Came across this…
Muslim Council of Britain Condemns Sectarian Vandalism of Bradford Mosque
What could they mean by ‘sectarian violence’? Had to investigate further as the BBC seems to have missed that particular story of Islamophobia.
Turns out it was a Shia mosque…Shias, and Ahmadis, not being considered Muslims by Sunnis…ie the majority of UK Muslims.
Hence of course what the BBC tells us is the large number of ‘Muslims’ killed by ISIS, which of course doesn’t consider them Muslim…and this recent event which seems to be mostly ignored by the BBC on the news at present in favour of events in Tunisia….
Kuwait Shia mosque blast death toll ‘rises to 27’
Muslim ‘Islamophobia’….going to get confusing…best ignore it eh BBC?
It might seem a world away from the fighting in Syria, but a new mosque near the Buckinghamshire town reflects the rise in Britain of tensions between the two factions of Islam.
With its busy pub, carefully tended floral borders and farm shop selling eggs and hay, Fulmer is an unlikely epicentre for concerns that Britain’s Shia and Sunni Muslim populations are increasingly plagued by sectarian strife.
You couldn’t make it up.
Never mind in Bradford.
An Islamic war in Gerrards Cross?
The Home Counties of this green and pleasant land.
Now we might see the high & mighty get up off their big fat rear ends and do something.
Eh what!
Hi LEC.
Easier to just study the bible, and see the two phases of pre-exilic prophesy As exemplified by Isaiah and Jeremiah,
Jonathans numerology is incorrect(Eccles 1.15)-but at least we have these fields to ourselves eh?
Iran will wipe out Saudi Arabia , as the Turks change sides-very Israel and Judah in the face of the Syrians(Assyrians) and the Iraqis(Babylonians)-then Armageddon…and Jesus wins in all eventualities.
The BBC is doing its best to confuse the public. They ask any person who they have assigned as “expert” , what if any, is the link in all the terrorist outrages that took place yesterday.
Lets help the BBC
1. The most important feature is that all Western leaders stated that none of of the terrorist outrages had anything to do with Islam.
2. They all took place on Friday, including the one in Bradford.
3. I’m fairly certain that “allah akhbar” was shouted at each event.
4. They all took place during holy Ramadan, when Jihad goes into turbo mode. ( I hope Cameron, Merkel, Hollande etal, take this fact into consideration when they wish “Happy Ramadan” or whatever to Muslims. In effect they are wishing Muslims a Happy Hunting of Infidels ).
Apart from the above four, the terrorist incidents are totally unrelated.
I think that it is even more frightening if the four events are unrelated apart from being perpetrated by Muslims. If it was tight organisation that planned and executed these attacks it may be possible to deal with it effectively. But it seems that the so called lone wolves are striking on their own behalf because they believe that this is what their ideology/religion/ community wants of them.
It seems inescapable that for each lone wolf there are many who would wish to do the same and many more more who tacitly share some or all of the sentiments of the lone wolves.
The west is in a deep hole owing to its stupid policy of supporting mass immigration over the last few decades. It now has a large pool of folks who could easily become lone wolves and it has no idea how to identify or combat them. Future attacks may be much more deadly than those we have seen to date. After all modern societies are very easily disrupted.
But even now the BBC et al are seriously suggesting that we add millions more to this pool. They are truly insane.
Yup. It is far more frightening if they are all unrelated. That means that it is virtually impossible to weed out the bad from the “good”.. The moderate Muslim just happens not to have the Jihadi urge yet.
To be a werewolf or a Jihadiwolf that is the question.
Whether ’tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Islamophobia,
Or to take up suicide belts against a Sea of troubles,
et cetera, et cetera
Sheikh Spear.
Dt
“Insane?”
Of course they want more imports, who else is going to vote Labour?
Who votes Labour?
Non-whites, people on benefits, public sector workers.
The non-productive, the barely productive and the counter productive.
Who votes Labour?… .The non-productive, the barely productive and the counter productive.
Change it to that and you may have something!
A murder of crows; a gaggle of geese; a flock of sheep; a caliphate of lone wolves?
Funny how these attacks are all of a sudden ‘lone wolf’ attacks, ie.. nothing to do with nazislam, just random loonies.
Funny how I can’t ever remember any sectarian murder during the N.I. troubles being carried out by a lone wolf, no they were carried out by organized paramilitaries fighting for a cause who knew exactly what the war was about…it’s exactly the same with these muslim murderers.
No, that’s dangerous thinking.
The sectarian violence in NI was a criminal/political struggle between competing gangs within and between separate communities living side by side. It was mostly about protectionism. When the IRA went after drug dealers and pimps it was looking after its business interests not the wee folk of Belfast. The gangs from either side cared nothing for the people of NI and there was no real religious conflict between them; the Catholic/Protestant split was a cultural conflict used to legitimise their criminality rather than a real political end game.
The violence perpetrated on Friday was indeed by ‘lone wolves’ (the irony is in the plural) and is very distinct from NI. The reason is simple and that is because the ‘lone wolves’ are following an ideology that promotes violence against the unbeliever and not against the competitor. It is a political form of Islam rooted in a bastardisation of a religion stuck in a Middle ages mind set. They do not seek to beat the competition but to create the World in their own warped image. These wolves all follow a particularly nasty strain of Islam and, perversely, not necessarily the same strain either. They do not require direction from a mastermind or gang boss; their aim is simple – they want a Muslim World but cannot agree on which Muslim World it should be.
Over the past couple of decades hardly a day goes by without some atrocity being committed in the name of some form of Islam and more often than not the victims are other Muslims. They are as much at war with each other as they are with ‘us’.
Allah forbid they ever unite against the rest of the World …
Happy Rama-dama-ding-dong y’all !!!
with all this cultural enrichment im going to embrace it and celebrate it in the pub with a pint or two and a pack of pork scratchings. Lets hear it for the muslims woohooooooooooo. wouldnt life be boring without them
Scorecard for Day 10 of the 2015 Ramadan Bombathon
Terror Attacks 98
Suicide Bombings 20
Dead Bodies 933
Wounded 985
All in the name of The Religion of Peace
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#Attacks
Mr mouse in your Ramalang a ding doing score card, do you include us Hideously White people, or just the moosies in the running total? I am not sure when the Festival of Death finishes, but I am sure the BBC will let us all know.
the muslim council of britian are just the muslim brotherhood all but in name,the muslim brotherhood are now a banned terrorist group in most parts of the arab world.i am sick of the weasel words and fake sympathy from the likes of the mcb when there is a terrorist act against non muslims,its all fake and crocodile tears,i see no difference betreen the root ideology of the muslim council council of britain and isis,the truth has to be told about what we are up against here.
Something else has occurred to me & I would like to be a ‘Fly on the Wall ‘ in both households, both Dame Nicky Campbell, & Jezza Vine both have daughters as offspring. I was wondering if they would want them ‘Culturally Enriched’ by going out with a Mussie, then converting, before they never set eyes on them again, once they dress the part wearing the niquab & all the black robes. Their new husband’s, would not allow them to.go down to Glastonbury, with daddy, ever again. I bet they would hate it, but being pc, trumps everything in the bbc worid of lies & dam lies.
Why don’t their leftist parents allow them to go and stay in Rotherham to enjoy enrichment to the full. After all they don’t seem too bothered about the other girls who live there.
Essexman – I know of one such. Lost to her friends, her parents and the rest of her family. Apparently the wedding was nice (if you’re not averse to a bit of gender segregation).
what a plaque of evil islam has become in the uk now.
Knock-knock!
Who’s there?
Allah.
Allah who?
…Akbar! [KA-BOOM!]
Nothing to do with Islam says Cameron, Merkel, Hollande and all.
So why are the Tunisians closing down mosques?
‘Tunisia’s PM Habib Essid announced a security clampdown after the attack claimed by Islamic State (IS).
He said army reservists would be deployed to tourist sites. About 80 mosques accused of inciting violence would be closed within a week, he added.’
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33302564
Unfortunately it’s not the mosques (after all they are just pretty buildings), it’s the people inside the mosques preaching to the adults and indoctrinating the children – and they can do this anywhere.
Yes, I agree, point accepted.
These sticking plaster solutions may appease the media mob, but I doubt convince many else.
As you say, shutting a building (for a while) is hardly likely to impede the process of interaction.
Equally posting guards (for a while) is about as daft as it gets in a practical sense.
Either the targets chosen will be even softer, or the team assigned greater. Frankly all it does is add a state sacrifice to the tally.
And if it “has nothing to do with Islam”, why is it that President, Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, told the imams at Egypt’s famous al Azhar university in January to create a “religious revolution” to rescue Islam from centuries of “false” thinking that had made Muslims “a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world”.
Pres al-Sisi must be an Islamophpobe, or misguided on Islam.
At the time when the Muslim world was at its most powerful , they were the more civilised and other faiths preferred to live under a Muslim ruler (and pay extra taxes ) than others .
Is that why all these middle eastern minority sects are rushing to live under the banner of IS ? To see their children and women raped, to pay heavy taxes just to stay alive to see their history destroyed in front of them ? Tell you what Nibor, you go and try it for a while and tell us how you get on. What’s your height, 5ft 10 ? I guess it will be around 5ft 3 when you manage to ‘head’ home.
NOW they are not the leading civilisation in the world , so it’s a waste of time asking me to go there ( I’ve been there in happier times) .
My point is they don’t have to be like that , and the leading civilisation moves from area to area around the world over time .
Excellent point DP111. It would be nice to hear that one debated, or even used in a debate, on the BBC. Unfortunately it contravenes the narrative.
Nibor – nice try but I don’t think so. As I understand it there were 2 strains of Islam for its first 300 years, the relatively civilised strain lost out to the “if Mohammad didn’t say it, it’s not true” strain about 1000 years ago. I have also been reading a lot recently about Spain in the era when Muslims, Jews and Christians all lived there and it appears to me that most of the fighting (think El Cid e.g.) was done across religious boundaries
Richard North
I’m not trying to give a Hollywood version with Rex Harrison appearing as Saladin , but for the standards of the time it was a preferable place to live for ordinary people compared to their equivalents in Europe .
Why has it gone wrong , and have policies over the last few years heaped fuel upon the pyre ?
That could be, THE Richard North, if it is, Welcome.
There are two , Dr RAE North and Richard D North . I doubt it is either one .
‘….but for the standards of the time it was a preferable place to live for ordinary people compared to their equivalents in Europe.’
Really?
In place of knowledge a series of myths has grown. One is of a cultural golden age in Islamic Spain, with Muslims, Christians and Jews living in harmony. Yet Americo Castro, who coined the word convivencia to describe the life of the three faiths in the caliphate of Cordoba, wrote, in his book The Structure of Spanish History: “Each of the three peoples of the peninsula saw itself forced to live for eight centuries together with the other two at the same time as it passionately desired their extermination.”
The tension was resolved in the reconquest of Spain by Christian forces and the later terrible expulsion of Jews and Muslims. Spain was the only territory long under an Islamic rule where Christians did not (from the pressure of taxation, law and periodic massacre) eventually dwindle into a helpless minority.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherhowse/5173660/A-Christian-world-under-Islams-rule.html
Which Proves the point .
Sometimes being ruled by the Caliphate was the equivalent of being ruled by the British .
So, the Sunnis hate the Shias, the Shias hate the Sunnis, they both hate the Alawites and the Wahabis hate everyone….and they all hate the Jewish people!
There’s a bit of a theme running with nazislam…hate; hate women, hate dogs, hate education, hate any other religion, hate, hate, hate…but love the bbc and welfare!
Meanwhile
“President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel also spoke on Sunday and agreed it was “critically important” to find ways to keep Greece in the euro zone, the White House said earlier.”
Keep your Democrat Yankee noses out of Europe, you pale pink traitors. Regards to the descendants of the heroes of the South.
Nibor – “where it all went wrong” was the demise of a relatively gentle form of Islam 1000 years ago. I’m tired of reading stuff by apologists for radical Islam that suggest it’s no worse than any other religion, or things would have been different if Bush had kept out of Iraq, etc. ad nauseam. The only innovative thing about radical Islam is its seemingly endless ability to make excuses for itself.
We saw the face of radical Islam when the Ayatollahs took over Iran in 1979 – and immediately started murderous attacks on the West.
Here we are, nearly 40 years later, and still the BBC pimps out its defence of Islam.