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  1. NISA says:
    August 16, 2015 at 2:50 pm

    BBC producer/director ensures feeling of nausea over McDoom’s speech. If the words were not tedious enough, the camera has been left on autopilot to follow Mc Cavity as he paces too & fro. I guess the BBC staff have knocked off for drinks leaving the TV audience to fight motion sickness, rather than keeping the camera stationary on a wider setting

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    • Guest Who says:
      August 16, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      Well, of all the ‘breaking news’ that may warrant a special BBC email, this appears the one they felt most necessary:

      Brown: Labour Party must be credible
      Former UK PM Gordon Brown says Labour Party needs to be credible and electable to achieve “high ideals”

      One can see why he rose to the top with insights like that. No wonder the BBC cleared its decks to share it.

      Guido has paid homage to the BBC cameraman following Gordon. No idea why, the whole BBC managed to follow him off a cliff once.

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  2. Pollystuscanyvilla says:
    August 16, 2015 at 3:43 pm

    It says so much about the Labour party that Gordon “Bigot” Brown is more respected and admired even though he lost an election rather than the, it has to be said, political master Tony Blair (mad, murdering and greedy as he is) who won…what was it three elections?

    Dear oh dear what a party.

    By the way I have chosen Angela Eagle as the deputy leader for Labour as she is a walking disaster. Doubt me? Have a gander…

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  3. TrueToo says:
    August 16, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Hmmm, here’s what Israel’s English radio news plucked from Gordon Brown’s press conference this evening:

    “If we are going to solve the problems of the global economy, global finance, global climate change, if we are going to solve the problems of global inequality and poverty we will need a level of global cooperation to match our national endeavours that is at a higher and more sustained and advanced level than ever before. And I have to say that if our global alliances are going to be alliances with Hezbollah and Hamas and Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela and Vladimir Putin’s Russia then we’ll have no chance of building a worldwide alliance that can deal with poverty and inequality and climate change and financial instability and we’ve got to face up to that fact.”

    Leaving aside Gordon Brown’s unwarranted concerns about climate change, I’m encouraged by his opposition to Corbyn, specifically his mention of Corbyn’s heroes – the anti-Semitic scum of Hezbollah and Hamas.

    Something I’ve noticed about Mr Brown – and this is going way back – is that he has on occasion expressed genuine support for and understanding of Israel re the country’s battle against its vicious enemies. Good man.

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    • Thoughtful says:
      August 16, 2015 at 10:22 pm

      and leaving aside that he & his party wrecked the British economy, sold the gold reserves at a record low, allowed in reocrd number of immigrants for no good reason. introduced parts of the human rights act, but left out other bits to allow them to oppress the people who didn’t share their crazed views.
      Leave out the intolerance of anyone who even slightly questioned them such as Gillian Duffy, or Walter Wolfgang. The enormous growth of the public sector, signing away the EU rebate. The introduction of ‘hate’ laws, the list of things we have to overlook is so long that we would have to overlook their entire time in government because precious little good came of it!

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      • Charlatans says:
        August 16, 2015 at 10:38 pm

        3 years Brown attempted to keep to the Labour manifesto pledges to abide by Tory spending plans from 97.
        It takes minimum of 3 years to turn around the State supertanker in any event.

        Tory economic plans Labour conformed to resulted in massive surpluses and growth then Brown turned on the Socialist tax and spend taps with gusto!

        PFI, opened the borders, working tax credits, let the banks let rip without proper regulation in the worlds largest Financial Centre, infecting half the worlds banks, (who naturally took opportunity of his poorly regulated regime, the rest is history)! The grandkids will still be paying the bill in 30 years time!

        Simultaneously his mates were conducting the worlds biggest ever radicalisation of the R o Peacers, with millions displaced, wounded, in body bags with contagion throughout the Middle east, which is still on Fire with millions currently en route through forests to EU or across the med.

        Well done!

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        • 60022Mallard says:
          August 17, 2015 at 8:32 am

          A factlet to remember about Labour 2000 to 2010 is that they were the first government to increase spending on benefits as a proportion of GDP in the “good” times.

          Normally the %age is contracyclical. As the economy struggles the %age goes up and as it improves the %age goes down.

          So while they try to blame “the bankers” they did an awful lot to make the situation worse!

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      • TrueToo says:
        August 17, 2015 at 6:53 am

        I’m suitably chastised. While I was writing that I did think about him selling off the UK’s gold and that it was therefore a bit strange for him to be waxing eloquent about finance. But I have to admit I thought it was the Blairs who were instrumental in selling out UK citizens re human rights.

        (You can tell I don’t live in the UK.)

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  4. Charlatans says:
    August 16, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Sweden has started the anti-Jihad fightback;

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  5. David Brims says:
    August 16, 2015 at 10:44 pm

    “If we are going to solve the problems of the global economy, global finance, global climate change, if we are going to solve the problems of global inequality and poverty we will need a level of global cooperation that is at a higher and more sustained and advanced level than ever before.” How very NWO, that’s why we have the EUSSR, NAFTA, erasing of our borders, mass immigration to subvert the independence and sovereignty of the nation, the boiling the frog process. If you love all that, then I suppose Gordon Brown is a”good” man.

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    • David Brims says:
      August 16, 2015 at 11:02 pm

      Every other word Brown utters it’s got ” Global ” in it. And that thing he does with his hands, bit like a demented dalek, very irritating.

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      • taffman says:
        August 16, 2015 at 11:33 pm

        I think the media coverage of the Labour leadership contest is having far more coverage than the last general election had.

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        • The Lord says:
          August 17, 2015 at 8:05 am

          Lol. It’s quite unrelenting alright. Every time I put the radio on it makes me giggle. (I’m easily amused)

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    • TrueToo says:
      August 17, 2015 at 7:39 am

      I only said he was a good man because of his benevolent attitude towards Israel. From what I’m learning here today it seems that attitude is strangely out of step with the rest of his beliefs. Blair too, whatever his many faults, is one of very few European leaders who has a positive attitude towards Israel.

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  6. Geoff says:
    August 16, 2015 at 10:49 pm

    Top DM comment on the Songs of Praise story, I didn’t watch but if true, enough said, looks like the bBC is pulling the wool over our eyes (again)

    “Why are male & female sitting apart in a Christian church?”

    2713 Up votes.

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  7. Bodo says:
    August 17, 2015 at 7:38 am

    Radio 4 Today program, 6:50 AM.

    MUCH worrying by the BBC about the 60% increase in diabetes in the UK. The head of “diabetes UK” was interviewed. £10 billion per year is spent treating diabetes, or 10% of the NHS budget. She predicted it could bring down the NHS if rates continued increasing.

    The only hint of the REAL major cause of the problem was when she said the problem was geographically based. A real red light to those of us here who are used to BBC bias. Quick Google for “UK diabetes Asian” reveals the statistics that Asians are up to 13 times more likely to have diabetes, and Africans and Caribbeans more than twice as likely.

    So that’s imported AIDS, TB, hepatitis and now diabetes putting huge and possible terminal strain on the NHS. But the left and the BBC insist that the NHS would collapseWITHOUT immigrants.

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    • taffman says:
      August 17, 2015 at 8:46 am

      You mean the our ‘International Health Service’. A service paid for by our ‘ageing population’ accessed by the growing immigrant population.
      60% in a decade that’s 6% per year.
      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-33932930

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      • shelly says:
        August 17, 2015 at 9:23 am

        I’m guessing enrichers don’t get old and put any additional strain on the health service…As the term “ageing population” seems to be BBC code for old white people…

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        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:
          August 17, 2015 at 10:49 am

          Yes. The ones who have paid for healthcare in their old age via National Insurance.

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  8. AsISeeIt says:
    August 17, 2015 at 8:20 am

    “Voting is expected to begin later today in the Labour leadership election”

    Louise Minchin and Bill mincing Turnbull warn me with their predictive headline that campaigning will not stop today although the ballot papers have gone out – indeed the contenders will be busy getting their (increasingly marxist) message out for the next month!

    And the BBC will pass composite motions at every utterance, no doubt.

    The BBC headline report from Westminster (why Westminster, there’s no one working there, is there?) hammers home the name Corbyn into our consciousness yet again.

    I’m not sure I can take 30 days of BBC obsessing on this story – of interest to less than about 1% of the population – but I guess that’s what they see as their remit.

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    • Guest Who says:
      August 17, 2015 at 8:33 am

      The next Songs of Praise is going to be held at the Labour HQ.

      Apparently.

      Best of all, in the hall women will be on the left and men on the far left. The BBC cameras and editorial will be even further left of them.

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  9. Pollystuscanyvilla says:
    August 17, 2015 at 8:29 am

    “Politicians should stop pressurising the BBC and the public should have more of a say in its future, the chairwoman of the BBC Trust says.
    Writing in the Independent, Rona Fairhead said the BBC’s future must be “driven by evidence and fact, not by prejudice and not by vested interest”

    What was that?

    “driven by evidence and fact, not by prejudice and not by vested interest”

    But its okay for the Beeb to do that. Perhaps if Rhona had done her well paid job properly this wouldn’t be happening.

    I hope the Beeb goes the same way as the Labour Party, down the U-bend for their betrayal of Britain.

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  10. Dover Sentry says:
    August 17, 2015 at 8:34 am

    BBC News Website today:-

    “”BBC Trust chairwoman urges end to ‘political pressure'””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33955726

    In other words, leave us alone, we’re all doing very well financially as it is.

    Here’s an extract:
    “”Writing in the Independent, Rona Fairhead said the BBC’s future must be “driven by evidence and fact, not by prejudice and not by vested interest”.
    “”She also complains of MPs attempting to interfere in the broadcaster’s affairs.””

    ..

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    • Lobster says:
      August 17, 2015 at 9:17 am

      “Writing in the Independent” – what a shock!
      It would have to be that or the sodding Guardian, wouldn’t it?

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      • Guest Who says:
        August 17, 2015 at 9:54 am

        Odd choice, given its relative ABC rankings.

        Maybe she felt it would offer a more welcoming audience, which the BBC can in turn quote on their own pages. Oo, look, just what they have done.

        Interestingly, in a summary of newspaper front pages, only the Indy and Graun gave Gordo’s ‘statesintervention’ in the Labour Leader Epic front pages, as the rest, like the actual public, looked elsewhere for what is ‘news’ ((c) A. Newsroom Tealady).

        Seems you can indulge in such things if you are loss-making, propped up by an oligarch or uniquely funded by compulsion.

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    • shelly says:
      August 17, 2015 at 9:25 am

      “”She also complains of MPs attempting to interfere in the broadcaster’s affairs.””

      LOL just keep signing the cheques and leave us alone says Rona

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      • Grant says:
        August 17, 2015 at 9:32 am

        I think the BBC should be “driven by evidence and fact and not by prejudice and vested interest “.

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      • Doublethinker says:
        August 17, 2015 at 9:47 am

        The best way for the BBC to avoid any political pressure is for it to become a fully commercial organisation!

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    • G.W.F. says:
      August 17, 2015 at 9:56 am

      “”She also complains of MPs attempting to interfere in the broadcaster’s affairs.””

      A good one – so Harman et al do not have any input in the broadcaster’s affairs.

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  11. 60022Mallard says:
    August 17, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Apologies if already covered but I listened to the Jewish escapee from Hitler on the lunchtime news programme on Radio 4 yesterday telling me how horrible our treatment of the present migrants is.

    She did rather undermine her point when she said there were “millions” of them, but of course the interviewer did not put two and two together to compare the numbers then and now.

    What I find more interesting would be to know just how she got to be interviewed. How did the BBC pick her up? Why did the BBC pick her up – well we all know that.

    It infuriates me when lefties winge on about the power of Murdoch while BBC editors wield many times the power without any accountability.

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    • G.W.F. says:
      August 17, 2015 at 9:53 am

      How did the BBC pick the Jewish escapee up? A good place to look for BBC sources is in the SWP and the movement they control, the UAF. The latter is a Trot/Muslim bunch of street thugs, which has lately been recruiting Jews, running (subsidised?) visits to the former Nazi death camps, and focusing on holocaust survivors. The message is that the EDL (possibly UKIP) are trying to create a Nazi state here and the UAF are sourcing Jews who will agree that Muslims are today’s persecuted Jews. So it won’t be hard to locate Jews who will make the comparison with today’s Muslim migrants.

      In standard Trot fashion the problem of Israel and Palestine is avoided by censoring discussion on that topic in their social media outlets.

      The hard left are a good source for the BBC – hence the audiences in Question Time. A regular on the BBC – as an expert on Islamophobia and race – is Weyman Bennet, leader of the UAF with a record of violence.

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  12. John Anderson says:
    August 17, 2015 at 9:50 am

    Matthew Price makes his biased debut as presenter on the Today programme :

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/17/bbc-presenter-matthew-price-live-on-radio-4-ukip-is-far-right/

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    • Guest Who says:
      August 17, 2015 at 10:02 am

      ‘Breitbart London has reached out to Mr Price for comment, but no response has yet been received.”

      If they ever do, it will be an anonymous spokesdrone waffling about editorial integrity, ‘just joking’, or some BS, and if a viewer complains in 6 months (Fraser Steel by return only for certain folk and issues) the Guidelines will be quoted as allowing such things… and they’re banned.

      It’s unique alright

      ‘He has been previously accused of anti-Israel bias’

      Uh-oh, Jezza better watch out. He’s getting on and Matty will be elevated to ME impartiality oversight before you can say ‘Tom Jones’.

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  13. nogginator says:
    August 17, 2015 at 10:01 am

    Al BBC, on immigrants
    The dangerous night-time dash to Kos
    The fight for food and water in Kos … The indepth report
    Vienna hotel run by refugees
    “European officials say the plight of migrants, almost 250,000 of whom have crossed by boat to the continent this year, is “beyond urgent”… a thought for the consequences? nah! don t be silly

    Meanwhile, in the real world … immigrants
    “Muslim and Gypsy Gangs Battle For Supremacy on Streets of Europe,”
    Breitbart, Aug 16 “Brutal and ruthless” Muslim, and “violent” Roma gypsy gangs are terrorising the streets of dozens of major European cities, as they vie for control of lucrative black market trade. Running drug rings and pimping prostitutes, as well as “owning” legitimate street businesses can be worth tens of millions of euros a year – and more – to the immigrant criminal gangs of Europe. Having influence over territory is key to making this business model work.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/16/muslim-and-gypsy-gangs-battle-for-supremacy-on-streets-of-europe/
    Example
    “Berlin police estimate of the 30 criminal Muslim family clans in Berlin, each of which has up to 500 members, one tenth of all members are engaged in serious criminal activity at any given time. And they dominate the criminal landscape: a German senate report found that between 2011 and 2014, the majority of all gang crime suspects in the country were of “Arab origin”.

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