BBC1 ran the Election Debate tonight and my twitter feed is overwhelmed by people saying how BIASED the audience was. Nigel Farage was met by silence, whilst Sturgeon, Bennett, Green and Miliband were cheered to the rafters. Thoughts?
MOST BIASED BBC AUDIENCE EVER?
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There were distinct similarities with last night’s show and the 2nd scottish independence referendum debate.Most significantly , the 2nd debate was run and organised by bBBC with a handpicked audience of uber SNP’ites and barnacled lefties.
One lefty shouted at Darling…..”Why did you sell off our Royal Mail.”?
The created environment allowed Salmond to out point Darling and remove facts from the debate to replace it with emotion and cultism.
Pity Darling didnt have the Henry Halls of Farage to call ouit the
bBBC STACKED DECK.
The biased B BC ,the enemedia, the liberalelite ,and the liblabcon conspiracy just don’t get it.
Every time they put UKIP/Farage up there to be pilloried in their oh-so-subtle ways ,more indigenous Brits are appalled at their overt preference for the leftist political direction-RESULT…….MORE VOTES FOR UKIP!!
I believe that the English people ,in particular , have an inbuilt aversion to bullies , of whatever type.
Keep it up , Beeb. You are stoking the fires for a latter-day Peasants Revolt ,except that we won’t end up like Watt Tyler.
We have the InterWeb to promote the Truth and we will not be silenced.
In all my years i have never seen such bias..the way the election is going the BBC will dictate who gets elected.
At the end the debate the BBC produced a Poll by Survation(Produced by the Daily Mirror)..!!!saying how wonderful Ed Milland was,he was awful.
The BBC should be ashamed of its conduct,impartial audience,who they trying to kid
It was a disgrace the way Nigel was treated by the biased audience, i could not believe what i was seeing and as for Dimbledork they were selected ! selected from were ? the BBC have some questions to be answer on this.
this was get UKIP fest but all credit to Nigel Farage for standing his ground at telling it as it is well done Nigel Vote UKIP .
Yesterday’s debate was like the VI Form common room. I’d imagine they all went for beer and sarnies afterwards (with the audience) and staggered home shouting “Tory scum your time has come!’
Really hoped we might have moved beyond sloganistic ‘Keep the nasty Tories out’ rhetoric from party leaders.
I thought ,”Keep the Tories out ” was the kippers slogan ,well , you will soon be bowing down to Milliped & Salmond . They will , soon be your new Master`s.
I have made complaint to BBC and Ofcom, it was so biased it was embarrassing! Good on Nigel for stating the obvious. And note when Nigel was speaking to camera was panning around to Ed, who certainly got way more than his fare share of ‘face’ time.
Can anyone explain to me how the 3 woman on the panel think its ok for health tourists to abuse our system, when brits (who have worked and paid taxes) are denied treatment as it is too costly? I heard lots of promises and BS, yet only UKIP have a costed plan approved by respected think tank…
‘I have made complaint to BBC and Ofcom’
I suspect Ofcom will bounce it to the BBC, who will feel they got it about right.
Or they may cite this, from The Spectator, which explains what was really going on (or going on, really):
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/last-nights-debate-was-a-fascinating-experiment-in-human-behaviour/
‘I am sure that David Dimbleby was telling the truth when he said that the audience had been put together by a polling company to reflect the balance of voting intentions’
Trouble for the Speccie is the comments on the page (and FaceBook and maybe twitter) are not really meshing so well with what the author knows to be the God’s honest truth.
‘It’s a bit late now for the BBC to admit it was not a balanced audience. Dimbleby said on the show it was balanced. That is what most people will remember not an announcement quietly released the next day.’
I also made a complaint to the BBC this morning,the poor chap said it had been a busy morning, I bet..!!!
Just watched the BBC news and all they seem to be talking about is Ed Millibands refusal to do a deal with the SNP, sod the great news on unemployment and and the cost of living, Im sure the presenter will reluctantly mentioned it at some time,perhaps he has to get permission off the person who must be obeyed who first will need to get the go ahead from the Labour head office…!!!!
what good news is that then?
Grow up you moron!
As far as I can see nobody has listened to what was NOT said.
The BBC claimed the audienced had been balanced – but did not say how.
I would suggest they probably picked 20% Lab supporters, 20% PC supporters, 20% SNP supporters, 20% green and 20% UKIP.
That makes a perfectly balanced audience! Can you spot the deception?
But what about the 30% who do not turn out and vote.
They should have been the largest group.
You normally have to apply to go to a QT – if you find out in time it is coming your way. I’m sure the jungle drums beat loudly among some sections of the population when word gets out to get your application in. Joe public usually only knows when he sees the trailer on the night that it is coming from his location.
They also ask to keep you on record. So was last night’s audience the result of selection after application or selection from old applications?
We need to know a lot more about ICMs formula for selection.
It is important to consider the question of audiences from the Beeb’s point of view. The Beeb actively promotes multiculturalism.
Former BBC business editor Jeff Randall said he complained to a ‘very senior news executive’, about the BBC’s pro-multicultural stance but was given the reply: ‘The BBC is not neutral in multiculturalism: it believes in it and it promotes it.’
We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News
The Beeb have spent a fortune establishing processes to promote diversity. Doesn’t every programme need a document outlining how it will promote diversity? By contrast, seventy per cent of the population believe immigration is too high and should be reduced. For all their fine words, do you really believe that the Beeb would like their audiences to accurately reflect the population? Their lovey-dovey, happy-clappy diversity-fests would be impossible to produce if they did.
The point that was made was that the audience was independently selected so how is the BBC involved other than providing the venue?
The point that was made was that the audience was independently selected so how is the BBC involved other than providing the venue?
Did seventy per cent of last night’s audience oppose immigration? The clue is in the answer to that question.
But will not release details of the formulae used to select that audience.
A spread sheet of factors and numbers of the audience would presumably allay suspicions.
If you can supply it for us that via any contacts at the BBC it would be a major step forward in allaying or confirming the suspicions of many.
Erm, choosing who selected the audience?
As for multiculturalism, the BBC chose at least two questions from Black people. But for balance, I don’t think there were 23 questions from White people?
I think the correct racial balance for the left-wing rules, would be that there should have been only one question from a Black. So the extra Black chosen under the BBC rules, would have been classed by the BBC as a very nice positive discrimination event.
Just got back from a mission so havent yet caught up.
Is this meant to be evidence angry man?
Tough call.
I was initially thinking the theme to ‘633 Squadron’.
But there seems a higher calling still at play in your considerable commitments here…
‘Haven’t yet caught up’. Yes MOCO, I can tell.
Catch up, review the tape. Then you may have a constructive contribution to make. Until then, your words will be seen for what they are. Noise.
Maybe you can tell me which bit of the tape indicate audience bias and why and how the BBC were implicated in that bias .
Given in the past you have been unable to rationally justify your voting intentions I suspect you wont be able to carry out this task but please have a go. Should be fun.
Don’t bother asking that question, Angryman. CraphamBus is as leftie as last night’s audience. He obviously believes it was balanced because he belongs to the same hive.
Isn’t it strange that as soon as UKIP were hailed as a ‘major political party’ after the 2014 Euro elections, all of a sudden and without parity, it was felt the need to include the likes of Green Party and Plaid Cymru in such debates. Why were Plaid Cymru and the SNP not included in the 2010 debates, after all they had MP’s.
This goes much further than obvious bBC bias, the inclusion of the small parties is of course to close down debate and lessen the amount of airtime UKIP has to get their message over.
The Beeb is a £5bn operation, institutionally committed to promoting diversity and multiculturalism. Resistance is futile.
it is time that David Dimbleby was retired from the BBC, because whenever he is asked to “chair” a debate/discussion involving political representatives, he continuously interrupts “right-wing” speakers while ensuring that those from the “left” are given a free run. Last night, as is not uncommon for such BBC events, the audience was clearly stacked in favour of the “something for nothing” section of our society, as well as the Asian pro-immigration lobby. Does not the BBC realise that such programmes send out a message to the rest of the world that anyone living in this country, legally or otherwise, has a “human right” to screw the state for any number of financial benefits that our political masters are stupid enough to hand out? That is why the election manifestoes of the left-leaning parties shamelessly play upon the greedy and short-term expectations of many of our fellow citizens, aided and abetted by the BBC. As for the problems faced by many minorities in the Middle East and elsewhere today (Palestinians excepted!), as far as many people in this country and the BBC are concerned, they can clearly go to hell. Instead they greedily clamour for more benefits from the state, as well as continously agitating for more money to be poured into that sacred white financial cow, the NHS, when they stupidly refuse to ensure that they lead healthier lives, which in the long-term could ease the financial pressure on that service.
This morning Radio Five “gets much worse” Live had a special “debate” at nine o’clock involving Nigel Farage and the policies of UKIP. Whenever Farage tried to answer the questions put to him, he was immediately interrupted by the witless Nicky “Gameshow” Campbell and in effect not allowed to put forward an effective response. Further, certain members of the studio audience were allowed by “Gameshow” to in effect make political statements, rather than simply asking straightforward questions, particularly if they were critical of UKIP and its policies.
Readers might be interested to learn that John “Red” Pienaar this morning felt that La Sturgeon performed so well last night, that she returned to Scotland with the status of a “conquering hero or even an international rock star!” I kid you not. Please pass the sick bag!!
BBC Biased exposed to the world, I thought old Dimblebum was going to explode when Nige talked about the Lefty audience.
At home I found that it was good for UKIP because the emotionally violent reaction of the audience proved Nigel’s point to the television audience at home, the BBC audience even moaned, groaned and booed at Nigel’s suggestion that the people watching at home were more important than the BBC,s left-wing audience.
BBC keeps up the pressure on UKIP and their loaded audiences chaired by Bimbledum who still retains an air of respectability in the country (God knows why) yell their accusations and provide moral justification for the violent disruptions carried out by thugs in Stand up to UKIP/UAF/Greens/ and the SWP.
“BBC General Election Debate Audience Lied To Bias Crowd Against Nigel Farage, Ukip Suggests”
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/04/16/ukip-suggests-audience-lied-to-bias-tv-debate-against-nigel-farage_n_7082912.html
BBC reporters described Miliband as “relaxed and in control”. Indeed he was so “relaxed” that at some points he came across as arrogant and cocky. Anyone noticed how he obviously felt so relaxed he was leaning on his podium with his ankles crossed? What’s the betting Miliband was told by his BBC mates that he had nothing to worry about as he was going in front of a friendly audience so he behaved just like he does at his stage managed events in front of the Labour faithful. He wasn’t as cocky at the seven leaders debate on ITV & Sky, and looked even more nervous at the first election debate between him and Cameron. One thing I have noticed in this election campaign – Miliband NEVER speaks in front of an unknown audience. In fact he likes the Labour faithful to react with boos and groans when a journalist asks him an unscripted question.
Yes, I noticed Ed’s relaxed posture. He evidently felt quite at home at a debate hosted by the BBC.
“It takes guts to stick it to the stuck-up BBC audience”
By Rod Liddle.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2015/04/it-takes-guts-to-stick-it-to-the-stuck-up-bbc-audience/
The Beeb don’t realise that ALL exposure for UKIP/Nigel is perceived as good by the ordinary folk. They think they’re being so smart but they’ll find out on May 6th that their policy of zero coverage followed by snide undermining will backfire in a big way.
Go Nigel and Go UKIP!!
Have posted this on the general thread, too:
“THE BBC has confirmed the hand-picked audience for last night’s election debate WAS left-leaning – though Nigel Farage was booed for pointing this out…
Out of all the audience members who had declared an allegiance to a party, only ONE THIRD leaned towards the political right.
The Ukip leader was roundly booed when he suggested the make-up of the BBC election debate audience was left wing ‘even by the left-wing standards of the BBC.’
Host David Dimbleby even fired a broadside at Farage claiming the audience had been “carefully chosen” by independent polling organisation ICM to represent the balance between all parties.
But, after persistent quizzing by Daily Express journalists, the BBC and ICM finally revealed the make-up of audience members.
ICM used the following audience ratio for those with a party preference:
Conservative 5
Labour 5
Lib Dem 4
Ukip 3
SNP 2
Green 2
Plaid 1.
This meant that just 36% of audience members swung to the right.
In addition one fifth of the audience was made up of ‘undecided voters’ from the local area around Westminster.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/571208/Leader-s-election-debate-BBC-confirms-audience-WAS-left-leaning-as-Farage-claimed
Most interesting is –
In addition one fifth of the audience was made up of ‘undecided voters’ from the local area around Westminster.”
How exactly were they found I wonder?
And even if they were just rounded up at random to make up of the numbers, to have 20% of audience made up from small inner city area invalidates the notion that the audience was representative of nation
Help needed!
Can anyone tell me of any reports on the BBC website to a BBC response to Nigel Farage’s claim of bias in the debate audience.
I’m not saying there isn’t one, but if there is, I can’t find it.
All I can find is this –
Election 2015: Farage turns on debate audience
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32337937
where have my posts gone??
I posted a couple of comments today(nothing offensive) and they have disappeared down a black hole?
Has anyone else found this?
‘Telegraph’ (£)-
“Ukip says BBC ‘exposed’ over left-wing debate audience.
“Figures released by BBC show that only 58 members of the audience were Conservative or Ukip supporters compared with about 102 who supported left-leaning parties.”
[Excerpt]:-
“James Harding*, head of news and current affairs at the BBC, said that the booing of Nigel Farage reflected the audience getting ‘really engaged’.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11546405/Ukip-says-BBC-exposed-over-left-wing-debate-audience.html
* HARDING: impartial Labour Party supporter, W1A.’
In addition, the supporters of the Left parties were more bellicose and intimidating, so it created a far more biased impression, with non-Left supporters cowed into passivity.
Perhaps the most interesting thing about this disgraceful episode is what it says about the BBC’s state of mind.
Here we are in the middle of a dose fought election, with passions running high. The BBC has been plagued by accusations of bias for years and knows it is being watched closely. Its tele-tax is under scrutiny. It has a strict legal code it is supposed to adhere to. And yet it doesn’t care. Not a jot. It will rig an audience and then just brazen it out when challenged.
There’s a word for this sort of behaviour – arrogance. The BBC thinks it is untouchable. It’s time to prove it wrong.
Being homosexual should be made compulsory.
Bunny; you’ll need to try harder. Your inimitable style is easily spotted. At least Scott was capable of reasoned argument.
What do you mean?
I am very broadminded about homosexuality dear Bunny/Scott, and very considerate with regard to public toilets being used for gay sex. However, I would have to resist the legal enforcement of such activity. But sometimes I confess to feeling irritated by sounds of love making in the next toilet cubicle, and I am aware that one pair of feet with two shopping bags when seen under the door represents four feet. And I hoped that Mr Cameron’s support for gay marriage would encourage them to stay at home watching BBC multiculty and gay drama on TV, leaving the public toilets for normal use.
Posting off-topic non sequiturs.
Farage is a real UK patriot, not without his flaws but shines among the plastic pink flamingos on QT. High Labour may have difficulty with that ‘patriotic’ concept. But how the BBC is able to arrange these ‘dodgy debates’ as being (cough) ‘impartial’ – whilst clearly able to manipulate news reports and events is the ‘dark arts’ that Labour has come to rely on far too much. Even Kate Hoey, Labour MP for Vauxhall has this to say about the BBC Euro Millions stuffed into BBC coffers…. to ‘influence’ public debate in this country…
‘…I have grave concerns about the bias of the BBC when it comes to EU matters. I find the whole thing shocking. The lack of transparency is unjustified. Why does it seem so worried about people knowing where it gets its money? What has the BBC got to hide other than knowing that many of us don’t trust them on EU matters and the need for a referendum on Britain’s EU membership?… the rest is worth reading too as it show the seedy standards the BBC try to hide.
http://www.axethetvtax.net/bbc-tries-to-hide-eu-funding/#comment-22
“Victory for Ukip: BBC backs down and gives Farage his own TV show after debate fix row.
“The BBC has backed down and given Ukip leader Nigel Farage his own TV slot to answer audience questions after an Express.co.uk investigation discovered Thursday’s debate was a political fix.”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/571294/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-BBC-debate-fixed-Question-Time
And who will select the audience, who will select the questions and who will edit it? Nigel, be careful, they will still twist it to make you look evil.
“Why BBC audiences are always Left-wing.
“The groupthink of the BBC and wider media/political establishment means they find it impossible to understand what the wider public thinks or why their views should be represented.
“That’s what Nigel Farage was on about over the biased BBC audience in Thursday’s debate. He was absolutely right.”
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/5769/why_bbc_audiences_are_always_left_wing
To be fair to the BBC, I think that they DID try to get ComRes to come up with a representive sample on this occasion.
But they failed abjectly.
Reasons?…well I was out at a hustings meeting last week, and the whiff of old dope and patchouli from the Green econazis was only matched by their blithe self-regard and complete lack of any effort to think.
All reflex posturings that please their tribe, and enable them to use the buzzwords of the beehive…we all know them.
And the poor UKIP/Tory types simply aren`t greedy, nasty enough-and are far too polite, unused to the bile, mockery and sneering that the self-regarding fatuous left pour on deniers of the true faith. The “right” are Bert Royal as Jackie Pallo, Mick McManus and Giant Haystacks gang up on him…Queensbury Rules in a Mosul Cagefight…nah, he`s toast.
The Left have not been argued with-and can no longer listen or argue a case.
Not only that-but they work in packs…groupthink and will spend hours of disability man-hours in agitating and organising to bring out the fellow Warmons from Greenpeace, Amnesty etc.
So called charities-but funnily enough have never had to open a shop or compete with Marie Curie.
No-the Left NEED power for their salaries, goodwill and to cream off the mugs who vote virtuously for them…and consign the rest of us for landfill.
Reckon the country simply feels that Paul Flowers and Harriet Harman, 13 years of utter devastation might shake the money tree, so they too can be self satisfied…until Yvette comes calling( the new name for ISIS, by all accounts!).
30 years of dumbed-down cultural cringe-and a godawful public education sector-has given us Russell Brands and Chris Huhnes…and the oafs on the bus DO think that “Cameron bottled it, Sturgeon is grand and Nigels a racist who sees lefty bias”.
We are in trouble-Peter Hitchens is right.
Oh-and Farage WAS correct-the BBC did stuff the audience with left:right people in the ratio 2:1…and the BBC won`t tell us what the comments were on their show.
But who`s reporting these things.
Holland, Podemos, Syriza, Clinton…maybe we NEED Yvette as a bridgehead if THAT is to be our future.
“Anti-Tory bias of BBC debate audience:
“More than half were left-leaning voters – with some brought in from Scotland and Wales”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3044258/Anti-Tory-bias-BBC-debate-audience-half-left-leaning-voters-brought-Scotland-Wales.html
“Biased BBC audience said ‘La-la-la… We can’t hear you Nigel,’
writes the Ukip Leader. ”
By NIGEL FARAGE, UKIP LEADER,
FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3045298/Biased-BBC-audience-said-La-la-la-t-hear-Nigel-writes-Ukip-Leader.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490