Well, the emotional blackmail from the BBC (along with others) has worked and we can now look forward to thousands of Syrians enriching our country. You have to hand it to the BBC, they use the power of their broadcasting monopoly to undermine our country at every opportunity! Anyway here’s a new open thread.
WEEKEND OPEN THREAD!
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To be fair it’s in section 4 of the BBC charter:
(e) bringing the UK to the world and the world to the UK;
Only I don’t quite think that’s what the government had in mind.
It looks like Sky use the same criteria as bBBC QT and AQ, stacking their audience with loony lefties.
Cooper asked that question and managed to keep a straight face?
Pity she didn’t ask her husband that before he and Brown went on the biggest spending splurge this country has ever seen.
Just watched a VI former called Jones reviewing the newspapers on the Andrew Marr show claiming that a large number of economist back Jeremy Corbyns policies. Could I remind this lad who would have been too young to remember that 365 economist signed a letter telling Mrs Thatcher that her policies would lead to disaster.
The fucking public purse Yvettee. Didn’t bother you with your house flipping and expenses did it?
By the way Yvette I voted Jeremy Corbyn and that other clown Angela Eagle on my ballot paper because I despise your party and want it destroyed. I am a UKIP supporter who has given over £100 pounds to that party. Your vetting policy is a joke.
Angela Eagle!
I never even thought of that disastrous combination! Here’s me thinking Andy Burnham was the biggest liability after Corbyn.
It HAD to be Angela for deputy. And here’s why…
We’re currently spending £50 billion per year, on interest, for money the government could have created itself. Given the money, the government has borrowed, was conjured out of thin air, by the banks, via fractional reserve banking, I’m quite up for printing the interest on the loans. Before we can do that, we need to balance the books (excluding interest payments). You can’t just print money for ‘nice things’ and hope for the best.
Sensible editorial in today’s Telegraph,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11842643/The-refugees-welcome-fad-will-do-more-harm-than-good.html
A pity the BBC can’t be so rational.
Also good comments in the letters in the Telegraph today.
Here’s a subject for the Moral Maze: You are walking down an empty street, say Salford, or Rotherham, late at night, and you see a bbc reporter (male or female, it doesn’t seem to matter) being raped by a muslim illegal immigrant. What do you do?
As you pass by on the other side, remember to ask the reporter if they are feeling culturally enriched.
No, the answer may be sweeter than that. My answer is you call the police. You don’t try to be a hero because that’s what we are always being told, and with muslims, it’s probably good advice. Then you offer to be a witness for the prosecution. Now, if the bbeboid decides to allow the prosecution, they’ll have to publicly acknowledge that at least one illegal muslim immigrant is a violent woman hater (and or a kafir hater); which is opposite of everything the bbc drones have been spouting all their working life. If, on the other hand, they refuse to press charges, word will get out and it will be open season for all bbc staff. Haha.
I can see where you’re coming from, but it wouldn’t work that way. The victim would have anonymity, so nobody would know they were Beeb. So, no mea culpa would be required. It could be buried as ‘local news’ with a page on the site and no link, unless you happen to search Google – usual Beeb practice for problem stories.
Personally, I’d grab a brick smash the kunz head open and leave the scene (with the brick). I doubt the police would bother looking too hard. I certainly wouldn’t get ‘involved’ – she’s go from rapee to prosecution witness in the drop of a hat. Especially if you used an un-PC term (e.g animal, Muslim scum, etc) as you pulled the scummy muslim animal off her.
Walk on by with a comprehension of the term Karma.
Well, yes, and the Mail had an excellent article on the subject by Richard Littlejohn today.
Sadly, both papers also played major parts in whipping-up the sympathy by (to borrow Shelly’s excellent phrase of the other day) ‘guilt bombing’ their readers with hyper-emotional porn pics.
The Mail sadly epitomizes the priority sets in news, with ratings trumping all, and integrity at the end.
The BBC is no different, but adds an unhealthy dose of sociual engineering agenda meddling into the mix for bad measure.
Any news on how many the USA are taking ?
St Obama seems to be quiet on this.
How many are Russia taking? Mind you, I think Putin’s got more sense.
Putin knows that if Russia steps in to house a good portion of ‘refugees’ it will end the crisis (migrants will stop risking their lives for the chance they might end up in Russia) – something I’m sure Putin is laughing at. When will we Europeans learn that being too kind is a vulnerability. Tears and kind words are far removed from reality.
I think Poland shoud take in a million of them……to replace the million Poles here in Britain….most of those Poles have houses in Poland, and now in Britain…..confiscate the houses and re-house the migrants, see how the Poles like it….
And a Syrian shop on every corner that won’t sell pickles and cabbage. Arabic spoken louder than Polish on the buses. Welcome to multiculture Poland.
The message of this week for the BBC has been that propaganda works as they have helped force Cameron to follow their lead.
Cameron knows there are about 5M internal refugees in Syria, and 4M in the ‘front line’ states of Turkey, Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan. He knows also that these countries are relatively poor themselves by European standards, and that the UK foreign aid to these areas of £900M is far more than any other European country has given. He knows this helps more people than letting 10k into the UK.
He knows all this but has buckled to emotional blackmail, partly I suppose to avoid opprobrium at dinner parties. So now we see government by hash tag and media spin.
Meanwhile, elsewhere, on average 2200 children a day die of diarrhea from dirty water. Can we see their photos?
I’m sure alBeeb can find a photo of a dog in distress fleeing Turkey! Then we’ll let another 10,000 in.
Camoron … “Forced” 😀 ROFL!
Your talking as if he s any modicum of ability or control
The moron is simply a “weathercock”, the soundbite kid
Why are all of our politicians so utterly shit-scared of the Twitterati? For Christ’s sake can’t just one of them summon up the courage to tell them to f**k off. That’s all it would take to give the rest of us a modicum of hope.
Nogginator
Spot on! Suckered by a BBC sob story. It shows what useless scum floats to the top in the world of British politics. Camerloon seems to think his job is to push the interrsts of Syrians to the detriment of English citizens. Complete failure on limiting net immigration Pity he cannot be removed before he can do any more harm. At least the politicians in the Czech Republic and Slovakia have grasped the idea that their duty is to act in the interests of the citizens of their country and not to pretend to be some new-age guru who feels the pain of all sentient beings throughout the universe.
Sky News are saying it might be because his wife has given him a hard time. Wow. What a way to form government policy – spousal nagging…
Well, it worked for gay marriage.
Never underestimate the influence the spouses of presidents and prime ministers wield.
I recall reading somewhere that Mrs Camerloon is (like a lot of toffs) quite progressive in her thinking.
The Tories need to understand that the principal opposition party will now be Ukip not the Corbyn far-left pressure group, sorry I meant Labour.
Today’s capitulation to BBC and Channel 4 media distortion will only benefit UKIP in Tory seats, adding to the gains they will make in Labour held seats.
CBC (Canada) can ask this; why not the bBBC? How many Syrian refugees are wealthy Gulf states accepting? Zero.
The irony is the area that’s taking no refugees at all is where historically the Syrian Arab (i.e. Muslim) population spread out from hundreds of years ago.
Apparently Japan accepted 2 (two) refugees last year – the rest were rejected. Why do I get the impression that the Japanese might actually be checking whether the sob stories are genuine? Why can’t we check? Oh yeah, it’s because checking might endanger their families, so best just to take things on face value…
If you want to try to counter the MSM there is a petition to sign
Stop allowing immigrants into the UK.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477
You never know it might make a difference
Just checked it – it is gathering momentum – worth a repost
A day or two ago, Deborah posted to say how difficult it is to know what is actually going on in Syria as there are no reporters on the ground there.
At the time, I agreed ( still do), but then this came along…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-03/flashpoint-white-house-confirms-russian-presence-syria-warns-it-destabilizing
Thanks nfop I suppose I should have guessed Russian involvement in Syria, silly of me not to. The last I had heard was that ISIS were on the run and Assad was doing well, assume from the linked article, that is stale news. I still say a plague on all their houses.
As Ramzpaul says ” It would be better if Budapest was hit by a nuclear bomb than mass immigration, one could recover from it, but you can’t recover from an African Arab invasion tsunami, they’ll turn Europe into the Third World.”
With regards to depopulating and then repopulating a country, he has said exactly what I was thinking – i.e. if everybody in the UK died and the Dutch moved in, the UK would be like Holland. If the Somalians moved in, it would be like Somalia. What I just don’t understand is the Left, that always bang on about the Scandinavian Social Model, want the UK to take in people that are the complete opposite of Scandinavian people/culture and expect the UK to magically become more like Scandinavia. How can they not see this?
Now that David Camoron and the Cuckservatives are going to import these Syrian invading hordes, how does all this fit with Ian Drunken Smith’s welfare reforms ? will the Afghan granny in a wheel chair get disability living allowance ? will the Syrian guy who lost his son get a new set of teeth on the NHS ?
I’d say the answer to your questions, David, are both Yes and No.
1. Yes, if they can get to Germany and acquire a EUSSR passport. In that scenario, they can leave Germany at any point and come here unchallenged.
2. No, if they fail to get to Germany, since neither will be in a camp close to Syria.
I’d say the probability of 1 above is higher though.
BBC PM radio 4 asks why the fabulously wealthy gulf states aren’t taking in any refugees, and comes up with the most amazing answer imaginable !
Apparently they aren’t taking refugees because
a) Visas are difficult to get (sorry ? The states themselves control who they issue Visas to, and these are porous borders anyway!
b) This really is the most amazing excuse – they have small populations and taking in massive numbers of refugees which could number a quarter of their population could change the demographic and damage their culture !
Pardon????? What have the Fascist left been doing to Europe for the past 3 decades ? We now how an immigrant population of at least a quarter of the indigenous one and we are told it’s ‘vibrant & enriching’ ! But while it’s a positive thing for the ‘Waycist’ whites – who don’t matter, it’s completely unacceptable to visit the same enrichment on the Arabs !
Primitive cultures – especially Islamic ones – must be preserved at all costs because the BBC consider them far superior to our own. Why else would gender segregation (for example) never get a mention on the BBC?
A soldier has died in an ‘Incident’ at barracks in Bicester, in view of has gone before and threats issued one does immediately jump to a certain conclusion. Let’s hope we get to hear the truth.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/603104/Soldier-dies-Army-barracks-St-Davids-Barracks-own-weapon-fired
Was there ever a time when the LiberalElite were so removed from and contemptuous of true public opinion in the UK?
The BBC ,of course, is their grande-dame mouthpiece ,this much we know already.
But ,I ask the question ‘Is there no limit to the measures that the LiberalElite can impose on our country, AGAINST the wishes of the majority ,specifically in the matter of immigration and EU compliance’?
It seems to me that they truly don’t care what we think anymore. My guess would be that we are inexorably headed for a draconian Police State wherein dissent is criminalised .
An utterly depressing prospect for a country that twice fought for Democracy in the last century.
“we are inexorably headed for a draconian Police State wherein dissent is criminalised .”
It already is or hadn’t you noticed?
More CCTV cameras in London than in East Germany.
I have CCTV around my own home as do several neighbours, they have proved a great security feature and have been used as evidence in court for a serious crime.
I’m guessing you must be almost fully enriched, if you all need CCTV. Once you’re fully enriched the CCTV becomes a liability.
Next step, high walls and gated communities, just like South Africa.
It seems to me that they truly don’t care what we think anymore
Why should they? What are we going to do about it other than gripe on our keyboards?
Indeed. And when nearly 4 million of us defied their media outlets and voted for opposition to the liberal hegemony – why, they just carried on regardless.
Form yourselves into local militia. Join a gun club, buy a shotgun, learn to shoot. Stop feeling helpless
Watching live pictures on the 6pm news and quisling number one Matthew Price roadside in Hungary. A stream of immigrants walk on by and I swear they are all – ALL – fit and healthy young men.
Price must feel a tad embarrassed – so much so that he feels obliged to tell us that there are women and children among them. But we can see with our eyes Matthew.
If this is not a Muslim invasion of Europe by stealth then I don’t know what is.
The future does not look bright.
Watch them, it’s BBc camera trickery selective shots in action. As I’ve said before it’s only recently all these women and children have suddenly appeared in the film.
I used to work in Indonesia and saw a piece by CNN about a mass demo by the US Embassy. It was filmed claiming there were thousands of demonstrators outside the Embassy. I just happened to be in a taxi at the time they claimed this was occurring. Saw the cameras pointing to around 50 people. ( I counted because I was in the inevitable traffic jams and had nothing better to do!). BBC use the same tactics and camera tricks. I no longer believe anything I see on “News” (really opinion) broadcasts any more and always look for the agenda.
The BBC are masters of crop media.
Matthew Price? Haven’t I heard than name before?
Oh yes. He who described UKIP as of the ‘far right’. Fancy him, of the ‘far left’, turning up in Hungary.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/08/17/bbc-presenter-matthew-price-live-on-radio-4-ukip-is-far-right/
And headlines about Hungarian PMs being ‘antagonistic’ by not sharing the EU and BBC’s views on all things.
It seems propaganda is now the norm.
This team could probably fix the migrant crisis in a jiffy
Has the PM lost his marbles ? If so, where are all the Conservative MPs?
Perhaps Essexman can tell us ?
Come on ,what would Farage do , he would let some in too. He stated during the election ,he did not want to be PM , but he would not repatriate any of them . And how many kippers voted for Blair in 97, 2001 & 2005 , the PM who started the process of mass immigration . I certainly did not .
Less than you probably think, I certainly didn’t, I voted Hague who had a very favourable manifesto, in 2001 (have a read) and then Michael ‘are you thinking what we’re thinking’ Howard in 2005.
Strange how suddenly both later changed their tune.
William Hague 2001
Time for Common Sense
We present here the most ambitious Conservative programme for a generation.
Its aim is to release the wisdom, decency and enterprise of British citizens. We can achieve that by handing back to individuals and families the ability to shape their own lives and communities.
We will free entrepreneurs to build businesses and to create prosperity, free those who use public services to choose what is best for them and free those who work in our schools and hospitals and police service from endless political interference.
We want to set people free so that they have greater power over their own lives. That is what I have always believed.
But there is something else too. I value those aspects of our national life which are bigger than individuals and families. That is why we will nurture our towns and cities, our countryside, our local institutions, our charities, our democracy — for they make us who we are as a nation.
Our programme is rooted in the instincts of millions of people whose beliefs are mocked by Labour. It is rooted, in other words, in common sense.
It shouldn’t be necessary to make an appeal to common sense.Yet the common sense wisdom of the mainstream majority, on crime, or on taxes, or the family, or on Europe, is under threat as never before.
Labour does not understand our country and cannot value what it cannot understand.
This meddling and interfering Government is eroding our freedoms as well as weakening the institutions that give us a sense of common purpose.
At this Election Britain has a choice between a Labour Party that trusts government instead of people and a Conservative Party that trusts people instead of government.
I trust the British people.
I trust their common sense.
It’s time for common sense.
William Hague
“what would Farage do ”
Well we wont know now will we ‘Essexman’
perhaps had you and your mates up the golf club had been more worried about the country than how much extra you might have to pay on the rates, 20 or more UKIP MPs might be putting the brakes on Vidkun Cameron and some back bone into those ‘conservative’ back benchers.
Point of information Mr Chairman. I don’t believe it is surgically possible to insert a spine into an invertebrate.
Sorry, you’re wrong. A spine can easily be inserted into an invertebrate. They tend to be very pliable. The trouble is, the spine serves them no purpose. Look at Cameron. Occasionally, he appears to have a spine, then it becomes clear it is just a rod stuck up his arse. Over the next few months, the rod is reinserted and manoeuvred, but the result is always the same – i.e. somebody in the media/EU/Washington grabs the rod and uses him as a ventriloquists dummy.
Essexman
Its not about ‘what would Farage do’, its about what on earth has Cameron done?
Where was the PM’s cabinet when he made that stupid decision ?
taffman, Good question. What became of the fresh intake of conservative MPs? Perhaps they were replaced by some version of the Stepford Wives.
As suspected Points West lead on the red trousered libtard mayor of Bristol offering to take in migrants. Plenty of interviewed, all positive to the idea.
Oh the irony with the following story, that being stroke victims are receiving very little post hospital support on the NHS…
I hope the viewers were connecting the dots that the program editors couldn’t or wouldn’t…
Cancer drugs cut, but obviously that is not linked to a larger population, with static tax receipts, due to low skill, low wage immigrants. Neither are school places, congestion or rent/house prices. Just end the austerity man…
What do you think of this, Rummenigge? Now he tells us!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34153686
I must confess that part of me wishes that the Cameroonatic would just open the borders to all, at least that way the problems we have with immigration, immigrants (+ their offspring) and the Progressives who infest this island would be dealt with once and for all. Either the English, the Scots and the Welsh would prevail and endure or we wouldn’t – it is better to fight on your feet than live on your knees. At the moment we still have the numbers; but for not much longer, especially with this ever increasing and unending flow of human rubbish from the 2nd and 3rd worlds into the country.
How come we never saw politicians, left wing luvvies and washed up rock stars offering up their homes in a blaze of hashtag righteousness when Christians and Yazidis were fleeing to the mountains to escape the butchery of ISIS? Wrong religions?
Geldof has, allegedly.
Who in their right mind would want to live with him? I think I would sooner take my chances with ISIS.
Hahahaha – good one Lobster
Yes, they are on the way to the Geldof open house
I’ve just received a memo from the BBC:
Apparently this image appears to be exclusively comprised of male electrical engineers and doctors. This is not the case and there are at least an equal number of female electrical engineers and doctors, as well as future electrical engineers and doctors. It must be noted that these women and children have not been trampled underfoot by a swarm off decent hard working refugees. Due to the inadvertent confusion associated with this image, however, the BBC has decided that all future reports will only contain images of female and future electrical engineers and doctors. It is important that none of these people should be identifiable as ‘other’ (e.g. headscarves) as this will play into the hands of the Far Right and the BBC has a responsibility to frame the debate in a responsible way.
@Grimer – I just wish you were joking.
Thanks Grimer – gave me a good laugh
This morning’s Today programme featured an interview with “Lord Hutton, chair of Nuclear Industry Association and a former Labour Defence Secretary and Tom Burke, chair of E3G – ‘Third Generation Environmentalism’ – a non-profit that advocates sustainable development” over the 6-year delay to the Hinckley nuclear power station build.
Burke advocated not building it at all and suggested it could easily be replaced by ‘renewables’. When asked how much of our power could be sourced by wind and solar he came back with ‘at least 45% and probably more’. The discussion continued – including relative costs – but I waited for the one question that is key to the whole debate of renewables expansion and it’s the one the BBC always, ALWAYS avoids asking: ‘What happens when the wind isn’t blowing and the sun isn’t shining?’ And they avoided it once more. Not even Hutton challenged Burke on it – presumably because it would expose the whole climate change/renewables scam that his government and Cameron’s have perpetrated on the gullible voters of this country.
The 70% of the population who rely on the BBC for their news therefore believe that renewables are the answer to our energy needs – with no ifs and no buts. As part of its ‘climate change’ agenda the BBC is an immovable advocate for renewables, still dutifully doing the bidding of its 28Gate environmentalist mates on this and also, just as vitally, fracking.
One can only hope that when the lights do go out and the old and vulnerable start dying from the cold – as is now inevitable unless there’s a big last-minute build of gas-fired power stations – somebody, somewhere will hold this contemptible, corrupt, agenda-pushing, poll tax-funded organisation to account, starting with prosecutions of Lord Hall-Hall, senior management, news and current affairs editors and members of the BBC Trust. A charge of manslaughter would not be unreasonable.
If even the climate loony thinks so-called renewables can fill 45% of our energy needs (they can’t of course), it follows that 55% must come from elsewhere. The only options are coal, oil, gas or nuclear. That’s it. Since the first three are fossil fuels which emit CO2 (which is harmless but let’s not go there), what is the leftist moron’s problem with nuclear?
I think the guy meant ‘at least 45% from renewables, plus large-ish (actually, enormous) quantities of CCGT on standby, plus quite a few private diesel generators of all possible sizes, plus interconnects across the North Sea to even it out a bit with power from coal-fired, nuclear, and gas capacity on the continent. Plus a giant battery the size of Leicestershire, plus some pedal-cycle generation, plus some from water running up-hill, plus one of those perpetual motion thingies, plus energy beamed from giant mirrors, plus a new way to smelt metal without using energy, plus paper packaging plus bus-lanes plus a tax on breathing plus clothes containing nanotechnology that charges your phone while you walk to work plus, plus..
Anyway, thanks, it’s almost a relief to get away from the Crisis. And it gives us the happy choice of dying by the sword, or by hypothermia. Or, ironically, having to wait until a glorious sunny, windy, day before electrocuting yourself.
Stuart – you forgot the new generation of wind turbines powered by fairy farts.
FFWT – corrected, thanks.
I don’t get it .
1 David Cameron should be “leading ” on the immigration crisis and be statesmanlike , ignore public opinion and take the moral high ground .
But
2 The public want the Syrians to come here , David Cameron should listen to them .
That’s how the BBC broadcast it .
I hate the BBC with a passion. i wish they would feck off to Syria.
They run on hate, like the gas used to run on coins. They count the hates, and cash them in with their masters.
http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2015-09-04/poll-is-david-cameron-right-to-saw-we-will-take-more-refugees/
Not BBc but running at 77% agree with me. Which is around the the percentage I expected.
Only 64% now.
Still, pretty definite considering a ‘No’ vote on this poll is a total rejection of taking any more, without any nuance, qualification or condition attached.
So almost twice as many people are totally rejecting ANY further imports from the ME. Wow!
Imagine what the voting might be like if, say, the question had been ‘Should we close our borders to all immigrants from the ME, regardless of possessing a Euro-ID or coming via Germany, but nevertheless assist up to 5k verified orphans per year from their original DP camps, without awarding them citizenship or rights of indefinite stay’ [or something equally nuanced]. I wonder if anyone would have disagreed with that – maybe a few, but I bet the ratio would be close to 99%..
On PM a BBC bird went interviewing ‘Syrians’ in Turkey and Greece to ask them whether, had they known Cameron was going to bring refugees to the UK directly from Syria, they would have bothered making their journeys to where they are now.
Just think about that question.
I have been watching a succession of increasingly bewildered cabinet ministers attempting to explain just what the xxxx our government are up to. I can hardly blame these hapless souls for seeming so confused seeing as just 24 hours ago they were arguing quite a different story. Of course that was until our pathetic excuse for a prime minister got a touch of the jitters due to a co-ordinated media hatchet job that had Dave shaking in his boots.
I’ve heard that we are now going to take “thousands” but just how many “thousands” is proving difficult to ascertain. Nothing will now pacify the left. Dave has buckled at his first real test and they can smell blood. He should have held his nerve and made the point that allowing “thousands” in will only encourage “thousands” more to attempt hazardous journeys. Natalie Bennett, on the lunch time news, was musing about 200,000 and then in the next breath 250,000 to come and join us in Blighty. Apparently, according to the leader of The Green Party,we’ve got plenty of space.
So, there you have it. Just what we need. A quarter of a million more Muslims.
What could possibly go wrong…
I don’t think Mr Cameron actually caved in. However, he has been publicly humiliated. I do not see him as a vengeful man, whatever his faults – however, I think there could well be a mighty reckoning for the BBC in particular. They have stepped so far over the threshold of what is acceptable in a ‘national’ broadcaster, that they could be in for the collective shock of their lives, if Mr C does decide to clear out the Augean stables. I doubt if there will be much warning, either.
I could be wrong – our PM’s record is not very good; but maybe the worm will turn – especially if he thinks that there are millions of others, turning too..
Politics is mostly compromise.
With all swirling about it is the art of taking the least bad and selling it as a solution.
Somewhere in there is the germ of an idea, taking genuine refugees, waiting patiently and playing the game.
I’d go further and restrict to kids and proven mothers. Military age males bottom of the list with an invitation to be assisted back to their homelands to defend them.
Solo young men grabbing the nearest moppet to wave around razor wire, or fathers flinging wives on railway tracks or kids in dingys without life jackets… not so much.
As to Mr. Cameron grasping how the BBC is one of the greatest threats to democratic process in this country, that is optimistic.
Stuart, one can only hope. This summer – all summer long – the BBC has led a very aggressive pro-‘migrant’ campaign, helped by their chums at CH4 (of course – no idiot more reliably idiotic than Jon Snow, after all) and most of the mainstream media.
But the BBC has been by far the most strident, assertive, wilfully doctrine about the issue and it has, many times, come very, very close to sounding like nothing less than a campaign pressure group; an advocacy outfit – all on the public dime.
There are serious questions of impartiality and balance for the BBC to address here. I can’t recall ever having been offered the views of anyone opposed to the influx of ‘migrants’ – not even on the main news bulletins and certainly not on Newsnight. Where are the counter-views, the balancing views? They are completely non-existent (because in the BBC’s view they simply don’t exist) in the BBC’s despicable coverage of the issue.
This is a saga in the BBC’s p*sspoor record on so-called ‘impartiality’ that will need to be revisited and forensically re-examined. The Corporation is flaunting its belligerence and tossing its mandated requirement for balance clear out of Broadcasting House. BBC journalists (although they are clearly not alone in this) sound increasingly like single-issue campaigners and the Corporation’s ceaseless editorialising on the subject is nothing less than political hectoring, often by stealth and ‘nudge’ but always without question and a clear refusal to truly, honestly debate the issue.
I don’t think the BBC has much to fear from Camerloon. Tearful and cute Beeboid offspring lamenting the fate of their parents on the social media would have Dave blubbing into his handkerchief. He would do the “right thing”, “show his humanity” and “open his heart” to “vulnerable” public servanrs by keeping them in their sinecures. Dave oozes compassion as a slug slime.
Another dismal Any Questions this evening.
Wish we had a prime minister with guts and sense like Vicktor Orban.
Yes the Guardian/BBC axis really do not like him.
Did anyone else feel like smashing the radio when “Lord” Pantsdown gave Al Beebus the benefit of his wisdom today? What a total f*****g tw@t! What idiots would care what a senior member of a party, which was overwhelmingly rejected by the electorate of this country; had to pontificate about on any subject, foreign or domestic?
Couldn’t agree more Al,
He is the most sanctimonious arse in politics……”When I was in the Special Forces, blah, blah, blah”…………..Paddy, just because you did something 40 years ago doesn’t mean you have a clue on anything else.
One of the best moments of 2015 was watching his humiliation as the LibDems were annihilated in the General Election………almost as if the SAS had been sent in.
I think that our PM has opened a Pandora’s Box. I would expect a sprinkling of ISIS terrorists in this lot coming form Syria. ‘Merkel The Bold’ was foolish to advertise the fact that her country would take in millions’ and they are all piling in.
While her ‘lapdog’ now follows in her steps. He can always say ‘The Germans started it!’
I suspect trouble ahead for Merkel and then, Cameron ………………
http://www.dw.com/en/alarmed-but-willing-to-help-how-germans-feel-about-the-surge-of-refugees/a-18693591
http://news.yahoo.com/support-merkel-drops-over-handling-refugee-crisis-093917548.html
“I suspect trouble ahead for Merkel and then, Cameron”
I suspect that in the next 5 years Vidkun Cameron will import several million Corbyn voters ( how much will the rates go up then I wonder?)
What we need is another Polish King Jan Sobieski to save Europe from the muslims.
Jan, Isabella and Ferdinand of Spain – true European heroes. Most other Europeans since their time have either been muslim lovers or cheese-eating or sauer-kraut eating surrender monkeys and apes, just as our muslim enemy calls them.
Hungary – the land of John Hunyadi, I like to think (if he were alive today) he’d have effective methods for dealing with all these “migrants” from the Middle East; who felt like wandering into his country – and it wouldn’t involve trains, buses and accommodation.
I’ll see your Isabell and Ferdinand and raise you one Vlad Tepes -( he had an interesting repatriation scheme )
SKY news Mark ” Distressing” Stone, ”The ”refugees” decided to get off the Hungarian train and proceed to walk to Austria.” no passports, no visas, no documents, just stroll into any country they fancy.
Precisely DB. Who do these immigrants think they are? They don’t appear to recognize international boundaries in any way; so are we really to believe that such people will readily accept the laws of our society and become wonderful, law abiding citizens if they are permitted to enter our country?
There are young women and girls in this country and others now, unaware that sooner or later , they will be raped and possibly killed by some of these men now swarming into the West. Muslims are notorious for rape, it is in their DNA, in their book, it is the will of Allah. People will be maimed and killed by gun and bomb by ISIS infiltrators of this muslim horde. Those people, alive now, will be marked by the cowardly actions of Cameron and Labour before him…….never let them forget it…chant murderer at the bastards for every atrocity….
here we go …
freedom march of the migrants
https://youtu.be/_j7jd2xs45Y
On one channel I don’t remember which Sky & BBc are pretty much inseparable on the illegals. One of the illegals collapsed on in front of the camera. Only to recover shortly afterwards The reporter commented there is no help from the Hungarians (or a close enough phrase). This was just after showing the illegals throwing away water and storming out of the reception centre. We are having bets on how long it is before the illegals in the camp and on the train are compared to another event by someone in the media. .
Image Test. Fail
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Image Test. Fail. I tried!
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/styles/node_embed/public/multimedia_images_2015/syria.boy_.jpg%253Fitok%253DYtGGGN4N&imgrefurl=https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/09/02/dispatches-why-i-shared-horrific-photo-drowned-syrian-child&h=626&w=946&tbnid=tzixvjFSOiIM9M:&docid=jMjrvZptAPz85M&itg=1&ei=kgTqVc-kKqTX7Qb99Y34Dg&tbm=isch&ved=0CFsQMyhYMFg4vAVqFQoTCM-1naKh3scCFaRr2wod_XoD7w
It would appear that the image was created on the 9th April 2015 (view properties within the google image)
The URL belongs to Human Rights Watch.
In particular this guy:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/09/02/dispatches-why-i-shared-horrific-photo-drowned-syrian-child
Sorry, but I think you’re mistaken. The date is in the American format – i.e. 9/4 rather than 4//9.
The picture was shown before the 4th, which was yesterday. In fact the author of the photo/HRW has stated that it is a re-tweet of the earlier published photo.
How strange the truth behind the pictures
drowned boy, dad wanted new teeth and all that …
that erm “eartwrenchin” pic of a gobshite dad, who pulled his wife onto the railway lines?
that orchestrated, could have done by the BBC
https://youtu.be/uA0n2cdtJtk
additional
We all know who killed those children. Their father. He killed his wife and he killed his children. Why? Because he was/is stupid and he is greedy. May God help us if he is typical of the intelligence of the swarm that is invading us.
The nutcase on the railway tracks, maybe Enema Thompson could adopt him, both are quite clearly bonkers.
5 moths pregnant wife. Who apparently is ‘not doing well’ according to the father (animal) when interviews on Sky News. No questions were asked as to why he threw his pregnant wife and child to the ground. He said he ‘wanted to die’, but we’ll never know why he felt his wife, son and unborn child should be violently forced to join him. Lovely chap. I’m sure he’ll integrate into Rotherham’s taxi driving community nicely.
Channel 4 (Not BBC) reported earlier this evening that eastern European states were expressing solidarity with Hungary.
Interesting.
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DS there was an emergency meeting in Prague yesterday between Hungary, Poland and the Czech and Slovak Republics. The purpose of the meeting was to agree a common position on the migrant crisis, which is basically the same as has been reported on Hungary.
They will not accept Germany imposing quotas, lets hope they can hold the line and get support for there stance from the UK.
bBBC News at Ten, Gavin Hewitt, alongside the illegal immigrants in Hungary, must have been paid extra if he could get the word ‘refugee’ into every sentence. Despicable bBBC propaganda for the Muslim men marching into Europe.
Its called “Hijrah”, its the reason all those young men, those erm “furious”, won t march into UAE, or Saud, or Kuwait.
Hijrah, or if Islamic jihad by emigration, (according to Islamic tradition, and repeats the migration or journey of Muhammad and his followers from Mecca to Yathrib).
So … ISIS is happy, A/. they get to practice Hijra, as per mohamhead … B/. sex slaves, prepubescent girls and traitorous Euro adherents to repopulate the caliphate … double whammy!
… oh and we foot the bill, we pay for, contribute to our own demise ,
and last week we were calling Sweden eh!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11418966/Islamic-State-planning-to-use-Libya-as-gateway-to-Europe.html
February 17, 2015
I haven’t listened to or watched any news on the bbc for weeks, a self imposed exile before my brain exploded in an apoplectic rage, but, after the liberal left’s disgusting and shameful exploitation of the poor child’s drowning (funny how the lefty scum are squeamish when it comes to showing any violent images but are happy to fully exploit the limp and lifeless body of a baby when it suites their cause), I had to put myself through the bullshit fest.
Sneering Nicky, Burden, arrogant Allen..all of them, presenting their shows with a sound of joviality and glee that was last heard before GE2015 and has been akin to a funeral dirge ever since. Two bob journalists all seemingly auditioning for a Pulitzer prize with their ever more heart wrenching descriptions of desperate and death defying journeys. These people have absolutely lapped this human misery up as though it is manna from heaven, their liberal socialist agenda has never had such a boost, they won’t even acknowledge the fact that it the EU’s open border, open everything, free money, education and health treatment for all policies that has helped cause this human misery.
It doesn’t matter that all law and order is basically breaking down, that dangers to health are likely to explode (as have household pests and vermin, and I know that for a fact), that the islamization of the UK will continue apace, that the resentment of people who simply don’t want this seemingly unstoppable swarm of migrants making the streets of the UK even more unrecognizable will eventually reach a breaking point just as long as they can fulfill their duties to saving all of humankind.
The totally unbiased bbc 5 dead lined up one liberal after another on their shows to espouse just how lucky we are to have had our county built by immigrants, how enriched we are, how our lives and country were basically shit before mass immigration…blah, blah, blah…and on the bullshit went. These people were bigging up their own part in the saving of humanity but not one of them come up with the solution of where we are going to put them all, how the NHS will stand up to even more free loaders, how the roads will cope with more traffic, how the education system will cope, how much more money the ignored taxpayers will have to stump up to keep these people? And not one of them admitted to giving up their spare room in their leafy suburb 5 bedroom home to house an immigrant family!!
If camoron had an ounce of decency he’d give the country the referendum on our EU membership immediately, but, with camoron being on a par with miliband and corbyn when it comes to socialist views, I doubt it will even happen in 2017.
Its the rule of the mob now. Europe have lost. Up to 1000 and the riot squad are called in to handle it. A couple of thousand and the military get called in. Hundreds of thousands and its their call. No country will turn the tanks on them, or the water cannons, so that’s it, they’ve won. Wanna go to Spain, or Switzerland, or Belgium, then just walk in. They’re an ever growing army without weapons. Demanding this and that, throwing water and food away, going on hunger strike, no problem, they’ll get their way in the end. The media are their campaigners. Just as beggars in the streets use dogs for sympathy, then this lot wave babies in the air like flags. Its obscene, and they are the ones who are inhumane, – what kind of parents are they treating their kids like that.
Yet what say do you, I, or anyone get over what is happening in OUR country…OUR country. Why do the far left liberal socialists think that everything that we pay for they own, that all that our forebears fought for was for their future?
The situation is creating a dangerous atmosphere across Europe, all the world can see that the EU is a jammed open door, no-one can stop any form of immigration be it one person or one hundred million people. Nigel Farage was wrong when he said that the UK borders are open the whole of the EU, they are open to the whole world…as long as you make it to the EU.
Exactly. Every fence they destroy, every road they march down, every water bottle they fling back in the faces of those who offer it, every baby they shake in the air like a gun, every pregnant woman they treat like excrement, every child they hide behind.. every lie they tell.
Our police are impotent, our armed forces are impotent, our politicians are impotent.. we are impotent. Civil Society – real civil society, not the cooked-up impersonation of the left and the lobbyists – is comatose, and so far cannot be woken up.
Daily Mail poll, the bBC et all seem tho be out of step with the majority of the country, despite their best efforts!
That is a fair old sample.
In a paper that has one of the highest ABC ratings, not a Graun propped up by the BBC.
It is odd that our vote-hungry political classes seem to be ignoring the people’s clear will in favour of pleasing Geldof, Yasmin, Emma etc on twitter.
Yes, the whole BBC “refugee” line this week has been about “accepting” as many as come.
It doesn’t seem to matter that as things stand you have to wait a month to see the doctor of your own choice.
It doesn’t seem to matter that many UK cities are already at bursting and breaking point.
It doesn’t seem to matter that thousands more immigrants will only swamp an already sinking NHS.
It doesn’t seem to matter that it will excaserbate the extreme shortage of housing.
No, it “doesn’t matter” because the brain-dead, left wing numpties who are opening the flood gates don’t grasp that it will affect them.
It’s a simple question but just where exactly are these thousands of people going to live?.
One other point.
Why should any country accept people who resort to suffragette behaviour(lying down on a railway line while holding your baby??), thuggery(see the news clips of them pulling down the holding fencing) and violence towards the police who have been sent to try and contain them?.
I would also like to ask these people just what are they expecting and planning to do when they arrive on European shores wearing nothing but jeans, a t-shirt and sun glasses??.
” wearing nothing but jeans, a t-shirt and sun glasses??. Designer Ray Bans.
Its clear what they expect, whether its reality or fantasy. They expect free cash, food and accomodation and chances are that’s what they will get! So is it any surprise that they come and will continue to come.
On Today they were bleating on about how Sweden has taken more “refugees” per head of the population than any European country (implication – UK should do the same). Out of the two people interviewed one was from Palastine (couldnt they find 2 from Syria) said he was expecting to get a small house, he’ll probably though need a large one once all his family has joined him.
The obsession with numbers alone is so symptomatic of the boxtickocracy mindset.
It’s their qualification and suitability that matters.
Genuine refugees, like kids from Syria, versus solo military age males in jeans and Ray Bans already making demands and threatening to kick off even more if they are not met.
Let these in at your peril.
The picture of the “drowned child” was created in the 1st week in April. I learned tonight that the child and the other family members that drowned with that child are now being taken back to Syria for burial. Eh?? O.K., so where have the bodies been since April? I get the feeling we are being taken for a ride by someone at the Human Rights Watch, and Cameron has fallen for it hook line and sinker. Well done the BBC, you got the result you wanted, but who are you going to support when the war starts? Idiots, the ISIS useful idiots.
Do you have links? I suggested propaganda yesterday as certain ‘groups’ are not adverse to using children to further their aims, we don’t know for sure just how that child died.
For the links, scroll back a few posts I have put all you need to know in a post concerning the picture.
Got that but how are you dating it?
The google image details say that the image was published 2 September. I cannot see any further details on the image as regards the original details which would have included date and time and the type of camera used.
If this is true, then how has this happened ?? and it certainly needs investigating. Perhaps someone knows someone in the press, to get this looked at.
Even on Newsshite reference was made to the “middleclassness” of those influxing. In the Soviet Union it was the Komsomol types who looked most Western, could speak English and had the confidence to approach you on the street. In a state like Syria, people enjoying the “refugees'” lifestyle must have been close to Assad in some way. I don’t feel a great deal of moral responsibility towards former Assad supporters.
I was most amused when Dateless asked whether emotion should be the basis for rational policy making.
Sorry, i think my post got lost.
I think you might be mistaken. The photo has the American date format – i.e. 4/9 rather than 9/4. I might be wrong, but it is the simpler explanation.
Conspiracy theories are generally favoured by fools.
Hi Grimer, My post got lost too. The photo has been around for a week in the Media so it was created well before the 4th which was yesterday, so it can’t be the American Format of date stamping.
To see compiled date of photo, go to Google images, right click over the image and then view properties. All info is there.
Just read a piece that states that the boy victims father is a fraud…….it claims that in fact he wasn’t in the boat, he was ashore, that he wanted his wife to go on ahead….his relative in Canada was in on the fraud. They had lived in Bodrun for 3 years, in a free house,with food…..he made up the story of steering the boat and his dying sons in his arms…all bullshit…..no reason to disbelieve this latest….see if i can post the link, meanwhile search yourself, it will not be on the BBC!!!!!
Check out piece in ‘ The Muslim Issue ‘, tap that in……if it’s true…..the fucking BBC is in trouble.
…And the award for least convincing acting performance goes to…..Yasmin Alibhai-Brown on the Jeremy Vine Show
Listen to bBC regular Yasmin turn on the crocodile tears over the body on the beach, notice how quickly she recovers. Our host laps it up, 13.00 minutes in. Also note the overwhelming bias of the callers, thankfully a woman at the end talks sense.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06673nb
Hmmm, the old bandwagon jumper, I a liar “Muslims are the new Jews” Brown eh!
NO they are NOT! … no explanation even necessary, just wrong.
and … the fake blubbering, squeezing out a phone tear
bloody embarrassing
I’ve posted about this a few times on here, so please forgive the repetition, but: the people of Eastern Europe will not put up with this s***; regardless of what the E.U. says or does, nor however it coerces their elites or leaders.
They will get them out of their lands as fast as possible and into the softer, Western countries. They will certainly not accept these fatuous dispersal ideas, originating out of Brussels, Berlin and Paris.
I notice that Al Beebus hasn’t reported the Hungarian PM’s comments, re the effects of these huge numbers of Muslims moving into Christian Europe; unsurprising, I suppose, as with the Beeb’s progressives they’d be about as well received as a hog roast at a Bar Mitzvah.
Meanwhile in other news, a girl in her 20s is raped in Manchester by a paki (I fully reserve the right to abbreviate as long as the bbc and other media outlets can spit the word ‘Jew’ instead of Jewish) and another woman was locked up and abused for six days by Roman Torac from erm..Mosside apparently??
Both innocent victims of the liberal agenda, the one that supports power to women at every opportunity, well, apart from when they are raped by immigrants, that is just another crime statistic.
Seemingly the word Paki is now an approved word at the BBC.
At last a BBC programme taking the pee out of Moslems.
What! I hear you cry.
It is called Sparkhill Sound and was broadcast last night on Radio 4 extra at 23.00 wherein the word Paki was used.
As the script writers and participants all or mainly appear to have a connection with the Indian sub-continent perhaps that is deemed acceptable.
Anyway perhaps worth a listen on “catch up” and wonder if a fatwah may soon be descending on the BBC for allowing ridicule of the ROP.
Well, both the Director of TV, one Danny Cohen, and one Alan Yentob – (two at the BBC who have immense power and influence), are not of the Christian faith, so its hardly surprising that the religious aspect of this story has never been mentioned.
Brissles, perhaps they are unfamiliar with this delightful Islamic saying – ‘First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people.’
As an aside , a lot of lefty/ liberal BBC types are pro abortion. I wonder if they need to square that about the toddler who drowned ?
The Migrant crisis is getting worse, it looks like our serviceman are going to get involved in another mess. ……………………..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34155501
Speaking of optimism, even if (and that’s a big one) they obliterate the threats from fighting loons in that sand-blasted medieval hell hole, do the pols and media seriously think the ‘refugees’ will make the trek back to forge a new Syria?
Only one country in the middle east created an oasis from the desert, and the mindset of those surrounding it is not to copy it but grab it.
Save one missile for W1A!
Five Live this morning and the drive to enrich us further by bringing in thousands of more immigrants continues unabated.
Then there’s a story about how GP surgeries are under huge pressure……………………eh?
Either as thick as fuckin pig shit……………………or part of the whole stinking agenda?