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On R4 now The Black Mozart.
Best Violinist ever.
Best Composer ever.
Best Swordsman ever. (stop sniggering, real swords)
Swam the Atlantic with one hand tied behind his back.
Never heard of him?
That’s because you’re all waycists.
I know that Mozart went through a phase of writing “Turkish-style” music (i.e. a bit heavy on the percussion) around 1782-83, but that’s about it.
The opera “The Abduction from the Seraglio” and the “Turkish Rondo” from one of his piano sonatas are from that era.
It’s about a black chap called StGeorge who was much better than Mozart. Haven’t you heard of him?
No big deal.
St George was a Cappadocian Levantine who came from what is now Turkey, and who was martyred under Roman Emperor Diocletian in about AD 305.
Haven’t heard anything by him because, as you say, I’m a waycist.
However, it’s taken the BBC a while to get around to this, hasn’t it? No doubt everything he wrote will be immune to criticism so expect to hear more.
Anyway, wasn’t Beethoven supposed to be Black?
Extolling the virtues of multi-culti 18th century London now?
You couldn’t make it up
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/06/02/bbc-boss-threatens-to-axe-shows-if-government-decriminalises-failure-to-pay-licence-fee/
Is there some way we could contact Mr Cohen with suggestions on which services he should cancel?
Axe some services. That would be a blow to morale wouldn’t it.
‘“If the BBC takes on more financial obligations, it’s got less money to spend on content. It’s as simple as that.
“If we took on one of those things – decriminalisation or over-75’s licence fees – we’d just make fewer programmes, and that is something I think none of us want to do.
“It may also mean fewer services”.”
He’s tipped as the next DG.
May be a plan; like Ed as party leader.
He is of course partly correct. Clearly, less money means what currently is paid for is unsustainable.
What is less clear is what he means by ‘content’ or ‘services’.
It’s possible ‘us’ could live without the vitality that is ‘Snog, Marry, Avoid’ and the salary of a sack of rats alpha weasel who killed Top Gear off to pursue a personal vendetta.
Luckily he seems part of a vast, growing management band who are unaccountable and unfireable for such invaluable contributions.
Axe Danny Cohen, no one would notice, a saving of £320,000 pa to the licence payer (it took 2200 to pay his salary) and less of the shite like Citizen Khan that we have to suffer….
Some ideas on what to axe are already earmarked to downsize the BBC and Cohen may be fore the chop too.. (quote).
Note: This article was written by Andrew Allison for the Yorkshire Post on 15 May 2015… ‘The surprise announcement in this week’s reshuffle was the appointment of John Whittingdale as Culture Secretary.’…’When the Culture, Media and Sport Committee published its report on the future of the BBC, I was hardly complimentary about it.’..’One thing all MPs on the Culture, Media, and Sport Committee were agreed on was that the ‘BBC Trust is not fit for purpose and should be replaced’ …’What constitutes public service broadcasting needs to be decided and a method of funding will have to be agreed’…’Personally, I think there is very little on BBC television that falls under that category. This is what the BBC1 schedule looked like one morning this week: The Housing Enforcers; Homes Under the Hammer; Don’t Get Done, Get Dom; Oxford Street Revealed; and Bargain Hunt. Those programmes may be popular, but would hardly pass a public service test’…’I am sure that John Whittingdale has been appointed to do a specific job. He is certainly up to the task, as he knows his brief inside out, which makes a refreshing change. As long as the commitment is made to privatise the BBC and the timetable is agreed, I will be happy – as will the many millions of others.
(Article from Axe-the-tax magazine); Back page includes quotes on BBC wasting huge amounts of public money and a memorable report by one Janet Street Porter comparing the BBC to ‘Polenta people’: “They make simple – and arrogant – assumptions about what viewers and listeners will enjoy, based on their own narrow experiences. ” ..
Read it in full here and it does link also to the 38 degree petition to abolish the TV tax which we should all sign up to. This Free Magazine can be downloaded from: http://www.axethetvtax.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/TV-Freedom-Magazine-May-2015-1.pdf
Well, it is going to get a little bit warmer, by about 10 degrees over this weekend, but watch out for the wrong type of high pressure next week. Keep your electric blankets and high rated tog duvets on your beds. I’m having a wager that someone somewhere in the U.K. will catch a ground frost and it might even be along that M4 corridor. 😎
A ground frost in June? Now where did I put my weather records? Maybe I should send a copy to Mr Harrabin, that well known English student and well qualified and extremely talented Climatologist (not)working for the BBC. What am I saying??
In 1976 it snowed in June (in County Durham) – three days later the tar was melting on the roads.
Same as it was in Stratford Upon Avon in 1975.
The Jeremy Vine show had a piece on the top ten gripes of the Farming Community. It didn’t go well for the BBC, one issue was the EU, another issue was Winter in June. The Farmer said that the temperatures had not risen above 10 degrees for the last eight months. Winter in June is a song by Kiuas, and Winter in July is a song by Bomb the Base.
Last week the BBC’s pinup Barack Obama declared again that climate change is the biggest security threat we face. Here are some Egyptians expressing a few doubts about his sanity :
brilliant!
Nice to know you like Egyptians all of a sudden.Do I detect a change of religion on this site? Nice to see integration at work finally!
yes egyptians in egypt
Very funny, but it is a spoof. The real version is here http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4819.htm. Nearly as funny.
Are you sure it’s a spoof, +james? Have they added false subtitles? Was it a ‘satirical’ programme?
America may not have been loved in Egypt. I suspect most Egyptians are totally unaware how much America spent in shoring up the collapsing economy. But it was respected and to a certain extent feared.
Obama forced Mubarak to allow the Muslim Brotherhood to resurface and indirectly encouraged the coup that forced him out. So now Egyptians openly mock him — and by extension America. Well done, smartest man in the room.
I had an idea it was a spoof when one of them clearly said “Yehudi,” but there was nothing about Jews in the translation.
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/605718828966924289
This one is quite special.
He’s either being very honest and fair, or the report meant he was defending the BBC against accusations.
I doubt the former. The latter comes as no surprise.
Nor the paucity of genuine argument he has managed to do so.
Sorry to be pedantic and I apologise if I am wrong, but “the corporation was bias” ? Surely the word should be “biased”
I would have thought that a multi billion pound outfit like the BBC should know better.
Edit – it looks like the page has been changed.
Yes you are being a pedant. On the issue of bias however it was clear to any reasonble person that the BBC was incredibly biased to the right as usual. None of the big topics that affect our lives were really mentioned ,instead of which we were subjected to the same old circus with the same old clowns.
None of the big topics that affect our lives were really mentioned…
On the BIG topic, Lynton Crosby advised Cameron to make one speech on immigration and then go silent. The Tories called it ‘getting the stone off the road’. You’re right that the Beeb conspired with the Tories in this matter, but surely that was because it suited their own bias and suited the Labour party, rather than a cunning plan to boost Cameron?
You would have to flesh out for me the notion that taking all the big issues off the agenda the BBC were in some following there own bias.
Post election I really cant believe how our country is just about to be taken over and yet so many people are unaware of it. Thats not an agenda ,thats more like a conspiracy.
‘it looks like the page has been changed’
Given that one small tweet (and its linked report intro) was a masterpiece inviting commentary freely offered, this comes as no surprise.
It is only reasonble.
On a more serious note, given he is the market rate, mega-squillion boss of a news monopoly, the attempted logic of this is quite special:
‘James Harding said “the fabled left-wing bias” was “unfair and unfounded”, and was “hard to take seriously” given the Conservative victory.’
So, despite the BBC’s best efforts, Ed still pulled them over the cliff with him and his party?
And he’s trying to spin the BBC’s overt, often naked support tainting the whole seedy deal with the man who told them they were safe with him, and failing, as evidence they weren’t going for broke?
Nitwit.
James Harding said “the fabled left-wing bias” was “unfair and unfounded”, and was “hard to take seriously” given the Conservative victory.
I have to say that’s quite a leap of logic.
You win with minutes to spare:) But, if I may… great minds…?
You may indeed.
What does he mean? The BBC got 30% of the population to vote for Ed Miliband and his stone.
The BBC has suffered a temporary loss to its GLOBAL ambition recently… According to the edict of the EU – the BBC ‘iPlayer’ (along with other ‘TV streaming Sky and NetFlix services’) should not be ‘geo-blocked’ in the EU. That stems from the log standing BBC practice of preventing TV license payers from watching BBC shows whilst on holiday – and then cheekily offering the same service at 75% discount to the rest of Europe and beyond. Caught red-handed ‘overcharging’ UK customers a service it heavily discounts to Canada, Australia and western Europe for just £52 as opposed to UK £145 Since then the BBC has decided to close its ‘global’ service on 26th June 2015.
The problem could get worse as the BBC TV Global suddenly discovers (see 2011 international iPlayer launch) (that ‘the rest of World’ only wants to watch ‘Top Gear’ and ‘Dr Who’ repeats). In fairness to the EU it has more balls then OfCom ever had to cut off this anomaly. BBC will have to find another way of extortion for its iPlayer (global) service which they had hoped would challenge SKY TV and other online services. THE BBC has to decide that they they either ditch the TV license entirely or pay to view (but not both). They can’t have it both ways. It’s an abuse of power.
http://techfrag.com/2015/05/07/ec-recommends-bbc-iplayer-to-be-available-across-europe/
After the millions of quid of our money, spent by the Evil BBC to get the Millipeed into No 10 , I see they have started making some economies on News 24 , by simulcasting BBC World programmes during the day instead of endlessly copying Sky , with Norman ,”but Labour says ” Smith . This only previously happen only overnight or at weekends , but cutting ” but Labour says ” Smiths, wages must be a step in the right direction.
I see dodgy bloke on his crappy bus in Clapham has two votes occasionally… how sad he has to log off and log on again to give himself further support!
Well you just got 4 votes with absolutely no contribution. Well done. Maybe youll get even more if you dont log in. Try it and Ill keep a tally for you!
‘Well you just got 4 votes with absolutely no contribution’
Can happen (suspect Jerry may garner some more, as it’s you and his contribution was a tease). Scott & Dez can often get almost a half dozen. I gave one to you just for that magnificent suspension of irony alone. The awesome sparing of apostrophes in complement was by way of a bonus.
Tally ho!
I read too much Wittgenstein for apostrophes! Lol.
John Whittingdale has just popped up on the ITV news re the Blatter story. He has noticeably NOT been on the BBC news, so far.
North west running a sob story about some woman who married a Nigerian who is getting deported (hopefully) To be fair the presenter did ask her why she couldn’t live with him in Nigeria which is a bit of a turn up. “Oh I couldn’t” she replied I’ve only ever been in another country for a 2 week holiday. So there you go.
Siily cow! If he does marry her and thus avoid deportation, he’ll b*gger off before the ink on his new passport has dried.
WTF?
So Blatter stepped down due to bullying by wealthy Americans, rather than by the fact that he is the head of an organisation that is neck deep in corruption?
“rather than by the fact that he is the head of an organization that is neck deep in corruption? ” You could say the same about the BBC and savile etc
You could say the same about big US money and Washington.
Following the investigation of organised sex abuse against more than three hundred white girls and young women in Oxford by Asian gangs seven Asian men were tried and convicted. The police in Oxford have now arrested another eight men of whom at least seven are Asian males. While the Thames Valley Police included this information in their press release, the BBC continues to omit the ethnicity of those arrested in their on-line reporting. Another inconvenient moment for Al Beeb ?
Yes, I noticed this story on the BBC online news site earlier today. See, I don’t care if Sky don’t properly report stories like this because they don’t demand money from me with menaces and I can refuse to pay for their service.
With the BBC, no such luck. Not only am I forced to endure their redactions and dissembling, but I’m also threatened with criminal sanctions if I attempt to withhold payment to them for such obfuscation.
The license fee must be abolished. The BBC must be forced into the subscription-only market and made to take its chances on the open commercial seas along with the rest of them. And we must be allowed to own and watch our televisions without fear of persecution from the hateful Corporation.
“You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”
I concur Phil. Heartily. It’s a moral issue. The licence fee must be abolished.
Then there would be no cause to complain about bias as people could freely choose whether to fund the BBC or not. If the BBC employees are good what they do, they have nothing to fear in, what would be, a freer market.
Personally, I don’t see a down side to licence fee abolition. I see approximately 145 up sides.
Response to Gunner. With three hundred victims and only a total of 15 arrests, it looks as if the Thames Valley Police and the CP are , like the BBC, concealing information and possible perpetrators.
Prayer for Today 3rd June on forgiveness Radio 4 was sick !!! The idea at the end was that evil people are good because they bring us together in unity and help us become stronger and so they should be forgiven !! This is just mad!
By way of a change to its daily fare, BBC News on Facebook has shared a special Newsround report:
“Growing up black in America – How race is affecting lives of US children’
Looking at the comments, it’s clear the public really appreciating this unique new angle of investigation. Again.
News where you are – or not, as the case may be….
BBC London tv news hits a new low this morning – just two quick items: a puff piece for a public sector Trades Union followed by a puff piece for an art show. And that was it.
It wasn’t as if the BBC were short of time. A puff peice for BBC I-Player took up valuable news bulletin moments.
You know the one – it starts with Dan Snow and moves on to Nina Simone whilst ticking all boxes along the way.
The BBC busy blowing their own trumpet whilst the simple duty of a public service providing a bit of local news goes by the by.
When the BBC is accused of Metroplitan bias, please Scots, Northerners etc dont’t imagine that it cares a toss for Londoners.
BBC teaser for the Victoria Derbyshire Show :
“Prime Minister’s Question Time – an importnat part of our democratic process, or just a shouting match”
Sour grapes after their boy lost?
I hope that question’s rhetorical! Of course it’s an important part of the democratic process. Otherwise they’re being disingenuous or they’re fools.
Ashfelt. Maybe nothing happened!
Article on today’s BBC website
“Occupation children shunned in post-war Germany and Austria”
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32972893
There was a huge sigh of relief when they found the photo to lead the article.
The BBC is just anti white.
BBC = Black Brainwashing Commissariat.
Nice article. Interestingly the BBC ran a documentary on the persecution of Gemans by the Checkoslovaks ,Polish Russians etc with graphic film. Its still on iPlayer. However they quite deliberately failed to mention the biggest holocaust of the second world war caused by the Morganthau plan. Upto 15 million displaced germans died in concentration camps equally as horific as those run by the Nazis. Some reports suggested the Yanks ploughed living people into the ground. more evidence of BBC estabishment bias i think.
“Upto 15 million displaced germans died in concentration camps equally as horific as those run by the Nazis. Some reports suggested the Yanks ploughed living people into the ground.”
That’s news to me.
News to me as well!
The documentary though “The Savage Peace” is worth watching.
I humbly submit Radio 4’s ‘The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock’, presented by Alan Yentob, broadcast on Tuesday night at 9.30 pm.
‘Alan Yentob marks the centenary of TS Eliot’s poem by talking to people who have found meaning in it, from psychologist Adam Phillips to singer Emmy the Great’ ( No, me neither).
You might suspect Eliot’s deep cultural conservatism, anglophilia, anti-semitism, and late conversion to the Church of England and general all round dead white male-ness would offer little or no scope for multi-culti wank-fests. But no.
29 minutes in, a diversion where Botney interviews giftedly annoying US academic Sarah Churchwell (go-to person for any Beeb prog on literature) who suggests that T. S. Eliot’s growing up in St Louis, Missouri meant he would have imbibed Ragtime music (and… we’re in) and thus, while a lover of Wagner, he was ‘hearing all these different musical influences and ricocheting between them’. So Eliot’s dislike, nay, contempt for jazz is completely elided over, against the evidence of his own blumin’ poetry ( see: the Waste Land) in the interests of claiming Eliot as a footsoldier.
An excellent post.
It is quite remarkable how Botney, having been so thoroughly seen through by Peter Cook et al, has allowed to continue pseuding his way around contemporary culture at our expense.
Wry smile moment of the morning (so far):
@naightiej If Caitlyn Jenner wishes to be known as she, of course she’s entitled to that, and I’m sorry for saying ”he’ on air. A bit sloppy.
Wonder if he’ll accidentally call “the symbol formally known as” a NaughtieMarr at any point?
The Beeb have decided. Trans is THE NEXT BIG THING. Fairness, justice, equality – innit? But this is another front opened where conflict exists among the deserving. Where’s the balance? Why no lesbian moaners to balance the argument? Where’s Julie Bindel when you need her? – she’s around most times when you don’t!
… I don’t have a problem with men disposing of their genitals, but it does not make them women, in the same way that shoving a bit of vacuum hose down your 501s does not make you a man.
Gender benders, beware
Nice. Julie has a way with words. What would Naughtie make of that? Or our resident gay activist? He’s always claiming the high liberal, progressive ground. Equality is great fun when you’re bullying some Christian baking a cake, but it seems that gays are to be exempt.
Of course Gays are exempt ! as are Jews as well!
Now we see the Students Union banning Jews under the description ‘Zionists’ to stay within the law, and Gays from their meetings. Adolf would have been so proud of them!
But can you imagine the time when the Grauniad would publish such an article, with trannies changed for blacks or Muslims?
I saw that story on Breitbart. Just what are you supposed to call a woman with a dick, then?
Frankly, as I commented there, it’s time Twitter outrage was treated as the clanging of empty vessels that it is and accorded the appropriate importance.
We have PC laws protecting those who are ‘different’ what we need now are laws protecting those (the majority) with opinions that are not ‘different’
…what are you supposed to call a woman with a dick, then?
cock-in-a-frock?
Hillary Clinton.
‘time Twitter outrage was treated as the clanging of empty vessels’
The BBC has invested so much in Twitter being ‘the only medium that matters'(c), I fear your wish my be too late.
That said, like so much with the BBC, it’s when the Law of Unintended Consequences kicks in ways they don’t like, never say never…
http://order-order.com/2015/06/03/bbc-reporter-kills-the-queen/
Have to say this young cubicle gardener (BBC Broadcast Journalist. All views strictly my own) has excelled herself, running the full gamut of excuse and accusation, before leaving it to the BBC Press Office, experienced as they too are at deleting tweets and tap-dancing and getting the cover-up worse*:
‘So the BBC now say it was sent by mistake during rehearsal, she said it was left at home.
They can’t even get their lies consistent.’
On a more serious note, given the BBC has already swung financial markets in a similar way, is it perhaps not time they took a bit more charge of what is posted with their brand scrawled across the top?
Not sure ‘tee-hee… joking’, from the bed-sit really serves as an excuse for a £4B broadcast monopoly these days.
*Comments, as ever, also interesting, not least on what it takes to be one of that vast ‘BBC journalist’ Jobcente these days.
Love the thinking behind this piece, and I thought others here would too.
http://laudatortemporisacti.blogspot.co.uk/2004/07/hatred-of-ones-own-race.html
Thanks for that link – and the subsidiary links (although the July 1, 2004 link in Joy of Knitting appears not to work – for me anyway).
The Lord has recently drawn attention to the Black Mozart programme on R4. In many ways, I think this is worse and will almost certainly be covered by the BBC in due course:
Chi-chi Nwanoku: ‘I want black musicians to walk on to the stage and know they belong’
Apartheid seems to be acceptable when it suits. The phrase “one of our own” is particularly interesting. Imagine a white person using it. I note however that she hadn’t heard of Chevalier de Saint-Georges, the Black Mozart, either.
Opera houses are generally regarded as conservative places yet there have been many world class opera singers: Kathleen Battle, Grace Bumbry, Barbara Hendricks, Jessye Norman, Shirley Verrett, Willard White. The problem is not racism, as often implied, but the lack of interest in anything perceived as white. The recent free LSO concert in Trafalgar Square was a sea of white and SE Asian faces, as usual. I saw a couple of black ones, that’s all.
It’s not unusual for composers to be sidelined for reasons which are often regarded as unfair. Malcolm Arnold and George Lloyd spring to mind.
Obviously should have been “black world class opera singers”.
See how colour blind I am!
Before the “Black Mozart” we had Samuel Coleridge-Taylor the African Mahler (he was born in Holborn and died in Croydon)…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Coleridge-Taylor
So, in spite of the fact that she’ll be lucky to get together a string quartet, let alone an orchestra of any quality, we’ll have a band that nobody dare criticise, applying for assistance that nobody dare turn down, playing music that nobody dare question.
I give it 4 weeks, after which the audience of BBC and Guardian staff, and half a dozen black civilians, will grow bored with it.
BBC “reporter” announces Queen receiving treatment in hospital – sorry just a silly prank, I left my phone unattended.
Don’t expect any heads to roll.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11648109/BBC-journalist-apologies-after-accidentally-announcing-Queens-demise-on-Twitter.html
Can’t find the story on the BBC website front page.
Snap:)
Given her account and that of the BBC has already followed typical form in diverging wildly, and hence offering yet another example of the trust staff and corporation should be accorded when saying or writing or trying to explain anything, it may be again worth investing in more popcorn.
Top management to her immediate boss: ‘sack her’
Reply: ‘…but we can’t she’s, um an ethnic’
Top management: ‘Bugger, give her a rise….’
Queen in Hospital prank. Good for a snigger on the left blogs. Efnik appointee, can’t be disciplined, whats the problem, they have regular jokes like this in the socialist society meetings at uni.
http://order-order.com/2015/06/03/bbc-reporter-kills-the-queen/
OOps
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/wind-turbine-fire-todmorden-moor-9379970
World’s biggest hair dryer.
Bloody idiots ! BBC radio 4 “why is it that when you mention women and Silicone you don’t thing of Silicone Valley?”
Well Duh! That’s because Silicon and Silicone are two very different things and are pronounced slightly differently. The fact that the editors cannot tell the difference between the two speaks volumes