs a combination of both.
That was Straws father.
Not necessarily, the three highly privileged and privately educated Oxbridge multi- millionaires Clegg, Milliband and Cameron are not exactly poster boys for meritocracy are they?
I don’t care where anyone was educated. It’s their competency that is more important.
Well that’s where Farage falls down at every level.hes a little Britain man.
So xenophobic, in fact, that his wife is German and he likes Europeans (which, amazingly, is not the same as loving the EU).
No not at all. You are right. I guess that’s why politicians aren’t popular. Far age isn’t any different though and he certainly isn’t a man of the people.
Ferguson, update.
How concerned is BBC-Democrat now?
1.)
“FOX NEWS TALKER: FERGUSON MOB ‘INCITED’ BY HOLDER”
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/fox-news-talker-ferguson-mob-incited-by-holder/#E5YcREPrrh1qDsdI.99
2.) BBC-Democrat-
“Ferguson police shot during protest”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-31846425
On the news updates during ‘Today’ on Radio 4, they repeated the usual mantra when setting the scene for the unrest in Ferguson: “… where an unarmed Black youth was shot dead by a White policeman”.
Curiously, the colour of the policemen shot in the latest incident was not specified, nor that of the shooters.
For BBC-Democrat to censor?:-
‘Jihadwatch’-
“Florida: Two Muslims to plead guilty to NYC mass casualty jihad plot”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/florida-two-muslims-to-plead-guilty-to-nyc-mass-casualty-jihad-plot
Chanel 5 Tonight 8 pm, Jimmy Savile Britains worst criminal.
Not while several members of the last Labour government are alive. Monster he undoubtedly was, but their crimes were crimes against an entire nation and on an even greater scale.
The UAF on facebook are getting a rough ride. https://www.facebook.com/UAFpage?fref=nf
They want Clarkson sacked. Unsurprisingly several are sinking low enough to try and make a comparison with Saville! UAF as usual clueless and out of touch. When I last looked the re-instate petition was 740,704.
What the UAF dummies do not grasp is that they have no say in choosing who their leaders put forward as the fascist/racist they are directed to hate. The left have always relied on mindless followers, but this lot simply have to be told who to protest against and get on the buses supplied by the trade unions. They are being bused to Oxford 4th April – I am not joking – under the banner ‘Justice for the victims of child exploitation’ where they will confront the ‘fascist’ EDL.
From their site:
Open letter, rally and demonstration against EDL exploiting suffering of Oxford victims of child exploitation
I have seen rent a mob being bussed into a town I used to live in with my own eyes, Then they hid the coachers in the miners club out of sight. I need no convincing
BBC – man aids 3 terror teenies
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31853002
“The man is said to work for the intelligence agency of a country which is part of the coalition against??? Islamic State (IS) militants.”
(wouldn t be … Muslim đ by any chance?).
So, once again despite, all the propablabber a Muslim actively aids ISIS instead of railing against the texts/teachings they use to justify their actions.
ps
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31840101
has the world failed Syria? … if you mean the non Muslims? yes
led in wilful ignorance by media like the BBC.
BBC revelling in Faraganda today, mind you first to join the queue to stab him in the back Camoron.
Outside the inept liars and traitors from No10, and BBC/Ch4,
You ask any small town chap, I would imagine he would go further
citing discrimination AGAINST OUR native population in the workplace, and citing active assistance of it all the way to Government continuing to increase expedientially over the past 5 years.
I maintain the BBC is anti –English & I have made that clear in more than one of my complaints.
OT – but RIP Terry Pratchett.
Radio 4 ‘PM’ today seemed to use Terry Pratchett’s death largely as an opportunity to propagandise for euthanasia for ten minutes (approx 17:03 to 17:13).
Ook
I wonder why the bBC haven’t mentioned this religion of peace and understanding story from Germany.
German Court Fines Relatives for Abducting Gay Muslim
BERLIN: A German court fined the father and two uncles of an 18-year-old Muslim citizen for depriving him of his personal freedom when he was a minor in an attempt, the victim says, to force him into marriage with a woman despite his homosexuality. In a case highlighting the problems Germany faces in integrating its four-million-strong Muslim community, Nasser El-Ahmad, who has a Lebanese background, has also told German media that his family tortured him for being gay.Found in a car at the Romanian-Bulgarian border two days after he went missing in December 2012, prompting an Interpol alert, El-Ahmad says he was kidnapped by his family in order to arrange his marriage to a Lebanese girl. After a five-minute hearing today, the judge handed the three accused men, who were not present, fines of 1,350 euros ($1,436) each for detaining him and taking him abroad…El-Ahmad, wearing a black shirt and trousers, black earrings and a “STOP HOMOPHOBIA” badge, said the court had done what it deemed right. “I did what I have the strength to do. At least this came to court, I’m happy about that,” he said, adding he had not expected his relatives to turn up. “I’m not someone who hides. I don’t want to suppress my sexuality.” El-Ahmad has told German media his father vowed to slit his throat and his uncle threatened to burn him after dousing him with petrol because they could not allow him to be gay.
Meanwhile the bBC tells me this about those poor,poor little Muslims living in the UK:
Muslim groups accuse government of criminalising Islam
More than 60 imams and leaders of Muslim organisations have signed an open letter to the government accusing it of criminalising Islam. They said that the “terror threat” was being exploited for political capital ahead of the general election.
Hmmm I wonder if El-Ahmad,felt terrorised in the boot of a car especially after his father wanted to slit his throat and after his Uncle doused him with petrol and said he wanted to burn him alive.
Nah, to the ethical latte drinkers at the bBC, El-Ahmad can only be at fault for offending the religious bigots of allah.
FaceBook:
BBC World News shared BBC Trending’s photo.
“I’m not afraid”
We interviewed a Saudi whistleblower who has leaked documents indicating high-level corruption inside the Kingdom’s royal family.
http://bbc.in/1GJkowf
BBC Trending
“I’m not afraid”
We interviewed a Saudi whistleblower who has leaked documents indicating high-level corruption inside the Kingdom’s royal family.
http://bbc.in/1GJkowf
Given the history with the BBC’s interviewees in that neck of the woods, intoning ‘I’m not afraid’ over and over seems a triumph of hope over experience.
Still, they got their story.
BBC Radio 4’s PM asks if Nigel Farage can continue to go on explaining himself.
Perhaps if the BBC and others reported what he says rather than what they want him to say he wouldn’t have to.
They even have the nerve to play an example where Nigel Farage imagines that Cameron and his boy, Clegg, will say to the EU that ‘the country is full’. This is to be heard as a direct statement from Nigel Farage! Of course technically Farage did say it, but then using the same logic, so did every reporter that repeated it!
Of course they have form for this technique. Jeremy Vine once told us that student loans were terrible. Politically independent, money-smart, Martin Lewis, explained to him in simple terms that he was talking rubbish as a student who gets a low-paid job might never have to pay back the ‘loan’. But that wasn’t what Vine wanted to hear so he back he went to the script, student loans are ‘bad’.
I heard that PM article. They discussed everything except the possibility that Farage is continually being wilfully misrepresented. You expect that from political opponents but not a supposedly impartial broadcaster who should be reporting not the lies but the facts – namely that Nigel didn’t say what he is being accused of.
But as the BBC is an opponent and isn’t really bothering to hide it any more, they did what I’d expect. I just wish UKIP would start to call them out on it more explicitly.
A bit of a surprise from Beeboids-
Are they sensibly thinking of changing sides in their wrongly designated ‘Spanish Civil War’ in Syria?
These heroic fighters are putting their lives on the line against the Islamofascist enemy which the West from Obama down, seems to be appeasing.
“Former soldier and City trader ‘felt compelled’ to fight IS”
(3 min video.)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31859689
To indicate the nature of the widespread military opposition from men and women heroically fighting the Islamofascist Islamic State, the victims may be (useless terms here) of ‘left’ or ‘right’ e.g.-
“German woman killed fighting against Islamic State in Syria”
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2015/03/09/German-woman-killed-fighting-against-Islamic-State-in-Syria/2231425938457/#ixzz3UCKWdXuW
Not on The Six O’Clock News
Hidden away in the politics timeline:
14:48: Farage comments welcome Mark Littlewood, director general of the Institute of Economic Affairs, says he doesn’t find the proposition that a British business should have the ability to discriminate in favour of British workers a difficult one.
He says as British society becomes “a more civilised, less sexist, less racist country, we do need a conversation about how necessary some of the legislation we have in place is”.
He adds he doesn’t believe it is the law that has changed attitudes on sexual relations and race but rather that society has become “much more cosmopolitan”. He says racism in the jobs market “is considerably less of a problem than it once was. I’m not saying there is no racism or sexism but the trajectory in which it is going is the right one”.
“We need to have a sensible policy debate⌠and I’m grateful to Nigel Farage for opening up that debate,” he says.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31846453
The BBC hang on every word when some business body tells us we will implode if we leave the EU… but this doesn’t get broadcast at all…. Strange.
Well good for him. We actually still have statutes going back hundreds of years which are no longer used. If societies grow out of the need to use them then surprise surprise they are not used.
less discrimination law is used these days ,but that’s only cos there’s a wrapping fee to take a case to tribunal.
I think there is really a discussion to be had about 0 hours contracts,interns and the generally shabby way workers are treated these days.
As long as we are governed as the United Kingdom, rather than The United States Of Europe or The Global Village, I see no reason why we shouldn’t give first shot to our own citizens.
‘The BBC will be giving away mini-computers to 11-year-olds across the country.’ – http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-31834927
If the BBC staff had a whip around and were using their own money to pay for this, I’d say, ‘Good for them’.
But they didn’t.
Socialists are good at being generous with other people’s money…
35 years ago the BBC microcomputer heralded the dawn of hands-on computer programming in schools. There were two models: The BBC A (16K Ram – Yes K not M) and the BBC B (32K Ram).
The BBC even supplied programmes through the old ceefax service (much quicker and brighter than the digital pages these days)
However those were the good old days when men were real men, women real women and BBC staff genuinely interested in providing a decent service to the country.
People in their 50s can probably recognise coding such as
[LDA #66: JSR &FFEE:JSR&FFEE:LDA #67:JMP &FFEE]
BBC basic is still available for use with IBM architecture – it has developed of course to access the APIs and changes but is still very user friendly, capable and flexible.
Yup those were the days.Ended up working on Ibm 390 architecture for 20 years.
Don’t you realize that each computer has a hidden program?
”Love Big Brother, believe all that BBC Brother tells you, hate UKIP despise indigenous white people, all British are lazy and workshy, all immigrants are hard working and honest,British Empire a thing of evil, all other empires to be admired’ drone drone….You must believe, or you will be eaten by rats
The code I wrote would produce the letters “BBC” on the monitor. Surprised no-one spotted it.
So what happens when it makes the final ‘Jump’ to ‘Print’ sub-routine, executes the code and hits the now meaningless ‘Return’ at the end, (sub-routine ending without having a valid ‘call’)?
No I’m too old. Electronic calculators were the red hot item of technology as I was leaving comprehensive.
I have. Just switched on the six o’clock news to hear a story quite high up running order that sounds like another Rotherham / Rochdale / oxford / derby etc etc – it seemed they had a former policeman saying that SYP had covered up more cases and closed off further investigation leaving yet more victims vulnerable . There was no mention of the background of those (few) that were convicted – I’ve just gone to look at full story on BBC website, but despite it appearing on the 6, there is absolutely nothing on the news website – not on front page, not in news in England and not in the Yorkshire section either – I thought perhaps (finally) the BBC might be coming around to giving the whole situation the publicity it requires but now wondering if they’ve already strangled this one at birth !
The BBC R4 PM programme said the perps were of many nationalities and races. Translating from beebspeak that means most were the usual suspects (Pakistani Muslim) but a handful were not. Or am I wrong?
This morning we hear that Greater Manchester Police are also admitting that they didn’t properly investigate the Rochdale abuse of white girls by Muslim men.
This comes hard on the heels of the Sheffield abuse scandal when SYP did nothing despite overwhelming evidence that Muslim men were abusing white girls on an industrial scale. All this whilst Blunket was the Home Secretary and MP for a Sheffield constituency. In fact one thing that seems a common link so far is that most of blind eyse and looking the other way took place where Labour hold power. Does Labour show any remorse? Not on your life, after all the victims are English and white and we don’t want to upset the multiculty band wagon do we by a few inconvenient truths.
So the list grows and grows.The declared total of white girls abused by Muslim is nearing 3000. I say declared and not known, because it is a fair bet that the authorities know of many, many more but don’t want to declare it.
So we have less than 5% of the population committing rape on a scale that beggars belief. Imagine if the other 95% did the same. And yet the BBC and rest of establishment hardly do anything. If it were white perpetrators, there would have been a massive nationwide effort years ago to stamp it out. The BBC would have been rightly running investigations , Panoramas etc till it came out of our ears. But because of the stranglehold that PC has on our country we get nothing until the authorities are forced to act and then we get a half hearted response.
How much more evidence does the left need before it recognises that Islam and the West don’t mix? We have undemocratically imported much more than a 5th column, we have imported a time bomb. How much longer will the British put up with this abuse and lack of action by the authorities?
The BBc continues with it’s attack on Farage. However what he appeared to be saying isn’t exactly how it appears to be reported. Wheel out the politicians to say who worrying this is blah blah blah. So how come it feels like my race & I are being discriminated against. All I ever hear on the media is the English are lazy etc. of course the slurs are never made directly they are always channelled through a third party.
Despite the bring Clarkson petition now being at 773,174 that story seems to have dropped off the televised news.
They’ve new dragged someone from “The race equality foundation ” (exactly who?) http://www.raceequalityfoundation.org.uk/about-us/ways-to-support-our-work/current-campaigns to talk about how race laws. Any ideas how this bunch are funded I can’t see.
Some links here; can’t really see an answer though:
http://opencharities.org/charities/1051096
Charity Commission
https://opencorporates.com/companies/gb/03121679
http://data.companieshouse.gov.uk/doc/company/03121679
So I would say in my opinion another mickey mouse charity then. The BBc loves having charitys on to make statements. Thank you for that.
Cordelia Lynch covered the story for Channel 4. Lots of sentimental ‘Poles fought with us during the war’ clips. And ‘talking to the public’. She didn’t seem to find anyone who wholeheartedly agreed with Farage. But.. yup … the usual third-party reference to ‘the lazy English’.
Cordelia is somehow linked with Movement For Change. That organisation is rather too close to the Labour Party for my liking. Judge for yourself:
Movement for Change: From David to Ed
Ed and David Miliband shake hands on plan for ‘army’ of 10,000 activists
Lazy English = benefits street surely. Come on ,try to remember your script!
Further up the thread, Dave666 said:
All I ever hear on the media is the English are lazy etc. of course the slurs are never made directly they are always channelled through a third party.
I merely noted that the Channel 4 piece included the same accusation, not directly from the journalist, but from the mouth of an interviewee. The line is never questioned. That’s odd, because it begs the argument that wages need to be higher for the ‘jobs that no one in England wants’; whether you believe in market-forces or re-distribution.
Dave666,
âSo how come it feels like my race & I are being discriminated againstâ
If thatâs happened it would be wrong. Can you provide an example of where youâve been discriminated against because of your race?
i can, local councils that needed to employ loads of blacks, browns and queers, disabled ppl etc so boxes could be ticked so common purpose could say they were diverse and inclusive. all at the expense of whitey of course.
you see the adverts in the papers all the time saying somthing along the lines of “applicants from ethnic minorites encouraged”
in other words, fuck off whitey
Just Sayin’
âyou see the adverts in the papers all the time saying somthing along the lines of âapplicants from ethnic minorites encouragedâ â
Please provide an example where you personally have been discriminated against because of your race.
I think that Hackney council’s policy of advertising jobs in ‘the voice’ a black interest publication, discriminated against me. Did not stop me applying though and yes I was the only white face at the selection panel.
Note I used the word feels. Nothing surrounding these issues is out in the open. The several job interviews I’ve had it felt I was wasting my time before it had started. Why are UK jobs advertised abroad for instance. I have had people tell me stories that agencies have told them certain jobs are not for them they may be lying or exaggerating but why would they? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/02/06/jobs-advertised-in-polish-government-_n_2630397.html
It seems that Weird Ed’s attempt at making himself look human has fallen flat on it’s face with the disclosure that the casual photo op in his North London kitchen, courtesy of the BBC, turned out to be a photo op, justin (get it!) one of his kitchens.
Now I’ve been out of the country and had the good fortune not to see the BBC puff piece on this most down to earth, ‘regular kind of (family) guy’, but if as suggested the BBC had a hand in this deception, they have serious questions to answer.
From the Mail story, below, it seems that the mother of one of Miliband’s God children (I thought that he didn’t do God), Jenni Russell accidently spilled the beans.
That also got me wondering. Jenni Russell? Hadn’t I heard that name before? Of course, it was Jenni Russell formerly of the BBC, some even said a future Head of Radio 4.
Strange that…all of these wheels within wheels. There’s a whole lot of the buggers, worming away to their own ends in their North London cocoon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2992073/Two-kitchens-Miliband-Labour-leader-posed-SECOND-functional-kitchenette-2-5m-mansion-interview-wife.html?offset=0&max=100&reply=79653843&jumpTo=comment-79653843#comment-79653843
Need to forget abouts looks and start thinking about policies independent to what the gutter press are telling you.
I dream of rising to the social strata where I to could have a second kitchenette,
It’s just a fake.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=sham+69+rip+off&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=9ABB2A853DA10FEEFCDD9ABB2A853DA10FEEFCDD
Christ, is anyone watching the brain-dead idiots on BBC3 with Ed Miliband?
I’m speechless…
Sadly I missed it. I’ll record the 2am repeat,
This is very good about The Three Muskelimas –
http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/leo-mckinstry/563342/
Thanks for the link, Mr G.
To be honest, I quite like these fifteen minutes hates as aimed at Nigel, Jeremy, nameless Chelsea lads on the metro. Leveson or Qatada.
Means there`s less lies about the rest of any world events.
The BBC and Channel 4 just phone in the bile, aim their slurry at the same old targets-and we all see UKIPs vote rise, and a further descent of the liberal mind into cretinous apoplexy and splattergun inanities.
We all see it-and the thought of one voter believing the Jimmy Savile Champeens Party of Niceness(Labour/Liberal/Green broadsheet fascists, as blended by the BBC) might be a Good Thing on May 7th is truly laughable.
As UKIP get shafted by the day, it only tells us that they are directly over where the Lefts G-spot in….and a few cherry bombs down the crack will blow them apart…Ali Nickbah!
Apparently the World Bank and German government have told the Syriza government in Greece that they have to immediately ban the production of Taramasalata and Tzatziki. They say that this is the only way that the Greeks can avoid a double dip recession !
Yes I know but it’s probably better than any of the ‘jokes’ on the BBC tonight !
From Discworld-to Stiffworld.
Haven`t a clue about Pratchett-but his euthansia fetish,as well as his lauding by the creeping BBC tells me that he must have been one hell of an atheist.
Blue Peter Garden or Dawkins patio?….let`s have a charity phone in and decide.
Bloody Last Word will give him the full half hour-meanwhile Martin Gilbert dies unlamented by the “grating good”.
If only Tony Robinson, Jon Snow and other bleeding blowhards had been given those interviews and charity shows like Terry.
Oh fudge -Comic Relief-send your bawbees to MacAlpines widow!
‘Nigel Farage says UKIP would scrap much of the legislation designed to prevent racial discrimination in work’ – http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-31838990
That’s either a lie or a careless misrepresentation.
Mr Farage said no such thing – you can watch the video here: http://www.channel4.com/info/press/news/farage-ukip-government-could-scrap-race-discrimination-laws
There is a world of difference between saying you think that racial discrimination laws aren’t necessary ‘in UKIP Land’ (whatever Trevor Phillips meant by that) and saying you would get rid of them.
I think Phillips meant to ask whether Farage was in favour of racial discrimination laws, but Farage thought he was talking about racial discrimination rules within his own party, which is why he responded ‘We are colour blind’.
It was a breakdown of communication, nothing more, but it’s been twisted by media liberals to be something else.
As per usual with Al beeb
America has Ann Coulter to tell it how it is.
And we have Sandi Toksvig, Hazel Blears and Sarah Teather, Cathy Newman and Laurie-Penny Taylor…
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-03-11.html#read_more
Are we stiffed or what?
So the BBC plan to broadcast in North Korea then?
Their spiritual home one would muse….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11464586/BBC-plans-new-North-Korea-radio-news-service.html
“BBC âLUVVIESâ ACCUSED OF USING FRACAS TO DUMP âBLOKEISH ARROGANTâ CLARKSON”
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“Cohen is believed to have been suspicious of both Clarkson and Wilman for sometime, and is now trying to use the row as an excuse to move them out. The BBC boss is described as an ‘anti-racist’ who is unhappy with Clarksonâs lack of political correctness.
“He had wanted Clarkson out when he got into trouble for accidentally saying the âNâ word when reciting the rhyme ‘eeny meeny miny mo’ on the show. The footage was leaked by someone within the BBC and Lord Hall gave Clarkson a ‘final written warning’ over the incident. This left Cohen ‘humiliated’.
“Throughout his career Cohen has been a ‘champion of ethnic diversity’ and is married to a liberal economic professor at Cambridge University.
“In anticipation of a Clarkson departure, both Sky and ITV are putting together highly attractive financial offers. The BBC retains control of the trademark Top Gear, but this might be of little value if Clarkson leaves.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/03/12/bbc-luvvies-accused-of-using-fracas-to-dump-blokeish-arrogant-clarkson/