Boris Johnson counters Dan Hodges’ judgement of history with a bit of historical perspective……
‘Mass migration brought down the Roman Empire’?
Boris Johnson has reacted to the image of Aylan Kurdi and described it as a “very, very shocking image”, writes Henry Samuel in Calais.
“It’s very difficult; we have to address the problem at the source and stop people coming like this, but certainly if people are really in need and are scared for their lives, we must receive them,” he said.
But should the UK take more refugees?
It’s is very difficult because we mustn’t create the feeling around Europe in all these zones where there are problems that they can get here without any problem. We mustn’t created a pull factor and that’s the problem now, we must distinguish between those who are really scared of persecution and those who are migrants looking for a wealthier life.”
“We must above all be very clear with people who want to come from these countries that it’s not an Eldorado here, it’s not simply a question of turning up and receiving benefits. And I fear that if we don’t make this clear then we will create the conditions for migration to continue and increase.”
“Let us not forget that the fall of the Roman Empire was down to immigration. Massive movements of people in the end is not sustainable.”
Of course there is another historical perspective that invites comparison as millions of Muslims eye up an attempt to cross into Europe…..that BBC map at the top of the post looks awfully familiar…the Ottoman Empire and its incursion into Europe……
‘Europe’ as we know it will no longer exist in a very short time.
‘….but certainly if people are really in need and are scared for their lives, we must receive them.’
And there’s the problem – we are not very good at sifting out genuine asylum seekers, are we, let alone refugees. As for our record on returning false claimants – you might as well forget it. I think Cameron knows this, which is why he’s taking the stance that he is. So like any other walk of life it’s the cheating minority (or majority in the case of asylum seekers/refugees) who screw it up for the deserving majority (or minority, ditto).
Cameron will soon be brought to heel by Juncker and Shultz , they’ll let him have his fun for a few more days ,
but we all know what the inevitable outcome will be.
Indeed David Cameron has now capitulated on the migrant issue and has agreed for Britain, without any discussion with the voters, to receive numbers of immigrants-how many we don’t know yet. Over several years I have read the studies of those that have a deep understanding of the teachings of Islam. From all that research it has become quite clear that Christianity & Islam will never meet at any level. Receiving tens of thousands of those people now flooding into Europe who obviously are Muslim will bring great danger for all of us.
Islam is a belief of blood. It lives and thrives on blood. It can be animal blood, enemy blood or even its own blood. Unless we see the handwriting on the wall and deal with them accordingly, before very long, Europe and America will have to turn its deed over to the new Islamic invaders or rebel and fight block by block, city by city. That’s when there will be blood.
Yes I am very concerned, and as much so from the placating, ignorant public and the ingratiating politicians.
Going back to history can be the basis of a lot to learn from, and is therefore well worth doing, but one thing the likes of the BBC manages (by incompetence or narrative management) to do is blow context out of the frame completely in ‘framing the story’ for the low end of its audience common denominator.
http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/refugee-crisis-dead-babies-and.html
Funnily enough Mrs. Who and I were chatting about what we could and should do, should push come to shove.
Must confess ‘kindertransport’ was a new one, but we had settled on folks in the boonies looking after kids sent from cities during the Blitz.
It got very complex, very quickly, because time has moved on, people have changed, rules and regs quantum levels more draconian, risks much greater and frankly unless forced to it simply didn’t seem worth the grief.
We happen currently to have two spare bedrooms that look like staying free now for a few years, if we don’t downsize or feel the urge to stand ready for grandkids in a decade or so.
So… on balance, housing two orphaned mites from a war zone a no brainer?
Er… no.
Beyond the basic human decency of making such an offer it all goes downhill very fast on a personal and state level with logistics and security.
Once they are in and under our care the odds are they stay in the UK forever, and if not us, with whom? Foster or adoptive parents we are not. Then what happens if elder siblings get located and need to join them? Or parents or gramps? So we act as a gateway to the state, meaning the taxpayer, carrying the can.
And what about the culture issues? Food? Language? Climate? Plus of course social services popping round to make sure no BBC 70’s DJ activity taking place in the carpark. Especially if they are coached to make claims by rellies waiting for ‘the call’ to rush to rescue, with a film crew in tow.
Basically a cluster-FUBAR on ever level waiting to happen, so we’ll pass. As should everyone bar brain-dead Labour leadership aspirants and the inhabitants on W1A and environs.
Not here, not now, not ever. But yes, humanitarian help to sort out the immediate needs and address the causes in properly managed centres that cater to genuine refugees. Like they do with those seeking a ‘better life’ across the oceans to Australia.
Would that be the £900 million Britain has already spent on the 21 properly managed refugee settlements in Turkey, Iraqi Kurdistan, Jordan, Lebanon?
Hungarian PM: Migrants Are Mostly Muslim, And This Threatens Christianity in Europe
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/09/03/hungarian-pm-migrants-are-mostly-muslim-and-this-threatens-christianity-in-europe/
That is the truth, but the media, and all politicians are intent on denying the obvious. Why I have no idea, as any large number of Muslims will destroy the host society.
Chris Butler BBC correspondent on Kos says: these people want to raise a new generation of Europeans. For all who value our Greco-roman and Christian heritage, be afraid, be very afraid . Meanwhile the B B C continues to press for the floodgates to be opened.
I don’t much care for Boris Johnson, but he has in a roundabout way, asked the right question. Unfortunately in the multi-cultural fantasy land of the BBC a majority Muslim Europe would bring nothing but peace and harmony. After all, Western civilisation is just dead white males, right?