Well, the day of the General Election 2015 is upon us and here is a thread that can be used JUST to cover how the rotten BBC covers it. I’m afraid I won’t be around for the next few days due to a family bereavement so will catch up the other side of the Election.
ELECTION DAY OPEN THREAD….
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as always the nasty left in action. And the Daily Mail has a slur on Farage for being homophobic today – my faith in this country’s institutions couldn’t be any lower than it is today
I too would consider it a slur had I been described as homophobic, I do not fear them as the word implies, although like most people I find their disgusting practices repulsive!
Get over it. Why do you care what consenting adults get up to in private?
Because he’s entitled to an opinion so don’t be so glib with your f-ing ‘Get over It’.
I never said he wasn’t entitled to an opinion. I just find his opinion bizarre. I honestly don’t understand why anybody would care. What business is it of anybody else? I don’t care whether somebody collects stamps or plays football on Sunday. Why is sex any different?
What could be more bizarre than so called ‘men’ masturbating into each others arseholes?
You caring about it?
They then expect the rest of us to pay for the treatment of their filthy diseases !
If a close friend had cervical cancer, would you think it appropriate for ths NHS to treat it? Bearing in mind that it is caused by the HPV virus, which is trasnmitted via sexual activity? Just admit it, you’re a bigot.
Try consulting a book on anatomy .
Schools don’t teach children to accept stamp collecting as being equivalent to a male/female relationship. Society doesn’t force the concept of stamp collecting into everyone’s psyche and you don’t have stamp collecting marches being arranged, including stamp collecting police officers, at the taxpayers expense. Neither, to my knowlege, has there ever been a proposal for zebra crossing made of stamps.
It is repulsive, to many, so “get over” having to hear it
Get down to the mosque, and really see homophobia
thump the table, and give them your ire
… and don t forget o tell the imam to “get over it”
I would happily tell them, if I wasn’t worried about plod nicking me on a public order offence or ‘religiously aggravated hate crime’
“Why do you care what consenting adults get up to in private?”
Indeed. That was of course the (thin end of the wedge as it has proved) reasoning behind the law change in the 1960’s, but as with so much of “rights” legislation it now appears to have developed to being a stick to beat those who do not think in an approved manner towards its public expression, such as owners who do not want it in their guest house bedrooms .
Being marked on your record as being an “Islamophobe” for not thinking the right way about the adherents of the religion of peace and their lifestyle is yet another seemingly on its way if we get it wrong today.
Vote UKIP, and get an Islamophobia law – if it wasn’t so serious it would be funny!
I think that B&Bs should have the right to turn anybody away – it could be a family home containing their children. if they don’t like the look of a customer, they should be free to say no. Chain hotels are a different matter – buy insurance against damage.
Ultimately, you’re free to hold whatever views you want, I just find this obsession with somebody else’s sex life to be a bit odd.
When it’s time for the gay pride street march in your town or city do you pop out and cheer them on?
Anybody an idea of how the police / local authority would react to a “dogging pride” march request?
Just a point. Labour forced through (if that is an acceptable use of words) gay sex at 16, but decided they are not old enough to resist the advances of anyone who has “influence” over them, but it is quite o.k. to engage with a complete stranger!
There is a plumber near me with a pink van and the business name ‘U-benders’. He always gets a cheer from the market stall holders. I couldn’t care less if a gay pride march went past my house. A mosque opening on the corner, though….
Maybe you have more in common with our ‘conservative’ colonisers than you think?
It does matter what they do in private, because, as will finally be admitted whan all the shyster incompetent researchers have died, collapse of the immune system is caused by drug taking and anal sex with multiple partners. No need to create a deadly virus to explain what happened. The great AIDS lie was a politically correct attempt to divert attention from the adverse health effects of living in the fast lane, and we all had to suffer the lies as result.
Feel free to call me a homophobic racist if you like, but anti-AIDS drugs, predominantly pushed on homosexuals and black people, have horrible deadly side effects, and poisoning them would be a great idea for anyone who was that way inclined. Freddy Mercury died of AZT poizoning, not AIDS, look up the side effects on any official medical website if you don’t agree with me.
I got turned away for arriving on a motorbike once , wasnt really a problem, they dont want my business, and i didnt want to give them my money.
Why, you mean homosexuals don’t like motorbikes?
they might do, after all we all dress like rob halford. More serously havent we all got more to worry about than what consenting people do in their bedroom.
There’s a man wanting to be beaten by a stick if ever there was one.
Keep your deviant predilections to your self please busbomber.
Typical lefty. If you don’t like an opinion resort to violence.
agree Grimer – couldn’t care less what people get up to in their bedrooms – often drink in a gay pub as it is closest to me and get on with pretty much everyone there…in fact I sometimes find the atmosphere better in there than straight pubs where a couple of lagered up morons spoil the night for everyone else.
On the other hand a couple of non-pc jokes shouldn’t bother anyone – I a bald and a bit podgy these days and have heard plenty of jokes that relate to me but they just don’t bother me as they aren’t personal (a direct in my face would be different)
and just read some of the other follow up posts – seriously some people on here need to go out and meet some people who are gay…..they make for some nice people and I’ve found the camp ones have some of the most depreciating sense of humour that is most definitely British
They don’t get up to it in private, they get up to it on a public beach, in public toilets, in bushes in parks. I personally don’t want to be walking along a beach and come across a load of men stroking each other willies.
The Daily Fail, a strange newspaper, bangs on about immigrants and the EUSSR but when it comes to Elections they smear UKIP and tell you to vote for a Con
What do expect from a ranting publication that shoots in any direction.Shame it gets quoted so much on this site.
‘Shame it gets quoted so much’
But the BBC quotes it too… when it suits.
Then, by way of ‘balance’, does not, when it doesn’t suit.
So thanks for confirming at least that the BBC does only shoot in one direction even if, like you, the target impacted is usually both feet.
Which is why have taken so much pleasure in voting for UKIP this morning 😀
I notice BBC London tv ‘news where you are’ completely ignores this story this morning…
Police raid six London houses over ‘cold-calling scam connected to terrorism in Syria’
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/police-raid-six-london-houses-over-coldcalling-scam-connected-to-terrorism-in-syria-10229129.html
‘Counter terror detectives today arrested seven people…. At one address officers also arrested a 46-year-old woman in connection with an unrelated investigation into a 15-year-old school girl from Bethnal Green who is suspected of travelling to join Islamic State militants in Syria in December.’
The BBC preferring instead to go with ‘dozens of Hackney residents may not be able to vote’
‘Dozens’ being a BBC number down from yesterday evening when ‘hundreds’ were apparently going to be prevented from voting.
I sense some BBC narrative building on the vote registration thing – perhaps we will soon hear calls for voter registration to be directly linked to the doling out of UK passports?
As for the terrorism – very much a case of that tricky decision : news/not news.
Jeez ! The BBC has dredged up some left wing fantasist Bigot, who insists Thomas Jefferson owned a copy of the Qur’an (proudly) and one American swore his oath on it. Therefore he opines, Islam is deeply ingrained in the foundation of America !
He then goes on to lie & lie & lie without challenge, that drawing Mohammed is hate speech (how when it isn’t speech) and that Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller are ‘right wing’ because they tell the truth about Islam.
Typical of the BBC there’s no questioning of his lies and no one to put the other point of view at all.
And yet how the BBC loved insults to Christianity and Mormonism.
“Protests as BBC screens Springer”
“At least 45,000 people contacted the BBC about the show, mainly to complain about swearing and religious themes.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4154071.stm
“Book of Mormon musical well received by critics”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-21894697
But al Beeba won’t even show a cartoon of Mo.
“After that some media outlets republished the pictures in solidarity or outrage, while others – including the BBC – have refrained from publishing them to avoid causing offence to their audiences.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4693292.stm
So the BBC will happily offend Christians but avoids offending Muslims.
Bias, what bias?
what would you pay to see an islamic version of Father Ted
That would be an ecumenical matter.
Careful now!
Down with this sort of thing.
“what would you pay to see an islamic version of Father Ted ”
You would probably pay with your life !!!
Would it still have Father Jack in it?
yeah he would come from rotherham
turn out it was Simon Schama
Jefferson did own a Koran. He bought one to try to understand the Islamic mentality. Having read it, he concluded that the reason for the Muslims’ enmity was that: “It was written in their Koran that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman (Muslim) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to [P]aradise”
The First Barbary War came about within days of Jefferson’s inauguration. At issue was the Barbary pirates’ demand for tribute from American merchant vessels in the Mediterranean Sea. If ships of a given country failed to pay, pirates would attack the ship and take their goods, and often enslave crew members or hold them for ransom. When Thomas Jefferson became President he refused to pay tribute and sent a United States Naval fleet to the Mediterranean; they bombarded the various fortified pirate cities, ultimately extracting concessions of fair passage from their rulers. In addition to seizing ships, they engaged in raids on European coastal towns and villages, mainly in Italy, France, Spain, and Portugal, but also in England, Scotland, the Netherlands, Ireland, and as far away as Iceland. The main purpose of their attacks was to capture Christian slaves for the Arab slave market in North Africa.
Funny that we never hear very much about that aspect of the slave trade…
Thomas Jefferson would be turning in his grave at the suggestion that he admired the Koran.
It is a great insult to Jefferson’s memory to distort his life as have the liberal apologists.
Jefferson would have had no common ground with the average Western liberal .
According to Melvyn Bragg on ‘In Our Time’ Thomas Jefferson said he was a follower of the teachings of the philosopher Epicurus. So he could not have believed the ramblings of the ‘Prophet’ of death and destruction.
Is Melvin Bragg the most boring person in the world?
He can make the most fascinating subject a chore.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05sxv75
BBC Toady 2hrs 50
“After a wave of deadly attacks in Europe – involving cartoonists depicting the Prophet Mohammed, the violence has this week played out on American soil – with IS claiming responsibility”.
……. Simon Schama is a historian.
Who laughing, “in this fevered and troubled time”
… loathsome bigotry like this is allowed to have its day
… yep! he means those who wanted to have a cartoon competition?
and … NOT the IS/Islamic Sharia inspired Islamic wannabe mass murderers who thankfully were shot dead at the scene.
no recourse, potted bias SHAME ON THE BBC
Another news station, that actually has the guts to have on an organiser
… gets told straight
Going back to the founders and foundations of freeish speechiness can prove ‘interesting’ at the best of times…
http://clashdaily.com/2015/05/freedom-of-speech-comes-with-limits-watch-megyn-shread-little-weasel-richard-fowler-over-kissing-islams-ss/#
Hi Guest, the video’s no longer available on your link above but can be seen here:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/06/megyn_kelly_vs_richard_fowler_you_are_absolutely_confused_and_wrong_explain_that_to_the_jihadis.html
Tx. Still works for me, amazingly.
But the new one has a valuable transcript in complement.
Sorry, the problem was mine, I wasn’t logged into fb so the video wouldn’t play. Never mind, back to the champagne bottle – I’ll be holding the other one back for Farage’s return!
And on this sensitive day the BBC website election reality check leads with one story, anti-UKIP natch.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32072999
The BBC would save us and them a lot of time if they just had a single page saying ‘UKIP are horrid so don’t vote for them’ and then linked to it as needed.
Are they allowed to do that on election day?
Then again, who’s to stop them?
Interesting that the Loughborough study concluded that Labour had the most negative coverage. Hardly a surprise really;the foreign and non Dom press barons telling how the plebs should vote. Sadly it’ll probably work.
Yeah were all sheeple , but not you a busbomber not you
http://alternative-news-network.net/media-standards-trust-research-finds-mirror-most-partisan-newspaper/
Pretty much. Thanks for the guido Fawkes article. Everything he says is so believable. The research I pointed to was carried out by Loughborough Uni.
I suppose you think they are Marxists too?
Try reading first
This is Guido’s take
http://order-order.com/2015/05/07/media-standards-trust-research-finds-mirror-most-partisan-newspaper/#_@/sLFBEpKnPGaoEg
And no, bourgeois fauxcialists, Marxism has been dead for 50 years , apart for a few loons marching on may day
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/01/in-pictures-communists-march-in-london-on-may-day/
Nice day out was it?
Well it is Loughborough Uni so maybe competence would be an issue? It’s not exactly oxford is it?
“foreign and non Dom press barons telling how the plebs should vote.”
So what did they actually say to you ?
Is this the Meda Standards UK survey that found the Daily Mail to have more pro than anti UKIP stories? It lost any credibility just on that result I’m afraid.
Interesting that the Loughborough study concluded that Labour had the most negative coverage. Hardly a surprise really;the foreign and non Dom press barons telling how the plebs should vote. Sadly it’ll probably work.
Are we to take it, Mr Clap, that your support for the BBC AND Labour is just coincidental?
Or is there some political ideology that the three of you share?
Well personally I am hoping most Kippers will see sense & vote Conservative today, just to keep Miliband out of Downing Street!
Sorry! Postal vote already in – for UKIP, it’ll always be UKIP for me.
If Miliband gets in, it serves the Former UK right for being so blind and stupid. He won’t last long…
I’m completely with Old Goat on this. There is a very good chance that UKIP voters will help unseat our Tory MP in my constituency – and replace her with a Labourite.
I simply don’t care if we do. She is an utterly vacuous Cameroon, whose sole interest seems to be promotion to ministerial rank. She is pro-wind farms, pro-concreting over a deeply rural area, soft on immigration, soft on traditional conservative values… in what sense would a Labour MP be any worse?
Moreover, a short, sharp spell of the sort of Marxist chaos we would endure under Miiband and his Scottish pals might finally bring this country to its senses. There are far too many tribal voters in Britain and far too many who vote Labour due to a warped sentimentality which deludes them into thinking socialism is ‘nicer’ and ‘kinder’, when it is not. It always results in societal decay and economic ruin.
Maybe a few years of that will finally wake the English up to the menace of collectivism.
It’s time the temple was pulled down. Let the Conservative party perish. It’s had its day.
The trouble with Marxists is, OG, it wont be a short, sharp spell…they will put in place people (sleepers) pass laws and sign treaties (Libson for example) that are irreversible – steps that cement their view of the world and underpin it – another example being population replacement. Never again would the left trust the people of Britain after the common man voted for Thatcher and Major in their millions. The British man and woman would have to be tamed and replaced by people who would reward the left with their votes.
Brown / Bliar were bad enough…Miliband will be an altogether more dangerous proposition.
The left don’t do democracy. The left have no interest in the ordinary man and woman…only power and control.
I want a pragmatic right of centre majority Government to rule for everyone, not the left and the ‘Brothers’.
I voted UKIP in the Euros, but will vote Tory today.
Then you’ll vote for more of the same for ever and every amen.
No I’ll vote for a Tory majority. Different from a coalition and a world and a century away from Miliband’s Marxism.
I voted Tory and it’s because I absolutely want that ‘red line’ EU referendum Cameron is now obligated to deliver. I have previously voted UKIP (in the last EU elections). I am simply not prepared to risk allowing Labour (with the SNP) to sneak into Downing Street, so it had to be a Tory vote.
I know this will make some here cross with me; I had to make a judgement and in the end I felt that it was important to stop Labour/SNP at any cost. I am in broad agreement with much of what UKIP say on immigration, the EU and climate change, but the need to fend off the threat from a socialist government in thrall to the SNP was too urgent to ignore. So mine was a purely tactical vote. Extreme emergencies call for an extreme response.
Like ‘cast iron dave’ was obligated to deliver the last one?
Still waiting to hear how you think the mock Tories will be different to the fauxcialists they will both pursue bourgeois moral relativist policies in accordance with the wishes of the liberal inquisition and with defiance of yours
Cameron is not, nor has he ever, offered an honest full in or out referendum. What he has offered is a “reform or out” referendum. He is offering that knowing full well that he can get a few meaningless reforms that will require limited treaty amendments, which Junker has agreed to, so he can claim significant reform. And knowing that all the polls show a majority for staying in a reformed EU. Combine those with those who would vote to stay in the EU at any cost and Cameron could then safely win a referendum for staying in a reformed EU.
He also knows that he cannot possibly get all 27 other member states to ratify those reforms by 2018.
He also knows that most of those member states WILL veto the reforms we vote for, AFTER our referendum leaving us trapped inside an unreformed EU that Cameron will then claim we all voted for.
It’s a classic con technique known as “bait and switch”. Bait with reform then switch to “ever closer union” and leave us all trapped.
I will put in my two pennies worth…
Our ‘Dave’ spent too much time and energy pandering to minority social issues like ‘Homosexual marriage’ which will garner his party zero votes.
He has a huge black spot; embracing fully, the stupidity of promoting diversity in this country which has only spawned fear and hatred among the multitude of races and cultures squeezed into this country. The wonderful world of diversity has produced fear and loathing which will result in killing and maiming on our streets.
However we must keep clueless Labour out of power. I personally do not want this once great country be crippled by strikes and be controlled by Brussels.
UKIP make valid points about trade and immigration but ironically you will definitely not have a chance to vote on this unless you vote Conservative. Unfortunately it is simple as that.
Be pragmatic and patient or do you want to be ‘the last person to leave Britain, please turn out the lights’!!!
which have resulted in killing and maiming on our streets.
Apart from the fact that Blair and Brown were Thatcherites your comments are spot on. Maybe you would like to tell us what a Marxist is,since I suspect you don’t know.
Brown was a Thatcherite? I think we know how seriously to take you now.
“Power to the people” is what they purport to espouse, the reality is somewhat different.
Moreover, a short, sharp spell of the sort of Marxist chaos we would endure under Miiband and his Scottish pals might finally bring this country to its senses.
You underestimate the propagandist abilities of the Left, and in particular their success at blaming everyone else for their failings (just look at what Brown and Blair got away with). And when they have the support of the country’s near-monopoly news provider….
There is a huge threat to our democracy from the BBC/Hard Left, one of the main reasons this site exists.
I agree with you but for one thing. The degree and extent of the damage that would be done to the UK under Miliband/SNP would be so great that even the BBC couldn’t hide it. Think back to the ‘winter of discontent’.
Immigrant who lives in another country. Votes for anti-immigrant party in the UK. The irony.
Sorry, which anti-immigrant party? Is that UKIP? I thought they were just anti-mass immigration? Do you not understand their immigration policy or are you just lying through your teeth to push your hard left, mass immigration agenda?
What a ridiculous thing to type. Desperation stuff!
Vote for the Tories, their policies are cruel and they are in agreement with Labour on more things than they disagree but we’re marginally better than them so vote for us or they’ll get in.
That is the sum total of the Tory campaign!
Worse still there are plenty of rumours of a ‘Grand coalition’ between Cameron & Milliband, so a vote for Tory could be a vote for Labour!
Vote UKIP to keep the LibLabCon party out !
So you want to destroy the economy. Very patriotic
Labour have a 100% unspoiled record of successfully trashing our economy every single time they have been in power. They have NEVER improved the economy.
Why would they be any different this time?
Because Ed’s got a degree in PPE?
Because they’ve found the secret of nurturing money trees no matter how massively warmed the climate is by man-made CO2.
Apparently they are a new tropical variety and the money looks a bit like coconuts but – hey – we’ll just have to get ourselves bigger wallets.
Why what’s the difference ?
Oh yeah I forgot tuppence farthing on the rates
Cranbrook Phil :- See sense. Why on earth would anyone with even the remotest knowledge of UK politics vote for Cameron, Clegg, or Milliband ? Three components of the same ar-se.
Like Old Goat, living abroad my vote for UKIP went in last week.
Out of interest, which constituency do the expat votes get counted in? Your most recent UK abode? I’ve always wondered.
hadda :- The constituency in the United Kingdom, where you last lived/registered to vote.
After fifteen years the right to vote is removed.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
H. L. Mencken
If people vote for Miliband then they derserve what’s coming to ’em.
Hear , Hear , Mr Phil , I think the Old Goat lives in France anyhow , but it might be “Old Bloke or Timer” who lives there instead .
He does.
Bugger. Broken my promise not to post any more today already, but this infuriates me.
Hopefully those who tell us that they live abroad and have helped distort the true immigration picture and withdrawn their spending power from the economy, will stay out there to die, rather than crawl back like so many I have seen from Normandy when they are ill, or the other half passes on to load themselves back on the state over here.
Hopefully if we did withdraw from the EU and have taken residence status abroad they would need to apply to come back under UKIP’s points based system, so would probably not be deemed contributors to the economy.
Not if they were British citizens, they wouldn’t.
As far as I’m concerned, if Spain (for example) has a problem with excessive numbers of British pensioners living out there, then it is for Spain to decide what action (if any) to take. I think all countries should have the right to self-determination and to control their won borders.
60022 Mallard
I presume your acerbic comment is aimed at me ?
Yes I live abroad, and have done so for fourteen years. Why ? because I could. The last time I looked the United Kingdom was a democracy, and being English born and bred am entitled to live where I want.
I served my country in the armed forces and put my life on the line for twats like you to make your uninformed comments.
I don’t distort the immigration figures, because I am not responsible for successive governments deciding how to audit and fiddle the figures.
Throughout my working life I have contributed a lot towards my pensions. Since living where I do I have contributed ten of thousands of pounds tax, to the UK for nothing in return. I also pay tax in my country of residence.
I have family, children, and grandchildren resident in the UK and care about the sort of country my generation have left them to live in. That’s why I voted UKIP.
Your stupid, ill-informed, selfish comments tells me all I need to know about you, I suggest you stick to ‘trainspotting’. People with attitudes like yours are one good reason why I left.
Well said.
Bravo! That told him!
60022 Mallard Does that mean the UK won’t tax our pensions? I’m with Judge Dread on this.
The Daily Mail was so blinkered in being so pro-tory that they forgot to be anti-labour.
Had they listed 50 seats where UKIP->Tory would defeat Ed AND 50 seats where Tory->UKIP would also have worked they would have done much more good (rather like a mega vote-swapping site).
Hate to tell you this Arthur … you clearly don’t but the Mail every day because they did exactly what you suggested earlier this week. Full two page spread clearly setting out all of the seats.
Yes, I saw sense. And voted UKIP.
me too – but Mole Valley not really a marginal
Cameron is every bit as bad as Milipede. If you vote Tory you won’t get a referendum, you will get more immigration, more cultural-marxism, more thought-policing, more internet-laws, more government, more pandering to muslims. There is only one party in the country that isn’t part of the leftist cartel, and I’m sorry you can’t see that.
Well, I live in a marginal and it’s wonderful.
Yesterday the sitting Member arrived at my door. Alone, no campaigning team, no leaflet posting excercise this.
We sat and discussed my intentions, even though my UKIP poster is proudly displayed in the front window.
And having tried all he could muster:
Voting ukip lets in Labour
You’ll not get a referendum by voting ukip
Dave never really meant ‘cast iron’ in his infamous cast iron guarantee.
Ukip is a one person party, Farage wont be there in five years
Farage wont get elected in thanet
Imagine the disaster if Mili gets into number 10
Etc etc
I gave him short shrift on the lot.
Epic fail.
Still, he had to try, it’s a marginal and 1200 going over to ukip will unseat him…..heres hoping.
We shall see.I hope you are right but I fear not .
Given the gerrymandering that will take place Miliband will last longer than you think and I am not looking forward to the whole socialist crap again.I have been through it once but I was a lot younger then.
A Mliband government won’t last more than two years. Unless the people of this country wake up and realise that it has been brought to the brink of destruction by the panoply of collectivist rule (from the EU, to immigration, to education policy, the NHS… there is no end to it) then we will, finally, teeter over the edge into complete irrelevance as a nation.
A few years under that inept Marxist clown might be worth the sacrifice if it means we can finally purge ourselves of this poison.
GCooper
I remember the LIb lab pact even if BBC don’t
‘In March 1977 the Labour Government, left with no overall majority following a by-election defeat, faced a motion of no confidence. In order to remain in office, Prime Minister James Callaghan approached the Liberal Party under the leadership of David Steel. Callaghan had been prime minister for just one year, having succeeded Harold Wilson who had led Labour to a three-seat majority in October 1974.
An agreement was negotiated, under the terms of which the Labour Party accepted a limited number of Liberal Party policy proposals and in exchange, the Liberal Party agreed to vote with the government in any subsequent motion of no confidence. While this ‘pact’ was the only official bi-party agreement since the Second World War (until the Conservative–Lib Dem coalition following the 2010 election), it fell far short of a coalition. The Lib–Lab Pact’s end was confirmed on 7 September 1978,[1] by which time Callaghan was expected to call a general election, but instead he decided to continue as leader of a minority government until May 1979, when after a vote of no confidence it was forced to hold a general election, in which Margaret Thatcher led the Conservatives back into power.’
I give SNP/Labour until Christmas
I believe the fixed term Parliaments act now requires quite a substantial majority vote to bring a Parliament to an end, so calling another election is not in the “gift” of a Prime Minister any more, nor necessarily the result of a no confidence motion.
It required a two thirds majority.
Thank you, although I believe we both mean vote rather than majority.
No, a mid-term dissolution definitely requires a majority of 2/3rds (the original proposal was for a 55% majority).
So if Milband ‘crow-barred’ his way in to Number 10, as he is threatening, it would be difficult (even with a vote of no confidence, as you rightly say) to get rid of the bugger.
Imagine the damage that he will do in that time.
As opposed to the damage the Tories have done. Europe regularly has coalition governments and there is no expectation that the largest party has to be involved.
It’s only considered wrong over here because frankly we are so backward. Hopefully we will also get PR and then everyone gets to vote instead of just the folks in the marginals.
Tories seem to have forgotten that for years they were the Conservative and Unionist party and a third of Heath’s majority was 11 Ulster Unionists. What would Cameron give for that now!
And when that comes up against the reality of being unable to govern… what then?
Chaos.
Mind you with the Two Ed’s at the hem with the connivance of Salmond, that’s exactly what we would get any way.
… the reality of being unable to govern…
AND… UKIP at 45% / Labour 28% throughout the north of England… what’s not to like in that scenario?
“A few years under that inept Marxist clown might be worth the sacrifice if it means we can finally purge ourselves of this poison.”
The electorate have repeatedly shown that they do not like taking the necessary medicine.
After 13 years of government cash growing on trees there is a mindset that the government has limitless funds to spend on “me”, indeed more than 50% of the population are net recipients from the “system”.
Anyone who tells you that is not going to continue is rather less likely to get elected.
A majority on here may think the government should not pay cash benefits for more than two children. It could have all sorts of beneficial outcomes but taking away a benefit is a vote loser. Bus passes are costing way more than ever expected. Make them pay 50p a trip you may say, and I would agree, but we would not get elected.
Can you imagine the BBC adverts “Have you been affected by the reduction in child benefit, having to pay 50p” as they trawl to find the hardest hard luck cases to broadcast to show the heartless government up?
Yes a Millipeed /SNP dictatorship will put in policies to keep them in power , restrict a free press , Increase the power of the BBC .It is very dangerous to assume it would all collapse in 2 years .You may get a “rigged” Election once the Marxists get in , like Hideously White Englishmen won`t get to vote . I am sure that is part of Harpersons Evil plans .
For demographic reasons – overpopulation along with the societal schisms that are already appearing – we’re probably done for anyway.
But I fully concur, we must do what we can to try and avert the foregoing, and certainly to make life as pleasant as possible until that final descent.
Amid the election fever, let us keep in mind Demon, who is having an op at the moment.
I have been through it once but I was a lot younger then.
That was just a minor economic hiccup. Being overrun with foreigners is terminal. There’s such momentum now it’s probably past the point of no return, but a few years of economic gloom might reduce the attraction. Or, at least, it might shake our indigenous out of their coma.
‘….but a few years of economic gloom might reduce the attraction. Or, at least, it might shake our indigenous out of their coma.
Not a chance. The BBC will make sure the blame is firmly placed at the door of the Tories/big business/bankers/capitalism etc. but never, EVER on Labour. They have control of 70% of news and current affairs output and they are the party of Labour.
I thought we’d all woken up to that fact after the years of posting on here!!
I’ve been through it three times, each one was worse than the last !
Me too
Oh Deborah(another), I suspect most of us who comment here have seen it all before.
Seen the emergence of the sound bytes, ya know the stuff:
The white heat of technology
This will not affect the pound in your pocket
Crisis, what crisis
Etc
Etc
We’ve lived through the democracy of the left on the shop floor via Red Robbo, with the instant strike votes taken amongst the brothers in the factory car park, and the secondary picketing, orgreave etc.
Three day weeks, winter of discontent, unburied dead.
Laughed ( not so much) at Peter Sellers in the film ‘I’m all right Jack’
Witnessed Barbara Castle attempt to place sense and order into it via ‘ in place of strife’ and seen it abandoned.
Watched comrade Scargill betray his own members, simply using them as his shocktroops, while he lived in luxury, whilst phase one of pit closures had happened on a massive scale under Benn ( hero of the left, and a literal saint) and wilson, and all ignored by the media and commies, even though it was larger than thatchers.
Oh yes….many of us have been there, and witnessed to 1997 to 2010 Labour government reopening those once profitable mines as fast as they could….last time I looked the count was up to….errr…zero…
And Ive never met an ex-miner who wanted kids and grandkids to ever work down one.
Oh yes….we have been there.
I have lived in that valleys constituency where majority of 25,000 plus was set in stone for a labour sheep.
Oh yes, I have many tee shirts
If either a Conservative or Labour administation survives 10 more years the country is literally fucked, forever.
Hear! Hear!
Well said, boyo.
A medium length suicide note.
And you get a Labour MP? Seems a rational decision on your part.
The BBC is torn. It hates UKIP but thinks they can hurt the Conservatives. However the BBC is worried that UKIP might appeal to Labour voters so needs to play down UKIP policies which appeal to those voters.
Hence in the BBC’s summary of party policies we see;
Green – Axe the “bedroom tax” and work capability assessment
DUP – Abolition of so-called bedroom tax
Alliance – Repeal the “bedroom tax”
Plaid Cymru – Scrap Bedroom Tax
SNP – Immediate abolition of “bedroom tax”
Respect – Scrap the so-called “bedroom tax”
Labour – Scrap the “bedroom tax”
UKIP – Scrap housing benefit changes related to bedrooms
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/2015/manifesto-guide
UKIP’s manifesto uses the phrase ‘bedroom tax’ so why on this issue would the BBC uniquely not use it for UKIP but use it for every other party with the same policy? The answer is obvious.
Whatever you think on the ‘bedroom tax’, which I think is an Orwellian misnomer for a policy I fully support, this is an example of how the BBC is campaigning to undermine UKIP appeal in Labour seats.
Hand outs to make you a Labour voter for ever or a hand up to help you make something of yourself?
If hand outs work why hasn’t Scotland become a prosperous thriving nation able to stand on its own two feet after 40 years of the Barnett formula?
And for all those people being sanctioned by the DWP, the question is what part of your side of the bargain intended to get you to help yourself have you failed to comply with? Not bothered to attend courses, failed to turn up for interviews etc.?
As somebody reminded us the other day if you are renting privately at the nation’s expense the spare bedroom is not funded (introduced by Labour apparently) but if you are in a “social house” with the cost being funded by the taxpayer (if you work and pay your “council” rent it matters not how many bedrooms you have) it was.
The BBC is Tory through and through.They have successfully kept the real issues out of the election. Growth anybody? Ever heard of that one?
Similarly for this site keep thinking out of it and let’s just focus on individuals. But that’s why those that want the BBCs bandwidth set up this site in the first place. There are big forces playing with you. I even snagged a PEP toff yesterday from my Greek trawler. Remember there are sharks swimming amongst you minnows.
Anyone sensible will vote for economic expansion not the retrenchment the Tories are playing for. A Tory win will mean half the population will end up without proper healthcare.
Let’s grow the economy not shrink it. Don’t vote Tory!
Troll.
“half the population will end up without proper healthcare.”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/06/uks-sacred-cow-nhs-amongst-worst-in-developed-world/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2418250/NHS-death-rate-worst-West-Patients-50-likely-die-neglect-US-says-study.html
Half the population already do -the half that pay for it
Vote Labour and more than half of the indigenous population will end up without proper healthcare, despite paying for it.
‘Systems’ are ‘being put in place’ to sort that. Everyone approaching seventy will have a ‘discussion’ with their GP about the need to ‘request’ ‘Do Not Resuscitate’. Of course, the trigger age may need to be lowered to alleviate the suffering of those who ‘only want a better life’.
And presumably 70+ year-old dependants from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Somalia etc ‘migrating’ here – because Blair said they could – will be refused entry?
what a load of shite… what’s the weather like at Brewers Green?
Such an amusing post. Well done!
I suppose if you want to inherit from Granny then vote Labour. They’ll have her on a pathway first time she attends her GP.
Personally I’d rather have a health service that cures people rather than one that deliberately kills them. You, being a Lefty, are obviously OK with killing people.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3071622/Fears-voting-Scotland-disrupted-intimidating-SNP-supporters-plan-arrive-late-follow-counting-staff-police-issue-warnings-polling-stations.html
I find with Scots that the ones who live or have lived in England are open and normal people but the ones who have never left are just a bunch of inbred, bigoted morons. If they didn’t all vote for leftwing parties the BBC would rip them apart….
I live in Edinburgh, home of the Scottish Enlightenment. There are very very few party posters in windows, and none at all in the streets round me. It’s all low key. From what I hear from the people I know the only discussion is whether to tactically vote Labour against the SNP. The polls and scenes in Glasgow don’t describe my experience.
What is on TV is West Coast Glaswegian bigotry. Usually reserved for religion and football, it is now very much along political lines. In fact there have been several PLO flags in Glasgow Celtic crowds lately, despite having one or possibly two Israelis in their squad.
The rest of Scotland is not like that.
Murphy, Sturgeon, etc – all Weegies.
I’d go along with that. The main change I’ve seen is far fewer Labour posters in the windows than normal and a few more SNP ones, but not as many as you might expect from the polls. My gut feeling is that Labour will get back in in my constituency of Edinburgh South, partly due to tactical voting.
The intimidation you read about is largely a Weegie phenomenon.
Roland, I’m Edinburgh South also and voted tactically for Labour – through gritted teeth. Murray has been an active MP and impressed at the hustings while the SNP guy was dire, but if Murray gets in again it will be thanks to tactical voting.
Prophet Zebadiah Abu-Obadiah
Standing for election in South Thanet and woefully under reported by the BBC.
With his election literature getting him reported to the Political Correctness Enforcement Squad who couldn’t find anything politically incorrect in the quasi terrorist message have said they will stay in the donut shop.
The election leaflet front cover says “make Britain pay” and inside says “We do not care if you vote for us. Our victory is as certain as the collapse of your world as you know it.”
So some nice lefties who will probably poll the fewest votes in the whole of the country !
On my ballot paper here in deepest darkest Surrey, is the ‘Cannabis is safer than alcohol party’. I’m assuming they wont get any votes at all as they will be all too stoned to remember what day it is!
A vote here for UKIP puts one in the small thousands, where the good idiots of this constituency still vote LibDem. I voted with my conscience and voted UKIP.
There are restrictions on what British broadcasters can transmit on election day, but it didn’t stop Victoria Derbyshire reading out an email, just now on BBC News, from a pregnant viewer who claimed that she is on a zero hours contract but has had her hours cut due to being pregnant.
Eh? How does that work? She’s had her hours cut even though she’s on a zero hours contract? Surely that is a joke right?
Out of all the emails and texts the BBC must receive, they picked out THAT one to read out to the nation.
I am beyond furious!
Apologies if previously posted
http://order-order.com/2015/05/06/bbcs-head-in-hands-over-victoria-derbyshire-show/#_@/eTY0su1nLY2p1A
http://t.co/cg539OxZu0
I remember some years ago when it (she) was working on Five Live, doing a phone in following one of the banking scandals.
She screeched down the microphone, in mock outrage…’Where can you find a bank that you can trust, nowadays?’
Cue the next but one caller….’I bank with the Co-operative Bank’
Contrived, choreographed, not very subtle, predictable….and as it turned out, hoist on her own petard. It wasn’t many months later that the bank imploded and we learned all about it’s boss…the Crystal Methodist.
Not only that but she is now interviewing a group of people with Downs Sydrome about how difficult it is to get paid work.
I am all for every one having paid work but why this discussion today of all days.?
‘….a pregnant viewer who claimed that she is on a zero hours contract but has had her hours cut due to being pregnant…’
And of course we will never know if it is true? what the real circumstances were?…or even if the person is real or is simply the creation of a political activist or worker in Labour HQ (or the BBC).
I have noticed many many times that the BBC allow some truly ludicrous audience comments to be aired. I agree with you wholeheartedly that it is very doubtful these types of comments are in any way genuine.
‘didn’t stop Victoria Derbyshire reading out an email, just now on BBC News, from a pregnant viewer who claimed’
One degree of separation.
And when you control who is invited, who gets asked and who gets quoted in the edit, it rather puts the message of gets broadcast in the hands of those in control.
Did anyone hear a report spread over three days on The World at One, about a chap from Northern Ireland who claimed he was used in high level gay sex orgies in London in 1975? Apparently, the senior Conservative politicians at the gay orgy were busy celebrating Mrs Thatcher being elected as Conservative leader, followed by a spot of sex with rent boys. He had a diary from the time, but after showing it to the BBC, decided to burn it, as you do with vital evidence. The BBC just thought that the week of a general election would be a good time to mention all this, and why not?
Be prepared to get even more annoyed. Scroll down to the picture of the pencil over the ballot paper. Guess which party the pencil is hovering over.
Scroll to the next one where the ‘X’ has been added and see if you can see which party has not been chosen …
NB Guido pointed this out several hours ago and yet the photos are still there.
I just had another look.
Had to love the final image of a typical voting paw being used, no doubt to ensure the lesbian biker chick community is not offended. That or Eddie Izzard is retaining water.
However, you are right and those coincidences just keep piling up.
Image 4 (Illustration 1, point 2) has the red cross on ‘Candidate 3’.
Image 6 has the pencil hovering over ‘Candidate 3, Labour’.
Image 7 sees the cross now entered on ‘Candidate 3, [obscured…ish. Tantalising hint as to which Candidate at 2, not chosen])
That, at the very least, seems… ‘consistent’.
Just the way these things work out, of course, but funny how they do ‘work out’ in certain ways, especially since Ed Miliband let picture editors of BBC integrity know that their futures depended on getting Candidate No. 3 in power by any means, fair or foul.
I just hope the left wing in this country, that is becoming increasingly vile, anti-British, anti-democratic and fascist in its behaviour, gets a bloody nose that it doesn’t recover from today. This election really is a turning point for the UK. If ever there was a time when every decent citizen was required to do their duty, this is it.
A turning point would be if the electorate saw the tragedy of open-door immigration. This will not be that turning point.
This election campaign has been deeply depressing for me. I have never seen so much open hatred coming from the left towards both the Conservatives and UKIP. It makes me wonder who exactly are the “compassionate” voters out there, because it certainly isn’t those on the left!
Sorry, Steve, but I thnk we are past the turning point. The Left, fast becoming The Hard Left, have steadily infiltrated the country’s institutions i.e. the BBC, education, science, the police, health, charities – not to mention subversive campaign groups such as the UAF, Hope Not Hate etc. who behave like branches of Hitler’s SS – that politics is fast becoming irrelevant.
http://order-order.com/2015/05/07/how-to-vote-labour-says-bbc-website/#_@/k-St7kGI92aoJQ
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This really takes the biscuit.
Any sales rep or marketer will tell you how powerful it can be to subtly highlight the choice you want them to make (by nodding your head if you want them to say ‘yes’, for example). Psychologists have a term for it – anchoring.
I hope that the other parties complain to the BBC about this in the loudest and strongest possible terms.
Parties complaining seldom works well for them.
Mind you, the public doing so doesn’t have much effect either.
This one is pretty blatant, but clearly can only fall under ‘bias’ category, which makes the CECUTT drones fall about laughing when they come in.
Will be interesting to see the responses that come back.
I suspect a fair few will write in enough that the BBC needs to rush out a quick, template ‘we note you… but sod off… we value your input’ dismissal in hope most do not persist.
At the end of the day an ECU Director or Trust Appeal Committee (with the wife of a staffer who is tweeting non-stupid stuff under his ‘views my own, but I work for the BBC’ persona will get comfortable in their belief that this was just a happy coincidence.
Again.
The BBC have a handy guide about how to vote – naturally with the subliminal advice that it should be for Labour…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32584350
My last comment today.
Michael Foot is reputed to have written the longest suicide note in history.
I just hope that the wisdom of many posters on here will not be collected together to produce something as equally effective, but far more damaging to the nation by its result.
Perhaps like the U-boat commander in the the Dads Army scene the names have been noted in a little book and if it all goes tits up as a result and they have the temerity to write in to complain about some aspect of policy being visited upon them the response must be to ask what did you do in the war?
The response presumably being “I passed. I voted UKIP!”
Yawn.
You’ve taken one of the most hackneyed cliches going – i.e. “If you don’t vote, you have no right to complain.” and turned it into ‘If you didn’t vote Tory, you have no right to complain’.
Give me a break.
If labour get in I will blame 2 groups of people.
Firstly and most responsible are the mindless, illogical and ignorant idiots who voted labour.
Secondly I will blame the useless sell-outs in the tories who have absolutely failed to provide an effective, or significant alternative to labour.
“far more damaging to the nation by its result.”
Sorry old chap, collectively the last 18 years of government of red and bluey yellow have already damaged the country beyond repair. I voted Tory last time around for immigration in the tens of thousands and a cast iron promise, what went wrong? Things have got worse!
Have dug out my Bic marker to trot of to the polling station with the dog when I get home and vote UKIP in a Tory/Labour marginal, why you ask, because I want f’ing change! and that won’t happen voting red or blue….
Oh and don’t blame the coalition for the failure of Cameron’s promises.
Steam loco Mallard ” I passed, I voted UKIP!”
Really ?
Well the that makes you a prize idiot doesn’t it. Maybe you can tell us how they are going to grow the economy and give us a laugh.
F**k the economy, firstly sort immigration and the EU and as if by magic we will start to see the wood for the trees…
”how they are going to grow the ECONOMY ”
Groan.
The Somalis will bring their wealth with them to share with us. What’s not to like?
Great ! So we shouldn’t worry about the economy,the most important element of a society and just worry about foreigners and the EU that a Tory report just disclosed has very little influence on Britain.
Ok so let’s pretend there are no more foreigners,no Scotland and no EU. Then what. Everything suddenly sorts itself out does it?
Manon; usually after Labour is found out on ‘investment’, it is a generation before another set of naïve fools fall for the nonsense again. But you seem to have learned nothing.
“Everything suddenly sorts itself out does it?”
Suddenly no, it will take a generation. We need to tackle our our feckless as well, immigration masks a whole host of problems both economically and socially. We need to reinstall a sense of pride of being British, something that lefty tw@ts like you have, by design destroyed by playing divide and conquer.
A cohesive and united nation is a strong nation socially and econically.
Leaving aside the slippage on civilised debate… again… this ‘us’ you keep invoking being…?
Civil society
You speak on behalf of civil society?
Got it. But thanks for the heads up. Sometimes it hasn’t been entirely obvious.
Think he might mean “civic”, given that “civil” means polite, and he ain’t…
By getting out of the straightjacket which is the EU and engaging and trading far more productively with the 95% of world consumers outside the EU.
We can balance the budget by replacing overtaxing and overborrowing with an export led boom. Exporting seems to work well for China’s economy. We should do that. We need businessmen negotiation our trade arrangements, not a bureaucrat from Belgium.
You give off more smoke than a North British class 21. I won’t tell you what happened to them, you look for yourself.
Just voted and was aware that the pencil mark could be erased if one takes an effort. Suggest biro or press very hard to make an indentation on the paper.
Yes folks remember the communists with a rubber under your bed!
Manon, good to see you are still here. I thought your contract only lasted until the election.
You should know that election fraud does take place – as in Tower Hamlets and more will be revealed later this week.
Funny old world, I remember my father and others during the 1940s- 50s elections defiantly wearing their red rosettes as they marched to vote for a party they believed stood for the low paid.
This is like having a fit of the deja vus on Groundhog Day.
FFS when will everybody learn ClappedTwat just comes on here to disrupt, time and again, with the same old shit-brained Leftist Labour/BBC arguments?
Stop giving him credibility – if you’ve crucified his full-of-Balls economics once, don’t do it again or he’ll just keep coming back for more!
The BBC are running an HIV/AIDS story today interviewing Elton John on the news. A crafty subliminal link to the UKIP HIV/immigrant policy painting them as bad guys.
They are still rooting for Labour as they have throughout the campaign despite the election purdah.
Keep taking the tablets,you have become delusional.
I thought that was a pretty straight forward interview.Maybe I missed some of it.
Why do they pretend it’s a secret ballot ? when each ballot paper has a unique reference number on it which can be matched up to your name and address.
Apparently, they are scanned in a nondescript warehouse in Scotland – votes tallied to voters. Personally, I couldn’t give a shit – I voted UKIP (as I’ve done since 2007, at least)
In a fair, civilised society it matters little if the ballot papers are held in a bunker for eternity. Unfortunately we don’t live in one of them …
If they ever kick my door in, looking to round up the UKIP voters, I’ll go with a clean conscience – after I’ve hacked a few of them up with a meat cleaver.
Actually as a form of protection – If I went in to the booth today only to be told that I had already voted by post then they could tie up the fraudulent postal vote with the one I wanted to cast.
(In fact there was no problem and I voted for the political party most likely to defeat Labour where I live. I understand you are not supposed to say for which party you voted until 10.00pm)
I don’t think you’re supposed to say who somebody else voted for. You can tell people who you voted for.
I’ve just placed a £200 bet on Labour to win my constituency. That should be enough to jinx their chances.
LOL. You and me both. The RSPA got a court injunction out on me to stop me placing bets on the horses. Apparently too many of them were being shot after the race … 😉
The Daily Express support UKIP so there is an alternative to the Daily Mail. I have made the move and suggest others to do the same.
That’s assuming we have had a truly democratic and balanced period of electioneering, which sadly we haven’t. UKIP would be a much more viable option if it weren’t for smear campaigns and scaremongering on a relentlessly huge scale.
Unfortunately I had no choice but to vote tactically.
You always have a choice. You just made the wrong one*
* In my humble opinion, obviously. Vote how your conscience tells you. Oh wait… 😉
I was a floating UKIP/Tory voter anyway, so I didn’t vote against my principles.
I have lived and worked away from the UK for 18 years.
The last election I saw in Singapore was far more balanced from the point of view of the media coverage than here. A “self censored” media there is less biased. Shame on BBC and ITV.
Singapore is an example of what Britain could be. But for a start look at the calibre of their PM http://www.biznews.com/light/2015/05/07/singapore-pm-gets-kudos-for-c-soduku-solver/
So much of the advertising produced by ad agencies is of a subtle nature looking to reach the subconscious mind with imagery. My creative director made the first ever two minute commercial in the early 70s for the Ford Capri. It featured Martin Shaw driving across Europe and picking up a hitch hiker. The commercial allowed the viewer to examine the features of the car without being overtly sold to while he, a married man, flirted with his female companion. Wrong on so many levels today! It was hugely liked and partly responsible for the success of the car. By chance Martin Shaw was back the BBC last night playing George Gently. The whole hour and a half plot was an homage to the poor working man taken advantage of by the posh, rich ruling elite. And this was verbalised by George Gently (gently does it) more than once. Probably a coincidence, but let’s face it powerfully moving stuff the night before the election
This one? £1215, bargain! innocent days when men were men and women were women!
https://youtu.be/y-ZCj4T_064
That’s it. Looks a bit naff now! So cool then.
Sorry for your loss DV
The total engagement from my safe tory seat MP (Oliver Heald (what a wanker)) was a tiny flyer worth about 0.01p,…………Yet, heald is still arrogant enough to expect me to vote for him………..You must be joking OH. I don’t care about tactical voting. My principles remain pure and I vote for what I think. I do not join in with any corruptive tactical voting, thank you.
Sorry, everyone I have posted this and just realised it has nothing to do woith bbbc bias…..loool
He is my mp also. You would not think there was an election on in this area. Still maybe enough have voted for UKIP to give him a scare, maybe even to unseat him!
If as a consequence of voting UKIP your MP will be replaced by a Labour MP trust me the BBC will be delighted. There will be champagne bottles in the corridors – not just the Marxists looking forward to the destruction caused by five years of Miliband-Salmond but the BBC will have secured its position.
If as a consequence of voting UKIP your MP will be replaced by a Labour MP trust me you wont be able to tell the difference
Trust me you will.
Trust me you might (though I doubt it) I wont
If you have a Labour-SNP government you will notice a difference. If you honestly believe that all governments are the same then why vote at all? If however you think that the UKIP is going to form the government, you are an idiot.
I believe that as it stands which ever of the ‘heritage’ parties forms a government the same liberal establishment will run the country
Whether Dave or Ed they will rule by the consent of the self appointed patrician class –
A good result for UKIP will make them fear the judgment of the electorate more than the opprobrium of the Guardian/BBC axis
You might be satisfied with the status quo but I’m not nor are millions of others who don’t vote
Idiot maybe, but better that than a defeatist coward
“A good result for UKIP will make them fear the judgment of the electorate more”
If it results in a Labour government, precisely the opposite my friend. The Labour Party will pay as much attention to you as the BBC does now, actually rather less.
“defeatist coward”
You really don’t understand how elections work do you.
You really don’t understand that there is no fundamental difference between Labour and the Tory parties, they are bourgeois liberals that differ only by degree
“You really don’t understand that there is no fundamental difference between Labour and the Tory parties, they are bourgeois liberals that differ only by degree”
Either they differ or they do not differ. If they differ you make my point for me. If they are all just “bourgeois liberals” in your eyes you are beginning to sound like a Fascist. You will be ranting about gays and Jews next.
Precisely. They all care far more about what their dinner party chums think of them, than what is good for the country. Absolutely no morals at all – yet they perceive themselves as ‘enlightened’.
Show me a Country that does not have a self-interested elite that live off the backs of the taxpayer. Can you name one? You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
No he lives in hope whereas you live in fear
A swing of 50 per cent plus. I do not think so. But the larger the share of the total vote UKIP get , the more say they will have, even if they only get 2 or 3 seats.
2-3 seats and five years of Labour-SNP government.
Against the same old same old for ever and ever- I’ll take it
Getting peeved by the discovery that most people are to the Left of you politically, and responding by ensuring that people even more to the Left of you form the next government, is the thought processes of an idiot.
Thinking that all UKIP voters are dissatisfied Tories is the thought process of the isolated
“There is a very good chance that UKIP voters will help unseat our Tory MP in my constituency – and replace her with a Labourite.”
Says GCooper proudly. Dispute his analysis if you can.
“Dispute his analysis if you can.”
Why it makes no fundamental difference
Suggest you read desparatedan’s post below for the reason, its really not that difficult to work out. I’ll be doing the same here in my currently Tory/Labour marginal.
“its really not that difficult to work out”
But too difficult for you it seems.
On the contrary, ’tis you that doesn’t get it.
People will work out that something is desperately wrong when the SNP with just 8% of vote share will be ruling the English, time for a change!
By voting UKIP you are effectively voting Labour-SNP i.e. Parties which will not give you a referendum on the EU. Again, you do not seem to understand how democracies work.
It is early in the morning and only 3 results in yet, but it looks like UKIP are hurting labour and lib-dems more than the tories.
5 years of rampant immigration, multiculturalism, and political-correctness, and this idiot thinks the Tories are somehow different to Labour or the SNP. They aren’t. Well done, your Tory vote has consigned this country to another 5 years of EU rule and cultural dilution. The truth is that your own views are closer to the SNP than you will admit, otherwise you would see the Tories for the left-wing plague they are.
but my point will be made, if the 15% all tactically vote tory or otherwise, it will be spun as we all love immigrants and the eu, conversation over before its even begun.
If there is a Conservative government there will be a referendum on the EU. If there is a Labour-SNP government there won’t be a referendum on the EU. So do you want a referendum or not?
No ‘Cast iron Dave’ will renege again – he’s already obfuscating with his talk of ‘in or out of a reformed EU’
Its another 3 card trick
Cameron has made it clear that a Euro referendum is non-negotiable condition of any future coalition. Using that as an argument AGAINST the Conservatives, and as a consequence of your vote enabling a Party who are AGAINST an EU referendum to become the government, is (if you want an EU referendum) the reasoning of an idiot.
Again with the idiot but not addressing the fact that Cameron has already hedged his bet
I think your as disingenuous as your hero.
“your hero”
In a democracy you do not vote for “heroes” you vote from amongst the politicians on offer who are attempting to form the government.
Again, you do not seem to understand democracy.
I can do no better than quote Geoff above
“On the contrary, ’tis you that doesn’t get it.”
Wild is making a fool of himself. Not for the first time.
He clearly doesn’t understand anything beyond win and lose. Ideas like influence within the Consservative party and the consequences of a significant rebuff to ‘modernised’ Conservatism, with the likely effect on Cameron, WIlletts, Letwin et al, don;t figure in his binary model.
Let alone understanding that Cameron, having once been proved a shameless liar, should never be trusted again.
“He clearly doesn’t understand anything beyond win and lose.”
LOL. You are right!
Hi Mr Wild , I `ve been posting much of what you have been saying for the last few months ,only to be shouted down , by Foggy , Noggin the Nog , Dave s ,Geoff & others . They are convinced of a Kipper victory , but even with a handful of seats , they would need the Tories to get a referendum.They think if the Marxist Millipeed /SNP get in it would all collapse within a few months . Incredible damage would be done to the country in that time. It doesn`t pan out Millipeed would call another election very soon if ,ever . The right are just crap at street protests , very little would happen, except Millipeed would keep himself in power like Mugabe.
Cameron has only pledged a referendum if he fails to deliver ambiguous “reforms”, and we all know how reliable his pledges are…
there may be a referendum, unless any partners block it, which they would, camerooon will be happy they will be happy eveyones a winner. Even if there is one there will be liblabconsnpplaid alliance campaigning to stay in, and the scots threatening too spit their dummy out again if we leave all ably supported by the beebs propaganda machine
Excellent point, my UKIP vote and very likely my OH’s will be cast in a few hours.
Dave could have walked this by offering a referendum this year, no one believes him anymore.
That reaction has a technical name; it is called “Cutting off your nose to spite your face”.
Either Cameron is offering a referendum on the EU or he is not. Either Miliband is offering an referendum on the EU or he is not.
Will you be editing this after a reply is made ?
That’s pretty low
I do not edit what I say in response to a reply. I may change it slightly (in the few minutes available to me) once I have posted, but not in the light of a reply.
So it was just a coincidence that you called me a NAZI after I replied to you then?
No wonder you like Cameron so much
Actually what I said is
“If they are all just “bourgeois liberals” in your eyes you are beginning to sound like a Fascist.”
Still dissembling- what you actually said was
” If they are all just “bourgeois liberals” in your eyes you are beginning to sound like a Fascist. You will be ranting about gays and Jews next. ”
originally having likened me to Putin and only adding the Jews and gays slur it after I had replied to you on another post
Perhaps you would like to point to were I have done either on here or elsewhere
(I post as Stewart on disqus and my record is freely available there)
‘Still dissembling- what you actually said was
“If they are all just “bourgeois liberals” in your eyes you are beginning to sound like a Fascist. You will be ranting about gays and Jews next. ”’
Yes indeed. We can all read. I was selecting the relevant bit. I can quote the whole post if you like.
‘“You really don’t understand that there is no fundamental difference between Labour and the Tory parties, they are bourgeois liberals that differ only by degree”
Either they differ or they do not differ. If they differ you make my point for me. If they are all just “bourgeois liberals” in your eyes you are beginning to sound like a Fascist. You will be ranting about gays and Jews next. ‘
If you call that dissembling you ought to renew your acquaintance with a dictionary.
Again. I repeat. We can all read.
“originally having likened me to Putin”
When I posted it I originally said Putin. Correct. I changed it to Fascist after seeing it posted, because I thought there was a chance the Putin reference might go over your head. I wanted you to be clear what I was saying.
He can offer what he pleases.
Whether we are stupid enough to believe a proven liar is another matter altogether.
So be it, tactical voting is how we find ourselves where we are today, once we’ve cast our votes the LibLabCon cabal couldn’t give a sh1t, where was gay marriage in the manifesto?
Cameron can offer all he wants, cast iron he ain’t….
Cameron will NOT give us a referendum. Period.
Cameron is a self serving, grasping, consistent liar … he and his divisive Tory toff traitors that hide their agenda, and lie to the public deserve nothing
The Tory “a lie a day” election, I ll be glad to see the back of it, and their gutter smear electioneering.
This Anjem chap… the UK media (and a lot of pols) once indulged him, and quite respectfully and neutrally, a fair bit.
http://clashdaily.com/2015/05/you-should-be-killed-muslim-tells-pamela-geller-on-tv-she-should-be-slaughtered/
(apols if it doesn’t play – did for me)
I wonder how they feel about the oxygen of publicity afforded him back then after this? For sure he’s getting the screen time again here, but actually being challenged.
Last entry on a google search (as I typed in his name and BBC, I was offered a raft of options: Hardtlak, today, Radio 4…):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29386983
26 Sept 2014
Yes, let’s go with ‘radical’, man.
Be interesting if his ‘motivations’ here get discussed as much as can often happen on the BBC?
Or is this ‘not news’ by chance?
Where is he now anyway?
Dave & Theresa OK with his location, as they ensure such as Ms. Gellar stays away?
As we go to vote, this is his latest tweet:
When MPs
Wage war on Muslims
Legalise haram
Allow Insulting of the Prophet
It’ll be on the neck of both voter & votee
#StayMuslimDontVote
Nothing to inspire a phobia of any sort there.
After the election it will be a crime to say anything in reply to Anjem the jihadist. He speaks for Islam and it is a sign of Islamophobia to offend him. Know your masters.
The fear of having your head lopped off.
Definitely not. A phobia is, after all, irrational. Fear of violent jihad seems entirely reasonable, under the circumstances.
Sorry, I should have clarified my point about Islamophobia. Yes indeed phobias are irrational fears, but the left have defined this phobia as a thought crime which includes fear of getting your head chopped off or being blown up in a supermarket. You see Winston, whatever the party says is true. But this is only the beginning. Here are few more phobias for future election campaigns.
http://phobialist.com/
Before I decide what joint of meat to buy for Sunday lunch, could someone please advise me…..
Is lamb a phobia?
Answers on a p/c to to Ed Milislam.
I have a nice bottle of wine to open around 6am when, despite the most orchestrated hate campaign in UK electoral history, Nigel Farage becomes an MP.
** Edit ** post went in completely the wrong place – on my 4th beer.
Anjem – he truly is the gift that keeps on giving isn’t he? Our taxes pay for the benefits that this c@^t and his family receive, his “Jihad fund” I believe he calls it.
When will people wake up in this country ffs and see the enemy within?
I know…….’when will the people wake up’…….
The majority of the people would rather be beheaded than ever to admit that UKIP have it right, let alone elect them to government.
The whole concept is utterly beyond my comprehension.
UKIP missing on a few ballot papers, and I understand that several ballot papers up and down the country are faulty.
A conspiracy perhaps? Better not upset Manon.
Best explanation is the low level of English in Council Departments. Something to do with equality and diversity I suppose.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32624530
It is probably that.
Then again, I don’t believe I have ever met a council worker who was what you might call an obvious conservative (Small ‘c’) voter. And I’ve encountered more than a few who were radical Lefties.
I’ve just voted UKIP, (in Scotland)
Bollocks to Labour.
Bollocks to the Scottish Nazi Party;
and finally,
Bollocks to the BBC.
oh, smart arse are we? expect a knock on your door soon, the BBC isnt finished just yet
Wrong uniform ,they prefer the more appropriate scruffy shit brown communist one .
What this NKVD one ?
Note usual position of Revolutionary political party officer. Shooting a pleb who does not see the joy of being ruled by the ” people”. Beeboid fantasy of Biased BBC readers.
This is the enemy.
right on my scottish bro your problems are our problems and vice-versa and if we cant indentify our shared heritage and stand together we deserve to be kneeling together in the mosque at the point of a sword
Schools don’t teach children to accept stamp collecting as being equivalent to a male/female relationship. Society doesn’t force the concept of stamp collecting into everyone’s psyche and you don’t have stamp collecting marches being arranged, including stamp collecting police officers, at the taxpayers expense. Neither, to my knowlege, has there ever been a proposal for zebra crossing made of stamps.
If UKIP wins substantial seats today, I will be quite literally elated. Just imagine the BBC staff room. Imagine their pious horror at the ‘misguided proletarians’!
The British people have stepped up to the plate do not fret.
The Magna Kipper is in the process of being scribed as we vote.
Apparently over 70 ISIS adherents in the US, are swearing to hunt down P Geller. Re Mohamhead Cartoonfest.
I wonder if Toady, S Schama or BBC Islamophiles, would care to
comment, like they did this morning.
scrap the BBC!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05sxv75
BBC Toady 2hrs 50
and in the US it s just as bad
onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/06/garland-texas-free-speech-hate-speech-pam-gellar
https://youtu.be/wYCfP4Eg1B4
link
https://onpoint.wbur.org/2015/05/06/garland-texas-free-speech-hate-speech-pam-gellar
I hope the good lady is packing heat, and will get send a few of these camel fuckers to Allah.
To see Anjem Choudhury threatening the likes of Pamela Geller really ought to show us how fragile and spineless we all have become.
Imagine Anjem traipsing around in his long black dress with his henna`ed beard being able to attack ANYONE without a serried rank of sickfux waving black flags and Stanley knives peering at his rear as he prays?
Geller would spit him to Hades in any fair fight.
Choudhury`s not fit to hold her handbag…and only the media would puff this stuff up called Anjem Choudhury.
How come the USA lets the likes of Choudhury threaten its citizens from a Bedford bedsit?
Let`s extradite the scumbugger over to a SuperMax once the USA elect a President with a spine, like Sarah Palin.
Or else he`ll become editor of the New York Times…the Thompson/Piers Morgan trail…slime!
Given the backlash against Pamela Geller and the BBC’s reference to her as a hate filled blogger, it would be relevant if the details of Iran’s Holocaust drawing competition is published. Over 800 entries. Come on Mishelle Hussein, lets hear it from your repulsive sneering voice.
Folks, this is worth publishing widely
http://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-holocaust-cartoon-contest-draws-hundreds-of-entries/
Sorry to read of David’s loss. These events are never easy to deal with and always remind us how short our time is and why should enjoy what we have been given.
Referring to the post by noggin…..Why isn’t this choudhury creature under arrest and in custody, awaiting extradition to the USA? He is threatening the life of the Geller lady, after all?
Better ask the Home Secretary; she seems to have a very unnatural desire to keep these nasties here. Sexual interest? Some mature women have peculiar desires. These politicians/collaborators make me sick.
Yes, she keeps them here and endeavours to keep Pamela Geller out; you really could not make this sh@t up.
Sorry been away, so don’t know if it had been noted ( nothing else to listen to on the A1m due to dead CD player) that the bbc abiding by the rules of Purdh is not mentioning the election apart from ” facts”. Well the ” facts” today on R5 were that the leaders of various parties had been voting, Con, Lab, Lib, even UKIP, SNP, PC…….. Notice anywhere missing ? Northern Island was ignored. Now excuse me but do they not send MPs to Westminster ? Not even Sinn Fein was mentioned let alone DUP or UU. Now excuse me but does not Ulster send more MPs to Westminster than the miserable PC ? But even the useless Leanne ( an escapee from Sky’s Stella if ever I saw one) who if she is lucky will get the grand total of 4 seats gets mentioned. How does the bbc square up this obvious bias against parties from NI rather than Wales ? More seats, open to any party to stand and the local parties just like in Scotland and Wales only stand at home ? Any excuse bbc ?
Forgot to mention, local vote for council was 3 votes. Choice was 3 Conservative or 3 for UKIP, guess where my 3 votes went ?
Looks like I was right , No Fucking Socalists are going to run or ruin my country for 5 years , & the BBC can be close down .Sorry Kipper Fan Club .I am better than the pundits , go down the pub & speak to English people , that`s what I do .& they speak to me , I am not a pollster . Well done Cam .Off to the bookies , tomorrow .
Meanwhile, the BBC will carry on, under your party or the other pack of halfwits, spreading the socialism you say you despise, without let or hindrance.
And if he wins, David Cameron will do absolutely nothing about it. Again.
“No Fucking Socalists are going to run or ruin my country”
But I thought Cameron had squeezed a majority
1 national ukip
2 bourgh 1 ukip
5 town 3 independants no ukip candidates
Exit Polls put Conservatives ahead and will be the largest party at 316 Seats.
http://news.sky.com/story/1479761/exit-poll-conservatives-largest-party
Early days yet…
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Tiny Tory majority; the so-called ‘Euro-sceptics’ have all the power now but will they exercise it? Doubt it.
Well you better leave the country under this new socialist regime , I would of done under Millipeed / SNP / Harperson . England does not deserve Socialism from Labour /SNP .
The media are portraying this as a great victory for Cameron but actually he’s got some extra Tory MPs – probably Eurosceptic – at the expense of pro-EU LibDems. That’s a disaster for his plan to hold a dodgy referendum – there are surely enough ‘hard’ men among the Tories to ‘hold his feet to the fire’.
Ashdown on now expressing scepticism on the poll on the news channel. He might be right but for the wrong reasons. He reckons many made their mind up on the way to the vote. Lol!
I wonder if people maybe lied to the exit pollsters. How do they conduct them these days? Still person with a clipboard?
Harman on now, blinking like a dying lightbulb, trying to spin the victory being disappointing for the overall majority for the government. If there aren’t more UKIP seats it will be disappointing.
Anyway, time to sit tight!
In days past, a Tory leader who had failed to win an election following a collapsed economy ruined by Labour, would have got the chop. To have failed again would have guaranteed it.
We can only hope.
Ah Ah , Foggy picking over the winnings , you are getting as worried as the BBC , end of the dream for Red Len Too . Ha Fucking Ha , to all you doubters . I will be in the Pub tomorrow, getting shedded . Yipeee
Remember the era of the ‘bastards’? The ‘men in white coats’? Coming again – to a parliament near you. New intake Tories these days are always Eurosceptic – what’s not to like? Bone and Redwood will be chuckling! Juncker will be depressed.
Didn’t the BBC just love having to announce that exit poll result.
Just for the moment at 10.30 I am enjoying the long faces of Dimbleby, Maitliss and Robinson trying to say it is too close to call as they desperately hope the exit poll is wrong.
Thank you for that incisive comment. It’s always thrilling to see Conservative philosophers at their splendid best.
That was intended for Essex Man, of course – not Deborah!
Stupid threading.
Anyone want to bet that clapham bus depot will dissapear in a puff of smoke tomorrow, never to be seen again ?
I see ITV has the delightful Matthew Paris ( not such a pretty boy these days ) sitting next to the little shit Owen Jones. Who takes who home for a consolation fuck?
Very sobre atmosphere in the newsroom. The guy from YouGov is “puzzled” 😛
No doubt YouGov still hasn’t worked out that its self-selecting panel of latte sipping social media addicts cannot represent people who think twitter is something done by birds in the garden.
I Don`t care what the Kipper fan club says on here , most right wingers know where their bed is buttered . Kippering will gradually drift away to a couple of coastal towns . The Conservative & Lib Dem ministers were good at their jobs , & saved the economy . Osborne did an excellent job , & my Camra friends love him for cutting beer tax, & trying to save pubs . They have given him a couple of awards too .
Immigration will rise again, the deficit will rise again, the EU referendum will be put on the back burner and nothing will change.
Farage has said he is in for the long haul and once the ‘right wingers’ or the pissed off ordinary people as I like to call them, see through Cameron’s lies then UKIP will build and grow. Get used to it.
didnt see any pubs pass it on though the money grabbing fascist bastards as for saving pubs we have gone from 8 to 6 smoking ban killing them
Looks like UKIP have hurt labour and lib dems more than tories.
Could it be You gov are puzzled because they stopped asking me how I was going to vote. How many others like me did it stop asking?
At last we get our revenge folks, Maitliss, Marr, et al all look shell shocked by exit poll. Hope it’s accurate.
It’s great isn’t it. Compare and contrast the coverage when BLiar won to today. Just imagine what they would have done if Sillyband had actually won !
Oh dear, it seems there is a scandal already, the UKIP representative for Darlington has had his name wiped off some of the ballot papers and 89 people weren’t able to vote for UKIP
The voting wasn’t stopped because we would then know who these people voted for despite the fact they already know as the debacle has been raised??
They must be up against liebour!
Got home just as the exit polls came out and turned on World Service news. From the morose tone of the newsreader as he began to speak I knew at once that Labour had done badly.
However, listening to the crew babbling on, it seems they are happy about the extraordinary result for the SNP.
Having half-listened to it for 45 minutes I don’t recall having heard anything at all about UKIP, except for a single mention, along with Greens, of getting 2 seats.
Edit: Actually they’ve just mentioned UKIP coming second in some constituency, behind Labour. But I guess there is no way they could have avoided that.
Can we say that the Conservatives have won now?
If so, I’ll put away my crate of English Scotch and English Tea and go to bed.
Another Labour rotten borough declares 1st as usual .
Doesn’t take long to count the Tory votes in the North…
And your Tory chums had their backsides kicked by… UKIP.
The only party that got their backsides kicked were your Socialist Wreckers and their Liberal soulmates …. you must be choked …. Luv it !!!
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UKIP 2nd in Sunderland! The Makems do something (almost right ). 22% !
22:52 UKIP Second Houghton And Sunderland South
UKIP’s prediction that they would come second “across Northern England” is coming true as they beat the Tories in Houghton And Sunderland South.
Labour – 21218
UKIP – 8280
Conservative – 7105
Greens – 1095
Liberal Democrats – 791
Lib dems in last place something to smile about
Lib dems in last place something to smile about…
Think…Clegg resigns, Farron takes over, Farron refuses to support Dave, Dave has to do deal with ultra-Eurosceptic DUP… something to smile about? ROFL, more like. All depends if LibDems really collapse to ten seats, though.
Tory + UKIP + DUP = stable majority and an EU referendum (of sorts)
Hahahahaha as with all the Socialist Wreckers and LibDem Snakes …. and their forecasts on the history of everything …. 100% wrong …… read the election results … still Rolling on the Floor Laughing …. Thought not !!!!
Blue Heaven … read it and weep.
yeah we are not all dumb northern monkeys, weve seen the shit with our very own eyes and you southern mockney leftie cunts need to listen to what we think
Don’t use that word I complained to the BBc last time they used it.
Sorry love, get in the queue, lots of labour sluts to service tonight.
jeez mate im desperate but not that desperate