The Telegraph reports an example of those ‘desperate’ migrants….refusing to go to a refugee camp…..no longer ‘refugees’ then?…what is it they want, was it safety or a new life in Europe?….Maybe the BBC can answer as they report the migrants chanting “Germany, Germany.”
EU migration crisis: Hungary refugees trying to reach Austria refuse to be taken to camp and forced off train – latest
The train, which left at 10.20 BST was bound for towns near the Austrian border and several hundred migrants were on board.
James Badcock in Budapest said that the train then stopped at Bicske, which is one of the country’s four main refugee camps.
Migrants were then taken off, state news agency MTI reported, and AFP estimates that about 250 to 300 migrants were on board.
The train was due to split, with three carriages due to travel to Szonbathely and the rest to Sopron, both near Hungary’s western border with Austria.
ITV’s James Mates has tweeted that a man and woman with a baby were on a track at a Hungarian train station in a desperate attempt not to be taken to a migrant camp nearby.
Man and wife with tiny baby throw themselves onto track demanding not to be taken to camps. Getting c distressing pic.twitter.com/ploEd11rAH
But he later tweeted that Hungarian police were forced to let them back onto a train.
Hungarian police failed to control those they wanted to take to the camp. Forced to let them back onto train. pic.twitter.com/4yQqVaEwI6
One ”newspaper” I think it was the Sun rag had a smug headline, ”800,000 immigrants are coming but don’t worry they’re all going to Germany.” Sigh, once given an EUSSR passport these invaders can move to any country they wish.
So they are shouting “Germany, Germany” ,not deutsch, deutsch then. So,really they will end up in England,England, on benefits,benefits.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-34136615
German police out of the goodness of their hearts are erecting tents to make an asylum camp inside the grounds of the police HQ! Wonder if the chant changes to “Sweden Sweden” now.
Migrants told to get off train to goto #Bicske camp and b registered to apply 4 asylum otherwise will b liable to get arrested. Authorities stress “open camp,” ask for cooperation. “We won’t get off train. You’re all liars and thieves,” shout refugees.
Oh joy! how ungrateful. If I said all Hungarians were liars and thieves I’d be in front of the judge!
I have mentally refused to link the Calais problem with that of other swarms migrating across Europe, the former being one that concerns us alone and the latter one which doesn’t concern us at all thanks to not being part of Schengen.
However I am beginning to think that if Boy Dave gives in to the Twatterati and allows migrants to be allocated across all EU countries and doesn’t get a binding agreement to refuse benefits for (at least) 4 years to all economic immigrants, including those from the EU, then the UK is sunk for at least 3 years. Those 3 years will see the in-out referendum next year and the 2 year notice to leave the EU which the ‘no’ result would cause.
I am a lifelong Tory but this really is the last chance for both Boy Dave and the future of the UK. If he caves in I could never vote Tory again, and UKIP would get another supporter in the 2020 GE.
OMG break it to me gently why not! 2 years notice!!! I don’t think I could last that long.
We have no influence on Schengen , as we are not part of it , that is still in force, unless the others suspend it.We have opted out of an EU asylum dictact too . What a lot of kippers forget , like the SNP , they would still be required to hold a referendum ,to get us to leave .There would be no UDI , as the EU would not recognise it. The main problem is convincing enough people to get a majority, but that`s the job of the “NO”campaign .
So why are these migrants moving north rather than south to the countries of ‘the religion of peace”? Of course it is those countries from which they are fleeing but when, as is inevitable, they reach our shores they will bring with them the intolerance which identifies with that ‘religion’ (cult).
I texted this question to Nick Cambell on Five Live discussion on immigration. No reply -what a surprise.
Everybody has been horrified at the film of the poor young boy’s drowned body, but… These “migrants” aren’t drowning because Europe is inhospitable and full of heartless xenophobes who won’t allow them to stay here. They’re drowning because they think we WILL allow them to stay here.That’s why they’re risking their lives… and the lives of their children. Germany have pledged to take an astonishing 800,000! It’s Europe’s richest country so is it any wonder we heard the refugees chanting “Germany, Germany”?
I’m afraid that our prime minister, the political weather vane, Dave is beginning to waver. I have no faith in that man whatsoever. The pc mob will exploit the pictures of that tragedy and Dave will adopt his caring expression and tell the cheering Guardianistas to let ’em all in.
You know, this is so challenging to my Christian beliefs. On the one hand is compassion but on the other is honesty. Where I live white British are 16.7% of the population (I rejoice that the UKIP candidate kept his deposit at the general election!). I have just been served my eviction notice. Property sold, new landlord wants to develop. Rents are sky high and we will probably be paying twice as much as we were because round here the private renting seems not to check up on exactly how many people are in a one bedroom flat and unlike the other 83.3% of my borough’s population I don’t believe in six to a room. But!!! if push comes to shove we will take any place we can call home and then use the time there to hopefully improve our lot. It’s not a nice position to be in and unfortunately I can’t take my work to other regions of the country but if temporarily we have to live all in one room with a shared bathroom etc then so be it. But we will be safe. My sympathies for the Syrian migrants wanes when they cherry pick their place of refuge and put their children’s lives in jeopardy rather than seek the safest sanctuary to get to.
I love London. I lived in Balham back in the day. But even if you’re wealthy, quality of life is sh*t!
Get out at all costs! You’ll be glad you did. London is destined for disaster.
The father of the drowned boys said that he paid 5000 euros to go accross by boat from Tiurkey to Greece. Thats a lot of money, He probably has atleast another 5000 euros. So why did he leave Turkey, where he and his family were safe? The responsibility for the deaths of those boys rests firmly with the parents including the mother.
Yet, everyone is pointing the finger at us in Europe. We are being played for suckers by Muslims, experts in becoming the victims after every terrorist attack by Muslims on us. The invasioin of Europe is on. I dont think Muslims could ever have imagined that they could succeed using unarmed force, when armed force had failed.
Agreed but Sky News last night had an interview with an aunt in Canada, who supposedly funded the 5000 euros. She was all weapy and stuff, as you would expect.
Seems the family had previously tried to get asylum in Canada and failed, although the reason for failure wasn’t given or I missed it).
The situation becomes more insane by the hour. Radio 4 was at Budapest railway station this morning giving us descriptions of young Syrian children and babies waking up and how the UK is about to except 1000s more. The migrants are allowed en-mass to illegally enter the EU and then they are getting upset that they cant pick and choose which EU country they settle in! The BBC thinks this is completely reasonable , why should they stay in a country like Hungary with its reputation of not welcoming foreigners.
When is someone going to condemn Merkel for the death of the toddler ?
His blood is on her hands, her irresponsible actions in welcoming the swarm will only lead to more people taking risks to get their golden ticket.
Her irresposibilty extends to Germans, who will have to pay for these people who are hell bent on getting a better life – at German taxpayers expense.
Then there wil be the huge cost of security measures – and if they dont work, the blood of innocent Germans. And finally, once the 1million + 10 dependants = 10 miilion each year, have their EU IDs, they can travel anywhere they like in Europe, as well as the rest of the world.
Our politicians, except for Hungary, are insane and stupid beyond measure.
The continuing sob sob wave of crap carries on relentlessly on BBc breakfast reporter is in Hungary where it’s raining and more miserable oh how sad my heart bleeds. “Most of them as Syrian” the reporter adds. Heartbreaking scenes blah blah blah. Back to the studio where a woman working with the Syrian community in Britain blah blah blah they fear having chemical weapons dropped on them blah blah. Back to the studio bloke representing local government blah blah proud tradition of accepting refugees blah blah.
As reported earlier in the thread, the populist Call Me Dave is wavering. Yet this populism for more mass immigration has been stoked up by the media, especially the BBC (aided and abetted by C4). Cameron is absolutely correct that the policy espoused by Merkel will simply encourage more migrants to come, even those who are out of the war zone and therefore not asylum seekers. Three cheers for the Hungarians as defenders of Christian Europe and common sense.
Cameron has been right so far and the bleeding heart lefties have been both wrong and guilty of short termism. The mass movement of peoples from poor countries getting gradually richer will carry on for decades unless it is countered. Europe cannot be expected to take these people who can pay thousands to traffickers, dress in trendy clothes and carry mobile phones and credit cards.
When will the BBC give us a more balanced analytical view of what is happening?
Two suggestions:
1. Devote the bloated overseas aid budget exclusively to (a) building better camps on Syria’s borders so that people can return home when we get the guts to intervene and remove ISIL and Assad. (b) Encouraging ambitious youngsters in sub-saharan Africa to stay at home and enrich themselves and their countries during their lives.
2. Encourage all UK residents of Pakistani ethnicity who want to go to Syria to go there and to offer a place to a genuine Syrian refugee for each one that goes.
If just fired off a short sharp e-mail to my MP (Tory) not that it will do any good but it made me feel better for a few seconds. Telling him he only got our households vote because we wanted to stop Labour at any cost and our concerns about immigration. I did write to him when we were told we were taking in 200 Syrians which I now know was another lie. I expect a non reply again.
Urge you to read this piece which concerns the very dangerous situation concerning Germnany and its Christian people.
Germany’s Muslim population is set to skyrocket by more than 700,000 in 2015, pushing the total number of Muslims in the country to nearly 6 million for the first time.
The surge in Germany’s Muslim population – propelled by a wave of migration unprecedented since the Second World War – represents a demographic shift of epic proportions, one that critics of the country’s open-door immigration policy warn will change the face of Germany forever.
Of the 800,000 migrants and refugees arriving in Germany in 2015, at least 80% (or 640,000) are Muslim, according to a recent estimate by the Central Council of Muslims in Germany (Zentralrat der Muslime in Deutschland, ZMD), a Muslim umbrella group based in Cologne. This estimate is not in dispute.
In addition to the newcomers, the natural rate of population increase of the Muslim community already living in Germany is approximately 1.6% per year (or 77,000), according to data extrapolated from a recent Pew Research Center study on the growth of the Muslim population in Europe.
Critics say that German officials, under pressure to solve Europe’s migration crisis, are ignoring the long-term consequences of taking in so many migrants from the Middle East and North Africa.In addition to security concerns (Islamic radicals are almost certainly trying to enter Germany disguised as refugees), they say, the surge in Muslim immigration will accelerate the Islamization of Germany, a process that is already well under way.
Islam is the fastest growing religion in post-Christian GermanyIslamic Sharia law is advancing rapidly throughout Germany, with Sharia courts now operating in all of Germany’s big cities. This “parallel justice system” is undermining the rule of law in Germany, experts warn, but government officials are “powerless” to do anything about it. At the same time, German judges are increasingly referring and deferring to Sharia law in German law courts.
Polygamy, although illegal under German law, is commonplace among Muslims in all major German cities. In Berlin, for example, it is estimated that fully one-third of the Muslim men living in the Neukölln district of the city have two or more wives.
Muslim men residing in Germany routinely take advantage of the social welfare system by bringing two, three or four women from across the Muslim world to Germany, and then marrying them in the presence of an imam (Muslim religious leader). Once in Germany the women request social welfare benefits, including the cost of a separate home for themselves and for their children, on the claim of being a “single parent with children.”Spiralling levels of violent crime perpetrated by shiftless immigrants from the Middle East and the Balkans have turned parts of German cities into “areas of lawlessness” – areas that are de facto “no-go” zones for police.Germany is home to more than 7,000 Salafists who adhere to a branch of radical Islam that is vehemently opposed to Germany’s democratic order. German officials say that 1,000 of these individuals are especially dangerous (some are believed to have joined sleeper cells) and could attack at any time.German media ( like BBC) consistently accuse commentators on the rise of Islam of engaging in hate speech, in an underhanded effort to try to intimidate them into silence. Meanwhile, the migration crisis shows no sign of abating. At a summit on migration held in Vienna on August 27, the EU Commissioner for European Neighbourhood Policy and Enlargement Negotiations, Johannes Hahn, said: “There are 20 million refugees waiting at the doorstep of Europe. Ten to 12 million in Syria, 5 million Palestinians, 2 million Ukrainians and about 1 million in the southern Caucasus.”
And if anyone does not realise that Islam wants to destroy the West, they had better leave or be ready for battle.
I wonder if Bavaria & Saxony will succeed from Greater Germany now ?
It’s an interesting article but where did it come from? Is there a link?
Of course, the writer is assuming that once they arrive in Germany all these people will stay there. They won’t, but if they want to argue that Germany is being used as a bridge to assist the the assimilation of all these people across Europe for decades to come then I’m sure many would agree.
German popular culture can by stereo typed as Beer, Pork Sausages and Buxom Blond Ladies. No doubt the new arrivals will integrate perfectly and everyone will live happily ever after.
Almost all politicians are liars but David Cameron has to be the biggest liar ever. He is totally worthless.
12.40 pm BBC news channel interviewed young Syrian guy at Budapest station who thinks that ‘the world ‘ should enable him to go and study in Germany. Am I alone in thinking that the BBC should stop these interviews with their heavily loaded questions?
I see that the horrendous Sturgeon is milking the migrants issue for all she can. all reported faithfully by the beeb.
All “refugees” should be located in Scotland. England has enough already. Sturgeon can’t complain if 6 milion refugees from all over “Syria” (i.e. the Northern half of Africa and the Middle-East) are settled into Scotland, and outnumber the locals, as she’s all in favour of their coming to the UK.
These migrants sure as hell have learned lessons from their mates in Gaza. To generate almost sycophantic sympathy, nothing, but nothing, beats images of women, children and babies, and especially photographs of casualties amongst them. The media swarm about those like flies to the proverbial – and emote, emote, emote, ad infinitum. Not least in the case of the BBC.
Long gone, now, are the actual figures associated with these ‘migrants’. The truck which turned up in Austria a couple of weeks ago was the real start of this loss of focus. Yes, (and I agree, it was tragic) there were women and children in the back of that truck….. but out of the 71 bodies, there were 59 men, and like the vast majority of the ‘migrant’ hordes I have seen on TV (when cameras have not been focused on the odd woman or child in the midst of them), most of these are young men. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that a significant influx of single young men of a quite different background to an indigenous population is a powder-keg waiting to blow. The banlieus of Paris and Marseilles, for example, bear witness to that.
But all we are seeing and hearing now is focused on the minority number of young families in these huge numbers of ‘migrants’, and the BBC have fallen for it hook, line and sinker, because it plays into their anti-Tory (and quite happily for the BBC, I guess, their anti-UKIP) agenda big time. The Labour Party leadership contenders have quite happily slid into their ‘caring’ mode and joined the battle on the side of the BBC – well, none of them have anything to lose, and they might as well all get another free kick at the current government as the BBC is allowing them to repeatedly do, without any comment from their political opponents. Laura Kuenssberg hasn’t taken long to slot into her political editorship in the BBC, setting up the mantra that our PM is ‘behind the curve’ on this issue – i.e. he’s not falling quite as foolhardedly into the traps she and the rest of the Beeboids are trying to set out in this arena.
Then, this morning, on the ‘Today’ programme, I am sure I heard some beeboid actually say that these people cannot now be called migrants, they are truly all refugees now….I wondered how long it would take for that tactic to be deployed, since it basically shuts out any argument, or even discussion, about the real status of all these ‘migrants’. Much like some other topics rendered moot by the BBC by such phrases as ‘the science is settled’, ‘racism is impossible for non-whites’, etc
Shortly after that we heard about a female Teacher of English who had escaped Homs, in Syria, and had gone to Lebanon (which for many years has been heavily under Syrian influence) – a safe country we were led to believe by the BBC until recently, since It would have no truck with anyone who mentioned the Syrian-backed Hezbollah terrorist/political group as having a significant degree of control in Lebanon. Not satisfied with reaching a place of safety, she and her family have trekked, we were told, through Turkey, Macedonia, and Greece, amongst other countries, and now she and her family wanted to go to Germany….. and clearly she was in no mood to claim asylum in just any old place of safety – I thought all of that ruled out any question that she and her family were real asylum seekers ? Not even contemplated by the Beeboid interviewer, who simply accepted that she didn’t like any of these countries. Asked why she particularly wanted to go to Germany…. it was for family reasons and for work she said…. and then went on to say she hoped she’d be able to get the rest of her family (she didn’t mention where they were at the moment) to Germany also – her mother, her brothers (and any other associated family members no doubt). Now, you might have thought that a Syrian teacher of English might have a better chance of a job in the UK ? Not even explored as a real destination by the Beeb.
Germany, do you really realise what you are doing by promising to take 800,000 (is that an annual quota ?) into your fold ? You have just set up the biggest magnet reason for people to set sail from Lybia, Turkey, wherever, since at the moment there are only 300,000 (I think that’s the number being bandied around) already in Europe. And then, with that, will come the entitlement, as it will be seen, for families to arrive to be with their relatives already in Europe… and with the majority of these ‘migrants’ being young men at the moment….it’ll be a fun time around the old city centres in Germany…. until they can get potential wives into the country to continue the growth of the non-indigenous population.
And the BBC refusesto see, and refuses to put the picture together for viewers or listeners, that if all of the clamour going on at the minute to ‘just do something’ is acceded to by ‘Europe’, it will guarantee the numbers will swell each year as time goes on, and to hang with the ‘sailing season’ in the Med, there will be European rescue ships setting up a timetable with raft-owners in Libya and Turkey throughout the year to facilitate the entry into Europe of half of the Middle East (Yemen next ?) and half of Africa.
Blind, Biased Corporation.