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  1. Dave666 says:
    April 30, 2015 at 9:35 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3059974/Media-minister-warns-BBC-anti-Tory-bias-Senior-Conservatives-express-anger-left-leaning-slant-broadcasters.html
    Didn’t see much of breakfast this morning but for those playing “Charity” bingo. Todays guests , that I saw, were Age UK and Water aid.

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    • Philip says:
      April 30, 2015 at 2:25 pm

      I found this interesting ‘snippit’ from THIS WEEK magazine from a letter written to The Times by a former Director of the BBC World Service (no less) complaining about the huge sums of pointless overseas aid for charities (response to an article by the Telegraph highlighting the huge waste of UK overseas aid that gets wasted) should be re-allocated… According to Sir John Tulsa (MD, BBC World Service (1982-92) ‘it is time to recognise that overseas aid has become a bloated, unchallengeable sacred cow, carefully protected by the self-interest of the technocrats’… he goes on to say ‘ …it should be reallocated to the BBC World Service’ which he proudly states ‘is Britain’s real giver of aid to the world’. So there you go. Charity begins with the BBC and we should fund the BBC through charitable donations. I hope this means that the TV license fee can be abolished.

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  2. TrueToo says:
    April 30, 2015 at 10:06 am

    The BBC just had to criticise Israel’s efforts in Nepal. They used that stale but very effective device of voicing the criticism through someone else – in this case the ‘Editor’ of the Nepali Times, asking him, “Is there a sense that progress is being made in terms of the arrival of help?”

    Here’s his response, broadcast on ‘Outside Source’ on the World Service on Tuesday 28th:

    “Very slight, very slight. There is still a huge backlog of planes holding out at the moment as we speak….including an Israeli El Al 747 that landed about 3 hours ago and I can see through my window it is still parked down on the taxiway…nowhere for it to unload its cargo. So all the Israeli large aircraft which come and spend a lot of time at the airport … they’re creating a logjam for regular commercial flights. Passengers are spending 2 or 3 hours in the air and 2 or 3 hours on the ground just to get off the planes.”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02pn9cv#auto

    (From about 10 minutes in)

    I guess if he hadn’t been interrupted by the BBC host as he shifted focus to a plane from Delhi he would have complained bitterly about Israeli occupation of the airport.

    At the risk of stating the obvious, those Israeli planes were bringing doctors, nurses, soldiers and enough equipment to set up an entire field hospital complete with an ICU unit.

    But you wont hear anything about that on the World Service. They’re too busy broadcasting interviews with their favourite organisations like the Red Cross, the UN, Oxfam and Doctors without borders.

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    • 43 says:
      April 30, 2015 at 11:09 am

      It’s the number one rule, “do not show Israel in any good light whatsoever”. The social media is alive with the usual suspects denigrating Israel’s efforts in Nepal. Whilst their own trillionaire co religionist’s do sod all.
      I pray every night that the cure for all cancer’s comes out of little Israel, then we will see who wants to boycott, disinvest and sanction this beacon of civilisation in the worst neighbourhood in the world.

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      • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
        April 30, 2015 at 7:11 pm

        Lol beacon of civilisation eh! Would that be the country which has routinely breached UN law and indulged in crimes against humanity. Next you’ll be congratulating Adolph for all his fine works!

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        • dave s says:
          May 1, 2015 at 12:20 am

          You seem to have a problem with Israel. A common thing with our English liberal so called intelligentsia. There must be a veritable goldmine for future reseachers here.
          Once again the casual equation of Israel with the Third Reich. I suppose you think that to be a clever thing.

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      • TrueToo says:
        April 30, 2015 at 9:53 pm

        ……usual suspects denigrating Israel’s efforts in Nepal. Whilst their own trillionaire co religionist’s do sod all.

        So true. I doubt we’ll ever see Saudi Arabian rescue teams wading through the rubble in the aftermath of earthquakes.

        They leave dirty and dangerous stuff like that for the infidels.

        Apparently 4% of Nepalese are Muslims. Nevertheless, I’d bet money I don’t have on the editor of that paper being a Muslim.

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    • Guest Who says:
      April 30, 2015 at 11:58 am

      This goes beyond bizarre.

      As most of the BBC favoured mumblers still debate what they are going to say, when action matters a few have got off their backsides and responded with tangibles.

      Not emoting planeloads of journos, meetings about hashtags or putting in place well-paid hierarchies, but actual stuff and qualified people.

      If the local worthies can’t figure out triage priorities to unload a planeload of disaster relief kit of value vs. whisking Ethical man through the Duty Free, then maybe they do need to be occupied by folk with competence.

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      • TrueToo says:
        April 30, 2015 at 10:02 pm

        Well, at least the locals have so far managed not to cause any crashes. Unlike the BBC. The entire rotten bunch of hacks is a disaster area.

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  3. Umbongo says:
    April 30, 2015 at 11:17 am

    BBC journalism is biased but, despite the money poured into its “news” product, it’s the flagrant incompetence which really grates. For example, this morning on Today Naughtie talked to the political editor of the Scottish Sun – Andrew Nicholl – about the Scottish Sun’s decision to back the SNP while the London Sun put its weight behind the Conservatives. Predictably there was a lot of inconsequential blather but a competent journalist, when faced with what appears on the surface to be an (almost) inexplicable decision, would at some point “follow the money“.
    Obviously, to me at any rate, Murdoch wants to see that his papers continue to flourish and generate profits. It’s more than probable that the SNP will get most/all of the parliamentary seats in Scotland and will, for the forseeable future, run Scotland, more or less, unopposed. The SNP is, don’t forget, a national socialist party with all the thuggish anti-democratic baggage such a party brings with it. The behaviour of its supporters in the referendum was hardly that of robust supporters of free speech. Murdoch recognises that a paper opposed to the SNP – and a future Scottish government comprised of that party – is going to have a hard time. Advertisers will just disappear. After all, who would advertise in the Sun in Scotland if such advertisers knew that they would be highly likely to be on the receiving end of boycotts and thuggery tolerated (if not encouraged) by the SNP and ignored by Police Scotland, the SNP’s very own militia? Accordingly, Murdoch is making his peace with the SNP now and, I’m sure, in the years to come will profit admirably from this act of political cowardice realism.

    Of course, Naughtie is a socialist so I wouldn’t expect him to realise how the real world works or, if he does in this case, blow the whistle on the political thuggery of Scottish nationalism. In future the BBC will have to live with the SNP and keeping quiet about its real nature will make it easier for the BBC in Scotland post next Thursday. Moreover, a pro-SNP BBC in Scotland will ensure the flow of taxpayers’ largesse not only in Scotland but via an SNP-supported government at Westminster. Don’t kid yourself, by the way, that such a policy will be painful for the BBC. It is, after all, the inevitable consequence of the BBC’s general bias to the left and its progressive closing down of opportunity for those opposed to the Narrative to be heard.

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  4. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 11:42 am

    Beeboids’ ‘militants’ and ‘militants’:-

    “Islamic State urges Baltimore rioters to join them… because they have ‘an equal society'”

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/573844/Islamic-State-urges-Baltimore-rioters-to-join-them

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  5. Edited Highlights says:
    April 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    The BBC and UKIP go to War in South Thanet….

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/04/30/the-bbc-and-ukip-go-to-war-in-south-thanet/

    And I’m certain with their very professional approach to law and order that plod will be investigating these allegations thoroughly….

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    • Arthur Penney says:
      April 30, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      They did – “Oh it’s from UKIP! Forget it”

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    • Guest Who says:
      April 30, 2015 at 2:29 pm

      Reporting to the police seem a bit daft, but interesting such a piece has on a smallish online site managed 400+ comments.

      That’s about where the BBC pulls the plug when things are not to narrative standards, and few of these seem to be.

      That’s a lot of unhappy campers, and for the BBC to not just ignore but deliberately set out to antagonise them may be a level of arrogance and presumption they and their political fellow travellers could come to regret.

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  6. Guest Who says:
    April 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    BBC Politics retweeted
    Peter Hunt ‏@BBCPeterHunt
    If he wins, Ed Miliband tells a Dewsbury audience, getting rid of the so-called “bedroom tax” begins on Day 1.#ge2015

    Be interesting if he loses, how many so-called impartial, in-their-DNA, politics-at-the-door, PR-as-media monopolies need to be got rid of, too.

    Not every voter perhaps feels a ‘so-called’ report about a ‘so-called’ tax is the most objective way to pitch news at the last week of electioneering if not trying to skew things to win over those whose votes get secured more on what the state can ensure they retain on the backs of others.

    A bit like Ed did with the BBC.

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    • IsItMe? says:
      April 30, 2015 at 12:48 pm

      Is the so-called “bedroom tax” the extra tax I have to pay so that people in council houses can have a spare bedroom? I just ask because I don’t have a spare bedroom, but then again, I do have a mortgage.
      And why was it okay for Labour to introduce an under-occupancy charge for people renting houses privately, but it wasn’t okay for the coalition to introduce a similar charge for people living in council houses?

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      • 60022Mallard says:
        April 30, 2015 at 1:05 pm

        “And why was it okay for Labour to introduce an under-occupancy charge for people renting houses privately.”

        Can you provide a link to flesh out this potentially interesting comment?

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        • Athelstan says:
          April 30, 2015 at 1:50 pm

          All private tenants in receipt of housing benefit are subject to occupancy rules and have been since Mr Blair’s tenure. Look them up on your local council site. There you will also find how much rent assistance you will receive. These means in practice, you have to pay the whole cost of any additional bedroom over and above the laid down rules and as a private renter you will have to live in a less attractive area with all that implies for schools and social amenities. There is no bedroom tax, there is now parity between private and public sector housing in the matter of occupancy and the amount of housing benefit you are entitled to.
          None of the political parties have any clear plans to provide reasonable rent housing in order to deal with the housing crisis which so adversely affects us all.

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          • 60022Mallard says:
            April 30, 2015 at 2:02 pm

            “None of the political parties have any clear plans to provide reasonable rent housing in order to deal with the housing crisis which so adversely affects us all.”

            I thought that was the “social housing tax” paid by everyone buying a house on more than moderate sized new private housing developments, such that they effectively pay about 30% of the price of the house to build social housing for free on the site.

            Ergo the answer is to get the big house builders to build lots of new developments and bingo your social housing problem is solved.

            Unfortunately rampant NIMBYism makes getting permission for any decent sized housing scheme rather “longwinded”.

            I believe the Tories are bringing forward a full rent system for social housing so that those like the late unlamented Bob Crow on his six figure salary would not benefit from a subsidy from the taxpayer, along with others who can afford to buy.

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  7. Dazed & Confused says:
    April 30, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    Yep….

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  8. Edward says:
    April 30, 2015 at 1:19 pm

    Here’s an interesting observation I’ve made – Watching the BBC News at One just now there was an unfamiliar Scottish bloke presenting some stats about welfare spending. I remember around the time of last year’s vote on Scottish independence the BBC used increasing numbers of previously unknown Scottish reporters on both TV and radio. Is this the BBC’s attempt at holding out the hand of friendship to the Scots to nudge them back towards a Labour vote?

    Hmmn…. Better keep an eye out for more unknown Scottish faces on BBC news broadcasts.

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    • Edward says:
      May 1, 2015 at 3:06 am

      Just as I suspected, up pops Anna Holligan on Radio 5live presenting Up All Night, usually presented by either Dotun Adebayo or Rhod Sharp.

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  9. AsISeeIt says:
    April 30, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Ever listened to BBC Radio 4 and pondered on the apparent blurring of the line between the supposedly balanced attitudes of the presenters of light entertainment there and the sort of stance one might expect to be taken by out and out left-wing campaigners?

    Well, so far as the comedy giant that is Sandi Toksvig, ponder no more.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-26832570

    ‘Sandi Toksvig campaigns for equality with new political party’

    ‘Comedian Sandi Toksvig has revealed that she quit BBC Radio 4’s News Quiz to set up a new political party named the Women’s Equality Party.’

    ‘Toksvig announced earlier this week that she was leaving the topical comedy show after nine years.’

    [Nine years? Seems much much longer]

    ‘”I have made jokes over and over again about politics and, do you know, this election I’ve had enough,” she said.’

    [You’ve had enough? You and me both, Sandi]

    ‘”And I have decided that instead of making jokes about it, I need to participate.”‘

    ‘Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Woman’s Hour, she continued: “So I am involved in the founding of a new political party.’

    ‘”It’s called the Women’s Equality Party. It is a fantastic group of women – and indeed men – who have decided that enough is enough and we need to make some changes.”‘

    Good for her, I say. The more Beeboids that come out and show their true colours the better.

    By the way, Green ‘Pardy’ leader Natalie Bennett has provided us with far better comedy value recently than our Sandi.

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  10. AsISeeIt says:
    April 30, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    Damn fool questions journos union bites back in the form the BBC

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32524339

    ‘Nigel Pearson: Leicester boss in bizarre rant at journalist’

    Which, if I may translate, means : a soccer manager contractually oblidged to take part in a press conference after a match defeat, perhaps feeling his time might be better spent balling out his team (or brushing up his cv?) lost his rag at a journo who asked a daft question. So the BBC reckons he is ‘bizarre’.

    ‘Leicester manager Nigel Pearson takes exception to a journalist’s question, calling him “stupid”, “daft” and an “ostrich”. ‘

    They don’t like it up ’em

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  11. Philip says:
    April 30, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    Two simultaneous campaigns running to ‘End the TV license fee’ petition (sign up here IF not done so already approaching 130,000 so far). Its cross-party (except for the Liberals who would loose their media control empire)…
    https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/end-the-bbc-licence-fee
    She emails us these rather Interesting facts: ‘Did you know that Criminal Court Statistics show nearly 70% of TV licence evaders are women? According the Head of Revenue management at the BBC, “When a TV Licensing enquiry officer visits a property, and finds TV equipment being used without a valid licence, they will take a statement from any responsible adult living at the address. It’s that person who may then be prosecuted.”
    In other words, (to the BBC), it doesn’t matter if the person they prosecute:
    a) someone who doesn’t own the TV,
    b) someone who doesn’t watch it, or
    c) isn’t the one in charge of paying the household bills.
    Just knowing someone who is using a TV illegally is enough to be guilty by association. In effect an open prosecution on a ‘SUS’charge is enough under this woolly Communications Act (2003) the BBC hides behind.
    Meanwhile the AXE-THE_TAX is a long term Westminster campaign against the BBC TV License on the grounds that it is in effect an infamous ‘POLL TAX’ and just as unfair and penalises those who rarely watch it. This PDF is the ‘Political briefing’ that will prepare MP’s for the next round of talks in the next parliament.
    Presuming that there is a NEXT parliament (under Miliband) that ignores all such public and parliamentary petitions and then rewards the BBC with a massive pay rise and more law enforcement with a ‘recriminalisation Bill’ for those that cannot afford (or don’t want to pay) the horrendously expensive License fee for that famous BBC impartiality towards ISLAM and the promotion of under-age-sex perversions (sought after by the not very well hidden within the BBC archives and Labour hind quarters). The BBC PIE network rewards Saviile though to Janner (and many others) due to sudden health problems, unable to recall past crimes and never prosecuted.

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  12. dave s says:
    April 30, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    I am going to acquit the BBC of the charge of bias in this election.
    The BBC is incapable of understanding the ideas and motivation of a real conservative. It just cannot abandon it’s institutional liberal left approach. In it’s mind it is the rational normal body and so are 99% of it’s employees. The last 50 years have seen a concerted attempt by the so called educated classes to deconstruct our way of life and Western civilisation itself.
    It is not necessary to detail the history here. This election is just another front in the culture war for the future of our civilisation. This battle will go to the liberal left of whatever party. They are confident and so the deliberate marginalisation of UKIP is because they really have nothing to fear.
    I suggest if you want an antidote to the situation here you look to the continent. As long as Gert Wilders lives the West will have a champion who is sure of the value of our civilisation and not prepared to abandon it. His speech this week in Washington is masterly.
    I wish Solzhenitsyn was still with us and Orwell ,Thomas Jefferson and Tom Paine and old Cobbett. Good men who knew instinctively what freedom was and are still so much a part of our civilisation. For England itself we miss Chesterton and Kipling and Edward Thomas. England is part of everything they wrote.
    We are not going to go down quietly. We must take heart and refuse to engage on the liberal’s terms. So this election has no meaning for me. It is just another waymark on the way back for those who remain true to the civilisation that bore them.

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    • Charlatans says:
      April 30, 2015 at 3:59 pm

      BBC is yesterday if UKIP form an alliance with Conservative led coalition. For every action there is a reaction!

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      • Phil Ford says:
        April 30, 2015 at 4:31 pm

        I recommend the TV Eye page in the latest Private Eye. Even The Eye (notably left liberal in most things) is forced to admit that the BBC has a very big finger in the Election Pie – even going so far as to spell out to what advantage a Labour victory on May 7th would be to the Corporation and its annual £3.5bn heist/poll tax on the British public.

        Everyone knows this. The BBC really are dimwits.

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  13. I Can See Clearly Now says:
    April 30, 2015 at 3:31 pm

    Interesting dilemma for the Beeb with a week to go. They utterly despise UKIP – witness Brillo’s sneering piece today – but success in hurting UKIP will boost Call Me Dave against their blue-eyed boy. UKIP are being squeezed now in favour of the Tories – IpsosMORI today:
    CON 35%
    LAB 30%
    UKIP 10%
    LDEM 8%
    GRN 8%
    … so the Beeb’s response will be interesting. Meanwhile, Kippers have got another big donation:

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    • Thoughtful says:
      April 30, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      Taking one poll in isolation and laying any store in it is foolish. Other polls do not show such figures and as we know UKIP always perform badly in telephone polls.

      The voting intention figures for ComRes and YouGov are now both out. ComRes’s telephone poll for the Mail & ITV has topline figures of CON 35%, LAB 35%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 11%, GRN 6%. YouGov for the Sun have topline figures of CON 35%, LAB 34%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 12%, GRN 4%.

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      • I Can See Clearly Now says:
        April 30, 2015 at 6:13 pm

        Taking one poll in isolation and laying any store in it is foolish.

        Not just one – there seems to be a trend, although Panelbase have them at 17%.

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        • Doyle says:
          April 30, 2015 at 10:20 pm

          I think this Goodwin fellow is a so called expert on the ‘far right’ which, of course, he lumps UKIP in. He’s a regular on the beeb whenever they want to talk down UKIP … another liblabcon shill in other words. 10.5%, my arse.

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  14. Dave666 says:
    April 30, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    BBc 18:00 news. CONSERVATIVES WILL CUT CHILD BENEFIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • GCooper says:
      April 30, 2015 at 7:35 pm

      If only the would! I’m sick of paying for other people’s children.

      Now there’s an opinion you’ll never hear on the BBC!

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  15. Andy S. says:
    April 30, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    Just watched an item on BBC News by that man of the people Mark Easton. He referred to a study just released that says the life expectancy of a male in Kensington was 91 years and in Stockton-On-Tees was 67 years. As soon as I heard this I thought “Here we go. This will be a dig at rich people and the Tories.” Then he interviewed the parents of baby Sebastian, born in Stockton. Of course they were horrified that rich people lived longer and that they’d hoped for a longer life for their baby. Easton then interviewed four of the local candidates in the election. For the first three candidates, he showed a picture of baby Sebastian and asked them what they’d do to help the child and his future. The fourth candidate (Labour) Easton made the statement “These figures are horrific! ” which gave the Labour candidate the cue to go into his well rehearsed routine of blaming the Tories for cutting council grants, benefits etc. No questions being asked about the difference in lifestyles and diet. We then saw footage three fat lasses walking down the street
    with cigs in their mouths and then some chav waster walking out of the off licence drinking from a can of lager. However, Easton’s voiceover contained class rhetoric and didn’t seem to relate to the pictures. In fact Easton finished off his commentary with something about the decisions of the next government could be a “matter of life and death for Sebastian.”

    Strange how there seems to have been an avalanche of these “studies” being released which the BBC and Labour use to bash the Tories with – which is the purpose of these so-called studies.

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    • Leha says:
      April 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      Who would want to live in a shithole with no money and no prospects till 91 years old anyhow? Better to smoke, drink, take drugs and shuffle off early.

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    • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
      April 30, 2015 at 7:20 pm

      Yup. I saw that too. What you fail to grasp is that poverty is multidimensional. Drug taking is ubiquitous throughout society and is often related to stress.That can be the stress at the trading desk,relieved by cocaine or the stress of hopelessness which is common for those who have no future. I personally couldn’t blame them for taking a drink. It’s a symptom not a cause.

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      • GCooper says:
        April 30, 2015 at 7:37 pm

        You really haven’t even the slightest clue why people take drugs, have you?

        ‘Stress’ is the excuse they make to the judge. Enjoying the ‘high’ is the real reason they do it.

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      • grimer says:
        April 30, 2015 at 10:13 pm

        Stress induced by the guilt of sexually abusing children in BBC Television Centre…

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  16. Geoff says:
    April 30, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    bBC Points West 6.30, a complete hatchet job on UKIP, constant reminders that they won’t win any seats, subliminally telling voters their vote is wasted and pointing out that Farage can’t be bothered to visit.

    Next up a studio interview with Neil Hamiltion who was s***ing himself that he may say something bBc unapproved, the line of questioning about the NHS was not manifesto based, but moreso ‘its OK to have NHS immigrant workers, but not citizens?’

    The interview ended with a snide comment ‘Thanks for standing in for Mr Farage’ which I would imagine is a complete lie, but implying Farage was ‘chicken’

    bBC impartial? Are they £#@k!

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    • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
      April 30, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      By your reasoning the BBC is biased because similarly having looked at the polls it concludes that the Tories won’t win a majority. For you that clearly indicates bias. For normal people that would indicate a logical conclusion of the facts.
      There is only one issue at this election and that is the economy.Anyone with an ounce of brain and a willingness to read a few basic economic texts will conclude that austerity does not grow and economy. There simply is no evidence to back up the Tory spin. Moreover the economy is beginning to stall. There are big issues for the future.Sadly they’re not even being mentioned during this election.

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      • dave s says:
        April 30, 2015 at 7:49 pm

        Your reasoning about the one issue ( the economy) is why I regard this election as irrelevant to the future course the country takes.
        There are real matters at stake not the politicians pork barrel approach which dominates this election.
        As if all we are concerned about is gimme gimme gimme. A greedy electorate and an even greedier elite.
        Our culture and way of life are in peril . That is probably of no concern to you . London is no longer an indigenous majority city. It is becoming someplace else.
        This old and ancient people is in danger of being turned into strangers in a country that has little resemblance to the England of the last 1500 years.
        These are serious existential matters which are not being discussed because the .liberal elite is scared to do so and has no answers.
        We also need to decide who rules the country. Our parliament or an unelected junta in Brussels. In a more robust and less self centered time these matters would have been the province of all Englishmen to discuss and decide upon.
        Today we have the liberal elite and it’s whining mouthpiece the BBC so sure that it has the truth.
        This is the way a country goes down. Not because of economics but because it no longer believes itself to be a people with that compact between past present and future generations that makes it so.

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        • RJ says:
          April 30, 2015 at 8:07 pm

          The economy isn’t a real issue in this election. The Conservatives, Labour and the Lib Dems have all signed up to the Climate Change Act, so under any of them (or any combination of them) the economy will be destroyed. Only UKIP are prepared to challenge the suicidal consensus on Global Warming – yet another reason the BBC hates them.

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        • I Can See Clearly Now says:
          April 30, 2015 at 8:08 pm

          Given the points you make, it’s remarkable that Manon is obsessed with the economy but totally baffling that Essex Man agrees with him.

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          • Essex Man says:
            April 30, 2015 at 10:16 pm

            Foggy I guess you want a bit of” Civil Unrest “, because there will be no Kipper Govt. You have to remember the “Right” are bloody useless at civil unrest , but the “Left” in their student demo types, are bloody good , because they practice it week in week out. So Kippers on the Streets, would be a bit of a Damp Squib .That`s why we need to show the Left, only the Right can run the economy , while the left just crash & burn it ,time after time .

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            • Doyle says:
              May 1, 2015 at 12:19 am

              Remind me again Essex Manlove, when was the last time you detailed any BBC bias?

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        • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
          April 30, 2015 at 10:31 pm

          Well that’s a good yarn but it’s upside down. If we were in the land of plenty then no one would care about immigration. The fact is its all about the economy. Brussels is merely a foil. Brussels has virtually no impact on us at all. Check out the House of Lords recent report on EU powers. As to Englishmen I assume you want the breakup of the UK. With wanting the split from Europe I also assume you have to be Russian.

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          • dave s says:
            May 1, 2015 at 12:31 am

            Interesting that you mention Russia. A real nation state that still believes it has the right to decide it’s destiny. No wonder the EU loathes it. You have a typical utilitarian view of us English. ‘A land of plenty’. Bread and circuses while our land is given to others. I don’t think so.
            The break up of the UK is now inevitable. The Scots don’t want it the UK. Nothing to do with the rest of us

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      • grimer says:
        April 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm

        “a few basic economic texts will conclude that austerity does not grow and economy” [sic]

        Are these the same economic text books that assure us that balancing the government books is not like balancing a household budget.

        Hmmm. What is the national debt again?

        I’m so glad we’re paying £50billion a year in interest payments. I can’t think of any better way to spend it. In fact, we need more debt, so that the government doesn’t go around wasting any more money on hospitals and schools.

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        • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
          April 30, 2015 at 10:23 pm

          Quite considerable but is wasn’t before the crash. Chech the data and you’ll see for yourself.
          As for austerity there is absolutely no evidence that it can grow an economy .There is a history of the research done into this but it was found to be entirely false. The only thing austerity will do is suck demand out of the economy. The only way an economy can sustain itself under those circumstances is to extend credit. Back to the beginning again.

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          • Doyle says:
            May 1, 2015 at 12:15 am

            I like the way they give themselves these everyman-type names – Essex Man, manontheclaphamomnibus etc. What next? Ordinary Joe? Fred Bloggs? You’re frauds, just fuck off.

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        • thoughtful says:
          May 1, 2015 at 12:29 am

          Keynsian economics is what Man on .. is talking about, and in the past it has worked, but past performance is not a guarantee of future performance to quote a phrase and the world is a very different place now to what it once was.

          There are two issues today to the Keynsian model one is that governments are supposed to save the surplus in the good times, but as you’r expect Labour just couldn’t resist spending even more than they had comming in and saved nothing at all for the downturn. The Tories were no better with leftie Dave egging them on to spend even more!

          The second issue is more structural. Because we no longer make very much, any money introduced into the system simply flows away to those countries which do, helping this country not one iota.

          The alternative to borrowing an awful lot of money is too unplatable for most people to contemplate as it involves the loss of nearly all public services including NHS & schools.

          The other alternative of devaluing the pound to half the value of the Euro, which would make imports more expensive, but exports more competetive.

          Quite funny about the interest payments, because the government has magicked the money out of thin air with quantatative easing and given it to the Bank of England, who have then charged them interest for it. Or in other words they pay interest to themselves!
          Of course not all the money borrowed originates from the British government, some comes from pensions & insurance companies which need safe investments.

          I don’t see too much of a problem with the current level of borrowing. My generation has been forced to pay for the first and the second world wars, and to finance massively generous pensions to public sector workers who didn’t adequately contribute. I think the country owes those of us who have been made to carry this burden something of a break!

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          • grimer says:
            May 1, 2015 at 8:45 am

            “Quite funny about the interest payments, because the government has magicked the money out of thin air with quantatative easing and given it to the Bank of England, who have then charged them interest for it. Or in other words they pay interest to themselves!”

            Not quite how things work, as I understand it. The Bank of England introduces money via QE and credits it to the private banks reserve accounts at the BoE. The banks then magically create money from thin air via the fractional reserve system. The banks then lend the newly created money to the government. So, the government is actually paying interest, to private banks, on money it could have created itself. Such is the lunacy of the fractional reserve banking system. On the bright side, bonuses are up in the city!

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  17. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    “Arrogant, biased and bad value for money – it’s time for a radical shake-up of the BBC.

    “Because of the broadcaster’s arrogant attitude, its journalism is being reduced to the lowest common denominator.”

    By Nigel Farage.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/arrogant-biased-and-bad-value-for-money–its-time-for-a-radical-shakeup-of-the-bbc-10216598.html

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    • Manonclaphanomnibus says:
      April 30, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      Strange that you or this site can never provide any evidence of bias then. It may help if you put away the mud slinging in which you seem to like to indulge a look at some facts,evidence etc. That’s what usually passes for analysis. Not the ritual of quoting from the gutter press or web sites which usually have an agenda.

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      • Glenn says:
        April 30, 2015 at 10:36 pm

        Man

        Would you like to provide us with a list of your “approved” reading?

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        • Mark says:
          April 30, 2015 at 10:50 pm

          The Guardian, The Observer, The Indy, New Statesman, Antonio Gramsci, Noam Chomsky, Saul Alinsky, Greg Palast, Eric Hobsbawm

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  18. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    When do BBC-National Union of Journalists’ many chapels make explicit the NUJ’s key political policies in relation to the Labour Party?

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  19. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    “The BBC’s bias is the reason we’re arguing about immigration now”

    By Ed West.

    (Nov 2014.)

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/11/i-have-more-respect-for-labour-politicians-who-defend-their-record-on-immigration-than-those-who-pander/

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  20. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    “Radio 4’s John Humphrys admits BBC ignored mass immigration fearing it would be branded racist by critics ”

    (Dec 2014).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873484/Radio-4-s-John-Humphrys-admits-BBC-ignored-mass-immigration-fearing-branded-racist-critics.html

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    • grimer says:
      May 1, 2015 at 8:57 am

      They didn’t ignore it. They shouted down anybody that spoke about it – e.g. ‘the right-wing think tank Migration Watch’. The BBC were the main cheerleaders for immigration.

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  21. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 8:20 pm

    And the specific relevance of the mass immigration into U.K for next Thursday-

    “Muslim vote could decide 25% of seats:
    Victory in a quarter of British constituencies will be decided by Islamic voters.
    “In 159 seats, the number of Muslims is greater than 2010 margin of victory.
    “Henry Jackson Society said this applies to nearly half the 193 marginals.
    There are also 51 constituencies where number of Hindus is larger than winning majority in 2010.
    “HJS said Britain’s minority religions could exert huge influence on election.”
    By JAMES SLACK and IAN DRURY and GERRI PEEV

    FOR THE DAILY MAIL.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3061596/Muslim-vote-decide-25-seats-Victory-quarter-British-constituencies-decided-Islamic-voters.html

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  22. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    Looking ahead to an Islamised Britain, a warning from Islamised Turkey-

    “How Non-Muslims ‘Survive’ in Turkey”

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5636/turkey-non-muslims

    Of course, E.U’s political class (inc Tories, Lib Dems, Labour, and Beeboids) campaigns for 80 million Muslim Turks to get early entry into E.U to speed up Islamisation of continent of Europe.

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  23. I Can See Clearly Now says:
    April 30, 2015 at 9:12 pm

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  24. George R says:
    April 30, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    Friday’s newspapers’ front-pages-

    http://news.sky.com/gallery/1475541/fridays-newspaper-front-pages

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  25. grimer says:
    April 30, 2015 at 11:36 pm

    Michael Portillo just pwned that twit on This Week. What a tool!

    ‘But you’re the generation with the internet at your finger tips, so please fact check that’

    Perfect.

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  26. Merched Becca says:
    April 30, 2015 at 11:46 pm

    Just watched the tail end of Mr Farage on the box, he seemed to handle the biased audience well even though the presenter kept on cutting in on him when he was making good points.
    Vote here https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/end-the-bbc-licence-fee

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  27. Al Shubtill says:
    May 1, 2015 at 12:53 am

    I found that question hilarious, to Clegg on QT about what job he’d be doing after next Thursday and the future irrelevance of his party – he didn’t look happy.

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  28. Angrymanupnorth says:
    May 1, 2015 at 1:58 am

    BBC Bias. BBC1 30.4.15 2230Hrs 2250Hrs.

    What a night! Ed/Dave/Nick! There was a clash for me at 2000Hrs, so I missed it in favour of a 24-24 draw between the heroic Giants and those jammy guys from Leeds. It’s called priorities. We were robbed by the biased referee, Richard ‘biased’ Silverwood! As always. But that’s my bias for you. He probably called it right.

    However, I just got back in time for the 2230 BBC1 Farage QT with Jo Coburn.

    One can never know whether the audience figure was affected (though it can be estimated statistically), but the program started at 2250Hrs, a time when more elderly or working people on a Thursday evening may have retired to bed. The BBC could have aired this program at 2230Hrs when a wider audience would have been reached. Is this not obvious political bias?

    Farage was on the front foot, with direct positive responses to the questions posed. There appeared to be at least three left armed ringers ready with the odd yorker or bouncer. A health care guy who talked about there being a demand / supply problem, but could not link demand to increased population. ? . That really is a bit dim. And two gals (who were seen chatting to each other) on the front row, both of whom asked a question, one of whom asked the final question (nice one Jo) with a tangible spite in her delivery. N Farage played it all with a straight bat; with the odd accomplished cut though point. The bouncers were lacking pace and the yorkers overpitched. Farage dispatched them to the boundary with aplomb.

    Whilst Farage often plays an innings disturbed by interruption and smear, (he’s been playing on such sticky wickets for a couple of decades) he took this one in his stride. Jo Coburn, chosen to umpire, deliberately interrupted NF as he was completing his detailed and thoughtful responses. NF batted through to complete his sentences which were well constructed. Is this a deliberate attempt to prevent the audience from hearing a complete answer? To affect the result of the game? As umpire, Jo should know the rules especially with regard to ‘Umpire impartiality’ and ‘Ungentlemanly Conduct’.

    And the multi-coloured hypnotic sight screen behind the batsman, distracting the attentive spectator! What’s that all about?

    If not bias, the scheduling; the interruptions from JoCo and the flashy sight screen were all very annoying. And most certainly not cricket!

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  29. Dover Sentry says:
    May 1, 2015 at 7:24 am

    BBC Plugging ‘Global Warming’ and ‘Climate Change’:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32534488

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-32532518

    ..

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    • Philip says:
      May 1, 2015 at 10:50 am

      Its getting too hot for the BBC. Not enough Booze or fags on TV or enough Girls or Boys (as fags) to abuse behind the facade of ‘impartiality’ we know the truth. Climate crisis is regime change for the BBC where they just might be made extinct, (just like the Dinosaurs). An era of national media BBC abuse will be seen historically for what it is now, corrupt to the core, biased to the left, motivated by greed.

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